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Aug 15, 9:34 PM
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Xenocrisi said:
Lmao this is annoying on so many levels



This fuckin bastard is definitely Saitama... He's the only that have an "Ok Reaction" face lol
 
Aug 16, 9:34 AM

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SilverEyes_ said:
Xenocrisi said:
Lmao this is annoying on so many levels



This fuckin bastard is definitely Saitama... He's the only that have an "Ok Reaction" face lol
LOLcharacter limit is about 30 characters
Should I troll in the troll bait threads? It is kinda idiotic to be logical in the troll bait threads. Well, it will depend on my mood.
 
Aug 16, 11:05 AM
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Amazing episodes
 
Aug 16, 12:15 PM

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I know new episode is coming tomorrow, and we'll find out, but I thought I'd still ask it:
If Tanjirou's sword started burning because of Nezuko's blood demon art, cutting off Rui's head, doesn't that make Nezuko who did it?
In that case, Rui wouldn't be dead, since demons can't kill other demons
 
Aug 16, 4:41 PM
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Anime of the year... I don't care if the year isn't over yet...
5/5
 
Aug 16, 5:12 PM
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Jorden_625 said:
...Even just some foreshadowing before hand would have been appreciated.


It's in the ending! It might not be the best way to deliver it, but it's definitely there.
There's a slide of Tanjiro watching in awe as his father performed the Hinokami Kagura, and inmediately after that there is Nezuko "awakening" :D
 
Aug 16, 6:46 PM
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i don’t usually comment on episode discussions but HOLY HECK that was downright GORGEOUS. it’s insane. 10/5 loved it (and it also bumped kmy up by like 0.3 on MAL!)
 
Aug 16, 6:48 PM
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-Aincrad- said:
I know new episode is coming tomorrow, and we'll find out, but I thought I'd still ask it:
If Tanjirou's sword started burning because of Nezuko's blood demon art, cutting off Rui's head, doesn't that make Nezuko who did it?
In that case, Rui wouldn't be dead, since demons can't kill other demons

no, tanjirou’s the one who did that, but nezuko was the one who burned the threads so they wouldn’t slash him while he beheads the demon (right before he did, he said something like “i’ll kill him even if it means i’ll get slashed by the threads”)
 
Aug 16, 7:29 PM
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The sudden power-up is a very common trope in this genre. Its about overcoming adversity in a moment of truth. Its do or die.
I understand that it distracted you too much. But me personally, I was genuinely surprised. I expected a different trope, the "fail and be saved by a stronger senpai" trope, and got my expectations subverted.


One thing is just a "sudden power up" other thing is the lowest range demon slayer killing one of the strongest demons out there, thats just absurd. Its like Naruto as a genin killing an akatsuki member or Gon having just became a hunter killing Hisoka (if you have seen those animes) Just trash.
you are very wrong and you just jump to conclusion
 
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xSeth said:
puppetmazter said:

The sudden power-up is a very common trope in this genre. Its about overcoming adversity in a moment of truth. Its do or die.
I understand that it distracted you too much. But me personally, I was genuinely surprised. I expected a different trope, the "fail and be saved by a stronger senpai" trope, and got my expectations subverted.


One thing is just a "sudden power up" other thing is the lowest range demon slayer killing one of the strongest demons out there, thats just absurd. Its like Naruto as a genin killing an akatsuki member or Gon having just became a hunter killing Hisoka (if you have seen those animes) Just trash.

"the lowest range demon slayer killing one of the strongest demons out there, thats just absurd" say that to episode 20. You are wrong on so many level.
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Aug 17, 1:31 AM

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this episode was the bomb, and it is the best anime of 2019 hands down everything about this episode was epic as fuck it was fire baby 10/10 ❤❤❤❤
 
Aug 17, 2:22 AM

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I feel the "sudden power up" trope is justified-able in this anime. Most anime revolve around tropes...you cant just escape it. What matter is the execution. Most shounen anime did asspull without proper setup and stake. It just feel lazy and came out from nowhere.

The "family" value has been the core theme of this anime, Tanjiro didnt set out a journey to be hokage, best pirate, strongest saiyan, etc...He is doing it for his sister, and nothing else matter. So the whole "Power of friendship/love/family" feel more genuine and sincere... i kinda give it a pass instead of whine abt it.

Beside, Ep19 would have been asspull if this statement is true "the lowest range demon slayer killing one of the strongest demons out there, thats just absurd". But that's not the case...
 
Aug 17, 4:35 AM

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xSeth said:
puppetmazter said:

The sudden power-up is a very common trope in this genre. Its about overcoming adversity in a moment of truth. Its do or die.
I understand that it distracted you too much. But me personally, I was genuinely surprised. I expected a different trope, the "fail and be saved by a stronger senpai" trope, and got my expectations subverted.


