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Sep 19, 10:48 PM
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Carole and Tuesday composed a beautiful song in a peaceful tone that goes perfectly with the current situation that Mars is experiencing, its collaboration with Crystal was spectacular. But Angela's song, despite all preamble, impacted my heart, was a sad and tragic tone. It really seemed that she transmitted her feelings through her song. It's hard for me to accept it, but Angela and her song stole my heart in this episode, I came to feel her anguish inside me. It is a real sadness what just happened to him, after so many sorrows, her body could not take it anymore and collapsed. Poor Angela, I hope she recovers.
This episode left me shocked.

The song can become "a light in the dark."

Ps: The appearance of Steve Aoki drove me crazy, hahaha.
 
Sep 19, 11:37 PM

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So the story clearly paints our protagonists as the underdogs trying to make it big in the harsh world of music.
So how do they achieve it? By meeting some old dude who sets everything up for them, then another one who helps them to make their music into what he thinks to be good. How exactly are they different from everyone else? Where's the struggle? Where is the expression of their artistic freedom?


I repeat Tobe is there to make sure that their songs are polished. He's not writing the songs or playing the instruments for them. That's C&T's job like we have seen through multiple different montages. This is a key part. I would agree with you if Tobe made them use AI like most artist in the show but that's not the case.


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regarding C&T's career decisions, Gus made the following ones: they play in a bar, they go to the music festival, they attend the talent show, they refuse the label deal, they meet the producer, they attend another music festival... You get my idea?


No. I don't. Gus is their music manager. His job is to make sure C&T's names get out there and to make sure that, since they decided that they wanted but money and freedom, they will be able to keep their creative freedom while earning as much as they can.
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I'm just saying that the story is crap.

I Disagree


I don't know how else to explain it to you. If a story of two girls succeeding in music without any major problems sounds compelling to you, that's fine, there's nothing I can do about it. I explained why it isn't compelling to me.
 
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Hoping things will get better for Angela. These past few episodes have just been brutal for her. Angela's song was real good (i think the 2nd half really pictured where she's at right now in the story)

C&T's song was great! Crystal's part was also quite fitting; seemed like the 3 of them have good chemistry. Hoping we can get another song with the 3.

Looking forward to next episode, I wonder where it'll continue from in the story since this ep was such a heavy one.
 
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I definitely get what they were going for with the 'light in the dark' theme. I also quite like how it contrasts Angela's 'Light a Fire' from way back when, at Mars Brightest.

The death scene was a little melodramatic for me. It's actually an interesting contrast. I thought that scene was two melodramatic but Angela's song and collapse I thought were perfect. That whole credits sequence was perfect in fact. Props to Angela's singer for being that in-character and selling the strained sadness of Angela's character.
 
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Steve Aoki cameo in my wholesome anime. I fuggin' approve of this shit. Not gonna lie...the collab between C&T with Crystal was disappointing. Like the song was good and all, but I expected something much more given the hype that the episode was trying to build for it. And as for Angela....holy fuck...that ending man.
Don't believe the hype.
 
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😔😔😔 for Angela, as finally the dream her mother wanted to be with, is also the last day for her mom. Just sad thats why its expected Angela's performance to be like that... and if you just read the lyrics alone, its a SAD ONE...

Regardimg carole and tuesday's performance- LOVE THE SONG!!! Thats all i can say, the lyrics are nice, the rythm are good to the ears.

Hope angela can recover from this one.
 
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first time i skipped one of the carole and tuesday songs. idk why but it just bored me to listen to it. Both of Angela's songs went SUPER DUPER HARD. overall the episode was alright, not much happened on Carole and Tuesday's part but im interested to see what happens for Angela next

 
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I repeat Tobe is there to make sure that their songs are polished. He's not writing the songs or playing the instruments for them. That's C&T's job like we have seen through multiple different montages. This is a key part. I would agree with you if Tobe made them use AI like most artist in the show but that's not the case.




No. I don't. Gus is their music manager. His job is to make sure C&T's names get out there and to make sure that, since they decided that they wanted but money and freedom, they will be able to keep their creative freedom while earning as much as they can.

I Disagree


I don't know how else to explain it to you. If a story of two girls succeeding in music without any major problems sounds compelling to you, that's fine, there's nothing I can do about it. I explained why it isn't compelling to me.


