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Jul 7, 6:45 AM

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2ego said:
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Wait am I actually the only one thoroughly disappointed? The animation is not nearly as good as it was hyped to be, the Zoro slash looked so stupid, background is always super stale, it's JUST colourful. I don't get why people are excited. Zoro slashing all the guards was like the worst fight sequence in One Piece. I don't want to spread negativity, but I was really hyped for this arc.


Is it that hard to differ good animation from bad? The animation this episode was IN FACT, GOOD, yet you're calling it bad? There's nothing subjective in good animation, it's just there. The subjective part is the new artstyle.


Yeah... whatever. I suppose One Piece fans are so used to terrible animation that this is great for them.

Run with the Wind is criminally underrated.
 
Jul 7, 6:51 AM

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franxz said:
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Is it that hard to differ good animation from bad? The animation this episode was IN FACT, GOOD, yet you're calling it bad? There's nothing subjective in good animation, it's just there. The subjective part is the new artstyle.


Yeah... whatever. I suppose One Piece fans are so used to terrible animation that this is great for them.


Now that's a rude thing to say. I've finished more than three times more TV animes than you, including nearly every single long-running shounen, the animation this episode is GOOD. Your eyes are unfortunately the substandard ones, unable to distinguish good from bad animation. Don't attempt to justify yourself or try to blame others, that will only further dig your grave. Fellow Lietuvi, ha-ha.
 
Jul 7, 6:55 AM

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it was so refreshing I couldn't believe my eyes for a while, I don't mind having this arc for two straight years but without dragging it.

Character design is just perfect favs so far Robin > Ussop >Luffy> Zoro
we also seen Luffy design in the op.



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Aside from the classic opening scene, was this really One Piece? Changes were announced and we all expected them. Other arcs also showcased a certain flair at the beginning. However, Wano raised the bar damn high. The shift in style and tone exceeded all I could've hoped for. I love how the staff breathed life into this with an authentic note. We barely entered this arc, but this episode showed already the tremendous potential. And it's not just atmosphere and style that changed, the production value went also up. Pacing seems quite good as well and they ended exactly where it made the most sense.

5/5 episode There was so much I adored, even tho I have to admit that Zoros part was low-key the highlight. Wano hype is real and the weeks of " suffering" were worth it xD

Also cool new opening, song isn't my among my favorites, but the visuals are fire.
My thoughts in a nutshell... 5/5
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Jul 7, 7:10 AM

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I just did some research and it seems Shenlong has always been azure(blue) color.

The spiritual dragons are azure-scaled and govern the wind, clouds and rain, on which all agricultural life depends.[1][2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenlong

Thanks to Dragon Ball, I always thought Shenlong is always green color but it turn out in the original Chinese mythology, Shenlong is supposedly azure/blue color. Kaido's dragon form seems base on Shenlong so it makes senes for it to be azure/blue color rather than green.
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Jul 7, 7:11 AM

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2ego said:
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Yeah... whatever. I suppose One Piece fans are so used to terrible animation that this is great for them.


Now that's a rude thing to say. I've finished more than three times more TV animes than you, including nearly every single long-running shounen, the animation this episode is GOOD. Your eyes are unfortunately the substandard ones, unable to distinguish good from bad animation. Don't attempt to justify yourself or try to blame others, that will only further dig your grave. Fellow Lietuvi, ha-ha.


The amount of time spent watching at the monitor doesn't really indicate how well you perceive things presented to you. It just looks colourful. Idk what more to say other than repeating myself.

>Don't attempt to justify yourself or try to blame others, that will only further dig your grave.
Where do I even blame anyone? Why are you implying that my "grave" is being dug? Do you actually think that me expressing my negative opinion on this episode will somehow make my life or internet experience worse?

Run with the Wind is criminally underrated.
 
Jul 7, 7:23 AM

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To be fair animation didn't really seem particularly different for this episode at least to me. Maybe my eyes just not so good anymore.
 
