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Aug 15, 11:16 AM

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Gwenze said:
The only thing can say is, watch this video.

https://youtu.be/ts8CuW9F4QY


His voice and shouting give me a headache.
 
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It wasn't an asspull however it does seem forced. I think they should have stretched the fight to make it more realistic.

That dance was a nice touch, though.
 
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Lmao at these KnY fanboys defending what is clearly an asspull power up. Just because the characters are "specials" doesn't change this fact.
 
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Lmao at these KnY fanboys defending what is clearly an asspull power up. Just because the characters are "specials" doesn't change this fact.


Obviously didn't bother to watch the entire anime while paying attention or read anything anyone says in the forum.
 
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Anyone calling this an asspull is blind.
 
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Surprising? Yes. Asspull? No, too much foreshadowing. I bet its gonna be an 'asspull' again when we get to know more about the family background, the scar and why his headbutt could even hurt a demon.

The anime simply had one very strong episode and suddenly its getting called out for all sorts of reasons. Just to put things in perspective. For some this show is now this years blender while at the same time Enen no Shobutai has for 6 episodes now mainly been praised for visuals.
 
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ShanAsuna said:
Do you remember every single thing that happened at that age? I certainly don't

focus on the word TRADITION and explain me how he was going to pass it ahead if he didn't remember her? I thought that a tradition is something that you refines all your life and pass to your sons, not something that you're going to forgot easily like this

And it is certainly NOT just a dance if you paid attention to all the hints in previous episodes.

which hints the previous episodes had about the dance? I don't remember anything
 
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cockblockpolice said:
Nope dude, there is NO asspulls in this episode. Its common for shounen genre to have some power-up moments and it was perfect in this anime. If u want to talk about asspulls then talk to aot when reiner didnt die and armin still alive after burned and fell like that lmao


It would seem you have made it your habit to bring in AoT out of nowhere for no apparent reason. Seems you are too butthurt to see KnY much below than Aot. But you know you can calm your tits, will ya? Since kny has no chance of reaching that score which you wish and obviously once it is finished airing you are going to see a decline only in its score which always happens with any series airing.
 
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cockblockpolice said:
Nope dude, there is NO asspulls in this episode. Its common for shounen genre to have some power-up moments and it was perfect in this anime. If u want to talk about asspulls then talk to aot when reiner didnt die and armin still alive after burned and fell like that lmao


It would seem you have made it your habit to bring in AoT out of nowhere for no apparent reason. Seems you are too butthurt to see KnY much below than Aot. But you know you can calm your tits, will ya? Since kny has no chance of reaching that score which you wish and obviously once it is finished airing you are going to see a decline only in its score which always happens with any series airing.


For real. I don't think it's fair to compare the two shows since they are both their own unique qualities. I don't know what score this anime will end with but the fanbase is definitely growing. There are going to be a few idiots flying off the handle while riding this hype. As for my part, I will continue watching. Also, I don't think 3-gatsu no lion 2nd season has had a score change after airing...like ever.
 
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attacktitan_01 said:
cockblockpolice said:
Nope dude, there is NO asspulls in this episode. Its common for shounen genre to have some power-up moments and it was perfect in this anime. If u want to talk about asspulls then talk to aot when reiner didnt die and armin still alive after burned and fell like that lmao


It would seem you have made it your habit to bring in AoT out of nowhere for no apparent reason. Seems you are too butthurt to see KnY much below than Aot. But you know you can calm your tits, will ya? Since kny has no chance of reaching that score which you wish and obviously once it is finished airing you are going to see a decline only in its score which always happens with any series airing.
if you take a look you will see that most of the critics is coming from aot fans.As for the score, you can't compare anime in his first season to anime in his third season.
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Yup thats the MAL community for ya, nothing can never be too good without a certain complaint.

"Asspull" there was no such thing in this episode, thank you OP for pointing this out with evidence. I understand you anime-onlys are amaze by the animations and fights but hello stop for a second and FOCUS, the keyword is Focus here on the details and lore that the anime is presenting.

Oh and let's not forget that this is common thing in Shonens when in the heat of the moment (No pun intended) the protagonist will take out a newfound attack/transformation when all seems lost.
"You can't spell slaughter without laughter".
 
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ShanAsuna said:
Do you remember every single thing that happened at that age? I certainly don't

focus on the word TRADITION and explain me how he was going to pass it ahead if he didn't remember her? I thought that a tradition is something that you refines all your life and pass to your sons, not something that you're going to forgot easily like this

And it is certainly NOT just a dance if you paid attention to all the hints in previous episodes.

which hints the previous episodes had about the dance? I don't remember anything


It's not a tradition. The father said the earrings and the dance at least, must be passed on to you (Tanjiro). It was a wish, probably a dying one because he looked so frail in the flashback. Childhood memories are embedded in our subconscience, thats why Tanjiro didn't consciously remember that memory but in his "near-death" moment, the memory was drawn from his subconscience. This sort of "drawing out memories in the subconscience in pressurising/stimulating moments" are nothing new in the storylines of movies/books/animes. I.e. Anastasia, the Mummy 2 (heck, this one even involves memories of past lives)

There's a reason why a hint is called a hint and not a statement. If the anime went ahead and just told you upfront Tanjiro learned the dance, then the surprise is ruined. The fact that Tanjiro's family worked with fire and his earrings suggest a powerful demon slayer in the family are HINTS , not in-your-face information blast.