They've had problems all throughout the first half of the show. From failing to keep a job for than two seconds to a failed music video to a failed first music festival to a failed attempt at dealing with an obsessed fan to even almost breaking up so I don't know how you came to the conclusion that they haven't struggled.
Playing a song 52 times to make sure it's right can't be easy bruh. Again we have seen multiple different montages of them struggling to come up with lyrics and melodies. On top of that the world they live in is starting to become more and more chaotic to the point where even they can sense that something is going to happen. And it's in close proximity too with Tuesday's very own mother spouting potentially dangerous rhetoric that could affect Carole in a huge way.

Did some of ya'll want C&T to feel some angst or something? That's definitely not needed IMO because they're main want and need in life was fulfilled when they first met. Ever since it's been hella fun just watching them interact. You're not going to tell me that Tuesday singing happy birthday to Carole, giving her a present, and Carole looking at it with tears of joy was not the sweetest thing that happened in this show. Especially considering that Carole probably has never been given a gift for her birthday ever in her life. This is super dope stuff.

This is just a differing opinion I know but at this point I've held my tongue long enough. This show's second half has been way too dope for me to not say anything anymore.

Even if this 7 minute miracle is wack, I can't bring myself to not at least gives this an 8/10.
 
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MiiyoSon said:
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I don't know how else to explain it to you. If a story of two girls succeeding in music without any major problems sounds compelling to you, that's fine, there's nothing I can do about it. I explained why it isn't compelling to me.


They've had problems all throughout the first half of the show. From failing to keep a job for than two seconds to a failed music video to a failed first music festival to a failed attempt at dealing with an obsessed fan to even almost breaking up so I don't know how you came to the conclusion that they haven't struggled.
Playing a song 52 times to make sure it's right can't be easy bruh. Again we have seen multiple different montages of them struggling to come up with lyrics and melodies. On top of that the world they live in is starting to become more and more chaotic to the point where even they can sense that something is going to happen. And it's in close proximity too with Tuesday's very own mother spouting potentially dangerous rhetoric that could affect Carole in a huge way.

Did some of ya'll want C&T to feel some angst or something? That's definitely not needed IMO because they're main want and need in life was fulfilled when they first met. Ever since it's been hella fun just watching them interact. You're not going to tell me that Tuesday singing happy birthday to Carole, giving her a present, and Carole looking at it with tears of joy was not the sweetest thing that happened in this show. Especially considering that Carole probably has never been given a gift for her birthday ever in her life. This is super dope stuff.

This is just a differing opinion I know but at this point I've held my tongue long enough. This show's second half has been way too dope for me to not say anything anymore.

Even if this 7 minute miracle is wack, I can't bring myself to not at least gives this an 8/10.


They had it pretty easy when it comes to their careers, and that's what I was thinking we'd get more of. There's nothing wrong with the main leads and their interactions between one another, but I didn't find their journey to be anything interesting, to be honest.
The only reason I kept watching this after about episode 13, is to see wether the writer can actually tie all of the subplots together and for Angela's story. Hers I have no problems with whatsoever.
I'm not trying to hate on this show, I wanted it to be good. And it was good, for about half a season.
 
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TheDopplerEffect said:
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They've had problems all throughout the first half of the show. From failing to keep a job for than two seconds to a failed music video to a failed first music festival to a failed attempt at dealing with an obsessed fan to even almost breaking up so I don't know how you came to the conclusion that they haven't struggled.
Playing a song 52 times to make sure it's right can't be easy bruh. Again we have seen multiple different montages of them struggling to come up with lyrics and melodies. On top of that the world they live in is starting to become more and more chaotic to the point where even they can sense that something is going to happen. And it's in close proximity too with Tuesday's very own mother spouting potentially dangerous rhetoric that could affect Carole in a huge way.

Did some of ya'll want C&T to feel some angst or something? That's definitely not needed IMO because they're main want and need in life was fulfilled when they first met. Ever since it's been hella fun just watching them interact. You're not going to tell me that Tuesday singing happy birthday to Carole, giving her a present, and Carole looking at it with tears of joy was not the sweetest thing that happened in this show. Especially considering that Carole probably has never been given a gift for her birthday ever in her life. This is super dope stuff.

