| • We knew Nezuko and Tanjirou were different from the very start, it was mentioned in the 1st episode. • Then Nezuko, it was mentioned many times, that she was also special amongst other demons, so you shouldn’t be surprised if she had some kind of powers (the blood demon art technique, is a technique that only demons closely related to Kibutsuji have. It was also said A LOT of times that Nezuko had been given a lot of blood from him. So why you surprised tho). • We knew absolutely NOTHING about the Kamado family, other than that there was something special about its family. Everyone getting slaughtered by Muzan is already a sign. So don’t be surprised if Tanjrou’s father knew some kind of hidden technique. We don’t even know HOW he died, and considering the age, I doubt he died from aging. YES, it was said that his body was very fragile, but not even once was it explained how he died. • When Muzan and Tanjrou saw each other, Muzan clearly recognized the earrings Tanjrou was wearing, meaning some kind of connection to something. In this case, if you have some brain, you can imagine that Tanjirou’s ancestors were a treat to Muzan for some hidden reasons. MEANING, Tanjirou can be in one way or another to demons. • Then we have the blade. Haganezuka referred tanjirou as a “child of fire” or something like that, so it was to be expected that he had some kind of fire powers. • Then we have Shinobu mentioning the life or death situation, foreshadowing the last part of the episode (and explaining Zenitsu’s flashbacks). Was it not foreshadowed enough? This is a clear sign many people ain’t paying attention to the show, calling it as an “asspull”. Or maybe they’ve even noticed all of this. But the thing is, when a show is getting praised more than their favorite anime, people be complaining about everything, trying to find faults everywhere. You guys are ridiculous. Thanks for reading |
| I don't know how people can call it an "asspull". |
| People just want to be force-fed information, as in word-by-word, 10 episodes before the big reveal so they can call it "foreshadowing" even though KnY already did it subtly. |
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Xenocrisi said: • We knew Nezuko and Tanjirou were different from the very start, it was mentioned in the 1st episode. • Then Nezuko, it was mentioned many times, that she was also special amongst other demons, so you shouldn’t be surprised if she had some kind of powers (the blood demon art technique, is a technique that only demons closely related to Kibutsuji have. It was also said A LOT of times that Nezuko had been given a lot of blood from him. So why you surprised tho). • We knew absolutely NOTHING about the Kamado family, other than that there was something special about its family. Everyone getting slaughtered by Muzan is already a sign. So don’t be surprised if Tanjrou’s father knew some kind of hidden technique. We don’t even know HOW he died, and considering the age, I doubt he died from aging. YES, it was said that his body was very fragile, but not even once was it explained how he died. • When Muzan and Tanjrou saw each other, Muzan clearly recognized the earrings Tanjrou was wearing, meaning some kind of connection to something. In this case, if you have some brain, you can imagine that Tanjirou’s ancestors were a treat to Muzan for some hidden reasons. MEANING, Tanjirou can be in one way or another to demons. • Then we have the blade. Haganezuka referred tanjirou as a “child of fire” or something like that, so it was to be expected that he had some kind of fire powers. • Then we have Shinobu mentioning the life or death situation, foreshadowing the last part of the episode (and explaining Zenitsu’s flashbacks). Was it not foreshadowed enough? This is a clear sign many people ain’t paying attention to the show, calling it as an “asspull”. Or maybe they’ve even noticed all of this. But the thing is, when a show is getting praised more than their favorite anime, people be complaining about everything, trying to find faults everywhere. You guys are ridiculous. Thanks for reading Pretty much every single shonen Manga ever has asspulls so...... |
| Greed has poisoned men’s souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. |
