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Shadow_Strider said: Yautja said: I don't actually think he would have an issue with Shinra. I mean if being over the top and passionate was a deciding factor he wouldn't use All Might as his basis for what a true hero is. Shinra may be loud but he is very sincere, he doesn't want to be a hero for the wrong reasons, he's not in it for fame or for wealth, he simply wants to help people. Because his beliefs and reason for wanting to be a Hero is sincere it falls in line with Stain's ideology as well. Essentially Stain despises people that call themselves hero's for personal gain.I'm just trying imagine how sadistically Stain would kill Shinra considering how hollow his idea of a hero is and how often and how he screams about heroes. I can only imagine how much Stain would loathe him. I don't think you and I have been watching the same anime. His ideas and actions of what heroes are seem entirely empty and self-absorbed. Stain hates fakes, and Shinra most definitely is a fake. I know a lot of people have brought it up in past episode forums and it's already been explained better than I could, and anyways, All Might and Shinra aren't even close to comparable as heroes. |
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| A decent episode, in comparison to what's come before it. However, the OTT fan-service really is a turn-off. I don't mind it being used sparingly during a quieter, more exposition-heaving episode to break up any monotony, but it completely ruins any tension created when serious action is taking place. Having not read the manga, I've got no basis for comparison, but could any manga reader enlighten me as to whether this a faithful adaptation, or have the studio been under-par in their delivery this season? |
Lindsey_Joy57 said: Hatsuyuki said: Oh would you look at that. The stupid, useless character whose sole purpose in the show is to be a tool for fanservice is being used for fanservice even during fight scenes, leading to anticlimactic disruptions of the fight https://i.imgur.com/MLX23BS.png https://i.imgur.com/DK6nAT1.png https://i.imgur.com/3H0lUGN.png Wow, you managed to put into words exactly how I felt during this episode. I'm trying really hard to like Tamaki because her powers are cool and I bet she'd be super cool later on (I'm not reading the manga so idk) but so far her only actual character trait is that she's a source of constant fanservice. I don't mind fanservice in anime at all, until it gets in the way of good scenes. I feel that too. I was interested in Tamaki since I saw her in the opening and even more since she first appeared, but that "lucky-pervert" thing is so weird and forced that it's making me hard to like her, even though I really want to |
yvanedisco said: DedPanda said: Tamaki is voiced by Yuuki Aoi, that's all I need. That's all WE need. AMEN. You mean Latom instead ;) |
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Yautja said: Shadow_Strider said: I don't actually think he would have an issue with Shinra. I mean if being over the top and passionate was a deciding factor he wouldn't use All Might as his basis for what a true hero is. Shinra may be loud but he is very sincere, he doesn't want to be a hero for the wrong reasons, he's not in it for fame or for wealth, he simply wants to help people. Because his beliefs and reason for wanting to be a Hero is sincere it falls in line with Stain's ideology as well. Essentially Stain despises people that call themselves hero's for personal gain. I don't think you and I have been watching the same anime. His ideas and actions of what heroes are seem entirely empty and self-absorbed. Stain hates fakes, and Shinra most definitely is a fake. I know a lot of people have brought it up in past episode forums and it's already been explained better than I could, and anyways, All Might and Shinra aren't even close to comparable as heroes. Care to explain? (Or link to one of those posts) From what I've seen Shinra is very sincere, his answer to Juggernaut last episode is good proof of that "no need to have big motivation, as long as you save people that's fine". Anyways, I think it's the last time Tamaki's fanservice is used with mood whiplash that jarring. Well... except maybe for that one infamous fight (you know the one) depending if you consider it serious or not at all. Disappointed they left the part after Rekka's death with the other companies. Well, maybe next episode. |
| Goddamit Arthur how da faq did u get lost?!? Anyways, great episode overall. Fight was badass, but now wdk who killed Rekka. Also a nice amount of fanservice from Takami if I do say so myself. End credits was funny too with him trying to get her number, but for the wrong reasons lol. Their faces when Shinra asked though were funny |
