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Himawari9 said: I know that people will hate the Pillars after this episode. People forget that they are demon slayers and Nezuko is a demon. We as audiences know her history but the Pillars don't. There is no proof that Nezuko didn't kill any human and will never do that. All of the Pillars have their family, friends, comrades kill by demons so asking them to accept a demon immediately is hard. On a side note, I like all of Pillars even Sanemi. It is hard to pick a favorite among them. Maybe Rengoku and Shinobu but Gyomei and Uzui are cool too. I don't this people have forgotten the pillars are demons slayer or that Nezuko is a demon. It's kind of the whole concept of the show. This pillars are just shit Shounen tropes. |
Esquirtit said: ExaltedChampion said: We the viewers can see that tanjirou telling the truth, but the in-universe character don't. They even ask Tanjirou what kind of proof does he have that she hadn't or will not attack human. Also what credible witness? Giyuu who haven't seen them in 2 years and know nothing about what happen to them all that time? Urokodaki who have a soft spot for his pupil and also haven't meet tehm for sometime now? Inosuke and Zenitsu, 2 rookies and currently out of commission? Also Wind Pillar probably the one that have the hardest time accept this due to his past. I can understand not trusting her immediately but impaling her with a sword is simply retarded (she was in a small box ffs). I mean they are aware good demons do exist in this world right? You would think if the leader ordered to bring her to him something's right. Note that we don't see them discuss any of the facts, they were being retarded. They were being violent for the sake of it while waiting for their leader to arrive and clear things up. Needless gore and edge imo What hat about those birds, how bad are they at relaying information. Why didn't Urokodakimore tell he hypnotized her. This is the same organization that sends kids to their death in a trial so whatever. And lowest of the low demon slayers to a place where hundreds have died just to get that death count running high lol what No, the pillars don't know there good demon cause there like 3 ( Tamayo and her assistant + Nezuko). Also 2 of which are hiding from both Muzan and the corp, of course no one know about that. For the Pillars, this is the first time something like this have happen, so of course their can't believe it, It like you show up to your school with a xenomorph and said it friendly and won't eat human without having any proof. Also it clear that the leader invite the Pillars here for a reason, for them to accept the sibling since they gonna work together in the future. He also know his subordinates well enough to know how to convince them Also they did discuss fact, the fact that if she kill someone, it cannot be undone and Tanjirou word alone cannot be trusted cause he is Nezuko brother. Remember that in-universe character don't have insight of the readers. |
| Such a powerful episode...hmmmm a bit sad that only four episodes are left |
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ExaltedChampion said: Esquirtit said: I can understand not trusting her immediately but impaling her with a sword is simply retarded (she was in a small box ffs). I mean they are aware good demons do exist in this world right? You would think if the leader ordered to bring her to him something's right. Note that we don't see them discuss any of the facts, they were being retarded. They were being violent for the sake of it while waiting for their leader to arrive and clear things up. Needless gore and edge imo What hat about those birds, how bad are they at relaying information. Why didn't Urokodakimore tell he hypnotized her. This is the same organization that sends kids to their death in a trial so whatever. And lowest of the low demon slayers to a place where hundreds have died just to get that death count running high lol what No, the pillars don't know there good demon cause there like 3 ( Tamayo and her assistant + Nezuko). Also 2 of which are hiding from both Muzan and the corp, of course no one know about that. For the Pillars, this is the first time something like this have happen, so of course their can't believe it, It like you show up to your school with a xenomorph and said it friendly and won't eat human without having any proof. Also it clear that the leader invite the Pillars here for a reason, for them to accept the sibling since they gonna work together in the future. He also know his subordinates well enough to know how to convince them Also they did discuss fact, the fact that if she kill someone, it cannot be undone and Tanjirou word alone cannot be trusted cause he is Nezuko brother. Remember that in-universe character don't have insight of the readers. Oh I see, I didn't remember that they were hiding from the corps. I thought Tanjiro would notify the corpe of their existence anyway Yeah I know they'll accept her but how violent they were was too edgy. Ur analogy doesn't work cause it's an organization that has worked with demons for centuries |
EsquirtitSep 1, 2019 6:35 AM