Xenocrisi said: • We knew Nezuko and Tanjirou were different from the very start, it was mentioned in the 1st episode. • Then Nezuko, it was mentioned many times, that she was also special amongst other demons, so you shouldn’t be surprised if she had some kind of powers (the blood demon art technique, is a technique that only demons closely related to Kibutsuji have. It was also said A LOT of times that Nezuko had been given a lot of blood from him. So why you surprised tho). • We knew absolutely NOTHING about the Kamado family, other than that there was something special about its family. Everyone getting slaughtered by Muzan is already a sign. So don’t be surprised if Tanjrou’s father knew some kind of hidden technique. We don’t even know HOW he died, and considering the age, I doubt he died from aging. YES, it was said that his body was very fragile, but not even once was it explained how he died. • When Muzan and Tanjrou saw each other, Muzan clearly recognized the earrings Tanjrou was wearing, meaning some kind of connection to something. In this case, if you have some brain, you can imagine that Tanjirou’s ancestors were a treat to Muzan for some hidden reasons. MEANING, Tanjirou can be in one way or another to demons. • Then we have the blade. Haganezuka referred tanjirou as a “child of fire” or something like that, so it was to be expected that he had some kind of fire powers. • Then we have Shinobu mentioning the life or death situation, foreshadowing the last part of the episode (and explaining Zenitsu’s flashbacks). Was it not foreshadowed enough? This is a clear sign many people ain’t paying attention to the show, calling it as an “asspull”. Or maybe they’ve even noticed all of this. But the thing is, when a show is getting praised more than their favorite anime, people be complaining about everything, trying to find faults everywhere. You guys are ridiculous. Thanks for reading Pretty much every single shonen Manga ever has asspulls so...... |
| Greed has poisoned men’s souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. |
| its an asspull in a sense that why now? dance of the fire god is about breathing techniques too and he was training for like more than a year on water breathing so why he did not mention he can do other breathing style he does not even have amnesia for it too but im not complaining though its not an obvious or just a lite version of asspull anyway |
| I wouldn't call it asspull because it was indeed foreshadowed. But there're still some minor things that were too convenient IMO: -Remembering the dance in a life or death situation is a thing, but not mentioning Kamado family had this custom until that moment makes all the "Remembering the dance" a little bit convenient. I mean, we were subtly foreshadowed about remembering in a life or death situation, but the fact this had to be specifically a dance previously taught by his father was kind of out of nowhere. Since we're talking about how this sequence was subtly foreshadowed, something like Tanjiro casually saying somewhat like "You know? my father used to perform a traditional dance" in previous chapters would have been enough and would have made this life or death situation look more "natural" IMO. -Of course Nezuko having a blood demon art technique was expected, but this technique by itself and how it worked, the fact she apparently knew how to properly use it and the specific moment of the fight when she used it (there were other moments when they were in real danger too) were... well, too convenient. Again, I wouldn't call those as asspulls, but I wouldn't say the whole sequence was perfect. Also, why are you being so aggresive and assuming everyone who complains is someone pissed off because a show is getting praised more than his favorite anime? Following that logic I might assume you're on the defensive because you want your favorite anime getting all possible praising and no criticism at all |
Rhapsody-Aug 13, 2019 10:41 PM
| But you see, the dance was always there in the ED. :> |
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| ye Nezuko having a blood demon art is not an asspull since special demons have that and Nezuko is one special demon anyway |
| people needs to understand that not everything needs to be foreshadowed,too much foreshadow isn't a good thing,i'd rather be surprised when i see a thing that not be because i know that thing already,there was no need to foreshadow the dance,there are already a lot,if they foreshadowed it the flashback would have lost all the impact. |
nanashi796Aug 14, 2019 12:19 AM
| There is no asspull since |
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Xenocrisi said: Was it not foreshadowed enough? This is a clear sign many people ain’t paying attention to the show, calling it as an “asspull”. Or maybe they’ve even noticed all of this. But the thing is, when a show is getting praised more than their favorite anime, people be complaining about everything, trying to find faults everywhere. You guys are ridiculous. Thanks for reading Isn`t that always the case? Some of the users here thinks they can write better story. |
