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Aug 3, 11:30 PM

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Pathetic episode, the whole "war" felt like a joke. All the members of the Hestia party did 1v10 without taking damage lul, although it was funny to see how the mc almost lost because the prophet grabbed him xd
 
Aug 4, 12:35 AM

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Their emblem looks like trash. :D

Also, Apollo's general use Frieza move. Like that evere worked.
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Aug 4, 3:27 AM

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War Game done in one episode, didn't see that coming lol.
As obvious as it was that Apollo would lose, didn't expect they'd lose this fast.
Even Hyakinthos was a freaking joke, or maybe that amulet actually did something.

Ryuu badass as usual hope we get more of her later. Mikoto and Lili were great too.
Great new home they got there heh.
 
Aug 4, 4:01 AM
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Pretty awesome episode .. i liked it.. I am actually very happy that the animation was cool.. its really very curious how the same studio does the same animation of opm s2 and now gives this animation
 
Aug 4, 4:46 AM

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Glad to see more action in this series. Nice to see the Apollo familia gets kicked out lmao and Hestia familia got all their stuff. Nice to see Bell in their emblem

 
Aug 4, 1:44 PM

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You do realize both the elf chick and the samurai chick are presented uber strong from the previous episode right? Also they used really powerful weapons which can swing the tide. Another issue is you assume everyone in Apollo's army is strong . In fact most are very weak and when caught by surprise they can get overwhelmed easily especially since they do not work together so well. About the main dude he is just one level above Bell and skill can easily help someone defeat someone a couple of levels higher, especially on the lower ones.


Maybe you should try reading other posts lol. Ryuu is level 4, her taking on 50 of them is fine, I guess. Mikoto is level 2. She's the same level as that elf guy that Ryuu defeated in a span of half a minute. Her taking on two dozen people is insane. Welf, who's a blacksmith more so than a combatant, floored 10 people with one attack. I don't assume everyone in Apollo's familia is "strong"; I assume they aren't insanely weak.

I don't have a problem with Bell defeating Hyakinthos; I have a problem with Hyakinthos charging at Bell with a knife like a complete fucking idiot and losing to a dodge and a kick.
Mikoto is presented as a prodigy. Also the element of surprise played a big role. More than that just as MC did not know how to fight and only relied on pure strength I am assuming so where the two dozen people. Welf used a very expensive magic artifact. Is like going against a dozen well trained samurai with a napalm bomb. Their training does not help. H charging makes sense. He underestimated Bell and become enraged. Angry people make dumb mistakes. Also about being weak or strong until a certain level the equipment matters more than your personal level when taking a hit. Apollo family where entirely unprepared. Except a couple of people none had armor, etc. You underestimate what panic and surprise can do.
 
Aug 4, 1:54 PM
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I haven't read the ln so I don't really know if the War Game was equally short in the original work, but if that's the case I guess the author just wanted to bring certain characters to Hestia's familia and make them a little more wealthy, because then the War Game arc was a great solution.

Yet, more or less half an episode (yeah, that's how long the whole War Game took...) shouldn't be enough for Hestia's familia to win a siege when they were so outmatched.
 
Aug 4, 4:36 PM

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Great episode. And the music was also epic. Really glad it ended like this, Apollon get what he deserved.
 
Aug 4, 5:59 PM

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The thing about the elf dude being pissed off at another elf using the magic swords was pretty stupid...it's just such an immature and superficial stance to take that's based entirely on emotion and no logic whatsoever. Like if a dude with a sword kills your clan, are you not going to use a sword to take revenge? Or in modern terms, if an electrical fire burned down your home, are you never going to live in another home without electricity or other forms of heating that can cause a fire ever again?...so on and so forth, with countless other examples.

The end was...ok. The OP and ED spoiled it from the beginning though, which is why it felt so anticlimactic to me. That, and the fact that this is a shounen series where "the good guys always win no matter what" and the bad guys never get killed, only beaten up (with the flat or blunt side of the blade kind-of-deal), no matter how evil they are.
 