Seriously, there's no ass-pull in ep 19 KNY. The only things getting pulled out of asses are these nonsensical criticism about this non-existent "asspull"
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It would seem you have made it your habit to bring in AoT out of nowhere for no apparent reason. Seems you are too butthurt to see KnY much below than Aot. But you know you can calm your tits, will ya? Since kny has no chance of reaching that score which you wish and obviously once it is finished airing you are going to see a decline only in its score which always happens with any series airing.
if you take a look you will see that most of the critics is coming from aot fans.As for the score, you can't compare anime in his first season to anime in his third season.


Just because someone has scored aot hight does not mean they have to be only Aot fan, like I am aot fan, but also a steins gate , deathnote, code geass, fmab fan so saying critics are mostly aot fans doesn't make sense people have preferences and if they are criticizing that doesn't mean they are criticizing because they are fan of certain anime and not this one. I am not comparing score of Aot s3.5 and Kny 1st season, that guy constantly bring Aot without the need, and his previous posts also continue to suggest that how seriously he is affected by high aot s3.5 score and disappointed by kny current score that's why I said that.
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attacktitan_01 said:


It would seem you have made it your habit to bring in AoT out of nowhere for no apparent reason. Seems you are too butthurt to see KnY much below than Aot. But you know you can calm your tits, will ya? Since kny has no chance of reaching that score which you wish and obviously once it is finished airing you are going to see a decline only in its score which always happens with any series airing.


For real. I don't think it's fair to compare the two shows since they are both their own unique qualities. I don't know what score this anime will end with but the fanbase is definitely growing. There are going to be a few idiots flying off the handle while riding this hype. As for my part, I will continue watching. Also, I don't think 3-gatsu no lion 2nd season has had a score change after airing...like ever.



Well, in case of 3-gatsu no lion you can see the no. of members and ratings dropped by almost half from S1 to S2 which suggests only people which were invested in the series or are fans continued watching that's why score never changed during airing or after finished airing. People say the same for aot S3.5 having hight score but that doesn't seem fair as after a 4 long years gap between S1 and S2 a lot of hype and popularity died out, Aot s3 and Aot 3.5 are very recent so to gather a big community like S1 they should be given that much time also, not that popularity will reach to the levels of S1 but surely it is increasing even now. In 3-gatsu no lion there was just a 6 months gap between S1 and S2 still no. of ratings dropped to half. As for drop in ratings, you can see jump in the score of kny after recent episode that's what hype can do, It happened to aot. During airing s1 even reached 9 but you can see where it is now.
 
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attacktitan_01 said:


Just because someone has scored aot hight does not mean they have to be only Aot fan, like I am aot fan, but also a steins gate , deathnote, code geass, fmab fan so saying critics are mostly aot fans doesn't make sense people have preferences and if they are criticizing that doesn't mean they are criticizing because they are fan of certain anime and not this one. I am not comparing score of Aot s3.5 and Kny 1st season, that guy constantly bring Aot without the need, and his previous posts also continue to suggest that how seriously he is affected by high aot s3.5 score and disappointed by kny current score that's why I said that.


If your name wasn't "attacktitan_01" this would sound a lot more convincing.
 
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ShanAsuna said:
attacktitan_01 said:


Just because someone has scored aot hight does not mean they have to be only Aot fan, like I am aot fan, but also a steins gate , deathnote, code geass, fmab fan so saying critics are mostly aot fans doesn't make sense people have preferences and if they are criticizing that doesn't mean they are criticizing because they are fan of certain anime and not this one. I am not comparing score of Aot s3.5 and Kny 1st season, that guy constantly bring Aot without the need, and his previous posts also continue to suggest that how seriously he is affected by high aot s3.5 score and disappointed by kny current score that's why I said that.


If your name wasn't "attacktitan_01" this would sound a lot more convincing.


Check out my profile , you can validate what I said and name doesn't mean anything. Aot, deathnote, steins gate, code geass are all in my favourites. I clearly said I am fan of aot but also others, you can't imply since my name is aot related I am only aot fan, that's absurd.
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I am gonna repost what i posted in the other thread for this @nutsie guy and the others looking for justification.

I am surprised no body bothered to write a proper explanation yet, I suppose i would have to be the one to take the pains to write it. *sigh*

Now i will explain everything about the the fight..

So, first Tanjiro was able to cut through the (regular/normal) strings with water breathing because as mentioned in the episode itself that the 10th form gets stronger with each rotation.(also why tanjiro couldn't stop later)

and now about all the foreshadowing of Hinokami:-
1) First off the main character Tanjiro has Red-ish Eye and Hair so you would expect his powers to be related to red/fire while he had water powers
2) Secondly it was mentioned that tanjiro was something like 'child of fire' so you would expect him to have powers related to fire as mentioned by others
3) Also Haganezuka mentioned that he expected tanjiro to have crimson blade and that the color of blades can change(also that the one's with black sword don't live long) so i expected the color of his sword to change anyway though not so soon
4) When Kibutsuji sent his goons to find tanjiro, he said, find the boy with 'hanada(idr the spelling) earrings', implying that he had some connection with those earrings
5) Also in case someone brings up nezuko's mother waking her up then we have already been shown that spirits can sometimes be seen to help or guide you.