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| -For some reason, I thought the blow from the last episode would have been enough to kill him. -What a great fight. Easily the best one yet. The action, the sound effects, the everything. My only problem was that FS interruption. -I really liked seeing more of Rekka's ability. -I was very surprised when Rekka died. I was even more surprised when that fox-faced guy lost an arm. -I felt bad for the 2 Lieutenants. It's got to be really hard on them. Overall, this might have been the best episode yet. I really hope this ends up being one of those shows that only had a weak start. I hope the writing stays consistently good as it has been in the last 2 episodes. I may end up liking this show after all. My only problem with this episode is that the villain's motives seem so, so damn stupid, and if their true motive really is that stupid, it'll definitely affect the rest of the show. Hatsuyuki said: Rider9530 said: Just so you know the author didn't want to do it when he started the manga but the fairy tail author said to him that it will help his manga a lot, so i guess you can blame the fairy tail author for the random fan service. Or I can just blame him for listening to dumb advice. Why would you ever let someone dictate your own work ? >Either way I am fine with fan service as long as it's not oddly placed within the episode, which is almost always the case for Fire Force. This. Fan Service is going to happen in anime. To me, it's no big deal, but when it interrupts a good fight, it becomes a problem. >Or I can just blame him for listening to dumb advice. Why would you ever let someone dictate your own work ? I also agree with this. Passing the blame is annoying. The author wrote it in. It's his fault. amagirinomikoto said: what an idiotic episode putting the fight between rekka and shinra aside, tamaki was so useless this episode that it literally pained me. she sits there doing nothing just watching the fight and crying, and then is used as fanservice for NO REASON whatsoever. i want to see the fight. i dont need this cringey fanservice shit in the middle of a serious fight. is tamaki being reduced to the damsel in distress/"useless weak female" character? so idiotic i lost brain cells watching this episode i know obviously the fight was the main focus but honestly tamaki's uselessness was what stood out to me, more than the fight itself Actually, she did end up helping. She helped with that Lieutenant's plan. But you make a decent point. Why is someone as useless as her a fire soldier anyway? Maybe she got in the Fire Force THAT way. TsukuyomiREKT said: So much whining every week... Coincidentally, this post comes off as whiny.  |
PikslapSep 9, 2019 4:43 PM
| They really had to add that completely unnecessary fanservice in the middle of a serious fight, huh? I like Tamaki. She's very cute and if her sole character is to be a damsel in distress who is the butt of fanservice jokes then so be it - I'm not really into it and I'd prefer it if her character was more fleshed out, but its not a deal breaker for me. I'll get over it and appreciate the love of my life, Maki instead. But to put it in the MIDDLE of a fight... dude, really? And the award for the dumbest way to completely break tension in a suspenseful fight goes to... Glad to see Arthur's now a Jedi. |
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WiselyKamelot said: Yautja said: I don't think you and I have been watching the same anime. His ideas and actions of what heroes are seem entirely empty and self-absorbed. Stain hates fakes, and Shinra most definitely is a fake. I know a lot of people have brought it up in past episode forums and it's already been explained better than I could, and anyways, All Might and Shinra aren't even close to comparable as heroes. Care to explain? (Or link to one of those posts) From what I've seen Shinra is very sincere, his answer to Juggernaut last episode is good proof of that "no need to have big motivation, as long as you save people that's fine". Anyways, I think it's the last time Tamaki's fanservice is used with mood whiplash that jarring. Well... except maybe for that one infamous fight (you know the one) depending if you consider it serious or not at all. Disappointed they left the part after Rekka's death with the other companies. Well, maybe next episode. For all his screaming about heroes he doesn't seem to have a cohesive definition of what a hero is or should be beyond the generics. He screams about being a hero simply because it sounds cool, he's mimicking a childhood borne idea and promise he made with his mom. Heroes don't really scream about being a hero to every person they meet. To me, as someone outside, it seems like those military chefs or reserve guys that go walking around in their camo trying to veteran discounts or whatever. Most guys that see battle don't do that kind of thing in the same way actual heroes don't scream about being a hero 