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Now that's a rude thing to say. I've finished more than three times more TV animes than you, including nearly every single long-running shounen, the animation this episode is GOOD. Your eyes are unfortunately the substandard ones, unable to distinguish good from bad animation. Don't attempt to justify yourself or try to blame others, that will only further dig your grave. Fellow Lietuvi, ha-ha.


The amount of time spent watching at the monitor doesn't really indicate how well you perceive things presented to you. It just looks colourful. Idk what more to say other than repeating myself.

>Don't attempt to justify yourself or try to blame others, that will only further dig your grave.
Where do I even blame anyone? Why are you implying that my "grave" is being dug? Do you actually think that me expressing my negative opinion on this episode will somehow make my life or internet experience worse?


Experience does equate to you being able to differ small details such as animation better. The exception is: if the person is naturally untalented, rather than being normal in that field. My eyes are actually keen, always have been, I'm able to notice small details about animation, artstyle, quality, etc. You are free to have a negative opinion, the whole point of my replies were to refute your statement "Bad animation," since that's just false. Nothing more.
 
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2ego said:
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The amount of time spent watching at the monitor doesn't really indicate how well you perceive things presented to you. It just looks colourful. Idk what more to say other than repeating myself.

>Don't attempt to justify yourself or try to blame others, that will only further dig your grave.
Where do I even blame anyone? Why are you implying that my "grave" is being dug? Do you actually think that me expressing my negative opinion on this episode will somehow make my life or internet experience worse?


Experience does equate to you being able to differ small details such as animation better. The exception is: if the person is naturally untalented, rather than being normal in that field. My eyes are actually keen, always have been, I'm able to notice small details about animation, artstyle, quality, etc. You are free to have a negative opinion, the whole point of my replies were to refute your statement "Bad animation," since that's just false. Nothing more.


Small details like ordinary still background characters, talking heads, as little movement as possible to be considered an animation? That sequence where Zoro cut the murdered with haki looked just bad.

Run with the Wind is criminally underrated.
 
Jul 7, 7:46 AM

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Zoro isn't the best guy for an undercover mission.
 
Jul 7, 7:50 AM

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franxz said:
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Experience does equate to you being able to differ small details such as animation better. The exception is: if the person is naturally untalented, rather than being normal in that field. My eyes are actually keen, always have been, I'm able to notice small details about animation, artstyle, quality, etc. You are free to have a negative opinion, the whole point of my replies were to refute your statement "Bad animation," since that's just false. Nothing more.


Small details like ordinary still background characters, talking heads, as little movement as possible to be considered an animation? That sequence where Zoro cut the murdered with haki looked just bad.


It looked bad to you, the animation was still, good, the reason it looked bad to you was because even objective things can look bad to someone, as visuality is unfortunately entirely subjective.
 
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2ego said:
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Small details like ordinary still background characters, talking heads, as little movement as possible to be considered an animation? That sequence where Zoro cut the murdered with haki looked just bad.


It looked bad to you, the animation was still, good, the reason it looked bad to you was because even objective things can look bad to someone, as visuality is unfortunately entirely subjective.


I don't know how you can consider this bad, unless your standards for anime are Redline or something

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Jul 7, 8:07 AM

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Wait am I actually the only one thoroughly disappointed? The animation is not nearly as good as it was hyped to be, the Zoro slash looked so stupid, background is always super stale, it's JUST colourful. I don't get why people are excited. Zoro slashing all the guards was like the worst fight sequence in One Piece. I don't want to spread negativity, but I was really hyped for this arc.


Dw you are not spreading any negativity, just stupidity :)
 
Jul 7, 8:35 AM

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This is what we all have been waiting for, even though some of y’all wasn’t expecting this! But finally it is here
The music and animation was just so satisfying. Nico robin as Geisha and the scene where Zoro shows off his gorgeous muscles it’s just a cherry on the top. The new director did a great job, so happy!
 