Also I think it had a good enough enough set up for it, the entire arc was about familial bonds and it were the familial bonds which helped our main characters overcome their struggles Tanjrio had his father(he inherited the power from his family via earring and kagura), Nezuka had her Mother, Zenitsu had his master and Inosuke didn't have any familiar bonds before he met with tanjiro and co. and he was losing..

I would even say this is subtle foreshadowing at its finest. There was enough foreshadowing and the set up was perfect.

PS:- Other things i forgot to mention are:-

1) In the opening it says something along the lines that 'I will let the Crimson Lotus grow'
2) Another thing I found just now that in the ending tanjiro's father was wearing the same earrring while tanjiro wasn't implying that it was a family earring since the show began

To all those who missed this or purposely ignored as it contains all the answers^^

Infact I would say the power of fire/sun of tanjiro has had the most foreshadowing since the first episode since his character design itself has RED-ish eye and hair and his earrings has a design of SUN above the waves and these are all the distinctive features of the character shown from the very first episode. Read the quote above for more details.
 
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It's not a tradition. The father said the earrings and the dance at least, must be passed on to you (Tanjiro). It was a wish, probably a dying one because he looked so frail in the flashback.

It really is a tradition and was said in the flashback. They do the dance and pray every year for Hinokami because they work with fire and he would ward off injuries and disasters, that's why i said that something like that would be hard to forgot

There's a reason why a hint is called a hint and not a statement. If the anime went ahead and just told you upfront Tanjiro learned the dance, then the surprise is ruined. The fact that Tanjiro's family worked with fire and his earrings suggest a powerful demon slayer in the family are HINTS , not in-your-face information blast.

everything you said hinted that his father could be a really badass demon slayer, alright, and that could be the reason that his family was killed, but this isn't the asspull that i'm talking about, i'm talking especifically about that dance. she appeared of nowhere when he most needed, a situation of life or death, and gave him a power up to make one of those twelve demons retreat. it looks like the author had the idea of him using fire breath all the time, but didn't think about how he could achieve that, occasioning that well executed asspull

 
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Found this in the wiki that may help explain why this isn't an asspull:



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virg0 said:
ShanAsuna said:

It's not a tradition. The father said the earrings and the dance at least, must be passed on to you (Tanjiro). It was a wish, probably a dying one because he looked so frail in the flashback.

It really is a tradition and was said in the flashback. They do the dance and pray every year for Hinokami because they work with fire and he would ward off injuries and disasters, that's why i said that something like that would be hard to forgot

There's a reason why a hint is called a hint and not a statement. If the anime went ahead and just told you upfront Tanjiro learned the dance, then the surprise is ruined. The fact that Tanjiro's family worked with fire and his earrings suggest a powerful demon slayer in the family are HINTS , not in-your-face information blast.

everything you said hinted that his father could be a really badass demon slayer, alright, and that could be the reason that his family was killed, but this isn't the asspull that i'm talking about, i'm talking especifically about that dance. she appeared of nowhere when he most needed, a situation of life or death, and gave him a power up to make one of those twelve demons retreat. it looks like the author had the idea of him using fire breath all the time, but didn't think about how he could achieve that, occasioning that well executed asspull

Because that dance was something that Tanjiro learned when he was a kid(he might even took part in some of those rituals) but when his dad died he had to become the one providing for his family. He didn't have time to do rituals because he had to work(he was the only one providing for 2 brothers, 2 sisters and his mom, the rest stayed at home) therefore his conscious memory didn't need that information and it ended up in the subconscious part of his memory. Then with the "life flashing through your eyes" thing he got that information and used it. He was desperate and willing to do anything that he could to beat the demon even if he died trying.
 
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It's not an asspull but still a dumb power up. I like how in the episode discussions I never called it an asspull but people still went crazy and said it makes sense.. it only does so because the story is trash and illogical

@cockblockpolice lmao you're one hell of a typical fanboy, sorry but the power system here is easily one of the most poorly thought out ones, it's as dumb as the setting of this universe.

how are those parts of AoT even asspulls?


It's quite funny you think these are asspulls when they are clearly logical within its universe. Unlike KnY where breath techniques and dances learned as a child when you weren't even aware of their powers and usage somehow enhance your power when remembering them in a flashback. Tanjirou trained for years after losing his family yet never remembered it before. Dogshit story and pretty much a lite asspull to be honest. How was his dad even unaware of demons existing? Considering his background it just doesn't make sense
lol dude..you embarassing yourself lol..that scene from aot is bad..they not even explain how armin could survive the fall..dont be stupid, like i said he use the dance on a ritual..thats why he never thought to use it on battle..go watch it again, this scene is seriously no asspull, you just lack an iq and need the anime to tell you 100% things lol. Just stop embarassing yourself further when you not even read the manga or watch ep 20 yet..and nope tanjiro only learn dance when he a child not breath..thats why his father said about breathing so he could combine it with the dance..where you get this inaccurate information..are you on drug? i could explain alot more just by refering to the old ep, but not really weird..most of anime watcher is pretty dumb..
 
