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Aug 30, 4:12 PM

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We all have different standards on what we value and what our preferences are. For instance OP, our affinity is negative. It's quite clear we view anime very differently, and there's nothing wrong with that. The vast majority of people love Dr. Stone, so it might seem strange to you that a select few dislike it. Just keep in mind everyone thinks and seeks something different and have varying levels of experience.

I quite dislike the show myself honestly. I understand it. I just don't find the story that interesting or compelling. It's a neat premise, but it's immature execution doesn't appeal to me at all. All the characters are one-dimensional and trite. The comedy is very poorly done and very prevalent. I don't think its use of science is that original. The art style and designs are rather ugly to me, and the animation is mediocre. Even though I don't find much value or enjoyment in the show, I'd at least give a rating of no higher than 3 based on production and technical aspects.

I find it funny that lots of people are simply writing the review off as a troll. Giving Dr. Stone a straight up 1 is really questionable and pushing it, but the review itself is quite solid in my eyes. He justifies his distastes and shortcomings of the show, and I agree with most of them. I'm not gonna shift through every one of Karhu's reviews to see if he's truly legitimate. Besides, I think the outrage comes mainly from his score than the overall wording of the review.
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Aug 30, 5:04 PM

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Not a 1, but the reviews are not unjustified as the writing is suspect and there are a lot of stupid things about it. It has gotten better with the current arc and thank god Tenku and Yuzuriha are out of the picture. Such shitty characters, new cast is way more likeable
6 and 7 are good scores
 
Aug 30, 5:42 PM

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This is the worst phase MAL has ever been. Ever since these wannabe Polyphemus like Karhu & Cringeyman started spamming all seasonals with 1/10 rating reviews just for sake of attention. I feel like the site will never be same

Yep.

Reviews mods have gotten to them before but seemed to have given up at this point. They just throw up their hands say "well he didn't type the N word, must be ok".
 
Aug 31, 1:32 AM
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go on karhus profile and read his explanation about the rating system in combination to dr. stone.
You will see he is not a troll.

I dont understand why so many of you have a problem about the rating of 1. Read the god damn review, in the most points he is right about dr. stone.

Or read for example karhus critics about liz and the blue bird or maquia. you will als see here that he is not a troll.
 
Aug 31, 7:32 AM
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Reviews are often a mixed bag of explosive diarrhoea. Look at the score, that seems about right.
 
Aug 31, 7:34 AM
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Not a 1, but the reviews are not unjustified as the writing is suspect and there are a lot of stupid things about it. It has gotten better with the current arc and thank god Tenku and Yuzuriha are out of the picture. Such shitty characters, new cast is way more likeable


The writing is fucking amazing.
 
Aug 31, 8:08 AM

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go on karhus profile and read his explanation about the rating system in combination to dr. stone.
You will see he is not a troll.

I dont understand why so many of you have a problem about the rating of 1. Read the god damn review, in the most points he is right about dr. stone.

Or read for example karhus critics about liz and the blue bird or maquia. you will als see here that he is not a troll.
Yeah I don't think he's a troll at all and most of what he said in his review of Dr.Stone was true and it fell like that's genuinely how he feels about the show. I like most of his reviews even tho he shits on some shows that I love every now and then but hey, everyone's got their opinions.
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KingLeonard23 said:
Not a 1, but the reviews are not unjustified as the writing is suspect and there are a lot of stupid things about it. It has gotten better with the current arc and thank god Tenku and Yuzuriha are out of the picture. Such shitty characters, new cast is way more likeable


The writing is fucking amazing.
Not really fam but if u like it, all the power to you
6 and 7 are good scores
 
Aug 31, 9:59 AM

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In don't think he's a troll. He's just too harsh in giving scores to anime he don't like. (Gintama for example)
 
Aug 31, 3:17 PM

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Someone else's opinion shouldn't affect yours.
If it's not hentai it's bad.
 
Aug 31, 3:36 PM

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The show really is that terrible. I can only understand enjoying this if you're 12 years old or under.


Again, it's your opinion. It's a shounen. What do you expect? If you don't like the show, then drop it.
 
Aug 31, 6:02 PM

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Dr. Stone is terrible, like 80% of the other shounen jump series. It is normal to have some reviews with the right score (Karthu is a troll, but he is lucid in some reviews). This show is popular for the same reason that isekai is popular,because both genres have a high fan base, and quantity is not always proportional to quality.
 