| It's not an asspull but still a dumb power up. I like how in the episode discussions I never called it an asspull but people still went crazy and said it makes sense.. it only does so because the story is trash and illogical @cockblockpolice lmao you're one hell of a typical fanboy, sorry but the power system here is easily one of the most poorly thought out ones, it's as dumb as the setting of this universe. how are those parts of AoT even asspulls? It's quite funny you think these are asspulls when they are clearly logical within its universe. Unlike KnY where breath techniques and dances learned as a child when you weren't even aware of their powers and usage somehow enhance your power when remembering them in a flashback. Tanjirou trained for years after losing his family yet never remembered it before. Dogshit story and pretty much a lite asspull to be honest. How was his dad even unaware of demons existing? Considering his background it just doesn't make sense |
EsquirtitAug 14, 2019 4:42 PM
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| I am gonna repost what i posted in the other thread for this @nutsie guy and the others looking for justification. I am surprised no body bothered to write a proper explanation yet, I suppose i would have to be the one to take the pains to write it. *sigh* Now i will explain everything about the the fight.. So, first Tanjiro was able to cut through the (regular/normal) strings with water breathing because as mentioned in the episode itself that the 10th form gets stronger with each rotation.(also why tanjiro couldn't stop later) and now about all the foreshadowing of Hinokami:- 1) First off the main character Tanjiro has Red-ish Eye and Hair so you would expect his powers to be related to red/fire while he had water powers 2) Secondly it was mentioned that tanjiro was something like 'child of fire' so you would expect him to have powers related to fire as mentioned by others 3) Also Haganezuka mentioned that he expected tanjiro to have crimson blade and that the color of blades can change(also that the one's with black sword don't live long) so i expected the color of his sword to change anyway though not so soon 4) When Kibutsuji sent his goons to find tanjiro, he said, find the boy with 'hanada(idr the spelling) earrings', implying that he had some connection with those earrings 5) Also in case someone brings up nezuko's mother waking her up then we have already been shown that spirits can sometimes be seen to help or guide you. Also I think it had a good enough enough set up for it, the entire arc was about familial bonds and it were the familial bonds which helped our main characters overcome their struggles Tanjrio had his father(he inherited the power from his family via earring and kagura), Nezuka had her Mother, Zenitsu had his master and Inosuke didn't have any familiar bonds before he met with tanjiro and co. and he was losing.. I would even say this is subtle foreshadowing at its finest. There was enough foreshadowing and the set up was perfect. PS:- Other things i forgot to mention are:- 1) In the opening it says something along the lines that 'I will let the Crimson Lotus grow' 2) Another thing I found just now that in the ending tanjiro's father was wearing the same earrring while tanjiro wasn't implying that it was a family earring since the show began |
Alex_AmorAug 14, 2019 9:40 PM
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Esquirtit said: lol no, armin staying alive after a 10-20 meter fall is plot armor,with a 20 meters fall your bones doesn't exist anymore, it's almost impossible to survive and he was burned a lot too so don't say that it is normal that he survived, he should have died in an instant,with all his bone broken,that's called plot armor,1 plot armor for story's sake isn't a bad thing,too much yes,and btw snk have much more plot armor than kimetsu,there is even a chapter called human and demons that say that humans have limits and if humans were able to win with rage and emotions,demons at this time no longer existed anymore,kimetsu doesn't have plot armor,asspull or anything like that,thats why it is one of the best shounen ever created,and the best ongoing shonen atm.It's not an asspull but still a dumb power up. I like how in the episode discussions I never called it an asspull but people still went crazy and said it makes sense.. it only does so because the story is trash and illogical @cockblockpolice lmao you're one hell of a typical fanboy, sorry but the power system here is easily one of the most poorly thought out ones, it's as dumb as the setting of this universe. how are those parts of AoT even asspulls? It's quite funny you think these are asspulls when they are clearly logical within its universe. Unlike KnY where breath techniques and dances learned as a child when you weren't even aware of their powers and usage somehow enhance your power when remembering them in a flashback. Tanjirou trained for years after losing his family yet never remembered it before. Dogshit story and pretty much a lite asspull to be honest. How was his dad even unaware of demons existing? Considering his background it just doesn't make sense |
nanashi796Aug 15, 2019 1:18 AM