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| Gah! Curse you, cliffhanger! Now you have me craving for the next episode already! XD Anyway, the trial with most of the Hashiras was pretty intimidating, apart from Mitsuri, the Love Hashira. She's gorgeous and she's also voiced by Hana Kanazawa as well, which is a bonus. =3 Their different range of personalities was pretty cool, although Sanemi, the Wind Hashira, was acting like a prick. Even though Tanjiro had his arms tied behind his back, he made such an excellent move to headbutt Sanemi in the head after he deviously injured Nezuko in front of him. No denying that the arrogant bastard deserved, too. Thankfully, the master arrived and everyone fell into line. He's ruled that Tanjiro and Nezuko should be pardoned, backed up by a letter from Urokodaki. Hopefully Giyuu should be off the hook for his actions, too. Despite the letter and the master's ruling, some of the Hashiras couldn't really accept it and although some of their points was valid, Tanjiro and Nezuko's encounter with Kibutsuji has given the demon slayers a golden opportunity that shouldn't by thrown away. However, angry Sanemi was still acting defiant and went to slice his arm and let his blood drip out, trying to bait Nezuko into attacking him and to prove his point. I really do hope that Nezuko resists the urge here and holds her ground. You can do it, Nezuko! ^_^ |
Esquirtit said: ExaltedChampion said: No, the pillars don't know there good demon cause there like 3 ( Tamayo and her assistant + Nezuko). Also 2 of which are hiding from both Muzan and the corp, of course no one know about that. For the Pillars, this is the first time something like this have happen, so of course their can't believe it, It like you show up to your school with a xenomorph and said it friendly and won't eat human without having any proof. Also it clear that the leader invite the Pillars here for a reason, for them to accept the sibling since they gonna work together in the future. He also know his subordinates well enough to know how to convince them Also they did discuss fact, the fact that if she kill someone, it cannot be undone and Tanjirou word alone cannot be trusted cause he is Nezuko brother. Remember that in-universe character don't have insight of the readers. Oh I see, I didn't remember that they were hiding from the corps. I thought Tanjiro would notify the corpe of their existence anyway Yeah I know they'll accept her but how violent they were was too edgy. Ur analogy doesn't work cause it's a organization thar has worked with demons for centuries I think Tanjirou smart enough to not inform people about Tamayo since she want to not get involve with the demon hunter, she only help Tanjirou cause she saw his compassion and Nezuko unique case. Also by work with demon for centuries you mean kill demons or be killed by demons during all those time cause that the only interaction between demon hunter and demon. |
| I already strongly disliked the Pillars at first but after the Master said that Tanjiro and Nezuko were accepted from the start now I hate them. Tanjiro should be in bed what the hell. What a despicable bunch of people they are seriously! The headbutt was more than satisfying. lol |
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ExaltedChampion said: Esquirtit said: Oh I see, I didn't remember that they were hiding from the corps. I thought Tanjiro would notify the corpe of their existence anyway Yeah I know they'll accept her but how violent they were was too edgy. Ur analogy doesn't work cause it's a organization thar has worked with demons for centuries I think Tanjirou smart enough to not inform people about Tamayo since she want to not get involve with the demon hunter, she only help Tanjirou cause she saw his compassion and Nezuko unique case. Also by work with demon for centuries you mean kill demons or be killed by demons during all those time cause that the only interaction between demon hunter and demon. I mean they have a lot of information about demons. Just adding to that wouldn't hurt |
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mecegirl said: Nubiellee said: I already strongly disliked the Pillars at first but after the Master said that Tanjiro and Nezuko were accepted from the start now I hate them. Tanjiro should be in bed what the hell. What a despicable bunch of people they are seriously! The headbutt was more than satisfying. lol They made such a big fuss about a slayer accompanying a demon being against the rules but like, do they have a strong enough organization to have rules? What really is the chain of command? How did the master know all of this information but not spread such information to the Hashiras? A group that seems to have authority second only to him had no idea what was going on, but instead of waiting to be filled in half were rushing to just make their own judgements without getting the whole story. They didn't even want to know the whole story. If, for whatever reason, the master hadn't shown up when he did(cuz dramatic timing for the plot) they would have killed Nezuko and Tanjiro. But more importantly they would have ruined a chance to learn more about this series main antagonist. Completely squandered an opportunity to at LEAST use the siblings as bait for Muzan and the twelve moons. Its just not impressive at all. They behave in such a disorganized way that I really don't care how strong they are supposed to be or how cool their powers are. Why root for a bunch of meatheads?? Yeah, they didn't care or didn't want to hear Tanjiro's story this is unbelievable. So I will not care about their stories too. :) |
| Life is a despicable endurance race |
| well i try, I really try to have a open mind about the seiyu of Himejima but the characterization wrong. in the hypothetical case of other seasons when Himejima says fucking kids because they are liars bastards, that part maybe lost impact because the seiyu tries to give an imposing voice. |