Aug 31, 6:17 PM

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Why are these random no post accounts coming to defend the review?

If you people genuinely believe that there isn't trolling going on and he is just this misunderstood reviewer that is just very critical you are rather naive. Go read his Fairy Tail and Goblin Slayer reviews if you had any doubts. I'm sure he's enjoying this attention now that this has been brought up.
 
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*clicks link*

Hahaha he's one of those 5/10 = average people.

No matter how you think the system should work, if you're running off a different system than everyone else in the world, that's only going to confuse people. 7/10 is the average, 5/10 is a failing grade, this is what our schools teach us and this is how the internet works. It sucks, because it limits the shades of "good", but when discussing reviews it's better to have the same scale everyone else does to reduce understanding.

Once upon a time I was a 5/10 = average person, but thankfully I left that phase behind.
 
Sep 1, 1:14 AM

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People hate on popular shows, hell, even AOT series has those Elitist Jerks who thinks their opinion is better than everyone else. EG: "1/10 bEcAusE, juSt beCuase"

And don't forget that you're on MAL, this site is full of those people. It's nothing new here.
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Sep 1, 4:27 AM

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heg said:
TheChaika said:

At least he ain't bulling people on their profiles for liking a music in a show ... like TAS did with one girl.


im not sure, normally controversial users attract toxicity and they will fight back or become toxic themselves hence my comparison with him to TAS but we will see in the long run
I think Karhu has been here for a long time.
Should I troll in the troll bait threads? It is kinda idiotic to be logical in the troll bait threads. Well, it will depend on my mood.
 
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A lot of reviews here have similarities with Amazon reviews. They are dodgy, unhelpful and often plain wrong. Don't read reviews. Trust your own judgement. I cannot say whether they are justified or not since I just watched the second episode, which was okay. The show is not as smart as it wants us to believe it is but so far it has been moderately fun (mostly the Robinson Crusoe kind of fun)

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Sep 1, 11:28 AM
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Everyone is allowed to their own opinion, everyone finds their own value or lack thereof in everything.
Life would be horridly bland otherwise.

But from what I've seen from Karhu across other series' I've watched in the past, he seems to be contrarian for contrarian's sake, and riding the wave of fame on controversial opinions.
There may often be a thread of truth in even the most negative of critique, but the way his vitriolic drivel's been written with a barrage of derogatory and smug arrogance, I will say there's none to be gained from his.
 
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Relax. The people who don't understand science can only grow more to hate it. "How can a fire be blue, how he made a generator?" Their brains can't handle scientific things. I'm 100 billion percent sure.
 
Sep 2, 1:05 AM
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I went into this thread thinking this would be a discussion about the critique, strengths/weaknesses of the show etc., but it's like focused on one review by one guy. I see very little discussion about the actual content and more focus on the specific score and the guy who wrote it. If anything though, reviews shouldn't be allowed until a show has finished airing and there's no reason to care about reviews written before that.

I ended up dropping Dr. Stone, I guess I had too high/different expectations from what it ended up being. I feel like there's a common recurrence of shows being announced, there's a fair amount of posts/comments on different forums about how it will be amazing and the GOAT, then the show fails to deliver on that and it turns out to be on par with a lot of other shows.
 
Sep 7, 3:13 AM
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It is certainly a bad show, without a doubt. However, I do agree that 1 is too much. A 3 or 4 would be closer to the true quality of the show.
 
Sep 7, 3:15 AM
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Pyro said:
We all have different standards on what we value and what our preferences are. For instance OP, our affinity is negative. It's quite clear we view anime very differently, and there's nothing wrong with that. The vast majority of people love Dr. Stone, so it might seem strange to you that a select few dislike it. Just keep in mind everyone thinks and seeks something different and have varying levels of experience.

I quite dislike the show myself honestly. I understand it. I just don't find the story that interesting or compelling. It's a neat premise, but it's immature execution doesn't appeal to me at all. All the characters are one-dimensional and trite. The comedy is very poorly done and very prevalent. I don't think its use of science is that original. The art style and designs are rather ugly to me, and the animation is mediocre. Even though I don't find much value or enjoyment in the show, I'd at least give a rating of no higher than 3 based on production and technical aspects.

I find it funny that lots of people are simply writing the review off as a troll. Giving Dr. Stone a straight up 1 is really questionable and pushing it, but the review itself is quite solid in my eyes. He justifies his distastes and shortcomings of the show, and I agree with most of them. I'm not gonna shift through every one of Karhu's reviews to see if he's truly legitimate. Besides, I think the outrage comes mainly from his score than the overall wording of the review.