One thing is just a "sudden power up" other thing is the lowest range demon slayer killing one of the strongest demons out there, thats just absurd. Its like Naruto as a genin killing an akatsuki member or Gon having just became a hunter killing Hisoka (if you have seen those animes) Just trash.


So AoT is trash, because Mikasa was able to kill titans even as a mere cadet, right?
I dont want to offend you, but thats one of the silliest comments Ive read on this topic. You must be trolling.

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I feel the "sudden power up" trope is justified-able in this anime. Most anime revolve around tropes...you cant just escape it. What matter is the execution. Most shounen anime did asspull without proper setup and stake. It just feel lazy and came out from nowhere.


Exactly. The set up of the fight, the strength of the demon and the power up, it was all by design and served a dramatic purpose. Its not bad writing. and an ass-pull to avoid a plot hole, if you deliberately set it up like that in the same episode.

Are flashbacks the best way to establish new facts? Hell no.
But did Ufotable make it work on a dramatic/emotional level? Totally.
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Aug 17, 11:16 AM

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I don't even care if this was an asspull or not, this scene was fucking beautiful Jesus Christ ufotable you've done it again, 20x better than usual this time. I'm actually crying just because it was so damn beautiful my eyes have been blessed. Goosebumps all over.

On a side note, Inosuke fanboying over Giyu was cute x)




 
Aug 18, 12:07 AM

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That episode was the best this season so far, that final scene was so bloody good to watch.

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Aug 18, 12:46 AM

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This is what we call the FUCK YEAH episode, because you will scream it from the rooftops.

FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Aug 18, 7:18 AM
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GOOOOOOOOOOSSSSEEEEBUUUUMMPPSSSSSSSSSSS!!

This will go down in history for sure. I rarely repeat watching a scene no matter how good but I did this time round (again). This is precisely why I'm still watching (shonen) anime for more than 10 years.

The last time I get this kind of excitement is probably from AoT and My Hero Academia. I don't think we can't compare it directly though since all 3 are very different styles in the first place. 100/5 for me
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Aug 18, 2:15 PM

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So it turned out Tanjirou's family knew a powerful demon slaying technique and he remembered that while his life was flashing before he dies, and in a matter of microseconds he managed to use that technique, and then Nezuko had this weird dream and woke up with a new power, and she spoke!
That's too many asspulls in one scene, it's almost impressive and creative how this cliche' got even dumber than ever!
The animation was great but I give all the credit to UFOtable, the writer doesn't deserve any of it, especially since...

The episode wasn't worth the commotion to be honest, to be fair though the directing was great and the song at the end was beautiful.
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Aug 18, 2:54 PM
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This was one of the most intense fight in the hystory on animes. I watched it at least 20 times and each time my skin was shaking by emotions this scene brought to me. MASTERPIECE.
 
Aug 19, 10:13 PM
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This was hands down the best episode of the series! Ufotable put it all on the line with this absolutely stunning fight sequence.
However expected it was that Tanjiro wouldn't give up Nezuko without a fight, the beauty of this episode lies in the display of such strong characterization that has been building to this moment.
This arch has been nothing less than perfect giving us two amazingly hyped shounen power ups, the return of some fan favorite characters, heartwarming backstory for multiple characters and some of the downright creepiest looking villains we've seen yet.
It's clear to me KnY belongs in the discussion for not only AOTY but also deserving of its spot among the New Big 3.
And we are just getting started...
 
Aug 19, 11:19 PM

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Ooouuuuu, I like that skill upgrade for both siblings :D
That animation was FLAWLESS btw *O* absolutely stunning.

Also does Giyuu have like. Half of Tanjiro's dad's kimono or something? :0 Interesting.
 
Aug 19, 11:32 PM

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Kokoro_Inuzuka said:
Ooouuuuu, I like that skill upgrade for both siblings :D
That animation was FLAWLESS btw *O* absolutely stunning.

Also does Giyuu have like. Half of Tanjiro's dad's kimono or something? :0 Interesting.
half of giyuu's clothes is sabito's.
 
Aug 20, 5:34 AM

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Tanjiro vs Rui fight was dope. Easily the best episode of the show so far.
 
Aug 20, 9:26 AM

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Jfs_ said:
Kokoro_Inuzuka said:
Ooouuuuu, I like that skill upgrade for both siblings :D
That animation was FLAWLESS btw *O* absolutely stunning.

Also does Giyuu have like. Half of Tanjiro's dad's kimono or something? :0 Interesting.
half of giyuu's clothes is sabito's.


Whoa... Don't spoil me but I think there's a big story behind that...
 
Aug 20, 10:00 AM

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Ufotable has always surprised me but with this episode they raised standards so how I didn't think it was possible to execute an anime episode like this. I couldn't even breathe properly while watching this episode.

