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Aug 19, 7:21 AM

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Consider this for example:-

Re:Zero VR app lets you get a lap pillow from Emilia or Rem and even spend time with them.


Now you may wonder who will even buy this?
I sure will! But apart from me:-
>people who've been NTR'ed by their real life bf/gf and thus have lost faith in humanity
>people who got "Tomodachi desu" as a reply from their crush when they proposed to him/her
>people who are desperate, perhaps?
>And most importantly, people who admire and love their 2D waifu/husbando with passion

I am sure this is just the start. Soon, we'll have other anime girls and boys too.
So the question arises, what will be your choice? Stick to 3D women/men or finally embrace your 2D waifu/husbando in the 3D realm?
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Aug 19, 7:31 AM

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Nah, that sounds weird, plus I'm already in a committed relationship with my Tamagotchi.
 
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I don't have a social/romantic life to begin with, but VR is something that I welcome.

PSVR is a lot of fun, and this is only the beginning. By 2025, every young person will have a VR unit in their home, and I predict that depression and suicide rates will plummet, because people will be able to escape reality using VR, to go to their perfect fantasy world.

This will be beneficial to everyone.
 
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I am all for VR and think it will shape the future, but what you describe here sounds really weird.
 
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I don't date and I don't care for VR. TVs and monitors have better colors and require lower resolutions, since the pixels aren't right in front of your eyes, meaning the games are less demanding. My brother's Oculus Rift still looks pixelated, despite having such a high resolution. I prefer third person over first person view anyway. VR is more for first person view. I'd rather sit down in front of a big TV or PC game with my head free or play my Switch while commuting or at work.
Seiya said:
I don't have a social/romantic life to begin with, but VR is something that I welcome.

PSVR is a lot of fun, and this is only the beginning. By 2025, every young person will have a VR unit in their home, and I predict that depression and suicide rates will plummet, because people will be able to escape reality using VR, to go to their perfect fantasy world.

This will be beneficial to everyone.
Seems like that would just raise suicide levels. I mean, Japanese NEETs are always trying to escape reality, and that country has a high suicide rate.


 
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I don't date and I don't care for VR. TVs and monitors have better colors and require lower resolutions, since the pixels aren't right in front of your eyes, meaning the games are less demanding. My brother's Oculus Rift still looks pixelated, despite having such a high resolution. I prefer third person over first person view anyway. VR is more for first person view. I'd rather sit down in front of a big TV or PC game with my head free or play my Switch while commuting or at work.
Seiya said:
I don't have a social/romantic life to begin with, but VR is something that I welcome.

PSVR is a lot of fun, and this is only the beginning. By 2025, every young person will have a VR unit in their home, and I predict that depression and suicide rates will plummet, because people will be able to escape reality using VR, to go to their perfect fantasy world.

This will be beneficial to everyone.
Seems like that would just raise suicide levels. I mean, Japanese NEETs are always trying to escape reality, and that country has a high suicide rate.


If you don't agree with me, then why bother quoting me?
 
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this is so confused me xD .. i cant choose two both of them, i dont really know what kind fetish that someone like
 
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Seiya said:
Ezekiel said:
I don't date and I don't care for VR. TVs and monitors have better colors and require lower resolutions, since the pixels aren't right in front of your eyes, meaning the games are less demanding. My brother's Oculus Rift still looks pixelated, despite having such a high resolution. I prefer third person over first person view anyway. VR is more for first person view. I'd rather sit down in front of a big TV or PC game with my head free or play my Switch while commuting or at work.
Seems like that would just raise suicide levels. I mean, Japanese NEETs are always trying to escape reality, and that country has a high suicide rate.


If you don't agree with me, then why bother quoting me?
Because I don't agree with you. Because you're saying something unfounded again.


 
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Ezekiel said:
Seiya said:


If you don't agree with me, then why bother quoting me?
Because I don't agree with you. Because you're saying something unfounded again.


No, I'm not.

You're just really pessimistic, and you can't prove me wrong, buddy.
 
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Seiya said:
Ezekiel said:
Because I don't agree with you. Because you're saying something unfounded again.


No, I'm not.

You're just really pessimistic, and you can't prove me wrong, buddy.
You can't prove yourself right, buddy.


 
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Seiya said:


No, I'm not.

You're just really pessimistic, and you can't prove me wrong, buddy.
You can't prove yourself right, buddy.


Actually, I can, because I'm Seiya, the most significant user here.

Everybody knows that everything I say must be 100% fact.
 
