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Nov 1, 2011 1:39 PM

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Amaya-no-Hime said:
Raven_Shinobi said:
I'd say Anthy is more creepy than boring. Her malicious sweetness and pretense of naivety make her come off as quite sadistic, as will be proven in the next episode.
Haha yeah, I realise that now, but it just makes me dislike her even more. Why did she have to be a main /sigh Oh well, I'm still watching so maybe she'll become more interesting/likeable later.

LOL! Sometimes I wonder who people hate more: Anthy or Nanami XD

I'm interested in hearing your views on Anthy by the end of the series, she's not one of my favorite characters, but she was interesting and creepy enough.
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Dec 21, 2011 11:29 PM

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The whole "operation make Anthy look like a weirdo" thing was funny the first time, but repeating it two times, was just...well it reminds me of when a friend tells a funny joke and then they tell it over and over again. It makes the joke unfunny quick. but anyway this series has been OK so far, I'm just waiting for the greatness of this series to come and from reading you guys posts I might be waiting a while?
Jan 21, 2012 3:31 AM

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i love Nanami so much!!! yeah but i agree the repeating joke was lame...
i hate Anthy at first but seeing her as this more normal person this episode, i think i didn't hate her as much as before
Feb 7, 2012 9:54 PM

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Repeating the joke wasn't necessary.
Apr 9, 2012 6:30 PM

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This episode was nice to watch after serious stuff has happened in the series. Predictable, but a good episode.
May 12, 2012 1:42 PM
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I actually found the repeating the joke thing multiple fines incredibly hilarious XDXD
This was definitely a great episode.
Jul 2, 2012 7:09 AM

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It's so similar to Mawaru Penguindrum. I love it.
Jul 24, 2012 7:36 PM
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I love the fact they repeated the joke, it was really fun to watch haha

holypoop said:
It's so similar to Mawaru Penguindrum. I love it.

You meant: Mawaru Penguindrum is so similar to Utena.
Aug 13, 2012 2:13 PM

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Why do they like picking on the Indian girl so much?
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Aug 24, 2012 12:49 AM

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Sapphire2g3 said:
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm getting tired of everyone slapping Himemiya around. It was a good episode though.

Same here. Poor girl just can't catch a break.
Overall, I liked the episode. Nanami's plans were funny, especially once they were foiled. Though, I feel like one of the few people who don't hate Anthy. :/

Also, am I the only one who was confused over Mickey's gender?
Jan 3, 2013 12:00 PM

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Kinryn said:
Sapphire2g3 said:
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm getting tired of everyone slapping Himemiya around. It was a good episode though.

Same here. Poor girl just can't catch a break.
Overall, I liked the episode. Nanami's plans were funny, especially once they were foiled. Though, I feel like one of the few people who don't hate Anthy. :/

Also, am I the only one who was confused over Mickey's gender?

Same, me too.
I actually enjoy Anthy. n wn
& I was totally confused about Mickey's
gender for like the past episodes, but I think Mickey
is a boy.
Feb 5, 2013 11:16 AM

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Nothing special, but funny nonetheless. The most normal episode yet.
Feb 6, 2013 11:07 PM

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I liked that we got to know a bit more about Miki. He's adorable :D
Apr 20, 2013 3:12 AM

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Anthy is on the fast road to becoming one of my most hated characters. Girls like her with no spine... ugh she seems incredibly annoying. It's gonna be annoying if she's the main focus of most episodes to come.
May 8, 2013 8:54 PM

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Can't see why people hate Anthy. We don't know anything about her now, so she's just a mysterious girl. She'll have her finest hour some time.

Yeah, the repeated joke thing did last a bit long, but I don't mind it as the result of the joke was funny all three times. That mongoose eating the snake was probably my favorite part of it.

So far so good. I like what I'm seeing so far.

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Jun 30, 2013 7:15 PM
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Sapphire2g3 said:
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm getting tired of everyone slapping Himemiya around. It was a good episode though.

yea, for real. that's been once per episode so far. knock it off, y'all

also, nanami seems to be a real jerkass

her little plots were kind of dumb and repetitive and predictable, too
Aug 3, 2013 4:42 PM

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Strangely enough, I actually found the repeated jokes with Nanami more funny this time. That may be because of how I've grown to like her character. About Anthy, I feel like she is actually a pretty great character in her own right. I find her more interesting now, on my second viewing, than I did the first time now that I know what the show does with her going forward.

For now, just pay attention to the Shadow Girls yet again. This isn't just important for the next episode, but for Anthy's character arc in general I feel.
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Sep 1, 2013 4:02 PM

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Poor Anthy, at least she has some friends now.
Jan 15, 2014 12:36 AM

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Well, that was alright.
I don't mind characters like Nanami.
The vocal audio in this anime always starts at low each time a characters speaks after a silence.
Feb 19, 2014 3:41 PM

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I've heard some pretty good and convincing male sounding kids voices from female voice actors but in the case of Miki Kaoru i'd say he just sounds completely female hell he even looks like a female with short hair when compared to the other males we have seen thus far. Until this episode I thought he was a female actually.
Dec 30, 2014 8:10 AM

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Darn that white haired bitch! How does she dare to frame her!