Jul 7, 8:37 AM

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It's so weird seeing the One Piece anime look good
 
Jul 7, 9:05 AM

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By the way, what happened with the non-late night anime censorship in this episode?
Did I miss any updated legislation clauses in Japan regarding broadcasting?

Because I wasn't expecting watching Zoro's cutting down a bunch of samurai with blood flying everywhere, at least not after the 2006's censorship clauses having being established (you will notice a several reduction of violence in every single anime that airs before night by that year and above, especially the morning ones).
 
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cmon lmao the guy's just stating his opinion.. however I think I know what he means.. he said that there's very little movement in the background.. but,

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Small details like ordinary still background characters, talking heads, as little movement as possible to be considered an animation? That sequence where Zoro cut the murdered with haki looked just bad.
as a 900 episodes series, having stills aren't as bad, when it's used on the bystander as a sort of stylistic choice (making the best of its situation). The actual animation on the Zoro action is amazing, and the episode overall was well directed for the most part, hence making the animation (or the lack thereof) flaws well covered. This is like what I've heard studio Shaft does, the quick cutscenes that they do save them money/time on animating everything. Even well known studio like Madhouse cut corners like that too.

Oh and the anime in your avatar does that as well. Remember the infamous 3 frames per second stair scene? And that anime only had like 30 episodes out, compared to a massive project like One Piece.

As a huge fan, I've been critical of the series animation for quite a long time, however, there's the dragged out boring looking version of stills like the colosseum spectators in Dressrosa in the anime vs this episode where the focus was on the scenery of a newly introduced arc as well as the actual said important characters on screen.

Also, saying that the part where Zoro cut the murderer looked bad is subjective. The animation itself is fine.. though I do think it could've had more of an impact, BUT, it is also probably a stylistic choice of going with the flow of the shamisen and not overdo the "badassness" that we got from reading the manga.
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franxz said:
Wait am I actually the only one thoroughly disappointed? The animation is not nearly as good as it was hyped to be, the Zoro slash looked so stupid, background is always super stale, it's JUST colourful. I don't get why people are excited. Zoro slashing all the guards was like the worst fight sequence in One Piece. I don't want to spread negativity, but I was really hyped for this arc.


lol what are you talking about are you blind?

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Come back when you have watched more anime so you can know what good animation is and what bad animation is
 
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It's really a good episode finally onepiece back to it's golden era ! easy 10/10 for me. It's slow episode but it's really enjoyable i hope they keep it up in the future episode
 
Jul 7, 10:34 AM

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Holy Shit....new OP is awesome, new style is great. new promos, new everything.

Why couldn't the whole series be at this level?!?!
 
Jul 7, 10:37 AM

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What the hell is going on, I noticed previously that the flashbacks had much better coloring being done, and now that we're in Wano suddenly the quality upped gigantically over fucking garbage big mom arc, I wonder how long they'll keep this production value for, I hope it keeps going cause it really is incredible.
 
Jul 7, 10:47 AM

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So how many spoilers will you put on the opening theme for this anime?

Toei Animation : Yes
 
Jul 7, 10:49 AM

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This neither looks nor sounds like regular One Piece. I love it!
 
Jul 7, 10:51 AM

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Wait am I actually the only one thoroughly disappointed? The animation is not nearly as good as it was hyped to be, the Zoro slash looked so stupid, background is always super stale, it's JUST colourful. I don't get why people are excited. Zoro slashing all the guards was like the worst fight sequence in One Piece. I don't want to spread negativity, but I was really hyped for this arc.
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Jul 7, 12:13 PM

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I'm so fucking hyped, I really hope that the anime goes back to its good old days. The opening was amazing and the eyecatchers melody finally changed to represent the overall aesthetics of Wano Kuni.