Aug 19, 8:10 AM
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Nah. 2D is 2D, 3D is 3D. They shouldn't intervene.
 
Aug 19, 8:26 AM

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Thank goodness I'm not into the whole idea of VR in the first place.
 
Aug 19, 8:43 AM

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vr is bullshit

sexdroids are where itsa at
 
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I think hugging a dakimakura is better than this.
 
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This is for weeaboo losers. This is made for me!
@swirlydragon You're what'ts best in this world, not even a Remtrash. Wants to worship Queen Emilia.
@seiya As would say Pewdiepie, you spit facts.
@kuroudoakabane I take it you are a great person. Maybe remember that one Saints Row bot...?
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I think I would need some kind of drugs to make me forget it's not real

What would be interesting is if there was an augmented reality that made someone you're with appear as an anime character. which would ad touch making it more real as you perceive it. Of course this would not be a replacement in this application but just a new way to roleplay.
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Lolsebca said:

@kuroudoakabane I take it you are a great person. Maybe remember that one Saints Row bot...?
I havent watched saints row ? is it evn anime?>
 
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@swirlydragon You're what'ts best in this world, not even a Remtrash. Wants to worship Queen Emilia.


As always, you've got great taste ;)



Emilia-tan is a goddess!

Join Emilia's self-proclaimed knights club if you are a fellow Emilia fan ;)
 
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No, physical intimacy is one of the most important things for me and I can't get it through VR.

But let's look it on the bright side. For every young man who chooses VR over the real world a woman is left without a potential boyfriend/husband. In just a few years, there will be millions if not billions of free and thirsty women and just a handful of good men/women who can satisfy their needs. People will be able to literally choose between a wide variety of female partners. Polygamy may also become a thing as girls who are looking for a relationship may have no other choice but to share their partner with the fierce competition.

The gene pool will also correct itself as the weak will succumb to VR and only the strongest will be left to pass their genes. It might be what mankind needs to reach the next level of its evolution and it doesn't require violence of some great sacrifice as the people who voluntarily trapped themselves in those virtual realities will also probably find a way to enjoy themselves.
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The gene pool will also correct itself as the weak will succumb to VR and only the strongest will be left to pass their genes. It might be what mankind needs to reach the next level of its evolution.


This sounds like some weird Aryan shit here.

Are you okay?
 
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Seiya said:
149597871 said:
The gene pool will also correct itself as the weak will succumb to VR and only the strongest will be left to pass their genes. It might be what mankind needs to reach the next level of its evolution.


This sounds like some weird Aryan shit here.

Are you okay?


Not really, it isn't genocide, people will be free to choose and those who enjoy VR can still have a meaningful life (from a certain point of view) and have fun in their new world. As you said it will be beneficial for both sides.

It is still a natural selection but far less cruel than its other forms.
 
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If its something like sao then hell yeah. I could be in a relationship in some fantasy world.
The way you're describing it, then probably not.
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I can imagine it alleviating my loneliness a little bit, but for the better or worse, real people are still way more interesting than fictional characters to me.

swirlydragon said:
>people who got "Tomodachi desu" as a reply from their crush when they proposed to him/her
lol, I would give everything except my soul to get this reply instead of a "Teki desu" ()
 
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Noboru said:
I can imagine it alleviating my loneliness a little bit, but for the better or worse, real people are still way more interesting than fictional characters to me.

swirlydragon said:
>people who got "Tomodachi desu" as a reply from their crush when they proposed to him/her
lol, I would give everything except my soul to get this reply instead of a "Teki desu" ()


It's kinda ironic that in Dragonian, Teki means "It is," and in Japanese, Desu means "is."

It is is. :P
 
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I hope so. I am lonely and don't have any friends.
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Awesome! That means more real world women for me.

 
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I don't even like 3D graphics in games, let alone VR.
 
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I don’t think it can replace the chemistry between two biological creatures. I’m not even talking about two humans. I doubt one can love a fictional dog more than a real one.
One can escape and indulge in VR but It will never substitute reality for a person who experienced it.

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If its something like sao then hell yeah. I could be in a relationship in some fantasy world.
The way you're describing it, then probably not.

But would you not want to meet your in-game partner irl?
 
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Seiya said:
It's kinda ironic that in Dragonian, Teki means "It is," and in Japanese, Desu means "is."
lol; Dragonian wasn't on my mind xD

mascarpone said:
Awesome! That means more real world women for me.
Not if they go for their respective Husbando, instead

EndlessMaria said:
I hope so. I am lonely and don't have any friends.
Welcome to the club, person who seems to be very close in age to me. I've only stumbled upon another user with a slightly closer date of birth, though.
 