Infinity/10
 
Aug 20, 5:38 PM

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Damn, this arc stepped up REALLY HARD, i thought this was going to be a average trip until the end, i'm shocked by this arc and this episode in particular.
This. Animation sequences are extremely rare to come by. I think we have found ourselves fight of the year
 
Aug 20, 9:05 PM

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Gotta say this was incredibly well executed. What really got me upon second watch was Shinobu's line: "According to one theory, the reason one sees such images just before death is because you're searching for a way to avoid death by going through all your past experiences and memories"

The foreshadowing is insane. I'm stunned at how good it is.

It was obvious that there was something up with his family since Kibutsuji specifically targeted them and his flashback involving one of Tanjiro's ancestors. Best episode in the series so far. Usually I'm skeptical of power ups but this was so organic, logical, and well executed I can't call it an asspull. Great episode.
 
Aug 20, 9:29 PM

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Well, I didn't get why this episode is the "best of the world" as some people are saying.

Sure it's a good episode, but I sincerely don't see it being that all. IMO

Though if compared to the other episodes of the own anime, so yes, the best episode so far.

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Aug 20, 11:48 PM

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Best episode so far. I wonder if they can top it

The way you make me feel inside my bones
I can't remember how it feels to be alone
 
Aug 21, 6:20 AM

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The first half was okay, but the second half left me shook with all those beautiful visuals. Goosebumps by the last 3 minutes.




i'm awesome right?!
fight me!!



 
Aug 21, 7:05 AM
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I'm actually not sure how autistic a person has to be to rate this episode lower than 5/5
 
Aug 21, 7:06 AM
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like are you actually fucked in the head? how the fuck can you give this episode anything below 5/5?
 
Aug 21, 7:10 AM

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This and rezero eps 15 has the highest number of 5/5 votes so far (in MAL).
rezero ep15 has 5165 votes of 5/5 (91.46%)
KnY ep19 has 5165 votes of 5/5 (97.00%)
and both is my favorite anime.
 
Aug 21, 6:00 PM
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Nezukoisangel said:

If you didn't like AOT, then it's fine, it's not a story that you are forced to like but what you are saying about it being overrated or that the show is a joke is VERY exaggerated!

AOT was never meant to be only a shounen action oriented story, it's more about mystery, so you will never enjoy a scene if you don't watch it all fully, without skipping anything, because it has too much foreshadowing and hints and many strange mysterious scenes, that you wouldn't understand at first.

I read the manga, and I can easily say, it's one of the best fictional stories I have ever read, it's really one of the most well written and thoughtful mangas of all time. It's not joke if people think it's one of the best ever, I don't know if you care about writing, but the writing in this story is BRILLIANT!

You can't put down the effort put in this story/show to praise another show, there's a difference between don't liking a show and hating on it for no reason.

I love KNY, and this episode was one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen, but it doesn't make it better than AOT at all, because story wise AOT is on another whole level from plot to characters depth to dialogues and it gets more and more complicated later on, it's not typical and predicable and you end up understanding each side, you can't say for sure who's the bad ones, if there's any.
So, a story like this really takes a lot of writing skills.. let animation aside, music aside, only writing... AOT wins hands down.

As a person who watches anime a lot, it's rare to watch such shows with unique stories like AOT, just like it's rare to watch something like KNY's last episode with its heavenly animation.

I wish that KNY will show more of the plot in S2, I might read the manga after this season ends.


So, it's fine that many would say that AOT S3 part 2 is AOTY, I also think so, and I think if it didn't win then should be Mob Pyscho 100 2 or Vinland Saga and the fourth choice is KNY.



If you just keep thinking people are insane and that we're overreacting then don't be mad at people who think that KNY is bad and overrated and trust me they will increase after the series ends, it always happens.


Watched Mob Psycho I and II, followed AOT until the ridiculous stall for S3 (actually I lost some interest since season 2), and just for the sake of understanding the pov of people raising all these alternatives to best anime of 2019, I watched Vinland Saga up to its latest episode...

And personally, I think only Mob Psycho 2 has anything on Kimetsu no Yaiba. Not only that, if I had to pick one between the two, I think I would pick KNY because it's the better performer overall. In my opinion, the synergy between the animation, the soundtrack, the direction and deliberate pacing is just better.


I think you're right about KNY being a slightly better than Mob in some aspects, I can see that.

Ufotable is doing the god's work; the animation is f**king INSANE, it gives me chills honestly...and how they match it with the incredible osts is so so so good.