This is just a differing opinion I know but at this point I've held my tongue long enough. This show's second half has been way too dope for me to not say anything anymore.

Even if this 7 minute miracle is wack, I can't bring myself to not at least gives this an 8/10.


They had it pretty easy when it comes to their careers, and that's what I was thinking we'd get more of. There's nothing wrong with the main leads and their interactions between one another, but I didn't find their journey to be anything interesting, to be honest.
The only reason I kept watching this after about episode 13, is to see wether the writer can actually tie all of the subplots together and for Angela's story. Hers I have no problems with whatsoever.
I'm not trying to hate on this show, I wanted it to be good. And it was good, for about half a season.


No they haven't as I just explained.
It's still good now though. Fantastic even.
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The misery train continues to charge ahead at full speed for poor Angela. Already a broken mess and in need of help, she had to witness her mother dying in front of her, and on the night of the awards itself. =(

Although she did make her appearance at the last minute to sing her song after she won the best new artist award, she looked completely broken, both in terms of physical appearance and her song lacked any kind of strength. Sadly, she ended up collapsing on the stage and was taken to hospital, while we hear a slightly haunting new song from her for this episode's ED. I really hope she gets on the road to recovery.

Carole & Tuesday didn't win the new artist award, to be expected, but their new song, After The Fire ft. Crystal was pretty good. Slight repetitive lyrics aside, it had a great harmony between the three singers and the beat of the song itself was satisfying, too.

Meanwhile, Jerry and been notified about what Spencer is up to with the blonde journalist. Those two guys better watch their backs now, as trouble is on its way to screw them over.

The only downside to the episode was the rather expected political jokes from the award presenter which was to be expected again. Funny, maybe, but it shows that slight arrogance that many musicians, as well as the presenters themselves, have with their political views in general. =/

Other than that, this was a great episode overall. Two episodes left now, so either of them will contain the "Magnificent 7 minutes" that starts the first 20 seconds of almost every episode to date. It'd better be good...
 
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MiiyoSon said:
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They had it pretty easy when it comes to their careers, and that's what I was thinking we'd get more of. There's nothing wrong with the main leads and their interactions between one another, but I didn't find their journey to be anything interesting, to be honest.
The only reason I kept watching this after about episode 13, is to see wether the writer can actually tie all of the subplots together and for Angela's story. Hers I have no problems with whatsoever.
I'm not trying to hate on this show, I wanted it to be good. And it was good, for about half a season.


No they haven't as I just explained.
It's still good now though. Fantastic even.

Are you not listening? They met a guy who set everything up for them. This is what I'm talking about when I say they have it easy. They did what he told them to do and got progressively more popular in a short span of a year. This is not the kind of story I find enjoyable, personally. I'm glad you like it.
 
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TheDopplerEffect said:
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They've had problems all throughout the first half of the show. From failing to keep a job for than two seconds to a failed music video to a failed first music festival to a failed attempt at dealing with an obsessed fan to even almost breaking up so I don't know how you came to the conclusion that they haven't struggled.
Playing a song 52 times to make sure it's right can't be easy bruh. Again we have seen multiple different montages of them struggling to come up with lyrics and melodies. On top of that the world they live in is starting to become more and more chaotic to the point where even they can sense that something is going to happen. And it's in close proximity too with Tuesday's very own mother spouting potentially dangerous rhetoric that could affect Carole in a huge way.

Did some of ya'll want C&T to feel some angst or something? That's definitely not needed IMO because they're main want and need in life was fulfilled when they first met. Ever since it's been hella fun just watching them interact. You're not going to tell me that Tuesday singing happy birthday to Carole, giving her a present, and Carole looking at it with tears of joy was not the sweetest thing that happened in this show. Especially considering that Carole probably has never been given a gift for her birthday ever in her life. This is super dope stuff.

This is just a differing opinion I know but at this point I've held my tongue long enough. This show's second half has been way too dope for me to not say anything anymore.

Even if this 7 minute miracle is wack, I can't bring myself to not at least gives this an 8/10.


They had it pretty easy when it comes to their careers, and that's what I was thinking we'd get more of. There's nothing wrong with the main leads and their interactions between one another, but I didn't find their journey to be anything interesting, to be honest.
The only reason I kept watching this after about episode 13, is to see wether the writer can actually tie all of the subplots together and for Angela's story. Hers I have no problems with whatsoever.
I'm not trying to hate on this show, I wanted it to be good. And it was good, for about half a season.