| also in later parts of the manga i remember that Tanjiro says |
| Tbh asspull or not it doesnt really matter for me because |
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nanashi796 said: umm if u say kimetsu doesnt have plot armor i think wrong, lets pick one example: how is possible for inosuke to survived after his head getting squeezed like that? his skulls should have been crushed and after that he is just fine like nothing happenedEsquirtit said: lol no, armin staying alive after a 10-20 meter fall is plot armor,with a 20 meters fall your bones doesn't exist anymore, it's almost impossible to survive and he was burned a lot too so don't say that it is normal that he survived, he should have died in an instant,with all his bone broken,that's called plot armor,1 plot armor for story's sake isn't a bad thing,too much yes,and btw snk have much more plot armor than kimetsu,there is even a chapter called human and demons that say that humans have limits and if humans were able to win with rage and emotions,demons at this time no longer existed anymore,kimetsu doesn't have plot armor,asspull or anything like that,thats why it is one of the best shounen ever created,and the best ongoing shonen atm.It's not an asspull but still a dumb power up. I like how in the episode discussions I never called it an asspull but people still went crazy and said it makes sense.. it only does so because the story is trash and illogical @cockblockpolice lmao you're one hell of a typical fanboy, sorry but the power system here is easily one of the most poorly thought out ones, it's as dumb as the setting of this universe. how are those parts of AoT even asspulls? It's quite funny you think these are asspulls when they are clearly logical within its universe. Unlike KnY where breath techniques and dances learned as a child when you weren't even aware of their powers and usage somehow enhance your power when remembering them in a flashback. Tanjirou trained for years after losing his family yet never remembered it before. Dogshit story and pretty much a lite asspull to be honest. How was his dad even unaware of demons existing? Considering his background it just doesn't make sense |
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zalapeno said: he was squeezing his throat,he have throat damage and vocal cord damage,he shouted and make his vocal cord damage even worse,you'll see in a few episodes,and btw inosuke have bones flexibility,giyuu saved him at the last moment,inosuke is a idiot that don't think about his wounds,as giyuu stated he was badly wounded.nanashi796 said: umm if u say kimetsu doesnt have plot armor i think wrong, lets pick one example: how is possible for inosuke to survived after his head getting squeezed like that? his skulls should have been crushed and after that he is just fine like nothing happenedlol no, armin staying alive after a 10-20 meter fall is plot armor,with a 20 meters fall your bones doesn't exist anymore, it's almost impossible to survive and he was burned a lot too so don't say that it is normal that he survived, he should have died in an instant,with all his bone broken,that's called plot armor,1 plot armor for story's sake isn't a bad thing,too much yes,and btw snk have much more plot armor than kimetsu,there is even a chapter called human and demons that say that humans have limits and if humans were able to win with rage and emotions,demons at this time no longer existed anymore,kimetsu doesn't have plot armor,asspull or anything like that,thats why it is one of the best shounen ever created,and the best ongoing shonen atm. |
nanashi796Aug 15, 2019 2:19 AM
| how the fuck that wasn't an asspull? when you talk about a family's tradition, you think that this is something that you wouldn't forget so easily becasue you're going to pass it for your sons, right? but then ep 19 happens between life and death, our good boy tanjirou remember about a cool dance that was never mentioned before but according to ep 19, it was a family tradition, and for god's sake in reality it was'nt just a dance, it was a dance who requires to breath like the fucking wim hof and he, almost being dead, he decides to try that respiration without any garantee that was going to work, but we are talking about an asspull so everything goes fine |
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virg0 said: how the fuck that wasn't an asspull? when you talk about a family's tradition, you think that this is something that you wouldn't forget so easily becasue you're going to pass it for your sons, right? but then ep 19 happens between life and death, our good boy tanjirou remember about a cool dance that was never mentioned before but according to ep 19, it was a family tradition, and for god's sake in reality it was'nt just a dance, it was a dance who requires to breath like the fucking wim hof and he, almost being dead, he decides to try that respiration without any garantee that was going to work, but we are talking about an asspull so everything goes fine Tanjiro looked like he was five or six in the flashback. Do you remember every single thing that happened at that age? I certainly don't. And it is certainly NOT just a dance if you paid attention to all the hints in previous episodes. Kibutsuji had a very pronounced reaction to Tanjiro's earrings, which are apparently a family heirloom... My guess is someone in his family line is a prominent demon slayer |