I swear I repeated the fight scenes from episode 19 and 17 and also many scenes of Nezuko, she's too adorable.
Seriously the art style for he characters is amazing, especially Nezuko, her look is iconic to me :D

My commentary was just showing how strange that some would criticize AOT for the sake of its fame, "because it's very popular it must be overrated"
People are just ignoring the content, they don't try to understand what's going on other than that anime is popular let's watch some scenes and oh that wasn't bad, it was ok LOL, of course!

anyone is free to like or to dislike a show, but there are those ones who they think they understand a show and just hate on it when they really don't understand anything, and if you get it and it's not your cup of tea then EVERYTHING IS FINE, but don't act as if other people are supposed to be crazy for loving and hyping such an epic show!!

Also, there's an objective side when it comes to the good writing, it's just obvious, you know?


Anyway, I'm just enjoying all these amazing shows in a single year and I'm feeling good. Whether AOT wins or KNY or any other show, the great praise they got it's enough for me.
 
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what a god-tier episode. nezuko demon art collaborating with tanjiro's hinokami kagura power was AMAZING. kny is just too good.
 
Aug 22, 1:28 PM

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This the best episode I've seen by ufotable period. The ost in the end made it 10x times better than it already was.
 
Aug 23, 4:33 AM

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Typical shounen lol remembering a vital info last minute and turning the tide. But on a serious note, goddamn, that animation sure is pleasant to the eyes. Ufotable outdid themselves, good thing they did this and not some other animation studios cause I doubt they could pull this shit off.
 
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Oh it's under 97% now :/
Without the haters it would be 97.65%
 
Aug 23, 5:15 AM
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-Aincrad- said:
Oh it's under 97% now :/
Without the haters it would be 97.65%


Is someone that gives this episode anything other than a 5, automatically a hater now?
 
Aug 23, 5:20 AM

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xenosys said:
-Aincrad- said:
Oh it's under 97% now :/
Without the haters it would be 97.65%


Is someone that gives this episode anything other than a 5, automatically a hater now?
i think he was talking about that 1/5 voters.
 
Aug 23, 5:25 AM
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Jfs_ said:
xenosys said:


Is someone that gives this episode anything other than a 5, automatically a hater now?
i think he was talking about that 1/5 voters.


I figured that might be the case, but people who voted the episode 2,3 or 4 would also affect the 5/5 score.
 
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xenosys said:
Jfs_ said:
i think he was talking about that 1/5 voters.


I figured that might be the case, but people who voted the episode 2,3 or 4 would also affect the 5/5 score.
Therefore he said it would be 97.65% (not 100%) without haters i.e. 1/5 voters.
Should I troll in the troll bait threads? It is kinda idiotic to be logical in the troll bait threads. Well, it will depend on my mood.
 
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For anyone genuinely interested in why ep 19 of KNY is almost universally praised,you can check out this article below and the comments under it. There are some spoilers though, just FYI.

https://www.goombastomp.com/demon-slayer-kimetsu-no-yaiba-episode-19-hinokami-pinnacle-genre/
 
Aug 23, 9:19 PM
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-Stray said:

Either this or Mob is AOTY, 2019 is such a grand year for shounen lovers.


They're so right this year is incredible for the shounen industry, not to forget that next season we are gonna get some othe anime too: Haikyuu!! S4, Boku No Hero Academia S4, Nanatsu No Taizai S3 and in 2020 we are gonna hav Yakusoku No Neverland S2 and Shingeki No Kyojin S4 (Final Season) And ofc we already have Dororo, Enen NO Shouboutai, Dr. Stone, MOB Psycho 10 II and Kimetsu No Yaiba. This year and next year too! God bless that I live in this era <3
 
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I didn't know about Ufotable Studio at first since I didn't watch Fate Series, but goddamn bois the animation is blessing my eyes every second, totally my anime drug this year ;3
 
Aug 24, 7:15 AM

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Wow.
That fight scene was stunning, the animation, the choreography, the transition from water to fire...
 
Aug 24, 2:25 PM
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Moreso than anything I'm just confused. Why this episode over the others? It ends the same way every other fights ends. Like this is the formula:

character is struggling in fight-> bad guy is doing the "you can't defeat me" or "i have the power thing that you are unable to overcome"->character is about to die/lose->character has ultra specific flashback->flashback gives them the will to overcome the enemy or gives them a powerup->fight ends instantly

It's still the same thing again. Seeing the sister learn blood arts was neat but it was also the result of a flashback powerup so? I agree that it's really good but uh generational great episode? I don't see it? I guess the visuals are fantastic so that means everything else must be good? The visuals are definitely some of the best I've seen in years but writing wise it's still lacking.

Pretty good episode though. Like a 7.5/10 or so
 
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It's the first time seeing such a beautiful animation
 
Aug 24, 4:03 PM
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It was the most exciting ep. in this Anime. I was like crying from the beauty of it. Everything was indescribable.
 
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ALL HAIL UFOTABLE!!!

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