C&T didn’t have careers as easy as Angela did.

Tuesday is timid a got drunk on their 1st stage performance and the crowd hated them. Carole can't keep a job. C&T were both out of sync during the 2nd round of American idol arc because Tuesday isn't good at speaking up to people. Carole can't interact with her dad. They didn't sign the American idol contract so C&T had to work as indie artists. ertegun called their music generic without listening to it first. they write their songs themselves too. Tobe calls their music shit most of the time. they were nobodies before

Angela had it very easy in the beginning. Angela was popular before she became a singer and was super confident. She was a star already before and Tao was helping her out. She didn't have to audition for American idol because she is already a celebrity. She won American idol and signed the contract. her song “breath again” was #1 on the billboard charts while C&T “army of 2” was #48. when ertegun(a big name artist) was a judge he said Angela would be the only artist he would want to collaborate with (which he did even when he was at C&T's house and used Carole’s keyboard ).
Edit: she won the Grammys too even if she couldn’t enjoy the win.

This and the part with the black_knight stalker was probably the 1st time Angela actually struggled.
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Are you not listening? They met a guy who set everything up for them. This is what I'm talking about when I say they have it easy. They did what he told them to do and got progressively more popular in a short span of a year.


Which is a manager's job. To get their names out there. At any point, C&T could of said "no get us a different gig" but Gus with the help of Roddy has been a dope manager for them most part. So why wouldn't they trust him?
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They had it pretty easy when it comes to their careers, and that's what I was thinking we'd get more of. There's nothing wrong with the main leads and their interactions between one another, but I didn't find their journey to be anything interesting, to be honest.
The only reason I kept watching this after about episode 13, is to see wether the writer can actually tie all of the subplots together and for Angela's story. Hers I have no problems with whatsoever.
I'm not trying to hate on this show, I wanted it to be good. And it was good, for about half a season.



C&T didn’t have careers as easy as Angela did.

Tuesday is timid a got drunk on their 1st stage performance and the crowd hated them. Carole can't keep a job. C&T were both out of sync during the 2nd round of American idol arc because Tuesday isn't good at speaking up to people. Carole can't interact with her dad. They didn't sign the American idol contract so C&T had to work as indie artists. ertegun called their music generic without listening to it first. they write their songs themselves too. Tobe calls their music shit most of the time. they were nobodies before

Angela had it very easy in the beginning. Angela was popular before she became a singer and was super confident. She was a star already before and Tao was helping her out. She didn't have to audition for American idol because she is already a celebrity. She won American idol and signed the contract. her song “breath again” was #1 on the billboard charts while C&T “army of 2” was #48. when ertegun(a big name artist) was a judge he said Angela would be the only artist he would want to collaborate with (which he did even when he was at C&T's house and used Carole’s keyboard ).
Edit: she won the Grammys too even if she couldn’t enjoy the win.

This and the part with the black_knight stalker was probably the 1st time Angela actually struggled.


I'm not saying that Angela had it hard from the beginning, although it depends on your interpretation of the text of this story. Angela's story is better because it's just a better written ark. C&T's story ended up not being quite what was advertised, imo. Similarly, Angela's story far surpassed my expectations. It even ended up being Perfect Blue-esqe, which is a good thing in my book.
One again, Angela's ark is not a strictly better version of C&T's ark, but it is a better story overall
 
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By the way folks, this wasn't Keanu Reeves.

It's Steve Aoki, one of the music producers for the show


 
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Are you not listening? They met a guy who set everything up for them. This is what I'm talking about when I say they have it easy. They did what he told them to do and got progressively more popular in a short span of a year.


Which is a manager's job. To get their names out there. At any point, C&T could of said "no get us a different gig" but Gus with the help of Roddy has been a dope manager for them most part. So why wouldn't they trust him?