24/7. The other obvious comparison is Arthur. Arthur isn't a knight. He just says he's a knight, king of knights or whatever, with no real definition of it beyond "it's cool" or "to get girls" (I think one of them said something about girls, correct me if I'm wrong). Shinra is the same but hero is just a more broad and lazy term. Anyways, what really pushes me away from him calling himself a hero is that's he's trying so hard to define himself as a hero and nothing else. It just comes off vain and like a hero fantasy. Wanting to be a hero to simply be hero seems like the exact opposite of what a hero is. It seems like most of them that I was thinking of came from the Ep.6 forum post. Though none of them were as good as I'd thought, just expressing similar complaints. I could probably do better if I rewatched the episodes where he's screaming about it, but fuck that. |
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-Stray said: Finally a damn badass episode through and through! That fight was amazing! The fight animation in this series is really its main selling point. Shinra's strong af. Feels like we almost got cloee to a bigger reveal, glad it didnt got revealed that fast. That being said if I had something to complain about its the weird ass fanservice in the middle of that high tension fight, Im fine with fanservice, rather I love it but couldnt it have wait till after the fight lol. That post credit scene! missed the fck out of Maki and Iris! WTF was Arthur doing? Looked like he was in his own chuuni imagination world again. Overall solid ep at long last! Lol your comment was shown in the new Mother's Basement video |
| Alright let's have a look at that fight again: [via Crunchyroll stream] 4:47 - 7:47 - Good fight for Shonen standards. - We get to know more about Rekka. - More about the strange bug Rekka uses. 7:50 - 8:04 Annnd here's the problem. Very forced, Shinra is fighting a literal psychopath who literally killed a child last episode. Yet after all that's happened last episode, they try to squeeze in this bullshit. Honestly, maybe it would be better in more comedic or light hearted places such as District 8 Headquarters like seen previously in the past few episodes. However, adding it here just undermines the whole atmosphere of what the mangaka is trying to build. - For 15 seconds, Rekka does nothing. This is a nitpick, so it's not huge. 8:17 - 8:39 Dear god, after only 15 seconds, more fanservice follows. Like honestly, this one goes for even longer. If not the first moment is anymore out of place, this one takes the cake. More of Rekka like: "I'll let them have their little moment". 8:40 - 8:55 Like, alright. I get the emotional situation that Tamaki went through before Shinra came. This scene would have been fine if NOT FOR THE POOR TRANSITION. Fanservice to an extremely emotional scene does not mix well at all. I'd honestly like to see Tamaki do more than rely on others and not be specifically for fanservice 90% of the time. - Lmao Rekka just there like "You done?" Summary: - Poorly out of place fanservice ruins the fight buildup and tense atmosphere. - Undermines Tamaki's emotional distress from the previous episode. - Jumbles the pacing to multiple sluggish halts. - Shit transitions. I'm struggling to watch this anime. I might make a review once it's finished, so I'll cling onto it hopefully. "Just drop the show if you don't like fanservice" There's a difference between well placed fanservice, and obviously forced "relief" fanservice |
ElucidSep 7, 2019 9:44 PM
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| We now have a clue of the fire case that happened to Shinra in the past. Tamaki bursting in to tears hurts my kokoro |
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| Ha Rekka actually said "Come at me bro!" in the dub. XD Also I'm not sure why Tamaki couldn't help in the dub. Should have had her be visibly injured to justify her staying out of the fight. |
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| this episode was a funny cute and very cool fight scene sweet and oh that star dude wants to make the world into a fucking sun now that what I call a next level shit crazy overall 8/10 I can't wait for the next episode |
SaiDxvLightSep 7, 2019 11:18 PM
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| The whole episode is a banger! absolutely awesome!!! the clashing! the intense fire sniping and especially Shinra can now fight toe-to-toe from someone that is squad 1 capable level! 5/5. |
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| Cringe. Cringe. Cringe. So much Cringe in one episode. Rekka’s Whole existence can be summed up in one word or less. There was a proper fight scene this time, which is a great progress from previous abruptly wrapped up ones but I really struggle to take any of this seriously. Tamaki reminds me of Hinamori Momo and it’s been a while I found a character’s mere presence so gyrating on my nerves. I am also seeing a lot of similarities with other popular animes, which is a tad disappointing. I honestly could not enjoy this episode despite the well animated fight and great sound effects. At least seeing team 8 back in frames again was a welcome relief. I hope we can see more of the captain and vice captain. |
