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Sep 10, 9:38 AM

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The Hashiras seem like lazy writing but knowing the structure has made the world a lot more interesting, bet the Master is a former Demon.

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Sep 10, 10:05 AM

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aww poor Inosuke. he's usually so confident and upbeat.
 
Sep 10, 2:24 PM

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Just binged watched up to this episode in 1 day. This series is phenomenal.
 
Sep 10, 4:51 PM

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Zenitsu + Inosuke + Sanemi + Iguro = Team Annoying ! :/
Nezuko rejecting Sanemi makes me laughed so hard! serves you right! But they should let Tanjirou headbutt him!! grrrrr

That Sanemi guy, he didn't wait for the judgment of their leader and just stabbed Nezuko! that's why he's hatable, why put the justice in your hands?!

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Sep 10, 6:06 PM

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Late talk as I only got caught up now, but this might be in my top 3 favorite episodes of the series, it felt like a genuinely well directed episode, it did the job correctly without feeling forced or annoying, and the scene with Nezuko with the music and the storyboard overall almost made me shed a tear, not any anime can do that let alone a shounen, so this episode does deserve the praise...

Also, I like the master's character, he seems very mysterious, yet gentle and wise, I would like to see more of him, like his traits, motives, ideals...etc
 
Sep 10, 11:22 PM

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God I hate the Hashiras. (With the exception of Tomioka and Kocho)

They're a bunch of cartoonishly stupid, idiots with obnoxious "lol so quirky" character designs. I somehow take Zenitsu more seriously than them.
 
Sep 11, 9:39 AM

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So Tanjiro should not blindly obey the master but the pillars should?
Ok lol


I'm gonna type a lot but this isn't that complicated.

In Tanjiro's case it has a bit less to do with the Master than with the Hashiras. So who he shouldn't blindly follow is the Hashiras. And really it's less to do with should than with human nature. So like let's rewind shit and go step by step.

Tanjiro wakes up to find himself in a new location where he is tied up. He's told that he's being put on trial and will be given a chance to explain why he's palling around with a demon. After a little back and forth he sees that one Hashira(water) is on his side. One(insect) is at least trying to give him the space and time to explain himself. A handful(fire, snake, buddhist looking dude, and flamboyant guy) are talking bout killing him. The rest are just silent. And oh...here comes some scarred up asshole(wind) from left field who not only is talking about killing him but is stabbing his sister.

Also talk of some "Master" who is late to the meeting.

Now Tanjiro is a pretty chill and forgiving guy. About the only one he has a problem with is the Wind Hashira for obvious reasons. All and all he behaved a lot better than the average human. His was sitting pretty quietly until the Wind Hashira got all stabby. Probably would have kept trying to explain his and his sister's situation until the stabbing started. Overall he was pretty obedient except for going after the Wind Hashira. And that is super understandable. He doesn't really know these people and this organization is super scattered so it's no surprise that he doesn't know these people. He has very little reason to obey people who put his sister at risk like that. And I do say they owe him the satisfaction of a headbutt or two..three...whatever. Cuz these guys are not that organized, they are not super regimented. Judging by the way the Hashira's behave anythings fine so long as you are strong enough. Also, acting out based on your emotions is fine too...Like no discipline at all. You wanna stab somebody? Sure fine, if you got the strength you can do whatever the fuck you want or whatever. You want to headbutt someone? Sure fine, why not?? It's all fun and games. The other Hashiras are laughing so it must be okay to solve problems through violence.


The Master is said to have a soothing voice by Tanjiro...really he just seems to be one of the few with some damn patience and self control. The Hashira's know their Master. They trust and,judging by how they all snapped to bowing, highly respect their Master. So why the hell could they not wait til their Master showed up to pass judgement on Tanjiro? Wind dude's manner of speaking changed once the Master appeared. He stopped acting like a thug immediately. You'd think that level of respect would extend to believing in the Master enough to wait long enough to hear his opinions on the matter before jumping the gun...er sword? Like, forget order and obedience for a second. Just pure human nature and relationships. In the end their Master took the time to hear all of the Hashira's that have options out. He gave thoughtful responses to their worries. Even let the Wind guy perform his test. Explained to Tanjiro that such tests may happen in the future because of course folks are gonna be freaked out over a demon. With a master like that you'd think the Hashira's would be more chill? Like they would try to emulate the Master they claim to have such faith in and just wait a moment...cuz really that was all that was being asked of them, to wait until the full story was told.