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@Ozen106th that's why I said it's not an asspull, but a "lite aspull" because it's simply stupid as fuck. how in the fuck did his dad not know about demons even though the demon corps never vanished. how did tanjirou not learn more about all of this while training for years and meeting people from the demon corps. I'm not going to care about all these rituals, techniques and foreshadowing when it's just a dumb hack and slash story. this world doesn't make any sense, they know where to find demons but can't keep track of their own members and fight techniques. they even have demon allies and safehouses all over the place but no tanjirou family line with easily recognizable appearance and family treasures no idea what that's all about.

Not implying it's objectively bad, all the foreshadowing served its purpose but I don't care about it that much when the story overall is ass in my opinion.

btw armin fell on top of a building and was on the verge of death but got revived which was all to be expected considering they got their hands on one titan sperm injection
 
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@Ozen106th that's why I said it's not an asspull, but a "lite aspull" because it's simply stupid as fuck. how in the fuck did his dad not know about demons even though the demon corps never vanished. how did tanjirou not learn more about all of this while training for years and meeting people from the demon corps. I'm not going to care about all these rituals, techniques and foreshadowing when it's just a dumb hack and slash story. this world doesn't make any sense, they know where to find demons but can't keep track of their own members and fight techniques. they even have demon allies and safehouses all over the place but no tanjirou family line with easily recognizable appearance and family treasures no idea what that's all about.

Not implying it's objectively bad, all the foreshadowing served its purpose but I don't care about it that much when the story overall is ass in my opinion.

btw armin fell on top of a building and was on the verge of death but got revived which was all to be expected considering they got their hands on one titan sperm injection


Obviously Tanjurou was trying to lead another life than a Demon Slayer. This sort of plot is so common, someone legendary decides to live a quiet life, have a family and the protagonist is his son who later finds out his father or family's reputation, then continues the legacy.

You are obviously slinging mud for the sake of it at this point. Stop being so immature. All fiction if you dwell deep enough are going to have some gaps in logic which may or may not be plugged as the story goes on. AOT is a very obvious example. If the Eldians were some sort of "Jews of holocaust" forced to kill their own, how is it possible that none of them holding the titan powers have revolted already? If Levi is so deadly, shouldn't the death charge by Erwin been done multiple times earlier in the story using horses in formation? Why can the beast titan control titans without the coordinate? Because he has royal blood that is basically polluted by Grisha? Why doesn't Historia who is pure blooded able to do it without the Coordinate?
What is that ridiculous premise of Ymir signing a pact with the devil to get titan powers? Where's the foreshadowing for that? Can I call it an asspull then?

And don't get me started on Reiner's asspulls of asspulls. Sliced in the neck (transferred consciousness to rest of body), blasted half his head off (transferred consciousness to rest of body)... Like wtf? And if Eren focusing the crystallisation on just one part of his body makes it harder, why can't he just smash Annie who's crystallised fully?

I can go on but you get the idea.
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@ShanAsuna point is why didn't his DAD know about demons. THAT's ridiculous.

-Last time I checked the attack titan revolted and a whole resistance was formed. The other titan powers were subjugated by Marley I'm not sure what hole you're tryi

-Where in the story was a death charge like that needed? What do you even mean "multiple death charges" how does that even work

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@ShanAsuna point is why didn't his DAD know about demons. THAT's ridiculous.

-Last time I checked the attack titan revolted and a whole resistance was formed. The other titan powers were subjugated by Marley I'm not sure what hole you're tryi

-Where in the story was a death charge like that needed? What do you even mean "multiple death charges" how does that even work

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Just because Tanjurou didn't tell his kids about demons, didn't mean he didn't know. If you're trying to start a new life, you don't go around telling your kids your history. What good would it have done them to know about demons, the eldest child being 5 or less at the time?

And you mean "the Owl" don't you? I'm talking about the whole bunch of Eldian kids given Titan powers, like Reiner, Bertholdt, Annie, etc. Heck, Marleys can't even use titan powers, they can only rely on Eldians. Imagine if only the Jews could launch nuclear weapons, and kids were handpicked from the concentration camps to fire those weapons. Do you honestly think the Nazis could have made them use them against Jewish communities alone?

Anyway, this belongs in the AOT thread. I'm not continuing the discussion about AOT here.
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Because that dance was something that Tanjiro learned when he was a kid(he might even took part in some of those rituals) but when his dad died he had to become the one providing for his family. He didn't have time to do rituals because he had to work(he was the only one providing for 2 brothers, 2 sisters and his mom, the rest stayed at home) therefore his conscious memory didn't need that information and it ended up in the subconscious part of his memory. Then with the "life flashing through your eyes" thing he got that information and used it. He was desperate and willing to do anything that he could to beat the demon even if he died trying.

but the ritual was done annually, how he didn't have time for it? remember that his frail dad was doing the ritual, implying that he had work at that time, even being fragile. so how could a sick father working hard for his family could have time for the ritual, but a really strong boy that could carry tons of coal downhill wouldn't have?

