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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Cool, it seems Carole and Tueday has a date to preform at an upcoming festival. Interestingly enough, we also got Tuesday taking a more liking to Kyle and also wants to confront her mother. I actually find Tuesday and Kyle's relationship rather interesting as it shows her character growing up more. |
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| Mamo's character vs. HiroC's character over the song, and ex-child actress not sung yet. Kakki's character hurt from car accident. Businessman friend of the producer gave them some chance. Tuesday decided to talk to that Suwabe-san reporter, to face her mother by asking what he knows. That reporter lost hearing on his right ear. It seems like he's one of the duo's fan, because he mentioned that he initially was interested in politician mother's scandal, but changed to the duo's activity. That stalker furious about ex-child actress afraid of him. They don't know he sees them from the camera in their car? Explosion, and the reporter helped calming Tuesday before helping others. The politician seems to want HiroC's character's help after that incident. Tuesday caught in that effect (forgot how it was called, "Tsuribashi gouka" in Japanese) and fell in love with him, and broken-hearted when she saw he's with another lady. New song when she walks and met Carole who finds her. 25:15 for ep.19 https://twitter.com/carole_tuesday/status/1166683661837561856 |
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| Some decent directing at the end, but plotwise it was a pretty weak episode. Just didn't feel Tuesdays crush on Kyle and the political sub-plot is hella corny. |
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| An episode far from the musical stuff we got used to (except the quick shot we had in the studio + the announce that they were gonna perform at a festival). Nah, I ain't a great fan of this political stuff, really. And the ending with a sad Tuesday... not really giving me any sort of vibe, I could hardly care less lol The only interesting part I found was the stalker following Angela, I hope he'll show up one day |
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| Heartbreak songs aare incoming now I guess. When admiration turned to love, Tuesday lost it all in single moment. On the otherhand Angela is having a hard time with her stalking fan. That obsession is really something to be feared. Also it seems that Tao is gonna be the nest big pawn on the political chessboard. |
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| Just when I thght that the romance tag in the anime might be because of Carole and Kyle lol this happens, so it's yuri after all . Also damn I hope Angela gets rid of the stalker asap. |
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| I had thought Carole saw Kyle as a father figure, didn't expect her to have a crush on him. Where's is this going lol Tao and Ertegun are fun to watch, need more of them. |
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| that escalated so quickly I couldn't process what was going on... TUE AND KYLE?!?!? well... it was cute until... the end of the episode... The Stalker is really scary time to time, and he also a hacker... which is double the scare! overall pretty good episode |
| Sometimes, it's really hard to tell what exactly this anime is trying to be. Feels like it's trying to be a lot of different genres at once, and nothing is going well together. |
| Did we really need this kind of romantic development? So unnecessary lol |
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| I think they forced the crush on Kyle a bit much, but I still feel really bad for Tuesday nonetheless. On the other hand I hope we find out who this creepy ass stalker is soon, he's definitely bad news. |
| It's not that surprising that Tuesday developed a crush on Kyle, she gives off an impression of this sheltered lonely girl who never knew love, so of course, she'll be romantically confused with the first relatively good-looking guy who gives her special attention. I think they'll just use this as another inspiration for new beatiful sad songs. The overall plot of the show is somehow unclear even now even if it's already nearing the end. Not that I'm complaining, I enjoy mostly every episode but it seems a bit jumbled and barely connected with its pieces. I hope it'll all come together in the end. |
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| Don't understand the complaining about Tuesday's crush on Kyle, it's portrayed exactly as it can happen. Suddenly start to notice the person, trying to go out of their way to meet him/her, feel happy because you're going out to meet that person, checking yourself in a random mirror/window and then it can all come crashing down. I don't think it was meant to have an impact, it was meant to add to Tuesday's character. Getting to see Carole and Tuesday in different situations and scenarios is what builds up their characters. |