That is the "blind obedience" expected of them. To give Tanjiro and Nezuko a fair trial. Not to agree with everything. Just to hear them out before rushing to execution. The "blind obedience" expected of Tanjiro? To just drop the fact that he and his sister were not given a fair trial. Or at very least just drop the fact that the arrest leading up to their "trial" was unfair, abusive, negligent, like...police brutality level shit except with demons because he's getting the shit kicked out of him and his sister is getting tortured but he's being expected to let it all go and not fight back.





Like you said, let's go back to the beginning. None of them actually did anything to Tanjirou and his sister before the master show up, minus the wind guy. They all just discuss what to do with Tanjirou base on the code of conduct and their own opinion, cause you know, this is one of the reason they was summoned, to discuss this and give their own opinion. Yes, most of those opinion was negative, but they still hadn't done anything to the unconscious Tanjirou. You can't blame someone for giving their own opinion on the subject that they was asked about with their base on their knowledge. Also the demon hunter isn't a government organization, and to them Nezuko isn't a human or criminal to be treated fairly, in their eyes she a man eating monster that can snap at any moment and kill countless innocent while her brother is a demon hunter yet don't see her as a thread, putting the life of innocent in danger by keeping her alive. We the viewers can see that they wrong cause we have following them, but they don't have that knowledge. The only interaction they have with the demons is kill or be killed.

Also about the wind guy, i not that he don't respect his master, it because he have too much respect for his master. Someone he clearly look up to and revere, that why he can't accept his master decision, a decision that in his eye go again anything they stand for, the destruction of demonkind. And the master know it gonna be hard to convince them, that why he don't tell them about Tamayo.
 
Sep 11, 11:26 AM
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Like you said, let's go back to the beginning. None of them actually did anything to Tanjirou and his sister before the master show up, minus the wind guy. They all just discuss what to do with Tanjirou base on the code of conduct and their own opinion, cause you know, this is one of the reason they was summoned, to discuss this and give their own opinion. Yes, most of those opinion was negative, but they still hadn't done anything to the unconscious Tanjirou. You can't blame someone for giving their own opinion on the subject that they was asked about with their base on their knowledge. Also the demon hunter isn't a government organization, and to them Nezuko isn't a human or criminal to be treated fairly, in their eyes she a man eating monster that can snap at any moment and kill countless innocent while her brother is a demon hunter yet don't see her as a thread, putting the life of innocent in danger by keeping her alive. We the viewers can see that they wrong cause we have following them, but they don't have that knowledge. The only interaction they have with the demons is kill or be killed.

Also about the wind guy, i not that he don't respect his master, it because he have too much respect for his master. Someone he clearly look up to and revere, that why he can't accept his master decision, a decision that in his eye go again anything they stand for, the destruction of demonkind. And the master know it gonna be hard to convince them, that why he don't tell them about Tamayo.


And despite all of that the only one that Tanjiro was insubordinate to was the Wind Hashira. Arguably the Master by interrupting with his request to headbutt the Wind Hashsira. The others not just talking about killing him, but talking about killing him without the need to have a trial at all. Something that the Insect Hashira stopped. And as they continued to argue for their need to not wait the Master. The Love Hashira was the one who brought up the impossibility of their Master not knowing anything about the situation at all, and suggested that they should wait. Then the Wind Hashira crashes the party.

And it isn't that I don't think the Wind guy respects his master at all, just obviously not enough to have patience. He and the snake had no argument. And nothing to offer to counter balance the letter written by Tanjiro's teacher. Just anger and violence. There is very little point in giving such strong people authority if they can not be trusted. It shouldn't be a hard ask for them to not go behind his back and kill Tamayo and her assistant. How much blood lust does one have to have that not killing two "enemies" is unconscionable?
 
Sep 11, 11:34 AM

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Pouting nezuko won this episode
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Sep 11, 2:43 PM
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The Hashiras seem like lazy writing but knowing the structure has made the world a lot more interesting, bet the Master is a former Demon.