| Lmao at these KnY fanboys defending what is clearly an asspull power up. Just because the characters are "specials" doesn't change this fact. |
Only_Brad said: Lmao at these KnY fanboys defending what is clearly an asspull power up. Just because the characters are "specials" doesn't change this fact. Obviously didn't bother to watch the entire anime while paying attention or read anything anyone says in the forum. |
| Anyone calling this an asspull is blind. |
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| Surprising? Yes. Asspull? No, too much foreshadowing. I bet its gonna be an 'asspull' again when we get to know more about the family background, the scar and why his headbutt could even hurt a demon. The anime simply had one very strong episode and suddenly its getting called out for all sorts of reasons. Just to put things in perspective. For some this show is now this years blender while at the same time Enen no Shobutai has for 6 episodes now mainly been praised for visuals. |
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attacktitan_01 said: cockblockpolice said: Nope dude, there is NO asspulls in this episode. Its common for shounen genre to have some power-up moments and it was perfect in this anime. If u want to talk about asspulls then talk to aot when reiner didnt die and armin still alive after burned and fell like that lmao It would seem you have made it your habit to bring in AoT out of nowhere for no apparent reason. Seems you are too butthurt to see KnY much below than Aot. But you know you can calm your tits, will ya? Since kny has no chance of reaching that score which you wish and obviously once it is finished airing you are going to see a decline only in its score which always happens with any series airing. For real. I don't think it's fair to compare the two shows since they are both their own unique qualities. I don't know what score this anime will end with but the fanbase is definitely growing. There are going to be a few idiots flying off the handle while riding this hype. As for my part, I will continue watching. Also, I don't think 3-gatsu no lion 2nd season has had a score change after airing...like ever. |
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| Yup thats the MAL community for ya, nothing can never be too good without a certain complaint. "Asspull" there was no such thing in this episode, thank you OP for pointing this out with evidence. I understand you anime-onlys are amaze by the animations and fights but hello stop for a second and FOCUS, the keyword is Focus here on the details and lore that the anime is presenting. Oh and let's not forget that this is common thing in Shonens when in the heat of the moment (No pun intended) the protagonist will take out a newfound attack/transformation when all seems lost. |
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virg0 said: ShanAsuna said: Do you remember every single thing that happened at that age? I certainly don't focus on the word TRADITION and explain me how he was going to pass it ahead if he didn't remember her? I thought that a tradition is something that you refines all your life and pass to your sons, not something that you're going to forgot easily like this And it is certainly NOT just a dance if you paid attention to all the hints in previous episodes. which hints the previous episodes had about the dance? I don't remember anything It's not a tradition. The father said the earrings and the dance at least, must be passed on to you (Tanjiro). It was a wish, probably a dying one because he looked so frail in the flashback. Childhood memories are embedded in our subconscience, thats why Tanjiro didn't consciously remember that memory but in his "near-death" moment, the memory was drawn from his subconscience. This sort of "drawing out memories in the subconscience in pressurising/stimulating moments" are nothing new in the storylines of movies/books/animes. I.e. Anastasia, the Mummy 2 (heck, this one even involves memories of past lives) There's a reason why a hint is called a hint and not a statement. If the anime went ahead and just told you upfront Tanjiro learned the dance, then the surprise is ruined. The fact that Tanjiro's family worked with fire and his earrings suggest a powerful demon slayer in the family are HINTS , not in-your-face information blast. Seriously, there's no ass-pull in ep 19 KNY. The only things getting pulled out of asses are these nonsensical criticism about this non-existent "asspull" |