there's two situations, the first one is that his dad died without teaching him the sun breath, so tanjirou couldn't do it in rui's fight because even spending two years training, it was really tough to get into water breath, imagine one that he only had a look in his early days and didn't know about demons etc
the second one is that his father did teach him the sun breath along with the traditional dance, but tanjirou hit the head in one of the annual rituals and got amnesiac about it, only remembering in a life or death situation but the muscular memory of doing the ritual helped him
we could use these words for the second situation: oh, my life through my eyes, when I get into a really bad situation, remember me about that really badass never mentioned dance who required a different breath style that's better than mine so I can overcome my opponent

i should note that i'm not trying to free hate KnY, because even having the most unbearable annoying character aka zenitsu, if you ignore him, they are doing good with a simple plot, and that asspull isn't going to destroy the series. even being an asspull, it was done really good unlike "ooh my consciousness transfer" of reiner, "ooh my rubber nen" of hisoka or the "i stopped time in your stopped time, dio!" of jotaro, these series still are likeable
 
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Because that dance was something that Tanjiro learned when he was a kid(he might even took part in some of those rituals) but when his dad died he had to become the one providing for his family. He didn't have time to do rituals because he had to work(he was the only one providing for 2 brothers, 2 sisters and his mom, the rest stayed at home) therefore his conscious memory didn't need that information and it ended up in the subconscious part of his memory. Then with the "life flashing through your eyes" thing he got that information and used it. He was desperate and willing to do anything that he could to beat the demon even if he died trying.

but the ritual was done annually, how he didn't have time for it? remember that his frail dad was doing the ritual, implying that he had work at that time, even being fragile. so how could a sick father working hard for his family could have time for the ritual, but a really strong boy that could carry tons of coal downhill wouldn't have?

there's two situations, the first one is that his dad died without teaching him the sun breath, so tanjirou couldn't do it in rui's fight because even spending two years training, it was really tough to get into water breath, imagine one that he only had a look in his early days and didn't know about demons etc
the second one is that his father did teach him the sun breath along with the traditional dance, but tanjirou hit the head in one of the annual rituals and got amnesiac about it, only remembering in a life or death situation but the muscular memory of doing the ritual helped him
we could use these words for the second situation: oh, my life through my eyes, when I get into a really bad situation, remember me about that really badass never mentioned dance who required a different breath style that's better than mine so I can overcome my opponent

i should note that i'm not trying to free hate KnY, because even having the most unbearable annoying character aka zenitsu, if you ignore him, they are doing good with a simple plot, and that asspull isn't going to destroy the series. even being an asspull, it was done really good unlike "ooh my consciousness transfer" of reiner, "ooh my rubber nen" of hisoka or the "i stopped time in your stopped time, dio!" of jotaro, these series still are likeable
Ok your right I understand but like someone here said, his dad taught him that breathing technique so he could do the ritual, not to kill demons. Tanjirou becoming a demon slayer was something that his dad never wanted/expected otherwise Tanjirou would have been taught how to kill demons by his dad.
Also Tanjirou was taught by Urokodaki, which uses the water breathing. Probably Tanjirou never thought that he could use the Hinokami as a "weapon" to kill demons(since he used for a ritual) and also Urokodaki has more experience so naturally he would obey him when training. Maybe he will find the answers in a future episode.
 
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Ok your right I understand but like someone here said, his dad taught him that breathing technique so he could do the ritual, not to kill demons. Tanjirou becoming a demon slayer was something that his dad never wanted/expected otherwise Tanjirou would have been taught how to kill demons by his dad.
Also Tanjirou was taught by Urokodaki, which uses the water breathing. Probably Tanjirou never thought that he could use the Hinokami as a "weapon" to kill demons(since he used for a ritual) and also Urokodaki has more experience so naturally he would obey him when training. Maybe he will find the answers in a future episode.

tanjirou thinking about the sun breath as a sacred thing for rituals and not for killing demons would work as a justification for him not think about it, because we already know about his intelligence and that he normally win fights thinking about strategy and not raw power, is strange for him not notice while training that breath gives strength and his frail dad was strengthened by the dance breath
 
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@ShanAsuna Was on my phone and pressed submit by accident. Didn't have time to write back had to do something

OMG there's so much wrong with your understanding of AoT. All that after you belittle me just for voice my opinion on show, third time y'all draw unfair comparisons with real GOATS like HxH and AoT who actually have well crafted stories.

I'll get back to you later this won't even be a discussion just me proving you wrong
 
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@ShanAsuna Was on my phone and pressed submit by accident. Didn't have time to write back had to do something

OMG there's so much wrong with your understanding of AoT. All that after you belittle me just for voice my opinion on show, third time y'all draw unfair comparisons with real GOATS like HxH and AoT who actually have well crafted stories.

I'll get back to you later this won't even be a discussion just me proving you wrong
i think you the one who make unfair comparison hxh and aot you already knwo alot of the strory. If you want fair comparison compare just the first season or the 19 episode from hxh or aot.you will see there is not much different. All of them they follow the same formula of shounen
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kimetsu no yaba best anime in 2019
 
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Well as someone who knows a bit about the manga... be aware these are big spoilers, so i'd just take my word for it and say that there is a reason for it, but if you must know:
 
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I don't know what to think now, if his dad actually knew about demons it's even worse? Like "I'm sick and dying but let's not tell my family demons are raping humans all over the place, and btw Muzan Jackson probably wants revenge because my ancestors almost killed him", "Continue living up here in the mountains it's fine no demons around here and I can't be bothered to ask the Demon Corps for protection". My point is; why wasn't the Demon Corps more competent in preserving these techniques/rituals/dances whatever. They are both a fastfood service for demons and a cleanup crew.