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Bibimbapski said: Shinazugawa seems insane but after you read the manga or perhaps after the second, third, etc. season (but I suggest reading the manga) you will understand why he acts the way he does. Just like each demon Tanjirou fights have their own tragic backstory, so do the Hashira or Pillars. Just remember, the saying "everyone has a story" rings true in this series. I've read it, and it still doesnt justify what he's done to Nezuko since it already came from their boss that Nezuko has not killed anyone yet, so by far she is still innocent, demon or not even a human can be a demon ''not in the literal sense but you get it'' what went down was basically Shinazugawa not accepting that Nezuko will remain the way she is, the irrational roundabout way on his solution is.. he put Nezuko in a spot where it wouldnt surprise anyone if he gets attacked which was dumb af, you know normally anyone would fight back if someone stabs you not just once but multiple times right. Their past doesnt change the fact that they treated a member of their demon slaying corps and an innocent demon unjustly and torture despite their positions of being their top slayers. |
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| cant wait for episode 23 this episode was fire fire fire |
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| Hey, the pillars a bunch of generic no brain fuckers, at least most of them. |
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| Plenty of exposition and new character intros that were to be bound to happen at some point given the source material. I suppose given that they've been trained to ruthlessly dispatch demons, who in their eyes, have no redeemable qualities whatsoever is somewhat understandable when faced with Nezuko. They probably haven't seen a demon like her and just assume that they're all the same and need to be dispatched without mercy. I quite like how Shinobu seems to have calmed down a little and is willing to at least hear Tanjiro out. Kanroji was predictable given her title. The Mist was blissfully ignorant either way, but the rest were pretty brutal in how they treated both MC's, even after hearing what their master had to say. The Hashira's obviously have their differences and prefer to work as individuals, but that bodes well for how they are written in future to be honest. All of the various character archetypes have been covered. Most of the them behaved and sounded like I'd imagined they would. Decent episode so 4/5. |
Janethan23 said: WorldoverHeaven said: - When you say soft are you suggesting he's actually weak? Do you judge the merits of leadership simply on ruling with an Iron fist or someone who actually uses logic and reason. So far the master has demonstrated prudence by not being consumed by vengance his subordinates have shown. master is a soft pearson . the leader is probably one of the best leaders in a shounen jump series I've seen to date. I won't spoil why though. its not his fault that the majority of the pillars are dysfunctional or assholes. (as you will see later.) |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| ubuyashiki is probably the best character in any shounen ever made. |
Mike4992 said: -Stray said: God damn it, I cant resist the urge anymore, time to binge the fucking manga. That was me when I finished episode 19. From what I've heard, it's totally worth it. And what's great is, that the whole manga series is definitely getting an adaptation! Wow really, is this true (source)? And will ufotable continue to do the adaption? AFAIK, the manga has nearly 190 chapters and we are at like what, Chapter 50 or so now? So there definitely already is more than enough material. |
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| I'm absolutely convinced that space cadet Mist Hashira is Inosuke's sibling Tanjiro's headbutt made me lol xD |
Warghost said: Mike4992 said: That was me when I finished episode 19. From what I've heard, it's totally worth it. And what's great is, that the whole manga series is definitely getting an adaptation! Wow really, is this true (source)? And will ufotable continue to do the adaption? AFAIK, the manga has nearly 190 chapters and we are at like what, Chapter 50 or so now? So there definitely already is more than enough material. There's enough for 3 seasons, KnY is up at CH 172. They adapt 2-3 chapters each ep. We are currently at CH 47 (early, there are still some pages left to complete it) AFAIK it hasnt been confirmed if Ufo's gonna do a full adaptation, they said its up to the fans support, but people are taking that as a yes because KnY's popularity spread like crazy so they think it'll have enough supporters in buying its merchs and blu-rays. Who knows. My favorite arc wont happen till like S3, I might be dead by then lol. |
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-Stray said: Warghost said: Wow really, is this true (source)? And will ufotable continue to do the adaption? AFAIK, the manga has nearly 190 chapters and we are at like what, Chapter 50 or so now? So there definitely already is more than enough material. There's enough for 3 seasons, KnY is up at CH 172. They adapt 2-3 chapters each ep. We are currently at CH 47 (early, there are still some pages left to complete it) AFAIK it hasnt been confirmed if Ufo's gonna do a full adaptation, they said its up to the fans support, but people are taking that as a yes because KnY's popularity spread like crazy so they think it'll have enough supporters in buying its merchs and blu-rays. Who knows. My favorite arc wont happen till like S3, I might be dead by then lol. I think it's safe to think they will make another season As you said, they said it's up to the support of the fans if they will make it a full adaptation And if the support is all they need, then they can start making season 2,since this anime is one of the biggest hit of 2019 and it's popularity has been growing insanely recently, that no-one expected in the studio They are definitely getting the support they need |