Black_Sheep97 said: BlackstarFallen said: it's there for humor and in this instance for tonal levity, it's fine and isn't overly pornographicThe stupid fanservice is ruining the show. It needs to stop. That doesn't matter. It's still stupid. |
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| People are disappointed with the episode but it's just animating what's in the source material. Although in the manga, one of the kids died or was a failed experiment, I think. I'm too lazy to verify. The best part of this episode were the action scenes, a glimpse of our future antagonists and Tamaki. Tamaki will always be used for fan service, nothing is going to change. It will get worse as the series progresses so if it bothers you, either drop the series or forward the parts where she shows up. I still like her simply because she's fucking adorable and sexy. She's the most popular female character in the series according to the character popularity polls with Maki, the gorgeous witch coming in third. I'm waiting for the 7th brigade to show up, the leader of the 7th brigade is a bamf. |
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Mattinator95 said: Rider9530 said: I know he wrote soul eater and i also thought that it doesn't make sense but i read it on an article a long time ago and i didn't save the article so im not going to look for it. I don't really care if the article was true or just a lie, i just said that this is what i read on it. soul eater also has a character like tamki i think , someone mentioned it before Yeah it had a lot of characters like tamki. |
Yautja said: WiselyKamelot said: Care to explain? (Or link to one of those posts) From what I've seen Shinra is very sincere, his answer to Juggernaut last episode is good proof of that "no need to have big motivation, as long as you save people that's fine". Anyways, I think it's the last time Tamaki's fanservice is used with mood whiplash that jarring. Well... except maybe for that one infamous fight (you know the one) depending if you consider it serious or not at all. Disappointed they left the part after Rekka's death with the other companies. Well, maybe next episode. For all his screaming about heroes he doesn't seem to have a cohesive definition of what a hero is or should be beyond the generics. He screams about being a hero simply because it sounds cool, he's mimicking a childhood borne idea and promise he made with his mom. Heroes don't really scream about being a hero to every person they meet. To me, as someone outside, it seems like those military chefs or reserve guys that go walking around in their camo trying to veteran discounts or whatever. Most guys that see battle don't do that kind of thing in the same way actual heroes don't scream about being a hero 24/7. The other obvious comparison is Arthur. Arthur isn't a knight. He just says he's a knight, king of knights or whatever, with no real definition of it beyond "it's cool" or "to get girls" (I think one of them said something about girls, correct me if I'm wrong). Shinra is the same but hero is just a more broad and lazy term. Anyways, what really pushes me away from him calling himself a hero is that's he's trying so hard to define himself as a hero and nothing else. It just comes off vain and like a hero fantasy. Wanting to be a hero to simply be hero seems like the exact opposite of what a hero is. It seems like most of them that I was thinking of came from the Ep.6 forum post. Though none of them were as good as I'd thought, just expressing similar complaints. I could probably do better if I rewatched the episodes where he's screaming about it, but fuck that. Hum but what Stain was denouncing was not the manner of beings of the hero, it was their motivation. He was calling them out for their selfishness and basically the whole system that pushed people to become heroes for selfish reasons instead of heroic drive. Here in Fire force, there are many people like that, Hibana, or the rookie from the 5th (he said he was a firefighter for recognition). Shinra doesnt care about that. One of the main themes of the series is the power of self-delusion. Basically the point is that if Shinra believes he will be a hero and doesnt give up on, he will eventually embody his ideals and become an genuive one. You're use of the word "fantasy" is just on point, it's precisely the point. It's all about motivations and beliefs that serve as drive for your lifestyle. Interestingly enough Shinra is aware that he is not a hero yet, which reinforces that he does have heroic standards but hasnt reached them yet. Arthur is tied with this theme as well but you'll see later. |