ShanAsunaAug 15, 2019 7:04 PM
attacktitan_01 said: Just because someone has scored aot hight does not mean they have to be only Aot fan, like I am aot fan, but also a steins gate , deathnote, code geass, fmab fan so saying critics are mostly aot fans doesn't make sense people have preferences and if they are criticizing that doesn't mean they are criticizing because they are fan of certain anime and not this one. I am not comparing score of Aot s3.5 and Kny 1st season, that guy constantly bring Aot without the need, and his previous posts also continue to suggest that how seriously he is affected by high aot s3.5 score and disappointed by kny current score that's why I said that. If your name wasn't "attacktitan_01" this would sound a lot more convincing. |
Alex_Amor said: I am gonna repost what i posted in the other thread for this @nutsie guy and the others looking for justification. I am surprised no body bothered to write a proper explanation yet, I suppose i would have to be the one to take the pains to write it. *sigh* Now i will explain everything about the the fight.. So, first Tanjiro was able to cut through the (regular/normal) strings with water breathing because as mentioned in the episode itself that the 10th form gets stronger with each rotation.(also why tanjiro couldn't stop later) and now about all the foreshadowing of Hinokami:- 1) First off the main character Tanjiro has Red-ish Eye and Hair so you would expect his powers to be related to red/fire while he had water powers 2) Secondly it was mentioned that tanjiro was something like 'child of fire' so you would expect him to have powers related to fire as mentioned by others 3) Also Haganezuka mentioned that he expected tanjiro to have crimson blade and that the color of blades can change(also that the one's with black sword don't live long) so i expected the color of his sword to change anyway though not so soon 4) When Kibutsuji sent his goons to find tanjiro, he said, find the boy with 'hanada(idr the spelling) earrings', implying that he had some connection with those earrings 5) Also in case someone brings up nezuko's mother waking her up then we have already been shown that spirits can sometimes be seen to help or guide you. Also I think it had a good enough enough set up for it, the entire arc was about familial bonds and it were the familial bonds which helped our main characters overcome their struggles Tanjrio had his father(he inherited the power from his family via earring and kagura), Nezuka had her Mother, Zenitsu had his master and Inosuke didn't have any familiar bonds before he met with tanjiro and co. and he was losing.. I would even say this is subtle foreshadowing at its finest. There was enough foreshadowing and the set up was perfect. PS:- Other things i forgot to mention are:- 1) In the opening it says something along the lines that 'I will let the Crimson Lotus grow' 2) Another thing I found just now that in the ending tanjiro's father was wearing the same earrring while tanjiro wasn't implying that it was a family earring since the show began To all those who missed this or purposely ignored as it contains all the answers^^ Infact I would say the power of fire/sun of tanjiro has had the most foreshadowing since the first episode since his character design itself has RED-ish eye and hair and his earrings has a design of SUN above the waves and these are all the distinctive features of the character shown from the very first episode. Read the quote above for more details. |
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| @Ozen106th that's why I said it's not an asspull, but a "lite aspull" because it's simply stupid as fuck. how in the fuck did his dad not know about demons even though the demon corps never vanished. how did tanjirou not learn more about all of this while training for years and meeting people from the demon corps. I'm not going to care about all these rituals, techniques and foreshadowing when it's just a dumb hack and slash story. this world doesn't make any sense, they know where to find demons but can't keep track of their own members and fight techniques. they even have demon allies and safehouses all over the place but no tanjirou family line with easily recognizable appearance and family treasures no idea what that's all about. Not implying it's objectively bad, all the foreshadowing served its purpose but I don't care about it that much when the story overall is ass in my opinion. btw armin fell on top of a building and was on the verge of death but got revived which was all to be expected considering they got their hands on one titan sperm injection |
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