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| I'm starting to get really disappointed with the show now. It's done nothing to really advance the relationship (friendship) between the titular characters apart from how we've known then from episode 2. The so called "romantic" elements of the show just feel so out of place, even if they were to bring Carole and Tuesday together now it was just be tacked on since they haven't actually had any development together. The whole situation with the hacker has nothing to do with anything since Angela (although definitely interesting at first) has no plot relevancy. I bet they will just drop it likes they've done with all the other side plots and characters. I couldn't care anymore than I care for the political drama that the second half of this show has become. The only reason why the political stuff is relevant is simply because of today's real world issues, but it's not something I want In a musical drama. The focus should be on the characters, which so far have been seriously lackluster. |
FireFistYK said: Don't understand the complaining about Tuesday's crush on Kyle, it's portrayed exactly as it can happen. Suddenly start to notice the person, trying to go out of their way to meet him/her, feel happy because you're going out to meet that person, checking yourself in a random mirror/window and then it can all come crashing down. I don't think it was meant to have an impact, it was meant to add to Tuesday's character. Getting to see Carole and Tuesday in different situations and scenarios is what builds up their characters. Yeah usually it would build up characters, sadly this did not. Not only does it fail to add anything to Tuesday, it also fails to develop anything new in the friendship between Tues and Carol. The whole romance element of the show just feels unnecessary now this far in, and btw the romance literally lasted half an episode in the space of 2 meetings....no this doesn't happen in real life. It was just forced sadly. Too many mixed pieces from episodes that have almost nothing to do with the shows plot and add very little in terms of character development or relevant themes. |
| Angela's stalker creepy as always the cheeky victim dude got what he deserved tho ngl.. Didn't like him from the moment he was introduced Politics being wicked as always. The explosion was probably caused by the dude that pulls Valerie's strings in the shadows too Just when I thought it's going to have some light romance it's instantly shut down too lol xd was that Kyle tho? Didn't recognize him from the back of his head there |
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| Angela's stalker is really getting more and more vicious and creepy. Not only is he eliminating any threats to his plan, but he can even listen to Angela's conversations as well, as was shown in the taxi ride home which left Angela shocked and worried. The bastard needs to be caught before Angela gets hurt. Jerry's influence over Valerie is like a puppet master controlling one of his puppets with his fingers. The fact that he was quick to influence Valerie to use the recent explosion at the weather factory as w way to blame an Anti-Mars movement is not only low, but it does kinda hint that he's partly responsible for the explosion in the first place. Only time will tell if my guess is right or not. As for Tuesday, I do feel sorry for her. She got along with Kyle, the freelance journalist, really well and she was able to open up and become more comfortable around him. Soon enough, she developed a crush on him, so seeing him kissing another woman must've felt like a dagger to her heart. The poor girls needs a hug. =( I think with this heartbreak in mind, I'm expecting some heartbreak-style songs coming from Carole & Tuesday in the next episode. Looking forward to it as always. =) |
| Eyyyy, bring Tao and Ertegun back on screen! Tue having a crush on Kyle was so awkward I have no idea how to react to it. The poor girl doesn't distinguish kindness from flirting. Now, if she writes a love song about being heart-broken because of him, I'll fling myself into the sun. Also, the political aspect of this series is pretty much tiring at this point. Then again, I wonder what that resume on the wall that appeared out of nowhere was supposed to mean. I must say that this piqued my interest. Besides, those shining umbrella shafts must have been a life-changing innovation at that time. Just why in the world would anyone come up with that, lol. |
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FMmatron said: Just didn't feel Tuesdays crush on Kyle and the political sub-plot is hella corny. So I wasn't the only one that felt like this came out of nowhere ? How come Tuesday suddenly has a crush on the reporter dude. It has absolutely no development behind it. So dumb. |