Well, he found his shining thing, so good for him I guess YATTA
Feb 11, 2015 2:23 PM

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I wonder if the snails' names (Juliet, Catherine, and Marcelina) have any significance. The name Juliet immediately caught my eye; it's a pretty obvious reference to the tragic Shakespearian character, so this might be telling us something about Anthy's character.

There are a lot of Catherines, both fictional and historical, so it'd be tough to know which one the snail is named after. There's Catherine Morland (protagonist of Northanger Abbey), who's known to be naive and innocent — somewhat similar to Anthy's personality, or at least what we've seen of her so far. Also, Catherine Morland likes to act out characters from the novels she's read, which could be likened to the theatrical presentation of Revolutionary Girl Utena.

There's also Catherine of Aragon, one of the many wives of Henry VIII. From what I know, she was forced to leave the court (because Henry had found another wife) and lived alone in a castle for the rest of her life. I'm not saying that this will actually happen to Anthy, but I guess Henry's treatment of Catherine could be compared to Saoinji's treatment of Anthy. This might be a bit of a stretch though.

I don't know any Marcelinas and am too lazy to do the research, so I'm not sure about that one. I might be over-analyzing this anyway.
Mar 30, 2015 6:03 PM

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I lawled at the snails XD
fucking giant octopus decent episode
Jun 5, 2015 3:02 PM

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The humor in this episode worked well. It seems strange how what I assume is the main plot about the duels has been disrupted so early on for the ball and the study session but I'm thinking Miki is gonna challenge Utena soon since he feels so connected with Himemiya, and hopefully that'll add emotion to the duel, since the first one wasn't fun to watch or anything action-wise and the dude was a total scrub. Himemiya kinda sucks as a character that's supposedly alluring to multiple people. All the slapping's giving me Gundam flashbacks. Miki's the best. Blonde bitch was funny in this episode but probably nothing to do with her actual character. The stalker girl in penguindrum might have been kind of modeled after her. The humor at least works in a similar way. There's some intrigue going on with Anthy knowing Mickey's song. I hope the show stays at this level or gets better so I can at least kind of like it.
Nov 22, 2015 11:29 PM
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Utena's revolution feels more like evolution to me, lol.
Feb 13, 2016 7:47 PM

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I could had sworn that Miki was a girl o_0

The humor is the series is great!
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Feb 25, 2016 7:18 PM
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Look when you're trying to plant a snail in someone's pencil case to ruin their reputation, you should just go home. When they turn out to already have multiple snails in there, just give up. The universe hates you.
Jun 16, 2016 3:03 PM

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amayadori said:
Anthy is so boring. She's easily the worst thing about this show right now.

But she has magic sword hidden in her body, literally hidden inside her.

I gots to know how the hell that happened.

Oh yeah...see one episode when she doesn't get slapped.
Sep 7, 2016 7:24 AM

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Nanami is right. Anthy is a weirdo lol
Nov 15, 2016 1:20 PM

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Ugh, shoujo ai archetypes. Nanami a bitch, I get it, no need to show it three times per episode.
Jan 12, 2017 5:14 AM
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Tien said:

I might be over-analyzing this anyway.

It's literally impossible to over-analyze Utena XD
May 27, 2017 2:10 AM

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The triple repetition of the joke was so-so, but it was a decent episode overall.

Anthy's lack of free will is concerning since she otherwise appears to be a normal person. I wonder if that will be important going forward.
Jun 13, 2017 11:37 AM

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Took four episodes but the Ojou-sama laugh has arrived!
Aug 7, 2017 12:46 PM

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Why's Nanami so upset that Miki has a crush on Anthy? Doesn't she want to bang her brother?

Regardless, seeing her failed "operations" at proving Anthy is a weirdo was pretty funny. Anthy is plenty good at embracing her own weirdness, and Utena and Miki are nice enough to accept her for it.

Uh that Miki has figured out Anthy is his "shining thing", I think what he said earlier about not fighting Utena for Anthy is null and void.
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Jan 1, 2018 11:11 AM

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bdsbff said:
Took four episodes but the Ojou-sama laugh has arrived!

LOL i came here to write this skjajdsajdad, i love this laugh.

5th slap so far...let's see if this keeps up.
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Mar 25, 2018 11:59 AM

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Lol,liked it how Nanamis plans failed.
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Apr 23, 2018 9:55 PM

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I must admit it, this anime also works well with humour
Nov 29, 2018 4:25 AM

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The funniest thing about this ep was Anthy getting slapped yet again :x
May 6, 2:55 PM

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Does anyone else think that the arena (which shows up in the opening before falling apart) looks like a rose with spikes? I'm either imagining things or literally everything in this anime is a rose.

Also, Miki seems like a nice and cute guy! So cute actually that his seiyu is a woman

The piano soundtrack was very beautiuful and established the mood well. I loved it, as well as some comic relief with Nanami. Unlike most of the people in this thread, I wasn't bothered with the repetitive joke, I enjoyed it quite a lot, to be honest. It was just satisfying to watch Nanami getting wrecked all the time.

Finally, it's the first episode without the mysterious talk at the student council about the revolution and the end of the world, as well as without the shadow princesses. It's also quite interesting that the ending and the beginning were basically swapped. Side note: I really loved that Miki's sword is a realistic one (it's a 17th century Spanish rapier with cup hilt)
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