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| Personally, I liked the hashiras character designes and didn't mind their characters because I feel like they're still young so they have a lot to learn and demon slayers probs have a short life span so that's why most of them are pretty much still ignorant kids. Episode went super fast, can't wait for the next one!! |
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Nakamamonogatari said: I love the series, especially the stuff after this season's content, don't get me wrong. But I feel like the 8.73 is a bit too much of a score for the first season, and people hyping it up because of episode 19 (which 100% deserves the praise). I would understand this score if we talking about S2 or S3, but the first half of the season is badly paced, generic, and sometimes boring, that only the god tier presentation saves from being unnoticed by the community. So it's not a second coming of the anime Christ. Not for hating the show, but I hope it's score goes down when the season ends, a lot. I thought that today's episode was only 1 chapter stretched out, because it felt really slow, then I checked it, and it was 2 chapters and 5 pages. WTF? The VAs for the Pillars are also a god tier cast. I still don't know how many chapters they will adapt and how, but I'm curious to see. *Says loves the series* *Also wishes it had much lower score* I can't imagine how someone can feel this way On another note, I think the score will go up to 8.8 until the last episode, and will end up with a score of 8.7, a few weeks after the last episode, and I think it's totally deserved Also, if the first season has such a high score, then based on what I've read about the manga, if there will be season 2 or 3, they have a really high chance of ending up with 9+ score Many say this season is almost like a prologue to the real story Like S1 of Re:Zero(that's about 15% of the entire story) |
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-Aincrad- said: I think it's safe to think they will make another season As you said, they said it's up to the support of the fans if they will make it a full adaptation And if the support is all they need, then they can start making season 2,since this anime is one of the biggest hit of 2019 and it's popularity has been growing insanely recently, that no-one expected in the studio They are definitely getting the support they need I pray to God we get a full adaptation, after reading the manga I thought manga readers were just overhyping this up but they actually weren't, KnY's a gem. How this skipped my radar during its early days baffles me. Soon as this season ends I hope we get an announcement that they're already planning a sequel. |
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In this chapter we see the respect of the pillars towards his teacher and how, although they respect him very much, they can ignore him as the wind pillar that attacked Nezuko in the end, very good chapter, I hope the next one ^ _ ^\  |
| guess this is the time i have to read its manga, i cant endure my eagerness til next ep. Please someone protects Nezuko, these Hashiras are fu*** assholes ewww if the humanity could depend on them, god bless these little spirits bc all of them seem pretty selfish and narcisist who dont have any f*** affection for nothing as well no empathy at all. Rats with lavish clothes |
ok you all are pointing out the head but what about THIS AMAZING ELBOW?! |
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fallingfromsky said: guess this is the time i have to read its manga, i cant endure my eagerness til next ep. Please someone protects Nezuko, these Hashiras are fu*** assholes ewww if the humanity could depend on them, god bless these little spirits bc all of them seem pretty selfish and narcisist who dont have any f*** affection for nothing as well no empathy at all. Rats with lavish clothes "Rats with lavish clothes" That's a nicely turned phrase, and oh so apropos. I'll remember it while trying to purge the memory of the monsters in Dior. |
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| Well, I hope you guys are right and they keep having enough support to produce a 2nd (and more!) season. |
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Himawari9 said: DiegoNC said: I'm up to date with the manga, but I still don't like most of those pillars... I mean, they are powerful, have sad backsories, but still they shouldn't be insubordinate as they are, they are very bad leaders too... no wonder swordsmen die left and right with such a horrendous leadership. The Pillars aren't mean to be leaders of the Demon Slayers. Most Slayers operate alone so there is no need for a leader. They are Pillars because they are strong, not because they have leadership ability. It is obvious when you look at the criteria to become a Pillar, kill a Demon Moon or kill 50 demons and you will become a Pillars. It doesn't help that most Pillars died young before they even reach 25. They are leaders, they are summoned to discuss every six months matters of leadership of the corps and they obviously could take other swordsmen in their missions, and when they are in mission they give orders to the other swordsmen. They are obviously leaders, but the master can't rely much on them, only Shinobu shows that she is capable of leading something on a daily basis. If you pay attention everyone in that world consider them as the leaders of the Corps. BTW the only Hashira that ever showed why she is a Pillar is Shinobu, the rest are kinda ok, but not much more than raw power, except for Flamboyant Guy, Sanemi (Wind "Scar" Guy), and Obanai (Snake), those three are only jerks. |