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| The Cydonia Festival is coming up again, and Ertegun is planning on making his comeback there with the help of Tao and Angela. I like how he doesn't feel like the AI is enough anymore. After having to write this new song by himself, he realized that there are some things that they can't convey I guess. And Carole and Tuesday were invited to play there too. This time the audience will be glad to see them standing proudly on the stage, and it's going to be glorious. Angela's stalker turned out to be someone with some hacking knowledge. Aaron could've died, and now he might go after Angela herself since he now knows that she isn't happy with his "protection" or whatever he believes he is doing. I hope she remains safe. That Jerry is really dangerous too, creating a problem that shouldn't exist to take advantage of it, and to stir up the masses. It's so low, and it seems he will try to drag Tao into this. Valerie really is losing any credibility she could've had too, which isn't really surprising. But I appreciate the view Tuesday shared about her, it humanized her a bit. Poor Tuesday though, I have been there. Getting interested in an older, kind and interesting guy, only to find out that he already has someone else and probably only sees you as a child or something. At least Carole was there for her, but I still kind of hope she will manage to hand him the notebook. |
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| Can Roddy get some love already? |
| This episode was fine, however the emotional impact that I feel like I was supposed to have was nonexistent. There are a lot of subplots being addressed in a very short time frame without enough substance. I genuinely hope the rest of the series deals specifically with these threads and does not add more in the process as it is unnecessary—just flesh out the existing narrative and the series will be gold. |
| Wait a second... Did she really got feelings for Kyle? Come on... What's next? She'll write break up songs and become like Adele? On other note, Angela's stalker is really on a higher level than Cybelle, I wonder how will that end. |
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| This episodes finally made me ask the question: how old are Carole and Tuesday? I assumed they were 17 ish but then wouldn't they be in school? I guess they're young adults? |
| Ertegun, armed with his new song...still can't get into a consensus with Tao's AI. Meanwhile the stalker situation with Angela gets even worse with Aaron's hospitalisation. Meanwhile, Tobe finally gave Carole and Tuesday the go-ahead after so many takes. And Hofner, the one who rejected them before, noticed and gave them another chance back to the Cydonia Festival. To Tuesday, meeting Kyle...was single-handedly the best thing...? Love is a foreign language to her, but through the affections and whatnot, even after the eventual discovery that Kyle has a girlfriend, this "drama" felt very flat on its toes. The political issue in Mars is also turning into a state of war, not that it mattered in the 1st place. But as I (and we) feared, if this was the sequence of events to come, it has already and will detriment this show's value in storytelling and plot confusion. Even as a means of a side-story, this episode is the weakest in terms of storyplot. |
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Inugirlz said: This episodes finally made me ask the question: how old are Carole and Tuesday? I assumed they were 17 ish but then wouldn't they be in school? I guess they're young adults? They're dropouts (at least Tuesday is) |
KANLen09 said: But as I (and we) feared, if this was the sequence of events to come, it has already and will detriment this show's value in storytelling and plot confusion. Where did you "fear" it would go? |
| With so many plot lines going on at the same time, was it really necessary to add one more regarding Tues suddenly falling in love with an older man? I know the show is also tagged as "Romance" but if this dumb crush is the best they can offer, then better not add any romance at all to this mix. It was handled in such lazy way I would have preferred them to give more insight into the other boring sub-plots this anime has, such as Valerie's campaign or Angela's stalker. Anyways, leaving aside the last scene with C&T under the snow which had a nice camera direction, this episode as a whole was probably the weakest one in the series in terms of storyline and character development. |
| Angela was with Ertegun and Tao when Dahlia arrived and informed her that Aaron suffered an accident, a hacked car ran over him, they visited him in the hospital. Carole & Tuesday were recording their album when Gus informed them that Höfner is looking for them. They went to visit Höfner and he offered them to perform at Cydonia Festival, they accepted. Tuesday had a meeting with Kyle, they talked about Kyle’s job and a man named Jerry Egan, an aggressive politic that is Valerie’s adviser, an explosion occurred in the weather plant and Kyle calmed Tuesday down and took her home. Angela was complaining with Dahlia about the hacker in a car when she received threatening messages from him. Valerie and Jerry talked specifically about Tao. Tuesday had another meeting with Kyle, now they talked about Tuesday and Valerie as a mother; Tuesday started to feel admiration for Kyle, so she bought him a notebook. One night, Tuesday went to see Kyle, but he was with a woman (probably his girlfriend), Tuesday felt heartbreaked, Carole found her walking in the city. Well, that’s a heartbreak, a couple songs could born from this. Kyle is just a man, what Tuesday was starting to feel was cute, admiration and love, but Kyle has a life, and no one knew he has a girlfriend. I thought that Aaron’s accident would add more drama, more than it did, something like in a coma, which makes the hacker much more dangerous. |
