Forum SettingsEpisode Information
Forums
#1
Aug 18, 10:23 AM
Offline
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 48
I remember watching the first few episodes of Vinland Saga and being absolutely stunned with the animation. Visuals were incredible, and the fight scenes looked spectacular. However after watching these next few episodes especially episode 6, the animation quality dropped from spectacular to good. Anyone else noticed this?
 
#2
Aug 18, 10:37 AM

Offline
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 10421
Well, it is wit studio, attack on titan and all their other series drop in quality at times as well.
 
#3
Aug 18, 12:11 PM
Offline
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 47949
thats the fate of most anime sadly, the first 4-6 episodes are usually with high quality animation but then as time passes by the production schedule tightens up since production problems usually piles up too and affects future episode production that way but im sure there will be some few (1-3) sakuga episodes for the rest of the season at least though especially with the final episode for example
 
#4
Aug 18, 12:13 PM
Offline
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 5691
I don't see any difference. It all look the same to me.

Maybe people who watch anime for just animation might see the difference, but personally don't care and I don't see any difference, visuals look too similar in each episode to me.
 
#5
Aug 18, 12:18 PM

Offline
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 67
Just because there aren't as many fight scenes doesn't mean the animation quality dropped.
 
#6
Aug 18, 1:02 PM
Offline
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 47949
just watched episode 7 i think you will be pleased with the battles there and animation in general and nope no use complaining about the 3DCG since the director of this series is a 3D expert animator since its much more faster and thus cheaper overall (although 3D animation is more expensive) to do 3D battles in the grand scale like the wars in this anime
 
#7
Aug 18, 1:15 PM

Offline
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 2992
It did look a bit off lately, fight scenes were still pretty well done though. I hope it doesn't do a Dororo and completely drop off in the middle
'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped'


 
#8
Aug 18, 1:48 PM

Offline
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1156
I think that feeling comes from the more prominent CGI in episode 7, actual 2D animation looked good imo, didn't notice any dip there.

As for episode 6 and 5, they were kind of low priority episodes for the team in comparison to what's to come.
Modified by Tsarko, Aug 18, 1:59 PM
 
#9
Aug 18, 1:50 PM
Offline
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 43
Wait til the Askreladd duel.
 
Aug 18, 2:44 PM
Offline
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 225
shootin said:
Just because there aren't as many fight scenes doesn't mean the animation quality dropped.


This. People always say this whenever there is no fight scenes, i honesy don't see a problem so far. Also for 2 cours its pretty normal for the animation being a little incosistent, unless its produced by Bones or Ufotable
 
Aug 18, 2:47 PM

Offline
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 539
The last episode had some fight scenes that weren't that good but I think the animation will not drop too much in quality.
 
Aug 18, 2:51 PM
Offline
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 225
Tsarko said:
I think that feeling comes from the more prominent CGI in episode 7, actual 2D animation looked good imo, didn't notice any dip there.

As for episode 6 and 5, they were kind of low priority episodes for the team in comparison to what's to come.


Well the folks that dont like CGI will complain till december i guess cuz the Director has been working with it in all his projects, he's gotten better tho
Modified by Edylson, Aug 18, 2:55 PM
 
Aug 18, 4:10 PM
Offline
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 225
keragamming said:
Well, it is wit studio, attack on titan and all their other series drop in quality at times as well.


I wouldn't generalize it like that, have you see other underrated shows that WIT has done : Hoozoki no Rentetsu, Love is Like After the Rain??! I mean the later looked like something that came from Kyoto Animation, these shows had good schedule, its been a while that i watched it but i dont remember any jarring moments from Owari no Seraph either, WIt can do work when they are willing to!! Aot is the one that suffers the most
 
Aug 18, 4:27 PM
Offline
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 22
I didn't really notice it.
Although it drop the quality a little bit, it is still better than majority of anime that air in this season.
 
Aug 18, 6:02 PM
Offline
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 76
1- It is still better than almost every show currently airing.
2- This was not an important episode, was mor elike 'filler' since all new character introduced on last episode will never appear again(frog face), if they are saving the budget for the more important fight scenes of later episodes i aprove of that tiny bit quality drop in this episode.
 
Aug 18, 6:20 PM

Offline
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1317
thepath said:
I don't see any difference. It all look the same to me.

Maybe people who watch anime for just animation might see the difference, but personally don't care and I don't see any difference, visuals look too similar in each episode to me.

Same do I.

I don't see any big differences in the animation. It has still high quality and I haven't noticed any drops. Besides, if an episode is one of those with less action then I can perfectly understand more static scenes with beautiful landscapes and less fights. It's obvious. I'm saying that 'cause some people put the letter of equality between "good animation" and "good fights".
 