100% agree. I feel exactly the same as you on this one.
 
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most of the reviews i have seen , or comments ponder and expect if it was a seinen it would be different, like being a seinen automatically makes a series "Serious'

https://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/42/Seinen

theres alot of shows in that list that are not serious at all
 
Sep 7, 6:22 AM

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Karhu brings up some points that I agree with.
Despite this, I find the show to be relatively decent. I can enjoy some aspects.
Unlike its shitty Shonen neighbor this season...
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Sep 7, 7:53 AM
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As someone who has read the manga, I wouldn't say it is totally 'unjustified' the first arc of the manga (and anime) is pretty bad in comparison to the rest of the series. Infact, when the manga first came out it was met with pretty similar reviews up until the second arc when things actually started to pan out. Do i think it deserves a 1? Hell no! But do I understand the harsh criticism up until the point in which the dude watched? Yeah i do.
 
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That guy is a retard

 
Sep 8, 1:34 PM

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most of the reviews i have seen , or comments ponder and expect if it was a seinen it would be different, like being a seinen automatically makes a series "Serious'

https://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/42/Seinen

theres alot of shows in that list that are not serious at all

Because first anime that comes to their mind when they see/hear seinen is Berserk.
 
Sep 8, 3:51 PM
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The show, especially this first arc, is quite alright in my opinion, nothing special. Everything in it is a bit too convenient. And really the last thing it needs is the Rick and Morty crowd 'BuT iT's So SmArT', no, it's not.

The show isn't absolute garbage to be rated a 1, but I could see people easily rating it 5 or lower.
 
Sep 8, 8:55 PM

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Some reviewers, throw 1's at every single anime and then you'll check to see their reviewed animes list and there's be some
random old harem anime like School Days rated a 10. Everyone has different preferences so it's to be expected.

 
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No one is questioning 8-9/10 ratings, so I'm not going to question 3-2-1/10 ratings.

Also 5 is average, not bad and its not harsh. Deal with it.
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The show, especially this first arc, is quite alright in my opinion, nothing special. Everything in it is a bit too convenient. And really the last thing it needs is the Rick and Morty crowd 'BuT iT's So SmArT', no, it's not.

The show isn't absolute garbage to be rated a 1, but I could see people easily rating it 5 or lower.
the second arc is much better though.
 
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You should see how bad Rotten Tomato critics are
It's fine if you say no chromo afterwards
 
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You should see how bad Rotten Tomato critics are



funny because its true , especially the Joker reviews
 
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_cjessop18_ said:
You should see how bad Rotten Tomato critics are



funny because its true , especially the Joker reviews

And the Sticks and Stones comedy special by Dave Chapelle

23% score from 13 RT critics vs 99% score from 30k+ user ratings
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_cjessop18_ said:
Mattinator95 said:



funny because its true , especially the Joker reviews

And the Sticks and Stones comedy special by Dave Chapelle

23% score from 13 RT critics vs 99% score from 30k+ user ratings



snowflakes lol its stand up comedy i sore a clip where he talks about MJ and was like yep this is going to offend people haven't watched it fully yet
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Sep 9, 4:33 PM

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The 8.22 is really underrated in my opinion, I would expect 8.6+. It's high quality all round.
 
Sep 10, 4:26 AM

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Personally, I agree with the review at least, with most of his arguments. Even tho I belive that DR.Stone is a big 7/10 imo.
 
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This thread shows the inability of a lot of people to use the scoring system properly. If you have a range from 1 to 10, you should use that range and not use 5 as your worst rating. But most of the people don't do this, with the result, that the actual rating here on MAL goes from 5 to 10. Even the worst animes I've ever seen have at least a rating of 6. Just ridicoulus.

Personally I only rate 1 and 10 for shows that I really love or to remind me that I never ever rewatch that piece of shit.
 
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Imagine going to MAL for reviews. That's almost as bad as getting your opinions from anime youtubers.
 
Sep 23, 6:52 AM

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The anime surely isn't bad, I think, but jeez, everything in it annoys me so much, I really don't feel like I want to continue.

In general, it's unfair to write reviews after a few episodes. I read a Carole & Tuesday review "watched 6 episodes... these characters don't get any development." Dude, you have seen 1/4 of the series?
And I surely won't take MAL, or any, reviews too serious.
 