Jesus, you're just walking me in circles right now.
Alright, metaphor time.
Suppose I decided to make a show about a guy with a lot of problems. The show is about him trying to solve those problems. Then, 3 episodes in, he meets a fairy with magic wand, who says that her duty is to to solve those problems with this here wand.Then she goes ahead and solves all of them. The rest of the season is just the protagonist sitting on the beach and drinking pina coladas. Sounds like a good story to you?
And if you try to complain about the fairy, I'm just gonna say "It makes sense, I mean that's what her role in the story is, she said as much herself"
This is of course an exaggeration, but I hope you can see my point now
 
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Which is a manager's job. To get their names out there. At any point, C&T could of said "no get us a different gig" but Gus with the help of Roddy has been a dope manager for them most part. So why wouldn't they trust him?


Jesus, you're just walking me in circles right now.
Alright, metaphor time.
Suppose I decided to make a show about a guy with a lot of problems. The show is about him trying to solve those problems. Then, 3 episodes in, he meets a fairy with magic wand, who says that her duty is to to solve those problems with this here wand.Then she goes ahead and solves all of them. The rest of the season is just the protagonist sitting on the beach and drinking pina coladas. Sounds like a good story to you?
And if you try to complain about the fairy, I'm just gonna say "It makes sense, I mean that's what her role in the story is, she said as much herself"
This is of course an exaggeration, but I hope you can see my point now


No I don't. Where does C&T fit in that analogy man? They still had to make good music and prove themselves.
 
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Jesus, you're just walking me in circles right now.
Alright, metaphor time.
Suppose I decided to make a show about a guy with a lot of problems. The show is about him trying to solve those problems. Then, 3 episodes in, he meets a fairy with magic wand, who says that her duty is to to solve those problems with this here wand.Then she goes ahead and solves all of them. The rest of the season is just the protagonist sitting on the beach and drinking pina coladas. Sounds like a good story to you?
And if you try to complain about the fairy, I'm just gonna say "It makes sense, I mean that's what her role in the story is, she said as much herself"
This is of course an exaggeration, but I hope you can see my point now


No I don't. Where does C&T fit in that analogy man? They still had to make good music and prove themselves.


I can't with you anymore. The fairy is Gus. He decides what the girls do to prove themselves, and hires a producer to ensure their music is good. If you don't find it boring, good. You do you. For me this is not fun to watch. Which is what I was saying all this time
 
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I can't with you anymore. The fairy is Gus. He decides what the girls do to prove themselves, and hires a producer to ensure their music is good. If you don't find it boring, good. You do you. For me this is not fun to watch. Which is what I was saying all this time


Fine,we can agree to disagree . But I'm going to say this one more time.

Gus job as a music manager is to get C&T's name out there. He's supposed to get them these gigs and handle the business side of the music industry. He's supposed to use his connections in order to get high caliber collabs like Crystal this episode.

BUT It's up to C&T to consistently make good music to keep their careers going. Without that, there is no music career to talk about. And that can't be easy as we've seen with multiple different montages throughout the show.
 
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The last two tracks they played were the heaviest (in terms of emotional impact) that have played in the show to date.
 
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huh I felt like this episode was lacking. C&T song was super blant but I guess that was on purpose to make Angela's performance stand out more, it makes sense I guess. But just in general things felt slightly off. Angela's performance could have been handled much better.
 
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on a lighter note, that Steve Aoki cameo lol
 
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The end with Angela....was not expecting that O_O

When Ertegun was talking about true friends, I thought he was talking about Tao but in terms of him and Angela. I guess we learned that he didn't care about Angela texting him for help.

And this doesn't feel anywhere close to the end of a story, don't know how they wrap this up in 2 episodes if there isn't going to be a 2nd season

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Crystal is literally wearing the identical dress that Taylor Swift wore one year to the Grammy's. Looks a bit more sparkly in the anime but it's legit identical. Same shoes too, tho they're slightly cut off in the Crystal pic.



Ugh i hope that Crystal isn't supposed to be a representation of Taylor. Already starting to dislike Crystal due to the thought of that now
 
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If you call yourself a lover of music and you're not watching this show then you are seriously missing out.
 
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Very dramatic episode with the "mother" and then Angela herself at the end.

No surprise Angela won, it was always going to be a popularity contest even before Mars Brightest.

Any other year it would have been Carole & Tuesday.
 