| If you check the manga you will notice they skipped a lot like rest of 8th squad fighting giant incarnate from OP. |
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BlackstarFallen said: Gonna give this a +1The stupid fanservice is ruining the show. It needs to stop. I could give less of a shit if you put the fanservice during the down-time scenes like hot springs or beach. Just stop putting it in the middle of a serious fight. Like y'all really thought this was appropriate for the middle of a serious fight?  If you horny fans want to jack off, read a doujinshi or watch a hentai. This is not the place. And to the person who said it was for comedy, it's not even funny. More-so cringeworthy. |
| Waifu of the season being nude? What an episode :3 |
| But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. |
| Is Arthur the last jedi or some shit? |
WiselyKamelot said: Yautja said: For all his screaming about heroes he doesn't seem to have a cohesive definition of what a hero is or should be beyond the generics. He screams about being a hero simply because it sounds cool, he's mimicking a childhood borne idea and promise he made with his mom. Heroes don't really scream about being a hero to every person they meet. To me, as someone outside, it seems like those military chefs or reserve guys that go walking around in their camo trying to veteran discounts or whatever. Most guys that see battle don't do that kind of thing in the same way actual heroes don't scream about being a hero 24/7. The other obvious comparison is Arthur. Arthur isn't a knight. He just says he's a knight, king of knights or whatever, with no real definition of it beyond "it's cool" or "to get girls" (I think one of them said something about girls, correct me if I'm wrong). Shinra is the same but hero is just a more broad and lazy term. Anyways, what really pushes me away from him calling himself a hero is that's he's trying so hard to define himself as a hero and nothing else. It just comes off vain and like a hero fantasy. Wanting to be a hero to simply be hero seems like the exact opposite of what a hero is. It seems like most of them that I was thinking of came from the Ep.6 forum post. Though none of them were as good as I'd thought, just expressing similar complaints. I could probably do better if I rewatched the episodes where he's screaming about it, but fuck that. Hum but what Stain was denouncing was not the manner of beings of the hero, it was their motivation. He was calling them out for their selfishness and basically the whole system that pushed people to become heroes for selfish reasons instead of heroic drive. Here in Fire force, there are many people like that, Hibana, or the rookie from the 5th (he said he was a firefighter for recognition). Shinra doesnt care about that. One of the main themes of the series is the power of self-delusion. Basically the point is that if Shinra believes he will be a hero and doesnt give up on, he will eventually embody his ideals and become an genuive one. You're use of the word "fantasy" is just on point, it's precisely the point. It's all about motivations and beliefs that serve as drive for your lifestyle. Interestingly enough Shinra is aware that he is not a hero yet, which reinforces that he does have heroic standards but hasnt reached them yet. Arthur is tied with this theme as well but you'll see later. And of every hero he's met, he's only respect two. Somehow I doubt such a generic character as Shinra would be the third. |
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Black_Sheep97 said: BlackstarFallen said: it's may be stupid but it's still well incoperated and brings tonal levity.That doesn't matter. It's still stupid. No, it doesn't. It's stupid and it gets in the way. |
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Mayuka said: BlackstarFallen said: Gonna give this a +1The stupid fanservice is ruining the show. It needs to stop. I could give less of a shit if you put the fanservice during the down-time scenes like hot springs or beach. Just stop putting it in the middle of a serious fight. Like y'all really thought this was appropriate for the middle of a serious fight? If you horny fans want to jack off, read a doujinshi or watch a hentai. This is not the place. And to the person who said it was for comedy, it's not even funny. More-so cringeworthy. I agree. Putting fanservice in the middle of the fight was unnecessary. |
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 Man, what kind of Tamaki fanservice this was.  In the manga Tamaki's fansrivice was way better. |
| Man I can't wait to see the later manga stuff animated, we finally get the evangelist name dropped in the anime as well as arolla burst |
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