Aug 4, 6:56 PM

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Their emblem looks like trash. :D

Also, Apollo's general use Frieza move. Like that evere worked.


true, the logo is just like child drawing, maybe they want to put joke because hestia VA also cant draw lol
 
Aug 5, 2:01 AM
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What was that new house symbol looked really bad
 
Aug 5, 5:45 AM

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and here I though the battle would last half the season.

good job bell you did it well.

although I have a slight problem on how he dealt with that homing ring, I know he probably used firebolt as a panic attack but he should've just gotten near enough that commander and let it rip lmao
 
Aug 5, 6:59 AM
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Don't know why but the scenes that should be in the anime are being put on the mobile game instead .

That's just stupid hardly anyone plays the game . They are basically saying play the game to get more out of this season basically
 
Aug 5, 8:24 AM

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Happened what I thought: They got the mansion (we saw in the opening before) from Apollo. When I saw it first I was wondering why Hestia and the guys would be lying inside there in the opening... With War Game I got my answer.

Even it was everything in one episode, I think it's a solid one. Good action, good resolutions. 5/5
 
Aug 5, 11:04 AM
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Episode 4 was really good !! I'm glad that the war between Hestia & Appolo didn't take so much time !! They just finished the game in one episode and that's cool we don't have a time 2 waist in this war between Hestia and Appolo !! Now let's go for the new arc next week with episode 5 πŸ”₯😱 I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE I DIDN'T READ THE LIGHT NOVEL SO I HOPE SOMETHING BIG IS COMING !! 😭🀭
 
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I felt very fast and I felt very briefly the war game between families was waiting for me more but it was not bad

 
Aug 5, 9:41 PM
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What a great episode, without a doubt, is the best of this second season so far. I loved.
The war game was simple and lasted only one episode, but it was very cool. Bell and the others had an overwhelming victory over the Apollo family, and they got it thanks to teamwork and a good strategy. With only 5 members in their team they were able to defeat more than 100 enemies of the opposing team. It was something really satisfying. Hestia does not go around, he claimed the victory of his family how it had to be and gave Apollo a well deserved. Hahaha, and the mansion, what a great change, now they can live well 😁. The reaction on Apollo's face to see that he lost should frame it in a painting and hang it on his wall, LOL.

Anyway, I am happy and satisfied with the results of this game 😁.

Ps: Syr, the waitress, is so pretty with Bell. She is a good girl. Too bad Bell only has eyes for Ais πŸ˜….
What a good reward Mord took, the guy who bet on the Hestia family, hahaha.
 
Aug 6, 5:11 AM

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Still think the pacing this season is too fast, did not expect the War Game to end in one episode.

Also, what was that pendant with the face on it ... feel like that will be an important detail later on
 
Aug 6, 5:33 AM

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My level of disappointment is immeasurable.
 
Aug 6, 6:46 AM

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Good episode.

Now that they are rich, they better buy hestia some new clothing.
 
Aug 6, 7:09 AM
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FrozenRaider said:
Their emblem looks like trash. :D

Also, Apollo's general use Frieza move. Like that evere worked.


true, the logo is just like child drawing, maybe they want to put joke because hestia VA also cant draw lol


Seems people don't realize that it was a rough drawing made in the momment . Next PV shows they got a specialist to draw the final logo
 
Aug 6, 8:23 AM

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Well that was resolved quickly.
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Aug 6, 10:19 AM
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The thing about the elf dude being pissed off at another elf using the magic swords was pretty stupid...it's just such an immature and superficial stance to take that's based entirely on emotion and no logic whatsoever. Like if a dude with a sword kills your clan, are you not going to use a sword to take revenge? Or in modern terms, if an electrical fire burned down your home, are you never going to live in another home without electricity or other forms of heating that can cause a fire ever again?...so on and so forth, with countless other examples.