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Welcome to the club, person who seems to be very close in age to me. I've only stumbled upon another user with a slightly closer date of birth, though.

Hello! There are a few of us around, though it seems this website is filled with people who are about 10 years younger than us. We are a dying breed.
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Zvera said:


Theoderic said:
If its something like sao then hell yeah. I could be in a relationship in some fantasy world.
The way you're describing it, then probably not.

But would you not want to meet your in-game partner irl?


Okay, but why not in a video game? The setting would be far more interesting imo.
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Yes, it is the future. I am going to sound like a weaboo loser in this post (which I am, but that's besides the point), but it is very clearly the way forward.

VR right now obviously cannot replace real human relationships. However, in the future, VR/AR/simulations will be able to simulate reality so closely that you will not even be able to tell the difference. You will be able to feel physical touch and you can feel love - ultimately, these are just sensations activated by nodes and nerves in our brain, and theoretically, VR can activate those exact same nodes as well.

VR will let you customize your love life in any possible way you want. You can make it as realistic as possible so that you actually have to woo your partner or he/she will reject you, or you can just have it so that the hottest anime girl or whatever automatically wants to date you. You can have a relationship without any of the issues that a real relationship has, or if you again prefer 'realism,' you can add in the chance of those problems occurring if you don't play your cards right, just as it is in the real world.

VR will make it so that human relationships are a thing of the past. As for continuing the human race, this has nothing to do with VR. When this type of VR finally comes to the market, genetic engineering will probably be prevalent (it already exists even now), and the human race will be bred with genetically-modified sperm and eggs to create generations of smarter humans without needing any sort of actual marriage or relationship between two real humans. To be honest, two humans in a relationship being the sole way to create the next generation will most likely be out the door even before VR gets to this point.

This is the future of society. Many will fear it and try to delay it because they cannot understand it, or because they think they will be losing touch with reality and relying on 'fake' relationships, but if it's advanced enough, VR/AR/simulations will be indistinguishable from the real thing, only better.

HOWEVER - sorry to disappoint, but I highly doubt this will happen within our lifetimes. So everyone on MAL right now has to do things the hard way and find a real partner :)


What's the difference?
 
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Hello! There are a few of us around, though it seems this website is filled with people who are about 10 years younger than us. We are a dying breed.
Hi! ^^ I would say that's because people at our age usually start to get bored of foruming and/or don't have as much time compared to people still in high school or just fresh out of it.

Anyway, b2t: With whom would you hang out in VR and what would you do?
 
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Yes, it is the future. I am going to sound like a weaboo loser in this post (which I am, but that's besides the point), but it is very clearly the way forward.

VR right now obviously cannot replace real human relationships. However, in the future, VR/AR/simulations will be able to simulate reality so closely that you will not even be able to tell the difference. You will be able to feel physical touch and you can feel love - ultimately, these are just sensations activated by nodes and nerves in our brain, and theoretically, VR can activate those exact same nodes as well.

VR will let you customize your love life in any possible way you want. You can make it as realistic as possible so that you actually have to woo your partner or he/she will reject you, or you can just have it so that the hottest anime girl or whatever automatically wants to date you. You can have a relationship without any of the issues that a real relationship has, or if you again prefer 'realism,' you can add in the chance of those problems occurring if you don't play your cards right, just as it is in the real world.

VR will make it so that human relationships are a thing of the past. As for continuing the human race, this has nothing to do with VR. When this type of VR finally comes to the market, genetic engineering will probably be prevalent (it already exists even now), and the human race will be bred with genetically-modified sperm and eggs to create generations of smarter humans without needing any sort of actual marriage or relationship between two real humans. To be honest, two humans in a relationship being the sole way to create the next generation will most likely be out the door even before VR gets to this point.

This is the future of society. Many will fear it and try to delay it because they cannot understand it, or because they think they will be losing touch with reality and relying on 'fake' relationships, but if it's advanced enough, VR/AR/simulations will be indistinguishable from the real thing, only better.

HOWEVER - sorry to disappoint, but I highly doubt this will happen within our lifetimes. So everyone on MAL right now has to do things the hard way and find a real partner :)


It will definitely happen in our lifetimes. Actually, it should happen within a decades' time.