Aug 18, 6:25 PM

Offline
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 290
I'm one of those who bitches about the CG. I was not a fan of it, but the 2D art looked very decent. Am I theonly one who hates how the water looks in this? maybe I just miss how pretty and glowy water looked in One Piece and in Free!....
 
Aug 18, 10:00 PM
Offline
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 32
The first episode was pretty good, OVA quality material. The rest have been good/okay, with some really nice 2D art. The last episode was probably the one where the CGI bothered me the most. There were some really jarring scenes, especially the one where the boats go down the waterfall, it looked really bad.

Having Wit Studio animate Viland Saga is a double edged sword. On one hand, we are talking about a renowed studio, on the other they still have to animate SnK, a juggernaut. Splitting resources would always lead to inconsistent results.
 
Aug 18, 10:13 PM

Offline
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 64
i haven't noticed a drop. this series has always looked pretty average. not average in a bad way. there's just nothing about it visually that really stands out. the only thing that bothers me is that they didn't do anything special for the OP. it's just a bunch of random scenes that don't even go with the music. and it's such an awesome song too
 
Aug 19, 2:22 AM

Offline
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 13403
Yeah there was a drop, definitely. The first four episodes were the most stunning animation-wise. Episode 5 was fantastic visual-wise. Episodes 6&7 were “ehh” in both sections.
 
Aug 19, 2:31 AM
Review Moderator
God Eater

Online
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 4973
The two latest episodes had some animation hiccups and more liberal usage of CGI for sure. However, episode seven involved a large-scale battle so it's understandable. I'm hoping the Thorfinn vs. Askeladd duels will shine like episode four and five, which are still the most visually impressive.
Modified by Skittles, Aug 19, 2:37 AM
 
Aug 19, 3:08 AM

Offline
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 1678
slight drop, but emphasis on the 'slight'. people seem to be confusing the use of cgi (which isn't inherently bad) with animation quality lowering.
AnimeFreak-San said:
is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps?
 
Aug 19, 3:23 AM

Offline
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 67
It is bound to happen, especially when you have large animation heavy battles, and it is a 25 episodes anime after all, the compositing quality won't drop tho, and the CGI helps with keeping the consistency...

Also, don't worry, the schedule and management for Vinland Saga is really good, this will not be another AoT season 3 "situation" :P
 
Aug 19, 4:12 AM

Offline
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 52
It's impossible to have that level of quality for a 24 episode anime these days i find it kind of funny how people expect such an unrealistic standard sometimes. i asure you similar to aot there will be slight dips followed by more amazing quality, but even then i personally think the most recent episodes still looked good. They did a damn good job with the cg compared to other shows, also animating giant fights with loads of people is incredibly hard animation work.
 
Aug 19, 4:24 AM

Offline
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 4156
I'm literally not seeing one.
 
Aug 19, 9:24 AM
Offline
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 44
What are you talking about
 
Aug 19, 12:45 PM
Offline
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 57
animation Still very good you're talking about isolated scenes Where the quality of a small marshland.

For example, in this last episode there were very lively action scenes but people prefer to criticize CGI.

Of course not the best cgi in the world but far from the worst.
Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines.
 
Aug 19, 12:52 PM
Offline
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 13
yeah i noticed it. it seems wit studio isn't able to maintain the awesome animation til the end of a show anymore, that's sad. we'll probably see some good animation in the more important episodes but for the rest i think it will drop even more.
Modified by latreltheman, Aug 20, 4:34 AM
 
Aug 19, 2:58 PM
Offline
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 32
How can people watch this:

https://streamable.com/nai31

And say it looks good? This is Berserk's level of animation. It still looks pretty good at times, but it's hard to ignore moments like this.
 
Aug 19, 3:36 PM

Offline
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 634
nutsie said:
How can people watch this:

https://streamable.com/nai31

And say it looks good? This is Berserk's level of animation. It still looks pretty good at times, but it's hard to ignore moments like this.


???? this scene has very good cgi
 
Aug 19, 3:55 PM

Offline
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 1540
I honestly haven't noticed any quality drop aside from CGI witch was understandable.

X s t a s y

“I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours”
―Cheshire Cat

 
Aug 19, 4:24 PM

Offline
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 30
The 2D animation was fine. The CG stood out a lot more in later episodes but overall the quality of episode 5, 6 and 7 was solid.
 
Aug 19, 4:45 PM
Offline
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 32
Taito10 said:
???? this scene has very good cgi


You are either blind or too clueless to realize how bad that looks.