The end was...ok. The OP and ED spoiled it from the beginning though, which is why it felt so anticlimactic to me. That, and the fact that this is a shounen series where "the good guys always win no matter what" and the bad guys never get killed, only beaten up (with the flat or blunt side of the blade kind-of-deal), no matter how evil they are.

this series becomes more bloody and brutal later on actually. In season 3, if we ever get one ofc xD
 
Aug 6, 11:19 AM

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Lol, I loved the interaction between Hestia and Apollo at the end where she was stealing all his stuff and banishing him. She's definitely my favorite character in the series. Hestia is forever Bestia. The war games ended up being a bit anticlimactic, I thought they would be at least 2-3 episodes, but whatever.
 
Aug 6, 8:25 PM

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Wait what? I never thought that the castle siege would happen so fast xD I thought it would be one of the last episodes but nevertheless, it was a great episode!

Now Hestia's Familia is even bigger!
And bye-bye Apollo xD
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Aug 7, 1:10 AM
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So that pendant was from Freya? I'm guessing he would of died without it!
 
Aug 7, 10:49 AM

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THEY SKIMPED.
THEY SKIMPED ON SO MUCH. I'm really upset, the familia game was such a strong arc, even though it was short. None of bell's striving, hardly any of the overwhelming odds his friends faced.... UGH
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Aug 7, 4:09 PM

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kinda underwhelming :c

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This series does not real appeal to me as much but it has this moments, i just love it when arrogant pricks get there come ups especially when they think the odds are so stacked to there favour they come crashing down hard. So long Apollo. LOL
 
Aug 8, 11:33 AM

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I really liked the war game in the LN and was, let's say, more then a little disappointed with the way they adapted it.
Like some posts above already said, they skipped too much and made it look too simple and unbelievable.
Hope they don't pull the same move with the next arc...
 
Aug 8, 8:49 PM
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Could've been paced better but overall good ep.
 
Aug 9, 12:25 AM
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I generally try to peruse the comments here before posting, but I was hoping to find out what the deal with the charm was?

And I'll agree with everyone here, they really sprinted through that whole thing. It was kinda like a whole lot of foreplay the climax happened 2 minutes in.
 
Aug 9, 2:00 AM
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People here whining about how they rushed this arc while im here just glad this boring arc is over already so we can get to the real shit next episode
 
Aug 9, 4:36 AM
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People here whining about how they rushed this arc while im here just glad this boring arc is over already so we can get to the real shit next episode


Next episode will be the ending of the arc . The next arc won't start still next week
 
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I generally try to peruse the comments here before posting, but I was hoping to find out what the deal with the charm was?

And I'll agree with everyone here, they really sprinted through that whole thing. It was kinda like a whole lot of foreplay the climax happened 2 minutes in.


It was given to him by Freya. It supposedly helped with magic that hit him
 
Aug 9, 6:44 AM
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This season feels so rushed, nice to see Hestia took over Apollo house and exile him
 
Aug 9, 9:58 AM
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Compared to the novel, was anything cut out?

Cassandra's prophecy came true. no shock.

And does anyone know the meaning of that Necklace's symbole that was revealed after the green gem was shattered?
 
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Too easy for Bell. I thought the war game would be stretched for the whole season
 
Aug 11, 3:35 AM

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There was no life in this episode, I didn't feel excited even though this has been the build up since 3 episodes.
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Aug 11, 3:43 AM
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Too easy for Bell. I thought the war game would be stretched for the whole season


Should have been more like 6 episodes. I don't see why people would expect it to be the whole season .
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Compared to the novel, was anything cut out?

Cassandra's prophecy came true. no shock.

And does anyone know the meaning of that Necklace's symbole that was revealed after the green gem was shattered?


this list should help

https://www.reddit.com/r/DanMachi/comments/cllw1p/crosspost_is_it_wrong_to_pick_up_girls_in_a/
 
Aug 11, 11:05 AM

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The possible game changer is actually Cassandra, with no doubt... if they didn't put her aside lol. She knew about Lily, about Bell's hidden power, and even about that firebolt from lower level. Well, that's the example of a familia who didn't think smart.