DiegoNCSep 1, 2019 6:23 PM
| Man that just flew by in like 5 minutes! I wish it didn't end on such a cliffhanger, but it's obvious Nezuko isn't going to attack him. I mean, if she attacks him, she'd be instantly killed by the Hashiras, then they'd execute Tanjiro, then Tomioka and Urokodaki would commit seppuku because Nezuko attacked a human. And that would be the end of the anime. LOL! That was pretty awesome that Urokodaki and Tomioka put their lives on the line for Nezuko. It's also great storytelling that, that wasn't enough for most of the Hashiras. Normally, in this kind of situation, they'd just be like: "Okay, the master vouched for her." and move on. That's not realistic. You don't spend your whole life fighting and watching your friends die before the enemy, and then just be okay with a demon getting to live. I like that they're going so far, even disobeying the Master. |
| I peeked ahead at the manga and I'm actually glad I did, it toned down my excitement and now I can watch more calmly;; |
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-Stray said: Bibimbapski said: Shinazugawa seems insane but after you read the manga or perhaps after the second, third, etc. season (but I suggest reading the manga) you will understand why he acts the way he does. Just like each demon Tanjirou fights have their own tragic backstory, so do the Hashira or Pillars. Just remember, the saying "everyone has a story" rings true in this series. I've read it, and it still doesnt justify what he's done to Nezuko since it already came from their boss that Nezuko has not killed anyone yet, so by far she is still innocent, demon or not even a human can be a demon ''not in the literal sense but you get it'' what went down was basically Shinazugawa not accepting that Nezuko will remain the way she is, the irrational roundabout way on his solution is.. he put Nezuko in a spot where it wouldnt surprise anyone if he gets attacked which was dumb af, you know normally anyone would fight back if someone stabs you not just once but multiple times right. Their past doesnt change the fact that they treated a member of their demon slaying corps and an innocent demon unjustly and torture despite their positions of being their top slayers. I never said what he did was justified. I said it explains why he acts the way he does, there is a difference between knowing and understanding why a person acts the way that they do and defending them, trying to prove why their actions were justified. I agree what he did was over-the-top but a lot of things in this show are exaggerated for dramatic effect. |
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Bibimbapski said: -Stray said: I've read it, and it still doesnt justify what he's done to Nezuko since it already came from their boss that Nezuko has not killed anyone yet, so by far she is still innocent, demon or not even a human can be a demon ''not in the literal sense but you get it'' what went down was basically Shinazugawa not accepting that Nezuko will remain the way she is, the irrational roundabout way on his solution is.. he put Nezuko in a spot where it wouldnt surprise anyone if he gets attacked which was dumb af, you know normally anyone would fight back if someone stabs you not just once but multiple times right. Their past doesnt change the fact that they treated a member of their demon slaying corps and an innocent demon unjustly and torture despite their positions of being their top slayers. I never said what he did was justified. I said it explains why he acts the way he does, there is a difference between knowing and understanding why a person acts the way that they do and defending them, trying to prove why their actions were justified. I agree what he did was over-the-top but a lot of things in this show are exaggerated for dramatic effect. Oh, from the sound of your first comment it looked like you were trying to say when we see his backstory we'll understand that what he did was right or he wasnt wrong for what he did or something. My bad. |
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Mattinator95 said: well looks like the anime adaption is working the manga total print has reached past 10 million copies. it reached 6 million ( digital and Physical ) Copies in May 19 one month after the anime started airing, and has sold 4 million copys in 4 months there are a total of 16 volumes out atm That's great. Hopefully it will mean that the series will get a second season soon. |
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| Why they continue to add annoying characters like the pink haired girl!? I can't appreciate the characters of this series, I've to give up ahahaha. Nothing interesting in this episode and I'm sure of what will happen in the next, nothin difficult to predict obviously. |
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