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For what they've shown last week, i thought that the song at the Mars Grammy would be the 7 minute miracle bla bla that they whispered on since the beginning, guess i was wrong.
Episode ending made me anxious... i honestly hope that the 7 minute song is a three way song with Angela. Let's wait and see
 
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I pity Angela it's so sad the song is so dark
I guest Carole and Tuesday did not get the spotlight because what happened to Angela
 
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I don't care about C&T's storyline anymore. They're already famous, they're performing with an artist they look up to but Angela is falling apart. Angela is very famous too and is an established star but there's so much that we don't know about her.

I want to know more about Tao too and if he's going to even help her at all.
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The end with Angela....was not expecting that O_O

When Ertegun was talking about true friends, I thought he was talking about Tao but in terms of him and Angela. I guess we learned that he didn't care about Angela texting him for help.

And this doesn't feel anywhere close to the end of a story, don't know how they wrap this up in 2 episodes if there isn't going to be a 2nd season

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Crystal is literally wearing the identical dress that Taylor Swift wore one year to the Grammy's. Looks a bit more sparkly in the anime but it's legit identical. Same shoes too, tho they're slightly cut off in the Crystal pic.



Ugh i hope that Crystal isn't supposed to be a representation of Taylor. Already starting to dislike Crystal due to the thought of that now

I think she's meant to just kinda represent a bunch of different big name artists honestly. I get like a Beyonce/Ariana/Taylor vibe from her.
 
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I did not realize that cameo entrance.

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Damn, this was one fabulous episode!

Carole & Tuesday have finally gotten the chance to collab with Crystal but of course it wasn't going to be easy, amazing depiction of that through trial and error. Tuesday's birthday song to Carole was really nice too, quite the thoughtful gift as well I've to say.

Awesome performance in the end though, it's incredible how their nervousness suddenly disappeared like that! No wonder why they're rocking the music industry.

Steve Aoki's little cameo though, lol. Meanwhile, it seems as though Tao is seriously up to no good and the Politics affair seems to be elevating by the episode.

Condolences to Angela though, life really is turning on her big time here! Yikes, didn't expect her Mama to pass away like that though. And who is that Prof that she murmured during her final moments, her parent? Anyway, that performance was depressing as heck and the ED perfectly resounded that, hoping to see her grab hold of herself and rise back again.

Kind of worried when the 7-minute performance from the two coming as well, with just two episodes it's hard to see a solid and satisfying conclusion in store for us.

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huh I felt like this episode was lacking. C&T song was super blant but I guess that was on purpose to make Angela's performance stand out more, it makes sense I guess. But just in general things felt slightly off. Angela's performance could have been handled much better.


Angela's performance was meant to be a little down than her standards to get her recent hardships and mishaps across, I reckon.
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2 episode left. I know watanabe succes made a good ending for samurai champloo.create good ending even in 3 last episode. But i still worried how this series ending. I just hope it dont make me dissapointed because i want this show became something in our comunnity.
 
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OHEHMGEE! Angela fainted! to bad her "mama" passed away.
performance by C&T plus Crystal on the Grammy was pretty excellent!
Why Tao wasn't there for Angela?
i hope when Angela's fine and awakes, C&T would both be here for her...since they are thei RIVAL!
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Damn, what an episode. Angela is strong, going to the awards even though so much has happened to her in such a short amount of time. Both her and C&T's song was nice, I enjoyed both of them. The ending was different, I liked it.
 
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_MushiRock11_ said:
shayed__ said:
huh I felt like this episode was lacking. C&T song was super blant but I guess that was on purpose to make Angela's performance stand out more, it makes sense I guess. But just in general things felt slightly off. Angela's performance could have been handled much better.


Angela's performance was meant to be a little down than her standards to get her recent hardships and mishaps across, I reckon.


What I meant was directorial wise. Not the performance the acting or the song but just the way they executed the scene
 
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shayed__ said:
What I meant was directorial wise. Not the performance the acting or the song but just the way they executed the scene


Right, I sort of agree with that.
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C&T's song this eps has too much repetition, the climax isn't exciting enough. It didn't give me goosebumps like their first few songs

Ezekiel deserves to win.

And I hope Angela's okay. It's really starting to feel as if she's the main character lol

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And by the way, Ertegun talking about true friends and naming Tao instead of my boy Roddy is pure bulllshit.