You brought up AoT so nah

AoT SPOILERS UP TILL SEASON 3 PART 2 BELOW

- Eldians are told that they are the Nazis (and they possibly are). They obey Marley in fear of getting exiled, and are told to pay for their ancestors' crimes. The kids who inherited the Titan powers are pursued by their familes to become Marleyan warriors so they can live better lives. There are so many reasons NOT to revolt, you risk losing all your relatives/friends. Not to forget their objective was to destroy the Walls to get hold of the Coordinate, who they believe left them behind. And you're here saying just because they are Eldians it's illogical they didn't revolt, Marley has way more advanced weaponry they don't rely on Titans. There are clearly clashes between Eldians themselves

- Zeke is half royal and inherited the Beast Titan, it was shown in s2 his ability to control Titans isn't consistent though. Not fully explained, am not a manga reader so idk if it already has been told.

- Last time I checked Historia isn't a Titan/ Titan Shifter

- That's just Marley propaganda. The Eldian resistance made up their own version too and called her a benevolent Goddess. We don't know the truth yet. Hope your at least aware they don't mean the Ymir we know, sorry some actually thought that

- It's not an asspull because we already knew Titans have their unique attributes. It falls under Plot Armor.

- Eren only learned crystallization recently, at what point was it useful to get Annie out of her shell? Maybe he will do so later, but there wasn't any reason to do so yet. Better to capture another Titan Shifter to eat
 
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I had no idea people were complaining about the last episode. LOL I thought everyone was praising it. Well, anyway, that "asspull" didn't even work. Giyuu had to save Tanjirou's ass again. If Giyuu didn't arrive, for sure both Tanjirou and Nezuko would've been slaughtered.
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Why didn't they use these techniques in previous episodes?
because it's shounen
no realistic at all
so yeah it's a ass pull .
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funny how all of this people try so hard to find logic in kimetsu no yaiba when they can also found a lot of bullshit in their fav anime if they try to find all the logic in them..
 
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@Ozen106th that's why I said it's not an asspull, but a "lite aspull" because it's simply stupid as fuck. how in the fuck did his dad not know about demons even though the demon corps never vanished. how did tanjirou not learn more about all of this while training for years and meeting people from the demon corps. I'm not going to care about all these rituals, techniques and foreshadowing when it's just a dumb hack and slash story. this world doesn't make any sense, they know where to find demons but can't keep track of their own members and fight techniques. they even have demon allies and safehouses all over the place but no tanjirou family line with easily recognizable appearance and family treasures no idea what that's all about.

Not implying it's objectively bad, all the foreshadowing served its purpose but I don't care about it that much when the story overall is ass in my opinion.

btw armin fell on top of a building and was on the verge of death but got revived which was all to be expected considering they got their hands on one titan sperm injection


Obviously Tanjurou was trying to lead another life than a Demon Slayer. This sort of plot is so common, someone legendary decides to live a quiet life, have a family and the protagonist is his son who later finds out his father or family's reputation, then continues the legacy.

You are obviously slinging mud for the sake of it at this point. Stop being so immature. All fiction if you dwell deep enough are going to have some gaps in logic which may or may not be plugged as the story goes on. AOT is a very obvious example. If the Eldians were some sort of "Jews of holocaust" forced to kill their own, how is it possible that none of them holding the titan powers have revolted already? If Levi is so deadly, shouldn't the death charge by Erwin been done multiple times earlier in the story using horses in formation? Why can the beast titan control titans without the coordinate? Because he has royal blood that is basically polluted by Grisha? Why doesn't Historia who is pure blooded able to do it without the Coordinate?
What is that ridiculous premise of Ymir signing a pact with the devil to get titan powers? Where's the foreshadowing for that? Can I call it an asspull then?

And don't get me started on Reiner's asspulls of asspulls. Sliced in the neck (transferred consciousness to rest of body), blasted half his head off (transferred consciousness to rest of body)... Like wtf? And if Eren focusing the crystallisation on just one part of his body makes it harder, why can't he just smash Annie who's crystallised fully?

I can go on but you get the idea.


 
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@Ozen106th that's why I said it's not an asspull, but a "lite aspull" because it's simply stupid as fuck. how in the fuck did his dad not know about demons even though the demon corps never vanished. how did tanjirou not learn more about all of this while training for years and meeting people from the demon corps. I'm not going to care about all these rituals, techniques and foreshadowing when it's just a dumb hack and slash story. this world doesn't make any sense, they know where to find demons but can't keep track of their own members and fight techniques. they even have demon allies and safehouses all over the place but no tanjirou family line with easily recognizable appearance and family treasures no idea what that's all about.