Although something like this is can be guessed (of course, MC always win), but seeing Apollo defeated because of their own foolness is add more happiness to watch.
 
Aug 13, 8:26 AM
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War game was really cool!

Magic swords from Ryu and gravity magic from Mikoto were pretty amazing!

Lili disgised was also a good play in this war game!

I am glad Bell is stronger and used Ains advise at the end!

Obvious Hestia took everything from apollo, Hestia is the best!
 
Aug 21, 8:53 PM

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why does this anime keep me watching? :p
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Aug 24, 12:07 AM

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This war game felt rushed tbh.

At least they got a new mansion out of it.
 
Aug 25, 3:36 PM

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i said on episode 2 how much i hated episode 2 and expected to hate the rest of the arc, but this episode was awesome, specially the end when Hestia just banished Apollo like that LOL
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Aug 26, 11:09 AM

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It was so sadly rushed even though I Love this series and rest the books it was so disappointing. This is the second best book in the series and it was chooped into three episodes. The magic sword barely did any damage compared to book. Not to mention how poor the final fight was. They didnt capture Hyth. rage at all. The fight was shortened badly, no Hermes Hestia convo of Bell being SS rank. This is the only reason he could hold his own in this fight. Just disappointing.
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Well, this was just bad. JC Staff has been known for skip and rush things, which they did here, of course.

-Bell was not supposed to have the Hestia Knife here, as it was used to pay Lily's debt (they got it back with Apollo's money later)
-Welf forged a new knife (Ushiwakamarunishiki) with the remains of the minotaur's horn. As it was forged by a blacksmith with the forging skill it was actually quite strong. Bell used both minotaur's knife for the War Game.
-Mikoto didnt blocked or dodged all the attacks, she was actually injured and almost got taken down several times
-They skipped the fight between Bell and some low levels from Apollo, and his conversation with Ryuu when she told him that he was the one that had to defeat Hyakhintus.
-Argonaut here was a chime, not a bell.
-Cassandra actually begged Hyakhintus way more hardly and she pushed him out of the window, otherwise he wouldnt have resisted that 1 minute charged Firebolt...
-This was the worst mistake. The fight between Bell and Hyakhintus was longer, Bell used hit and run tactics while the pervert barely managed to block his attacks because of the speed difference, but he did blocked them. They skipped all this in the anime.
-They skipped the conversation between Hestia and Hermes where Hestia explained that Bell stats after beating the minotaur were all SS and SSS.
-The new minotaur knife was the one capable of breaking Hyakhintus's sword, but this one doesnt exist on the anime...
-The battle kept going, where Bell was starting to get exhausted, also skipped.
-Bell actually fired a Firebolt directly to Hyakhintus when he started casting his magic, injuring him greatly. Cassandra stops Bell after this.

Anyway, this was just bad. They actually skipped 2/3 of the Bell vs Hyakhintus plus the other mistakes or things skipped. Thanks again JC Staff, i really hope they dont plan to adapt V8, because if they do Ishtar's arc will be a disaster considering how long it is.


Pretty much highlighted eberything that disappointed it for me. My second favorute book ruined. If they ruin the Ishtararc the best book in the series, theres no hope for this anime.
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Why use the gravity spell there? She barely caught anyone.

Why is the prophet trying so hard to help the Apollo family? She should hate everyone there after being forced into the family and likely repeatedly raped.

I'd like to know how no one died when he blew up the tower.

The fight choreography in this series is terrible.

Why didn't she ban him from the Lower World? Only banning him from Orario still allows him a chance to recover and become a nuisance.

How are they planning to clean such a big place? They totally can't afford to hire maids. They might be able to manage if they turned it into an inn, but I seriously doubt that they will.
 
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