Let's see the amazing works of art that you've written, since you have the gall to call someones else's work "lazy writing"...... pretentious lil shit
 
Sep 11, 9:35 PM
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An episode with an intense beginning, then fun, touching, and finally, great, with all the Pillars gathered together. I knew that Nezuko would not disappoint me. Inosuke made me laugh when I saw him so peaceful lying on his bed, and Zenitsu is like Deadpool when he cut his limbs, hahaha.
There was also a mention of the Tsukugo, heirs of the pillars. But what still leaves me in doubt is whether there is a pillar for each "breathing technique", so where are the Pillars of Lightning and Wild (I mean the techniques that Zenitsu and Inosuke use). Anyway, Tanjiro has been very grateful to the people who have helped him and Nezuko in his journey, with a goal of becoming stronger, he could become one of the strongest demon slayers, since he dominates two techniques Breathing: Fire and Water. I would like you to tell one of the pillars or the same employer in the next episode to see their reactions 😅.
 
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An episode with an intense beginning, then fun, touching, and finally, great, with all the Pillars gathered together. I knew that Nezuko would not disappoint me. Inosuke made me laugh when I saw him so peaceful lying on his bed, and Zenitsu is like Deadpool when he cut his limbs, hahaha.
There was also a mention of the Tsukugo, heirs of the pillars. But what still leaves me in doubt is whether there is a pillar for each "breathing technique", so where are the Pillars of Lightning and Wild (I mean the techniques that Zenitsu and Inosuke use). Anyway, Tanjiro has been very grateful to the people who have helped him and Nezuko in his journey, with a goal of becoming stronger, he could become one of the strongest demon slayers, since he dominates two techniques Breathing: Fire and Water. I would like you to tell one of the pillars or the same employer in the next episode to see their reactions 😅.


No, there no pillar for every Breathing style, there 9 pillars position and it just got fill by whoever meet the requirement. The name base on the style of whoever in that position.
 
Sep 12, 10:07 AM

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Really good episode but man this show is in a pretty weird place where they're in between arcs and there's only 3 episodes left so I wonder what is going to happen because there's no shot they start another actual arc unless they plan to leave us on a cliffhanger which would suck ass lmaoooo
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Sep 12, 8:49 PM
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Ok does some one know if the voice actors for the servants in this episode are Kaguya and Miyuki from Love is War?!! They sound so familiar!!
 
Sep 12, 9:33 PM

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Man, when Inosuke said "I'm sorry for being so weak", it hit me so hard T_T
 
Sep 13, 11:31 AM
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Pretty Chill ep overally but the pillars are not happy about what has happened. Glad to see the rest pf the squad back but insouke breaks my heart when he said he wasnt strong enough :(
 
Sep 13, 3:57 PM
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It is so nice to see that Nezuko is managing to keep her humanity. She is so strong and that is mostly part of how loving her brother is and what his master said.

This is honestly one of the most well put together animes I have seen in a long while.

I can't wait for the next episode.
 
Sep 14, 9:08 AM

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Nezuko's strong will to hold back her demon instincts is truly remarkable.

Zenitsu and Inosuke are in bad shape, but they are alive and treated with medicines in a safe place. :)

This episode was rather calm, but was as enjoyable as those filled with action. I love this anime, haha.
 
Sep 14, 10:40 AM

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So what is The Master's story....there's got to be something odd with him.

Also that was one epic snot rocket.
 
Sep 14, 12:28 PM
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nigga shit boutta go down next episode
 
Sep 15, 4:57 PM
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Now I see why the Hashiras have been called a stupid organization. Ugh, bureaucracy. Ugh, Sanemi aka scars guy. Wth, Iguro. It would be nice to hear the Master's story. Pfft, my personal theory is he's Muzan in disguise considering his scars are on the upper half of his face. (¬‿¬) Or maybe he or one of his relatives fought Muzan at some point etc etc. If they bring up how demon slayers who have been through some kind of tragedy end up being stronger hope they just... start from the top because it's like they're breaking their own rules here. Also maybe it's not the students, but the teachers who are weak. It's a bell curve of strong and weak. :p Good Nezuko episode. Tomioka's so cool~ Zenitsu, stop yelling. Would be nice to get some more scenes of Inosuke without his mask which is kinda sad to say, but he's got one of my favorite character designs in the series so far.
 
Sep 15, 5:36 PM

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Glad to see Zenitsu and Inousuke again. Inousuke is depressed though.

All the Hashiras sure have some unique personalities.
 
Sep 15, 11:15 PM

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I feel really bad for Inosuke. He sounds destroyed (he really is tho)
 
Sep 16, 12:26 PM

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Can anyone please tell me if Zenitsu ever stops crying and complaining like crazy?
 
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