Not implying it's objectively bad, all the foreshadowing served its purpose but I don't care about it that much when the story overall is ass in my opinion.

btw armin fell on top of a building and was on the verge of death but got revived which was all to be expected considering they got their hands on one titan sperm injection
So now you keep barking about his father next?? you just keep trying to find fault..try find fault in your fav anime..i bet 100% you can find more than one..and to satisfy you..his father not a demon slayer..and i bet you will reply with "then why" and "why" why why why again like immature kid..and go on defense the its ok for armin not die after fall so high when author can make him fall less high..and its ok for reiner to suddenly move his consciousness to other oart of his body with no foreshadow or previous ep saying a titan can do that by saying a titan is "special" and not everything been known yet..lol when you can add this "special" and not been known yet to kimetsu no yaiba and your problem dissapear just like tht..everything you use for defending attck on titan try use it on kimetsu no yaiba to lighten your heart..
 
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@Ozen106th lmao stop calling me immature I'm literally just giving my opinion. and oh sorry it's almost as if this powerup has something to do with his father

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@Ozen106th lmao stop calling me immature I'm literally just giving my opinion. and oh sorry it's almost as if this powerup has something to do with his father

@ShanAsuna forgot to @ you in my last post


True to @Ozen106th assessment, you are obviously an attention-seeking kid.
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@Ozen106th lmao stop calling me immature I'm literally just giving my opinion. and oh sorry it's almost as if this powerup has something to do with his father

@ShanAsuna forgot to @ you in my last post


True to @Ozen106th assessment, you are obviously an attention-seeking kid.


Uuuhm okay you could've easily ignored my post but had to rant about AoT making yourself look incredibly stupid.
 
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@cockblockpolice you do know you brought up AoT first right? I don't think I've ever witnessed this much retardation
 
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Yes it was an asspull. How can Nezuko use sonething that she doesn't even know she had it all the time and has a really good control to it?
 
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Because that dance was something that Tanjiro learned when he was a kid(he might even took part in some of those rituals) but when his dad died he had to become the one providing for his family. He didn't have time to do rituals because he had to work(he was the only one providing for 2 brothers, 2 sisters and his mom, the rest stayed at home) therefore his conscious memory didn't need that information and it ended up in the subconscious part of his memory. Then with the "life flashing through your eyes" thing he got that information and used it. He was desperate and willing to do anything that he could to beat the demon even if he died trying.

but the ritual was done annually, how he didn't have time for it? remember that his frail dad was doing the ritual, implying that he had work at that time, even being fragile. so how could a sick father working hard for his family could have time for the ritual, but a really strong boy that could carry tons of coal downhill wouldn't have?

there's two situations, the first one is that his dad died without teaching him the sun breath, so tanjirou couldn't do it in rui's fight because even spending two years training, it was really tough to get into water breath, imagine one that he only had a look in his early days and didn't know about demons etc
the second one is that his father did teach him the sun breath along with the traditional dance, but tanjirou hit the head in one of the annual rituals and got amnesiac about it, only remembering in a life or death situation but the muscular memory of doing the ritual helped him
we could use these words for the second situation: oh, my life through my eyes, when I get into a really bad situation, remember me about that really badass never mentioned dance who required a different breath style that's better than mine so I can overcome my opponent

i should note that i'm not trying to free hate KnY, because even having the most unbearable annoying character aka zenitsu, if you ignore him, they are doing good with a simple plot, and that asspull isn't going to destroy the series. even being an asspull, it was done really good unlike "ooh my consciousness transfer" of reiner, "ooh my rubber nen" of hisoka or the "i stopped time in your stopped time, dio!" of jotaro, these series still are likeable


I'm going to go with situation number 3. Tanjiro's father taught him the dance and breathing technique , but Tanjiro never mastered it. We see that as he's suffering repercussions from using it for a limited amount of time. And we have good reasoning as to why Tanjiro never performed the ritual, that being he's only ever practiced it. Also, in episode 1 they make it pretty clear that their father passed away rather recently so Tanjiro never had the chance to perform it for the ritual since his father was still around. Throw in the fact that he was 13, never fully mastered the dance, and his whole family was massacred and sister was demonized, I think we have a pretty good reason for why he forgot about it or at least it wasn't concern number 1.



Also, here's some information that's seen in season one, that helps the overall argument for why it's not an asspull, and that's not explained until later. Read at your own risk!





I mean come on, we have hints of power ups and connections to the hinokami sprinkled throughout the beginning, you all just don't realize it and for good reason too.
 
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but the ritual was done annually, how he didn't have time for it? remember that his frail dad was doing the ritual, implying that he had work at that time, even being fragile. so how could a sick father working hard for his family could have time for the ritual, but a really strong boy that could carry tons of coal downhill wouldn't have?

there's two situations, the first one is that his dad died without teaching him the sun breath, so tanjirou couldn't do it in rui's fight because even spending two years training, it was really tough to get into water breath, imagine one that he only had a look in his early days and didn't know about demons etc
the second one is that his father did teach him the sun breath along with the traditional dance, but tanjirou hit the head in one of the annual rituals and got amnesiac about it, only remembering in a life or death situation but the muscular memory of doing the ritual helped him
we could use these words for the second situation: oh, my life through my eyes, when I get into a really bad situation, remember me about that really badass never mentioned dance who required a different breath style that's better than mine so I can overcome my opponent

i should note that i'm not trying to free hate KnY, because even having the most unbearable annoying character aka zenitsu, if you ignore him, they are doing good with a simple plot, and that asspull isn't going to destroy the series. even being an asspull, it was done really good unlike "ooh my consciousness transfer" of reiner, "ooh my rubber nen" of hisoka or the "i stopped time in your stopped time, dio!" of jotaro, these series still are likeable