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el_morris said: Wait a second... Did she really got feelings for Kyle? Come on... What's next? She'll write break up songs and become like Adele? On other note, Angela's stalker is really on a higher level than Cybelle, I wonder how will that end. She could felt admiration and a kind of love (more illusions that anything), that's not weird and it happens, I think she'll write some songs about that feelings, you can compose from anything man. |
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| This went straight fast, but a pretty good episode. I liked the atmosphere (and thank God only a little Tobe, I hate that guy) |
| The episode (and the main plot itself) wasn't bad, but I think the characters' relation development was done super poorly -o- |
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| I'm not a big fan of Tuesday having a crush on Kyle, mainly because I'd imagine most of us (including me) were predicting that Kyle is gonna turn out to be Tuesday's dad, as much as I don't want that to happen either. Plus, I'd been rooting for CarolexTuesday this whole time. Please don't pull a Korra. Please don't pull a Korra. Please don't pull a Korra. As much I don't like that bit of the episode, I'll take it because it gave us the prettiest looking scene in this series so far, and they tied it into the larger plot because it's snowing for dramatic effect, but woh, it's only snowing because Tuesday's mom's crazy dude advisor blew up the weather plant oooooh. As a positive, I kinda like the way this show portrays Tuesday's trauma. It's not cripplingly over-dramatic but it's definitely there and definitely affecting her. As for Angela's story, her situation is getting a lot creepier too. I am wondering what they're gonna do with Tao though. Okay, here's my crazy-ass prediction for what's gonna happen next. Tuesday's mom and the nazi are gonna try and commission Tao and Angela to create a pop hit in support of her campaign, a propaganda film, if you will. However, Tao is gonna have to refuse because he's too busy dealing with Ertugen's shit and he thinks that would work out better for him, meaning Tuesday's mom is gonna have no counter to Kyle's article about her and she'll lose in a landslide. Ertugen's crazy antics will inadvertently save the world. It's probably not gonna happen exactly this way, but I think it'll be funny if it does. |
| Girl crush drama is something this show doesn't need...especially given how awkward and out of place it seems. Like C&T don't really need romance imo. But who the hell knows. So far...this second half is not as good as the first. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| That scene at the end when the girls were in the snow was really nice. All thanks to the weather plant getting broken. HaXXspetten said: Did we really need this kind of romantic development? So unnecessary lol Yeah it seems so random, like it was just shoe horned in. I assume it's so Tuesday can write a sad love song, but still. |
FMmatron said: This is a show is very unique as it is really good at show don't tell. Many people have pointed out a lot of actions from characters that speak louder than what is said. I brought Kyle and Tuesday thing because he has been overly nice to her and she has felt odd around him. He brings up how they still uses pens and notebooks and there goes your connection. And during that interview you see Tuesday blush at one point that shows you she is feeling more about Kyle than just some reporter hungry for a story(He really comes off like that when you first see him. Also as someone who loves news media and watches a lot of interviews I can pick up on habits and body language.). But yeah it makes sense. Now, I can see why you may find the political side boring. I have read your posts before in the past threads and always found them to be informative. I personally like it as we are finally seeing the effects of what it can have on people just trying to make music. We're gonna learn why music and politics has mix a lot throughout the years in episode 19. Some decent directing at the end, but plotwise it was a pretty weak episode. Just didn't feel Tuesdays crush on Kyle and the political sub-plot is hella corny. HaXXspetten said: With how long these two have been together, I don't think it is that bad of a thing. Also, it's good to see you Haxx. I will say they could brought this in early but that would have just been messy. Let's see what they do with this. Did we really need this kind of romantic development? So unnecessary lol Btw...this may be my favorite episode of the series. I like how everything is playing out and how some thing are being wrap up and how some may not be what we think and there is more to every character in this story. |
