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Sep 12, 2:41 PM
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This episode seems to be a coin flip for people: they either love it or hate it. But tbh I kind of see why.

On one hand, the episode finally gave us the confirmation about Aries and Seira. However, they had built up to it so much with obvious signs (ex: Aries being flipped in the OP) that it lost its full impact. It could've been better if they didn't do the name flip thing until the last episode as a small easter egg. Charce's backstory was pretty solid in my opinion but it did feel like a lore dump. They left out a few details too I think, such as the fact that Aries was born around the same time as Charce hence their similar ages. (Or maybe I just missed a subtitle lol I just found out through this thread.)

Kanata losing his hand did feel a little dumb but I do agree with others that it was probably a spur of the moment thing. We know he's the type to face things head-on and it's a natural reaction to want to defend yourself from something. It also gave us a sign that Charce does care about Kanata since he didn't go for a double suicide, something he could've done if he was cold-hearted enough. However, it's now clear that he cares for others in the group besides Aries despite his initial mission.

From a biased fan standpoint who never read the manga, I gave it a 5/5. We got the canon confirmations, we finally know the truth about Charce, and got to appreciate the level of detail that was put into this series. Charce being the one to grab Kanata, Aries, and Ulgar in the first episode was something I wasn't expecting a callback to and I genuinely didn't expect Aries' mother to be from Vixia. Seeing the art of Younger Charce, Ulgar, and Kanata made me tear up a little too.

From an unbiased standpoint, I would've given this episode a 3 or 4. There were a few things that lost its impact due to previous episodes (and the OP) that could've been better delivered. It was also, as I mentioned earlier, a bit of a lore dump but I get that it's hard not to rush some things in a twelve-episode series. The plot twists were well done but they could've paid more attention to the timing of some details too.

Ah, this turned into a mini-rant that people will probably skip over, sorry! I did enjoy the episode though, and can't wait for an hour-long finale next week!
 
Sep 12, 3:30 PM
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Did anyone notice bossun and himeko back there?



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Sep 12, 5:37 PM

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_MushiRock11_ said:
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I'm not sure rebel is the right word here. The king's power is largely limited to the royal district and there doesn't seem to be anything to stop people if they want to leave. However you should ask yourself who benefits if the king doesn't have any heirs.


Oh, that’s interesting! Making a wild guess here - some bigshot Royal Family supposedly next in line (built up through fake ‘loyalty’ over years or so is my pick) is up to no good behind the scenes.


Succession battles have happened in real life. It might still happen. Normally if the king dies without any heirs his brother or cousin might take the throne. Maybe someone from a branch family.

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Honestly, it's hard to empathise with Charce but it's good to know that despite his strong cover, he really does want to live and care about the others like everyone else. Jeez that King though, making his own daughter have to go through immortality (?) with him just so he doesn't have to face reality.


An immortal outliving their offspring is a common issue in stories where they aren't also immortal. I've seen a number where they morn their loved ones long after they're dead. I could see someone wanted immortally for their child if it was in their reach. Still it seems he isn't over his wife's death. I don't know how long ago she died.
 
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HiddenPsycho said:
This episode seems to be a coin flip for people: they either love it or hate it. But tbh I kind of see why.

On one hand, the episode finally gave us the confirmation about Aries and Seira. However, they had built up to it so much with obvious signs (ex: Aries being flipped in the OP) that it lost its full impact. It could've been better if they didn't do the name flip thing until the last episode as a small easter egg. Charce's backstory was pretty solid in my opinion but it did feel like a lore dump. They left out a few details too I think, such as the fact that Aries was born around the same time as Charce hence their similar ages. (Or maybe I just missed a subtitle lol I just found out through this thread.)


You seemed to have just missed that. They even showed baby Charce and Aries right next to each other. It's my head cannon that all of the kids are the same age, with the exception of Funi. They were created for the same plan and most likely created in the same month or two. Basically however loon it took to confirm the women were pregnant is the margin for error.

I can't remember if they touched on this, but the king wanted to clone Seira twice, then another time after being told the first one died. Aries was made for spare organs since they were doing them all at once, but he was planing on making another one a number of years down the line for the memory transfer because of Seira's age. I'm not sure how old Seira was at the time, but I assume late teens early 20's. Still she talked him out of making anymore.
 
Sep 12, 6:39 PM

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Ok this was a great episode, the mistery is finally solved and the last minutes were perfect, it showed a good reason to change the start of the anime when they made the human shit to save Aries, and they gave more character to Kanata, this is looking better than what I thought.
 
Sep 12, 7:50 PM
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one of my favorite episode in this series... i mean the ANOTHER REVELATION has been known to all---- charce is the clone of king and aries is the clone of princess seira.

and ohhh i am so excited about what they will do when they will be going on planet astra...

based on some sources, it will have the same length as of its 1st episode (which is 45 mins...)..

i am so excited about this one.. yeah
 
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Ewww, melodrama.

Also something fishy about Seira's assassination and no explanation why Aries has amnesia. Maybe there is more to it.
 
Sep 13, 3:42 AM

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Kanata, you don't have to place yourself into mortal danger to save Charce. He has always been way too reckless.

I wish Charce had betrayed them out of personal, more intrinsic ideology than being brainwashed into it. Also, we know too little about the palace intrigue, and it has not been addressed all that much prior to this, so it doesn't feel like an organic part of the story. The fact that Charce's motivation is largely based on it makes his betrayal less impactful.