The slash wasn't as great as I pictured it, but damn, the Zoro fight scene had that Samurai Champloo vibe.
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Jul 7, 12:26 PM

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More than the animation itself, it is a change in art style. For me it is good this way.
To be honest I was not expecting a film quality in a weekly show, but it definitively looks really good (At this point they would never reach the animation quality of Thriller bark, because that thing was over the top).

By the way, as a manga reader I would not recommend you (anime only) guys to watch the opening. It spoils everything the manga has showed and even beyond that, which may kill the hype for some.
 
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Good episode. I enjoyed the new starting. Despite the spoiler warnings of the opening, the only ones saying that are the ones who've already read the manga. I watch the anime only and see absolutely nothing in the starting that gave anything away.

One Piece have been notorious for spoiling in the opening though. The first and craziest one was when they showed Robin on the crew when she was still a bad guy. LOL. I was like WTFFFF O.O
 
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By the way, as a manga reader I would not recommend you (anime only) guys to watch the opening. It spoils everything the manga has showed and even beyond that, which may kill the hype for some.


Am I the only non manga reader that wasn't spoiled by the starting? I saw people fighting but how could it spoil if I have no clue who they are?

As I said in a previous post, One Piece have definitely spoiled in the past but I didn't notice anything from this one.
 
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As I said in a previous post, One Piece have definitely spoiled in the past but I didn't notice anything from this one.


In about two episodes you will know why I am saying this is one of the most spoiler-ish One Piece openings.
It shows major points of the plot.
 
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its not look like one piece,

really amazing episode 5/5

I guess, it was very suitable for the Zoro sword to be given such an effect. because if not then it would be strange, if Zoro slashed the blood buffalo. because basically, anime-only is usually for ordinary people. so for me there is no problem in adding effects to the sword.
 
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Pakumen- said:
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As I said in a previous post, One Piece have definitely spoiled in the past but I didn't notice anything from this one.


In about two episodes you will know why I am saying this is one of the most spoiler-ish One Piece openings.
It shows major points of the plot.


I am actually responding without reading what you wrote, LOL

I'm sure that it will contain a spoiler or information that I'll regret seeing. I'm done with this thread LOL. I can unfortunately get spoiled by hints easily and will skip the starting as I can't recall it after seeing it once. Later and thanks if you didn't spoil.
 
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What is this i'm seeing? Blood? in one piece? Hope this arc keeps this quality until the end!!!
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I was waiting that Zoro show us his truth power since the training of 2 years and it is coming... that was amazing... also I think that the opening battle of luffy vs kaido spoiled me the entire arc wtf
 
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The people who read the manga, everything was spoiled in the opening...????? I'm so sad... :(
 
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The people who read the manga, everything was spoiled in the opening...????? I'm so sad... :(


No, it wasn't. Some things have been spoiled, but mostly the visual things have been spoiled. Don't worry.
 
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Even though it still isn't as good as the manga , THIS is a major step-up for the One Piece anime and I'm very glad they did it 5/5 . Opening song is catchy as well though it has many spoilers (btw why tf does Queen have blond hair??)

Do Crabs have the haki on Wano? 😂 (20:53)
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Man everything about this episode was great. I really like the new opening, but jeez it had a bunch of spoilers. Nevertheless I can’t wait to see the upcoming episodes!
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The animation was on another level, just as shown in the preview trailer we saw a month before. Wow, that was some good animation. I like his style. First of all, the usage of blood is much higher which makes logical sense. You can't just cut someone without any blood spoilage. Secondly, I like how he use a picture while the dialogue is still going on. This is a new way of animate One Piece no director have used before in the series.

The arc had a great start. Ofc, Zoro is the first one to start a fight. Just what I expected. LOL, that's so typical Zoro. Hahah. Apropos Zoro and his performing of sekkupu, couldn't he used make a tiny spot of busoshoku haki on his stomach and coat the dagger with haki too? By doing so, maybe could avoid the situation of fighting the samurai's. On the other hand, this technique could may be too cheap for the leader (slasher-san) to buy. This is hard to believe, judging by their reaction, when they had no clue of Haki.

