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Aug 2, 2019 1:30 AM
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https://myanimelist.net/topanime.php

Basically since it came out, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood has dominated the top rated spot on the Top Anime page but now it is 6th!! That's almost 10 years!! FMAB is a great anime but I think it's a testament to the quality of some of the series we are seeing these days (like SNK) :))
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Aug 2, 2019 1:33 AM
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The top 10 are always just a testament to recency bias, not much more. Feel free to completely overvalue arbitrary 0.01 or 0.02 average score differences, but that's not gonna make them any less meaningless from a neutral perspective.
I probably regret this post by now.
Aug 2, 2019 1:38 AM
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i think its just the mal site playing up theres no way a show loses 0.14 in a day when it has over 700k votes
Aug 2, 2019 1:39 AM
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It's most likely a bug, you'd have to make more than 10000 accounts to make FMAB drop 0.14. Plus it doesn't have many 1s from what I've seen.
Aug 2, 2019 1:40 AM
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Connortit said:
i think its just the mal site playing up theres no way a show loses 0.14 in a day when it has over 700k votes
well i mean, there have been bot down voters lately (or so i've heard) but i can see your point about mal site acting up




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Aug 2, 2019 1:41 AM
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maybe a lot of old accounts with high ratings for FMAB got cleaned up today ?_?
Aug 2, 2019 1:41 AM
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Couldn't care less about the scores but it's extremely hilarious that this happened so randomly.
Aug 2, 2019 1:41 AM
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What the heck? What happened here? Did someone overslept, or something?
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Aug 2, 2019 1:44 AM
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Bowie said:
MAL is just like Metacritic or Rotten Tomatoes. It's an amalgamation of a whole bunch of different people's opinions, forming a consensus as to the view of that community as a collective whole. It may serve as a guideline for whether a show is worth a watch, but it is by no means the only thing you should go by when determining what to watch next. So, if a show is in the top 10 or 20, it is not and should not matter at all to anyone.

Also, the last time I checked was 9.24, so it's either a bug or users like you, in the past two days have created so many alts in order to make possibile this. I'm assuming you were aot fans? As i thought.

nope i definitely have the same opinion as you i was just giving my thoughts on why i think the score dropped
btw i rated both fma and aot s3 part 2 10s i like fma more but i think there both master pieces
Aug 2, 2019 1:48 AM

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Most likely the admins have deleted at once some obvious fake or inactive accounts.
Aug 2, 2019 1:48 AM
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Horly sheeeeet! But honestly FMA:B though is technically an abosolute masterpiece is boring as hell, jesus christ I could not stomach more than 1 episode at a time maybe it's my inner 12 year talking
Aug 2, 2019 1:50 AM

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lol what a dropped that was but im not gonna be surprise if it comes back to the top again
Aug 2, 2019 1:52 AM

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I'm a FMA fan and I fail to see what the big deal is. Barely paid attention to the top anime list to begin with. Doesn't matter if it's first or 100th on the list,won't change my opinion of it or anything that takes it's place.
Aug 2, 2019 1:53 AM
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Looks like AoT is the new king followed by Stains;Gate and HxH I'm not complaining
Aug 2, 2019 1:53 AM

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It dropping down to #6 seems kinda suspicious tbh did someone bot it or what lol

Now the real question is when will the hardcore FMA fans come out and bot it back to #1
Aug 2, 2019 1:58 AM

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Woah I was expecting to see it #2 but it got way down, that's weird.

If this is a bug I'm just gonna enjoy seeing Snk at the top for a while before it gets fixed lol
Aug 2, 2019 2:05 AM

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I'm a FMA fan and I fail to see what the big deal is. Barely paid attention to the top anime list to begin with. Doesn't matter if it's first or 100th on the list,won't change my opinion of it or anything that takes it's place.

I think the point is that the SnK fans were burning with envy about that position...now finally they can be happy.
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Aug 2, 2019 2:06 AM

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What's so good about this AoT season?
Aug 2, 2019 2:08 AM

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alshu said:
Setsuei said:
I'm a FMA fan and I fail to see what the big deal is. Barely paid attention to the top anime list to begin with. Doesn't matter if it's first or 100th on the list,won't change my opinion of it or anything that takes it's place.

I think the point is that the SnK fans were burning with envy about that position...now finally they can be happy.

Good for them I guess. I like both series so even if I did pay attention to this I wouldn't be bothered either way.
Aug 2, 2019 2:09 AM
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How the fuck did that happen. Welp, steins;Gate is on no.2 so that's good.
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Oh, how the mighty has fallen. MAL start banning bots now?