God have mercy on your soul if you think this is very good CGI.
 
Aug 19, 8:18 PM

Offline
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 485
the previous episodes looks better because it has less CG. While in episode 7 CG was everywhere. the CG is not bad but not good either, and i wouldn't call it decent because the CG is too noticeable.
 
Aug 19, 8:33 PM

Offline
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 193
Jfs_ said:
the previous episodes looks better because it has less CG. While in episode 7 CG was everywhere. the CG is not bad but not good either, and i wouldn't call it decent because the CG is too noticeable.

I evaluate CG rather by how it's used instead of how noticeable it is. In this case, it's decent.
Because unless it's covered over with 3D rotoscoping, it will always be noticeable.
"Someone has to do it. Not a hero, not a God. Just someone" - Askeladd
 
Aug 19, 10:22 PM

Offline
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 4156
nutsie said:
Taito10 said:
???? this scene has very good cgi


You are either blind or too clueless to realize how bad that looks.

God have mercy on your soul if you think this is very good CGI.


People are allowed to have different opinions. I don't think that scene looks amazing either, but I also don't think it looks anywhere near as bad as Berserk.
 
Aug 20, 10:31 AM

Offline
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 634
nutsie said:
Taito10 said:
???? this scene has very good cgi


You are either blind or too clueless to realize how bad that looks.

God have mercy on your soul if you think this is very good CGI.


good, good let the butthurt flow through you
 
Aug 20, 6:33 PM
Offline
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 32
Taito10 said:
good, good let the butthurt flow through you


Why would I be butthurt?

TsukuyomiREKT said:
People are allowed to have different opinions. I don't think that scene looks amazing either, but I also don't think it looks anywhere near as bad as Berserk.


I'll agree that comparing it to Berserk is subjective, but it still looks pretty bad. We are talking about a scene that is supposed to convey movement, instead we get a still shot of two boats 'floating' in the air.
 
Aug 21, 7:57 AM

Offline
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5297
nutsie said:
Taito10 said:
good, good let the butthurt flow through you


Why would I be butthurt?

TsukuyomiREKT said:
People are allowed to have different opinions. I don't think that scene looks amazing either, but I also don't think it looks anywhere near as bad as Berserk.


I'll agree that comparing it to Berserk is subjective, but it still looks pretty bad. We are talking about a scene that is supposed to convey movement, instead we get a still shot of two boats 'floating' in the air.

Few second of wonky looking animation (only because water wasn't properly animated) doesn't compare to CGIserk which looked like shit for 99% of time.
 
Aug 21, 8:13 AM
Offline
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 32
bastek66 said:
Few second of wonky looking animation (only because water wasn't properly animated) doesn't compare to CGIserk which looked like shit for 99% of time.


I made it clear I was talking only about that scene and not Viland Saga as a whole.
 
Aug 21, 2:51 PM

Offline
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 634
nutsie said:
Taito10 said:
good, good let the butthurt flow through you


Why would I be butthurt?


if you are not butthurt then what is this? ▼

nutsie said:
Taito10 said:
???? this scene has very good cgi


You are either blind or too clueless to realize how bad that looks.

God have mercy on your soul if you think this is very good CGI.
 
Aug 21, 10:15 PM
Offline
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 32
Taito10 said:
if you are not butthurt then what is this? ▼


I apologize for being rude, but what you to me was equivalent of saying the sky is purple, when it is blue.

Your response was not worthy of a reaction like that, but I believe you need to have better standards when it comes to CGI.
Modified by nutsie, Aug 21, 10:38 PM
 
Aug 27, 9:12 AM
Offline
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 19
in most anime the animation drops in less action heavy episodes because the studio keeps its budget for the action scenes
 
Sep 1, 6:06 AM

Offline
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 428
I don't see much difference either.
And what you are talking about is commercial purposes. First episodes usually have super quality and lots of sakuga to attract as many followers as possible. The further drops in quality are inevitable and are made for budget economy
 
Sep 1, 6:35 AM

Offline
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 193
According to the new PV, the animation will ascend later on.
Not sure for how long.
"Someone has to do it. Not a hero, not a God. Just someone" - Askeladd
 
Sep 1, 11:30 AM
Offline
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 32
Elucid said:
According to the new PV, the animation will ascend later on.
Not sure for how long.


A lot of it was from previous episodes...
 
Sep 1, 2:06 PM

Offline
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 164
The latest episode had a lot of great cuts, and I don't see any kind of downgrade, plus I believe the schedule is good which is pretty rare for Wit Studio and knowing what they're capable of when the're under pressure we shouldn't worry about this for this season.
 
Top

Preview MangaManga Store