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I just have finished watching the 8th episode of the anime and came here right away. I was seriously shocked to see the first review giving the anime 1, whilst I think that I can give the show 11 without even thinking.

Does people not understand the charm of the main character, and how awesome the concept and approach were in mixing Science (mainly chemistry) into the anime? Or it is just that they don't understand it, or hate school matters or whatever.

I hope people reconsider their reviews and at least finish half of the show before judging it badly.


Helpful reviews need to be marked as "helpful"

Mod edit: removed bait

Everyone who reviews a popular show under 4 on MAL are absolute useless human being...not because a popular show can't be under 4 but because they are probably the dumbest people on earth...so don't take it seriously they just have no life and no point and you find them for EVERY popular show
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dont read the reviews on MAL, they are mostly unhelpful. if you want to know if the anime is good, try to judge it from the 1st ep or go to youtube( they seem to be more fair there)

 
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It's bad but it's not 1 bad. It doesn't necessarily deserve all the really high ratings either imo.


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Mullerio_ said:


BlakexEkalb said:


Mostly because the average score is closer to 10 and not 1. If average MAL scores were around 4 and someone scored it a 1 it would not cause a big deal, but if it were scored a 10 it would be barraged with hate. That and a 1 is either a biased score or a BS score since the only shows that deserve a 1 have to be purposefully trying to make complete trash.


Yea many people use the rating system the "wrong" way or at least not the way its supposed to be, a 5 should be average so a "decent" show but there are so many people thinking a 5 is a bad score and that is simply not true.

But i disagree a show can be a 1 if its just a very very bad show that i also did not enjoy, 1 is basicially a 9 just the other way around, so i think its a score that should be given to shows that are simply extremely bad, similar to a 9 wich is for the extremely good ones (10 is for the really special ones with a equivalent of a 0 wich does not exist on MAL).
Some 1 shows maybe have some monior decent points but they cant outweigh the bad ones, similar to a 9 wich has some flaws but they get outweigh by the positives.


And that's the problem with mal's ratings system. You can give a show a 7/10 which is a "good" show according to mal, and likewise a 9/10 as a "great" show. This is already unrealistic, shouldn't a 9/10 be at least amazing, not just great? This is probably why mal's scores are usually much higher than other sites.
 
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A lot of reviews here have similarities with Amazon reviews. They are dodgy, unhelpful and often plain wrong. Don't read reviews. Trust your own judgement. I cannot say whether they are justified or not since I just watched the second episode, which was okay. The show is not as smart as it wants us to believe it is but so far it has been moderately fun (mostly the Robinson Crusoe kind of fun)


If I may, I would say that reviews are useful in at least one specific case: when the average is low but some good reviews are placed in the top reviews, then one might actually choose to watch the show. Subete ga F ni naru is a good example of this phenomenon (and this is likely that other "non-standard" anime suffer the same fate), and since I use this criterion from time to time, I assume that it might be the case of other people.
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On MAL, you have to take scores at a median because you’re going to either have a hand full of trolls that put out bogus reviews to fire people like you up, or have elitist snobs who think their “taste” is so refined that they’ll give crappy scores because an anime doesn’t meet their unrealistic standards.

Or to put it bluntly, don’t get bent out of shape at every 1 score and don’t believe in all the 10 scores either because your true answer is somewhere in-between (and in my honest opinion, Dr. Stone is far closer to a 10 than a 1...I’d probably rate it an 8 at this point).
 
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Vary few shows, if any, deserve 1's. On a 5 star scale, that's a half a star. A 1 star show has 0 redeemable qualities, offers no entertainment and any form of value whatsoever. People that give shows 1 stars are absolute clowns.
 
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Nov 7, 12:54 PM

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I mean, everyone's rating system is their own, so a lot of the time you just have to accept the difference in opinions.

This guy isn't serious though. Don't pay his review too much mind.
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I think that your taking reviews and scores too seriously.
I enjoy reading Karhu reviews they are always entertaining lol.


I just read it. It was not entertaining and barely had any actual connection to the anime it was reviewing. He goes on about penis jokes, virginity and shit like that......which hasn't happened as far as I am concerned.

Most of the review was just waffle, pretty much an irrelevant filler of a review.
 
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Like I care what other people think, plenty of stuff out there that’s highly rated that I think’s utter tat. Just go with what you feel and don’t glamorise people who agree with you as you’re just alienating people that disagree and just look like a loser tbh.
 
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