Aug 2, 2019 2:12 AM

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What's so good about this AoT season?

- It's recent!
- I think they reached the basement and after some duds learned the big and highly foreshadowed secret. (A bit like FMA:B but MORE RECENT!)
Aug 2, 2019 2:15 AM

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Setsuei said:

Good for them I guess. I like both series so even if I did pay attention to this I wouldn't be bothered either way.

It's actually highly entertaining to watch those people who care for silly stuff like that.
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Lmao those aot fans are going all out, apparently. Good to know we have people who can challenge the gintama tard, in that regard.
Aug 2, 2019 2:21 AM

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alshu said:
Setsuei said:

Good for them I guess. I like both series so even if I did pay attention to this I wouldn't be bothered either way.

It's actually highly entertaining to watch those people who actually care for silly stuff like that.

Sure, it's great they care so much about there favorite series that this stuff gets them excited, in no way do I mean to look down on them. I just personally would rather focus on the stuff I'm watching more than what rank it has.
Aug 2, 2019 2:27 AM

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Pullman said:
The top 10 are always just a testament to recency bias, not much more. Feel free to completely overvalue arbitrary 0.01 or 0.02 average score differences, but that's not gonna make them any less meaningless from a neutral perspective.
It's popular rating.

This is a system where apparently Dragon Ball Z is rated higher than Serial Experiments Lain — it's hard to take it seriously.

It also wouldn't surprise me if average reviewer that rated Lain highly has a lower mean score than of F.M.A.B..


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Aug 2, 2019 2:34 AM

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OneNaughtyBear said:
What's so good about this AoT season?


It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate".

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Aug 2, 2019 2:40 AM
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Sphinxter said:
Pullman said:
The top 10 are always just a testament to recency bias, not much more. Feel free to completely overvalue arbitrary 0.01 or 0.02 average score differences, but that's not gonna make them any less meaningless from a neutral perspective.
It's popular rating.

This is a system where apparently Dragon Ball Z is rated higher than Serial Experiments Lain — it's hard to take it seriously.

It also wouldn't surprise me if average reviewer that rated Lain highly has a lower mean score than of F.M.A.B..


To be fair Serial Experiments Lain would probably go over the head of an average viewer it's more of an niche anime for few intellectual inclined.
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Sphinxter said:

Wow, this is most ingenious! Even better than those famous Code Geass plot twists.
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Xstasy said:
Sphinxter said:
It's popular rating.

This is a system where apparently Dragon Ball Z is rated higher than Serial Experiments Lain — it's hard to take it seriously.

It also wouldn't surprise me if average reviewer that rated Lain highly has a lower mean score than of F.M.A.B..


To be fair Serial Experiments Lain would probably go over the head of an average viewer it's more of an niche anime for few intellectual inclined.
>It's a popular rating

Proceeds by saying Lain should have been rated higher than DBZ.
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Ryougine said:
Xstasy said:


To be fair Serial Experiments Lain would probably go over the head of an average viewer it's more of an niche anime for few intellectual inclined.
>It's a popular rating

Proceeds by saying Lain should have been rated higher than DBZ.


I haven't said that. That is what Sphinxter said. I'm not taking credit for his work.
You replied to a wrong person.
Aug 2, 2019 2:56 AM

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I don't know why most of you guys are making a big fuss about it. So what if SnK became first and FMA: Brotherhood dropped down to 6.? After all, SnK and FMA are at the top of the list, which shows that they're the best animes. Complaining about the freaking position is so childish. It's not like they're in the Top 9000.

If it's the bot or whatsoever's business and FMA ranks 1. again, as a person who loves SnK so much, I wouldn't give a damn, the two animes are perfect after all.
Aug 2, 2019 2:59 AM
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Unexpected. Then again, as said by others, I expect it to be just MAL being MAL so it'll be back at #1 when they realise what happened. Either way, it's popcorn time until that happens and possibly even afterwards.
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Aug 2, 2019 3:09 AM

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was about time. guess the bots are going.
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is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps?
Aug 2, 2019 3:09 AM

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Maybe they removed long inactive and troll accounts.
Whenever something threatened the #1 position, fanboys were always swarming in.

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Nothing remarkable happened, as far as I'm concerned.



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Aug 2, 2019 3:31 AM

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I am so happy now!!!!!!
Not because my favorite SNK got the No.1( and I can't tell which one of my favorite should be on No.1) but for FMAB going at it's deserved position.