Roddy is the best bro. Ertegun has forgotten how much Roddy has helped him.
Or he could just be doing it for show because he's in public and he needs to say something about Tao
 
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And by the way, Ertegun talking about true friends and naming Tao instead of my boy Roddy is pure bulllshit.


Roddy is the best bro. Ertegun has forgotten how much Roddy has helped him.
Or he could just be doing it for show because he's in public and he needs to say something about Tao

Still, after naming Tao, he could have dedicated a few words to him at least :P
 
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This episode was perhaps too much for me right now. Maybe I should wait a month or so until I watch the next one for now. I really hope Angela can recover. Please.

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Man those lyrics were so on point to Angela's current position. It really was uncomfortable to listen to. Maybe I'm just tricking myself, but I feel like I could really hear the pain in her voice. A pretty eerie end credit sequence as well.

This was a good ep, but I'm wondering how tf they will wrap all this up in two eps. We gotta fix Angela, release C&Ts album, and then the mountain of politics. I guess the stuff Tao/reporter guy dig up should be enough to kill Tuesdays Moms campaign, but are we gonna get any resolution between the two?
 
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Angela only character to be actually interesting.
I would've preferred the show to be entirely about her and scrap Carole & Tuesday entirely.
Great ending scene. Very emotional and totally working, at least to what I think.
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woah i thought we were finally to the miraculous seven minutes but it took a twist real fast. the way the last five minutes of this episode was executed was amazing in a directorial stance, i love how this show is showing a darker side of music.
i like carole & tuesday, but now i'm more interested in angela's storyline
 
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Carole and Tuesday started to write a song for their presentation with Crystal, and after some days, she accepted their song. Tao is hacking a government office. Jerry’s AI detected that Kyle is investigating his business and that Spencer works with him. Dahlia finally passed away, Angela got really affected and Mars Grammy’s administration was nervous due to the doubt about Angela’s assistance. Carole & Tuesday performed on stage with Crystal, Ertegun presented the new artist grammy, Angela won it and performed her song, suddenly she fainted (she got hospitalized).

Now their song felt kind of good, not great, but good. Angela’s song felt empty, like a bunch of dark feelings mixed.
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Thiss is what I was talking about on the last episode thread: music being used to convey character emotion and development. I've been largely apathetic to Angela's arc over the show, but she shone here, and the episode setting on her was the right decision. The close out of the lone microphone reminds me of Selena.

If this isn't getting a sequel either in the form of a movie or second season, I suspect a vaguely open ending in the style of Cowboy Bebop. Not everything has to be resolved; some questions are best left to the audiences' imaginations and interpretations.

The next two episodes are going to be either really good or really bad.



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I kinda wish Angela was the main character. Her personality and and arc is far more interesting to me than Car and Tues.
 
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I like Ertegun presentation in this ep " Music coexisted with humanity since ancient times. People's souls have always craved great music. It's always been invaluable to us. It's not something that should be bound by some silly laws and virtues that someone made up"
That just added more weight to that angela's song and will also to the things that will happen in next episodes I guess.
I thought that Ertegun was gonna say something like " I think, therefore I'm Ertegun." :P

Today listening to their songs evoke some of my memories as well...

There's nothing wrong with Ertegun's thanking to Tao and calling him a good friend cuz Tao actually helped him. But yeah, he should have mentioned Roddy name as well. ;-;
Tao's focusing on something else and he might have a good enough reason for not replying Angela messages. But Angela, she's not been doing well since the beginning, problem after problem. And now, even her mama's dead. She collapsed and there is no one besides her. Everything went so dark for her and she's in a complete despair. And her song portrayed about it very well.
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woah i thought we were finally to the miraculous seven minutes but it took a twist real fast. the way the last five minutes of this episode was executed was amazing in a directorial stance, i love how this show is showing a darker side of music.
i like carole & tuesday, but now i'm more interested in angela's storyline

I agree, it's good to see the portrayal of both sides. And angela is a more interesting character than C&T. I Hope we get some great song from the remaining eps. :)
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Beautiful song. I really liked their performance.

I'm feeling terrible sorry for Angela. :/
 
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All the shit Angela went through took a toll on her body and mind, only the will to perform and maybe "something" else gave her the strength to hold out a bit longer. Despite all that I can't really say that I feel bad for her.

It still has gotten a bit more interesting and the songs were nice.
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