I own a PSVR, and I've experinced more than my share of VR porn, and I can say that in VR, when a girl sits on your lap, or leans in for a kiss, you're completely convinced that she's there in front of you.

If it's already that good, imagine how much better it'll be in a decade?
 
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@Seiya the type of thing I am thinking of is so advanced that I have a hard time believing I will be able to see it, but AI and technology progress at an extremely fast rate, so maybe you are right. The biggest things that would delay this are legal restrictions due to safety concerns and moral outrage.


What's the difference?
 
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Imagine getting "tomodachi desu" from your 2d waifu in the 3D realm too
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Noboru said:
EndlessMaria said:
Hello! There are a few of us around, though it seems this website is filled with people who are about 10 years younger than us. We are a dying breed.
Hi! ^^ I would say that's because people at our age usually start to get bored of foruming and/or don't have as much time compared to people still in high school or just fresh out of it.

Anyway, b2t: With whom would you hang out in VR and what would you do?

I would hang out with Maria and we would draw pictures of cute witches!
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Give me something that turns real people into 2D girls and I'll throw all my money at it.
 
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I would hang out with Maria and we would draw pictures of cute witches!
Sounds good! Please share your work, then ^^
 
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If I had to choose between having my GF give me a lap pillow or a VR Emilia giving me one, I'd put that fcking VR glasses in a heartbeat.
 
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Noboru said:


mascarpone said:
Awesome! That means more real world women for me.
Not if they go for their respective Husbando, instead


Damn and I'm not really into real life NTR either lol

 
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Depends on the quality of VR. It definitely seems interesting.
If they reach Blade Runner 2049 Level's then sure why not.

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No, physical intimacy is one of the most important things for me and I can't get it through VR.

But let's look it on the bright side. For every young man who chooses VR over the real world a woman is left without a potential boyfriend/husband. In just a few years, there will be millions if not billions of free and thirsty women and just a handful of good men/women who can satisfy their needs. People will be able to literally choose between a wide variety of female partners. Polygamy may also become a thing as girls who are looking for a relationship may have no other choice but to share their partner with the fierce competition.

The gene pool will also correct itself as the weak will succumb to VR and only the strongest will be left to pass their genes. It might be what mankind needs to reach the next level of its evolution and it doesn't require violence of some great sacrifice as the people who voluntarily trapped themselves in those virtual realities will also probably find a way to enjoy themselves.


Spouting some eugenics shit I see. Also what makes you sure that it'd be only guys choosing that method and that girls would stick to real relationships? If there are fierce competition for real guys why not spare yourself the trouble and go for the VR route (which then, in a circular way, gets rid of the competition)? I'm fairly certain it wouldn't play out like you said it would.

OT: If there was a way to make me perceive the virtual world as real I'm down for living in a fantasy world, preferably not a dangerous one lol.
 
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I get by without any of it. I have my imagination, and I have my pillows. My many, many pillows. Pillows which I shape into crude approximations of human forms in order to help me sleep and to dream.
 
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It won't work for everyone, some people crave for something more genuine. I assume many would quickly get desensitized to VR. Also there's still a long way before VR becomes indistinguishable from real life.
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@Orhunaa

There might be some women who may fall prey to this VR plague, unfortunately. However women in general are far less susceptible than men when it comes to this. Also basic human biology, women start feeling an overwhelming urge to have children at some point, usually in their late 20s or early 30s. So no, we are safe, our girls won't give up their lives for this endless cycle of nihilistic degeneracy filled with individuals who are there because they were too afraid to speak to them in the first place.

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Well, I agree. Unfortunately, there are plenty of factors as you said. Some parts of my scenario are idealistic and exaggerated.
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No, VR gives me a headache (physically). Maybe I'll reconsider one day if full-dive VR is made possible.
 
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Damn and I'm not really into real life NTR either lol
Me neither due to my own moral standards, but self-inserting yourself as the one doing the NTR (as opposed to the one that has been NTR'ed) is the appealing part in 2D.
 
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That is pure ideology. Reality itself isn't even something we directly experience but a virtual reality of our mind attempting to make sense of reality. Computers allow for the simulation of the mind's creations onto reality thus helping to shape part of our reality in an image as pleased. In case you weren't aware of the occult use of technology, chaos magic practitioners are known to use technology in magical practices. VR can serve as a powerful visualization tool to attempt to manifest things to the material world. Also there are more females than males in the world iirc and this trend of gender population gap will only widen in the future due to the fragility of the Y chromosome. While some may be cutting themselves short for some a real person is not what is desired in their life.
 
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