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Aug 2, 2019 3:35 AM
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Yeah, that kind of drop is incredibly unnatural. It's likely just a temporary glitch, probably as the dev team was working through the code (similar to what happened with ecchi anime a while back).

I've enquired about it and will keep this thread posted.

As an extra note for the future since people are throwing out the bot point, the "upbotters" and "downbotters" tend to just cancel each other out completely or cause only a very slight deviation.
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https://myanimelist.net/topanime.php

Basically since it came out, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood has dominated the top rated spot on the Top Anime page but now it is 6th!! That's almost 10 years!! FMAB is a great anime but I think it's a testament to the quality of some of the series we are seeing these days (like SNK) :))
a testament of how much people enjoy the new animes*
very different.
Aug 2, 2019 4:31 AM

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I don't know why most of you guys are making a big fuss about it. So what if SnK became first and FMA: Brotherhood dropped down to 6.? After all, SnK and FMA are at the top of the list, which shows that they're the best animes. Complaining about the freaking position is so childish. It's not like they're in the Top 9000.

If it's the bot or whatsoever's business and FMA ranks 1. again, as a person who loves SnK so much, I wouldn't give a damn, the two animes are perfect after all.

It's not that simple, sequels tend to get higher ratings than the prequel even if they're just as good as the prequel, as the sequels are mostly only watched by people who already liked the prequel. The ratings for sequels are therefore often skewed.
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melfluere said:
I don't know why most of you guys are making a big fuss about it. So what if SnK became first and FMA: Brotherhood dropped down to 6.? After all, SnK and FMA are at the top of the list, which shows that they're the best animes. Complaining about the freaking position is so childish. It's not like they're in the Top 9000.

If it's the bot or whatsoever's business and FMA ranks 1. again, as a person who loves SnK so much, I wouldn't give a damn, the two animes are perfect after all.

It's not that simple, sequels tend to get higher ratings than the prequel even if they're just as good as the prequel, as the sequels are mostly only watched by people who already liked the prequel. The ratings for sequels are therefore often skewed.
The 30.000 gintama seasons in the top 50 prove this pretty clearly; what's your point exactly...? I don't really see the correlation between your answer and the post you answered to, to be honest
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Sai-B said:
melfluere said:
I don't know why most of you guys are making a big fuss about it. So what if SnK became first and FMA: Brotherhood dropped down to 6.? After all, SnK and FMA are at the top of the list, which shows that they're the best animes. Complaining about the freaking position is so childish. It's not like they're in the Top 9000.

If it's the bot or whatsoever's business and FMA ranks 1. again, as a person who loves SnK so much, I wouldn't give a damn, the two animes are perfect after all.

It's not that simple, sequels tend to get higher ratings than the prequel even if they're just as good as the prequel, as the sequels are mostly only watched by people who already liked the prequel. The ratings for sequels are therefore often skewed.
On the flip side, FMA:B greatly benefits from the 1/5th rule. Very convenient as Brotherhood's weakest moments are in its first 12 episodes. It's almost like a rite of passage since it's around episode 14 that things really take off and FMA:B shows its true colors.
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Maybe someone pointed this out, but the number of votes dropped from about 900 000 to 800 000, however the stats page haven't changed.
Aug 2, 2019 5:57 AM
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Meanwhile fmab fans busy making fake account to boost it up
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Kurgo said:
Sai-B said:

It's not that simple, sequels tend to get higher ratings than the prequel even if they're just as good as the prequel, as the sequels are mostly only watched by people who already liked the prequel. The ratings for sequels are therefore often skewed.
The 30.000 gintama seasons in the top 50 prove this pretty clearly; what's your point exactly...? I don't really see the correlation between your answer and the post you answered to, to be honest

He wrote: "After all, SnK and FMA are at the top of the list, which shows that they're the best animes."
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I bet it’s going to regain its previous position in less than a week.
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Aug 2, 2019 6:01 AM
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FMAB is no longer #1 on MAL?

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The salt when it is fixed by tomorrow would be priceless.
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I think this this most likely a bug/glitch, something similar to what happened with One Punch Man a few months ago, where it got its score a lot higher all of a sudden, boosting its ranking from #46 to #22, before going back to its usual ranking place once again. Even in that case, the score of all the other anime remained the same like it is here.

Losing 0.14 rating points within a day sound literally absurd for an anime with such a huge viewerbase and no. of votes.
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