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| IMO Tuesdays crush on Kyle came outta nowhere, I just wish there was a bit more development than having a couple common interests, and showing a bit of decency when a disaster happens. Hopefully next week explains a bit more but oh well, that song that led to the closing was ear candy. |
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MasterHavik said: FMmatron said: This is a show is very unique as it is really good at show don't tell. Many people have pointed out a lot of actions from characters that speak louder than what is said. I brought Kyle and Tuesday thing because he has been overly nice to her and she has felt odd around him. He brings up how they still uses pens and notebooks and there goes your connection. And during that interview you see Tuesday blush at one point that shows you she is feeling more about Kyle than just some reporter hungry for a story(He really comes off like that when you first see him. Also as someone who loves news media and watches a lot of interviews I can pick up on habits and body language.). But yeah it makes sense. Now, I can see why you may find the political side boring. I have read your posts before in the past threads and always found them to be informative. I personally like it as we are finally seeing the effects of what it can have on people just trying to make music. We're gonna learn why music and politics has mix a lot throughout the years in episode 19.Some decent directing at the end, but plotwise it was a pretty weak episode. Just didn't feel Tuesdays crush on Kyle and the political sub-plot is hella corny. Adding some details isn't a guarrantor for good storytelling. It didn't take much to see why Tuesday would fall for that guy. However, it was far from impresssive and failed to deliver something new. If they wanted to add a romantic sub-plot, then they should've built it up with a slower pace from the beginning. And if the goal was to show that Carole is Tuesdays anchor, then it would've been more effective to see them support each other while fighting to make their dream come true. At least Tuesday had an opportunity to speak about her mom, so theres that. Also, I would appreciate if she still gets to thank Kyle properly. It would give her character a certain maturity and then the whole scenario served a purpose in retrospective, but I'm more or less optimistic that we will get to see that. |
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FMmatron said: I get what you're saying but I felt focusing on their careers was the right call because now they are at a point they can use their emotions to make songs. Arinna Grande can relate to this since her last year made make some amazing songs. MasterHavik said: This is a show is very unique as it is really good at show don't tell. Many people have pointed out a lot of actions from characters that speak louder than what is said. I brought Kyle and Tuesday thing because he has been overly nice to her and she has felt odd around him. He brings up how they still uses pens and notebooks and there goes your connection. And during that interview you see Tuesday blush at one point that shows you she is feeling more about Kyle than just some reporter hungry for a story(He really comes off like that when you first see him. Also as someone who loves news media and watches a lot of interviews I can pick up on habits and body language.). But yeah it makes sense. Now, I can see why you may find the political side boring. I have read your posts before in the past threads and always found them to be informative. I personally like it as we are finally seeing the effects of what it can have on people just trying to make music. We're gonna learn why music and politics has mix a lot throughout the years in episode 19. Adding some details isn't a guarrantor for good storytelling. It didn't take much to see why Tuesday would fall for that guy. However, it was far from impresssive and failed to deliver something new. If they wanted to add a romantic sub-plot, then they should've built it up with a slower pace from the beginning. And if the goal was to show that Carole is Tuesdays anchor, then it would've been more effective to see them support each other while fighting to make their dream come true. At least Tuesday had an opportunity to speak about her mom, so theres that. Also, I would appreciate if she still gets to thank Kyle properly. It would give her character a certain maturity and then the whole scenario served a purpose in retrospective, but I'm more or less optimistic that we will get to see that. |
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