The episode is still better than most of the planet exploration content. I give it that much.
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Sep 13, 5:52 AM

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The bad exposition just never stops.That entire flashback with Charce was pointless.Worst of all,that flashback didn't only ruin Charce but also dragged Aries down with him.

 
Sep 13, 6:24 AM
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They adapted the final twist beautifully, and it had all of the emotion of the manga.
 
Sep 13, 11:45 AM

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I'm hapy because I was afraid that it would go bad at the end. Kanata is a good MC. It's awful that he lost his arm but at least now they're more united than ever. :'(
 
Sep 13, 1:50 PM

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Didn't like Kanata losing an arm. Felt so unnecessary and for easy shock value.
 
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Ewww, melodrama.

Also something fishy about Seira's assassination and no explanation why Aries has amnesia. Maybe there is more to it.


Who said anything about amnesia?
 
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Ep 5 ending spoiler:
Trolls are miserable and that's why they troll. They wish to make other people miserable so that they can feel better about themselves. They are also reaching out for the attention that they don't get in the physical world.
 
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Poor Charce, trapped in a tough choices.
And Kanata was as badass as usual. Unfortunately, he lost his right hand.
I'm so happy to see Bossun & Himeko cameo :'))
 
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Master_Geass said:


Who said anything about amnesia?

She said something like this in the first episode...or maybe I misunderstood...but I thought to myself "Well something doesn't add up." .
 
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ArudaL said:
Did anyone notice bossun and himeko back there?





Who?

I mean, never expect that other people have the same knowledge as you.
 
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alshu said:
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Who said anything about amnesia?

She said something like this in the first episode...or maybe I misunderstood...but I thought to myself "Well something doesn't add up." .


I don't recall anything like that. She said she never forgets a face. There were some fan theories that she had amnesia, maybe you were thinking of that. But that was just that, a theory.
 
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Nieznajomy43 said:

I mean, never expect that other people have the same knowledge as you.

Why not?
There is a high possibility to encounter a SKET Dance fan on this forum.

I missed the easter egg tho.


Master_Geass said:
She said she never forgets a face.

Naaah, something different.
 
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alshu said:
Nieznajomy43 said:

I mean, never expect that other people have the same knowledge as you.

Why not?
There is a high possibility to encounter a SKET Dance fan on this forum.

I missed the easter egg tho.


I should elaborate more in my previous post. I wanted to say that people should add title when they are making references to particular series, because possibility is never 100%.
 
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Alright episode. I would have liked it more if Charce died like he wanted. I figured him for the saboteur from the start, since Ulgar was too obvious, and Yunhua was more of a red herring. Thus i could never bring myself to like him.
 
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Nieznajomy43 said:
I wanted to say that people should add title when they are making references to particular series, because possibility is never 100%.

I thought that this reference was vague on purpose too.
 
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It wouldn't be Kanata no Astra if Kanata wouldn't end up screeching like a wannabe Asta and doing something stupidly reckless without turning his brain on for just a second. At least we finally have some consequences for his stupid acts, so that's as far as the good parts of this episode goes

I agree with @SouthRzVa Seira's assassination comes out of the left field, there's no motive nor foundation for her to be killed prematurely other than be used as a plot device. It's ridiculous how faceless and nameless characters can come up with a successful plan to kill a royalty character, but a group of big shots with all the resources come up with the most dumbassed plan to kill a bunch of students stranding them in space.

Continuing with the dumbass plan, how the hell did all those adults come up with the brilliant idea of using a mentally unstable teenager to come up with kill/suicide plan? it never crossed their mind that he could just have second thoughts about it? how about if Charce had a change of heart back from the very beginning in planet McPa once he had a taste of true outdoor freedom? Charce feels like the weakest character in the group being so conflicyed on himself and his motivations. If he had the power to jettison into space anyone from the rest of the group when he was alone with any of them, why didn't he do it in previous planets? it would had been so easy to make them dissapear one by one with wormhole chan and just build up a lie that he hasn't seen his companions or just claim that they dissapeared and just use wormhole chan until he's the very last one and off himself with his gadget too. Also him having a second remote control on his other sleeve was so studpily cheesy, what if Kanata or anyone else also grabbed it and smashed it, would he had a 3rd and 4th backup in a secret pocket down his ankles? would he pull out a 5ht one out of his ass? cuz that's where most of the ideas for this show come from.

Just one more episode to go, I'm just waiting for another asspull explanation and boring long exposition on how Aries knows about world history before the big moving to Astra planet (wich many already pointed out the analogy of getting rid of a house because of a mouse problem in the previous episode discussion) along with more teen tears and melodrama
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ok this series has been so good..I hope it gets the praise it deserves... felt bad for kanata
 
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Kanata lost an arm...that gonna hurt!
everyone going emo drama huh...
4/5.
 
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As I said before Charce's backstory is, unusually for this show, quite solid and is directed reasonably well...but it doesn't tie in well with the rest of the show. It feels like sob story for the sake of sob story, a supposed to be traitor randomly telling long sad rant kind of thing.
 
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that was honestly a bad pun
 
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i really like this episode a lot. the fact charce as a character developed like that, really like that alot especially the ending. btw, i notice something

https://imgur.com/Txu85pD
that two character is from sket dance isnt it ?
its just so similar i cannot let that went by my eyes hahaha
 
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