All in all, a good quality ep. we deserved after all these flashbacks. I loved every min. of the ep. Good work director!
 
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Good episode. I enjoyed the new starting. Despite the spoiler warnings of the opening, the only ones saying that are the ones who've already read the manga. I watch the anime only and see absolutely nothing in the starting that gave anything away.

One Piece have been notorious for spoiling in the opening though. The first and craziest one was when they showed Robin on the crew when she was still a bad guy. LOL. I was like WTFFFF O.O


Yeah, I remember that. It was on Alabasta arc. The arc was halfway through when they showed Robin on Going Merry. LOL
 
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I remember this scene from the old spiderman from 2002. Haha, so funny scene. I LMAO when I first saw this. hahaah

 
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Long time ago since I was so hyped just from seeing an OP + the actual first episode of the arc. The animation looks absolute gorgeous. The whole style is on another level. Also the atmosphere and the music in the background makes it very special.

I don't know if it was just me, but to see Zoro, Robin, Franky and Usopp again after such a long time is also something if waited for. :)

The OP was overwhelming. So much spoilers were to see which hyped me even more, like the transformation of Kaido. OMFG.

Poor Zoro. First episode and he gets suspected as murder and has to commit Seppuku xD
Even if the fight was totally onesided, also here I loved the animation. If they can keep it up like that it could become one of the best arcs if not the best arc.
 
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I'm in the verge of tears, what an incredible episode, the direction, the artstyle, the music, even the choreography of the fight, so good 5/5.
 
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Damn! The art visuals are on sky high, I'm really impressed by Toei and I hope they won't change. Oda should be proud for how great the anime is looking, Kaido versus Luffy should be super fire!!

I wasn't even concentrated on the episode plot the way the visuals were so beautiful.
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The visuals were so good I thought I was watching something from David Productions.
 
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That Opening is absolute perfection.

I'm weirdly enough -yet legitimately so- in the verge of tears of happiness and repeating it non-stop.


The adaptation also flowed SO MUCH better even when they still added original content all around. This arc may as well be the best arc of this entire anime if it keeps going like this.

I still have some issues with how the conversation between Franky and the carpenter chief was slowed down (and Zoro's arrest and seppuku sequences taking a bit too long), but that is a nitpick compared with all the other scenes and their respective transitions.

5/5


Compared to the agonizing reverie arc in the anime and dragged out katakuri fight in WCI and the CAAAKKEEEE!!, this is a new gold standard honestly and anime only viewers you have no idea how important this arc is and the over Japanese feel is sure to be welcomed and delightful for people that wan't something different and unique to look forward to.



 
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If they keep up the quality throughout the whole arc i'm gonna be so happy!
 
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Damn the Wano arc starting off with a bang, The Opening was perfect and the animation is so damn crispy!! We finally see Zoro in action yay!!!!
Also the mid episode intervals have been revamped too. Cant wait for more!!!
 
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This is awesome! This is like Naruto, Gintama and One Piece all together.

 
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Holy Shit....new OP is awesome, new style is great. new promos, new everything.

Why couldn't the whole series be at this level?!?!

Because it's not a popular show so they don't get enough money nor ratings from it.
... oh wait


Anyway gorgeous episode.

Not only the drawings and animation. But the color scheme for every scene and the artistic direction was on point.

It was a pleasure watching the introduction scene and the one were Zoro was about to commit Seppuku, the guitar play was very harmonious and well place during the whole scene.
 
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Wow the animation in this episode was superb. Loved seeing the rest of the Strawhats after so long. I believe it's been more than a 100 episodes since we last saw them all together. Episode no 776 was the time they all decided to split, with half the crew going on to rescue Sanji and the other half going to Wano.
 
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This went above and beyond my expectations. It was simply beautiful! The art, the animation, the music, the voice acting, the little in-canon filler, just amazing!
 
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