I'm going to go with situation number 3. Tanjiro's father taught him the dance and breathing technique , but Tanjiro never mastered it. We see that as he's suffering repercussions from using it for a limited amount of time. And we have good reasoning as to why Tanjiro never performed the ritual, that being he's only ever practiced it. Also, in episode 1 they make it pretty clear that their father passed away rather recently so Tanjiro never had the chance to perform it for the ritual since his father was still around. Throw in the fact that he was 13, never fully mastered the dance, and his whole family was massacred and sister was demonized, I think we have a pretty good reason for why he forgot about it or at least it wasn't concern number 1.



Also, here's some information that's seen in season one, that helps the overall argument for why it's not an asspull, and that's not explained until later. Read at your own risk!





I mean come on, we have hints of power ups and connections to the hinokami sprinkled throughout the beginning, you all just don't realize it and for good reason too.


Tanjiro never mastered water breathing as well. That's why he has completely ditched it for Hinokami Kagura and has never created his own form with water breathing unlike Zenitsu and Inosuke with their respective breaths but Tanjiro was able to create his own forms using Hinokami Kagura. People are so quick to call everything an asspull if it doesn't get explained immediately. The whole point is to find out about the original breath and their ancestors.
 
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@Ozen106th that's why I said it's not an asspull, but a "lite aspull" because it's simply stupid as fuck. how in the fuck did his dad not know about demons even though the demon corps never vanished. how did tanjirou not learn more about all of this while training for years and meeting people from the demon corps. I'm not going to care about all these rituals, techniques and foreshadowing when it's just a dumb hack and slash story. this world doesn't make any sense, they know where to find demons but can't keep track of their own members and fight techniques. they even have demon allies and safehouses all over the place but no tanjirou family line with easily recognizable appearance and family treasures no idea what that's all about.

Not implying it's objectively bad, all the foreshadowing served its purpose but I don't care about it that much when the story overall is ass in my opinion.

btw armin fell on top of a building and was on the verge of death but got revived which was all to be expected considering they got their hands on one titan sperm injection


So you're telling me your reasoning that you think "it's simply stupid as fuck" and "the world doesn't make sense" because you made assumptions about the story lmao. That's a terrible argument since you don't even have evidence to back up anything you're claiming.

Only check out this spoiler if you want to see me completely demolish your argument



"they know where to find demons but can't keep track of their own members and fight techniques"

Seriously? You must be trolling.
"Sir, there's been multiple reports of people going missing in this village!" "Would you shut up! I'm trying to figure out how we could POSSIBLY figure out where demons potentially are."
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I'm going to go with situation number 3. Tanjiro's father taught him the dance and breathing technique , but Tanjiro never mastered it. We see that as he's suffering repercussions from using it for a limited amount of time. And we have good reasoning as to why Tanjiro never performed the ritual, that being he's only ever practiced it. Also, in episode 1 they make it pretty clear that their father passed away rather recently so Tanjiro never had the chance to perform it for the ritual since his father was still around. Throw in the fact that he was 13, never fully mastered the dance, and his whole family was massacred and sister was demonized, I think we have a pretty good reason for why he forgot about it or at least it wasn't concern number 1.



Also, here's some information that's seen in season one, that helps the overall argument for why it's not an asspull, and that's not explained until later. Read at your own risk!





I mean come on, we have hints of power ups and connections to the hinokami sprinkled throughout the beginning, you all just don't realize it and for good reason too.


Tanjiro never mastered water breathing as well. That's why he has completely ditched it for Hinokami Kagura and has never created his own form with water breathing unlike Zenitsu and Inosuke with their respective breaths but Tanjiro was able to create his own forms using Hinokami Kagura. People are so quick to call everything an asspull if it doesn't get explained immediately. The whole point is to find out about the original breath and their ancestors.


Exactly. It's too funny that people are saying it's an asspull when they don't even understand half of what's being laid out to them about the lore in the story so far.
 
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@S0meregularguy So all you got are two spoilers which I'm not going to read and probably don't make up for this series incompetent world building and poorly thought out setting. Can you like just not reply
 
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@S0meregularguy So all you got are two spoilers which I'm not going to read and probably don't make up for this series incompetent world building and poorly thought out setting. Can you like just not reply


Very sound argument. You should have just sat there and ate your food.
 
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@Tohsaka_Rukia Stop pretending to care about "sound" arguments. Dude gave me two spoiler buttons

How did his dad know about breath techniques and dances that can make you stronger but not about demons. That makes as much sense as that dude from ep 1 who knew about demons but never bothered to tell it to the Kamado family before.

It'll be explained in the future, but it's still going to be vague and illogical, that's a given lol. Don't need to read spoilers for that.

His sarcasm was this just stupid, the demon corps have been shown to be independent, they don't rely on "reports". They know more about demons than they do of their own history.

I mean, we're supposed to believe the general public doesn't know about demons even though thousands have died, kids go after a demon who kidnapped their brother instead of informing relatives and nothing gets explained. They have yet to show how their system works, probably a bunch of ass.
 
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