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Jul 5, 4:51 PM

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Hatsuyuki said:
Masterful execution of the fight by the anime staff. I'm sure the fight itself has a deeper meaning & symbolism. Truly an episode worthy of being called the climax of the series.


Diavolo thinks only the results matter, hence King Crimson skipping to the moment that Diavolo does something and ignoring everything else in-between.

Giorno asserts that his teammates' actions on the way to the moment he got the arrow have equal or more meaning than the results, hence GER being able to negate the skip and force Diavolo to deal with the build-up.

Vento Aureo is probably more of a conflict of ideology and themes than any character driven story, honestly, because from a character perspective, this confrontation between Giorno and Diavolo is a bit flat.

PedroBV96 said:
When the king of time was about to leave a crimson rake, god came with a requiem to make it all fake.
Despite being more anticipated, this feels even cheaper than the moment when Jotaro stopped time.
On the other hand, this proves how Polpo's test had no tension at all.
And from my viewpoint, it's the final evidence of how the protagonist was favored by the plot from the beginning.

Note apart, Bruno's final departure could have been way more impactful if it was done when he actually died.


There is no indication that Polpo's arrow would have given Giorno GER at that time. This is a different arrow and furthermore, we saw GE get pierced by the arrow while fighting Black Sabbath. He didn't have the motivation to achieve Requiem at that moment.
 
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First, RIP Bucciarati. Even though I don't think his death was supposed to be sad (not at least in the same way than Narancia and Abbacchio at least), it was still heartbreaking seeing my favorite main character of this Part (and from JoJo in general) dying. The fact that he was technically dead all this time after Venice arc may have helped to accept his death. Hopefully eternal happiness awaits you in Heaven, best capo.

Second, I know lot of people disliked this fight in the manga, but I liked it myself, and the anime made it better. Diavolo's monologues and breakdown were on point, the animation was good and GER's OP mindfuck powers in motion were a sight to behold . GER's talking was just great.

Third, waiting these three weeks for the last episode is not going to be easy. Both for the waiting and because it will be time to say goodbye to Vento Aureo. I have liked all the animes of JoJo (the ones DavidPro has made at least), but this may easily be my favorite one of them all. I have spended so many good times all those months with it, that telling farewell to it will be hard. I hope DavidPro gives us a version of Fighting Gold or Uragirimono no Requiem sung by all the JoJo singers as a final gift, but in the case it doesn't happens, I wouldn't mind, as they have done a great job adapting this Part.
 
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Hobgoblin2099 said:

There is no indication that Polpo's arrow would have given Giorno GER at that time. This is a different arrow and furthermore, we saw GE get pierced by the arrow while fighting Black Sabbath. He didn't have the motivation to achieve Requiem at that moment.

I wasn't meaning that it would activate the requiem or not, but that Giorno wouldn't die if the arrow Black Sabbath had would have pierced him, since he already had Gold Experience. This is someting confirmed in the previous part when Kira was pierced by the arrow his ghost father had.
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PedroBV96 said:
Hobgoblin2099 said:

There is no indication that Polpo's arrow would have given Giorno GER at that time. This is a different arrow and furthermore, we saw GE get pierced by the arrow while fighting Black Sabbath. He didn't have the motivation to achieve Requiem at that moment.

I wasn't meaning that it would activate the requiem or not, but that Giorno wouldn't die if the arrow Black Sabbath had would have pierced him, since he already had Gold Experience. This is someting confirmed in the previous part when Kira was pierced by the arrow his ghost father had.

The arrow would kill giorno it was hurting him the arrow choose kira that was different
 
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Because of how broken King Crimson is, Araki has to create an even more OP and broken stand just to defeats King Crimson in the final arc.

The same thing he did to Star Platinum, by giving it the ability to stops time in order to defeats DIO.

 
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The arrow would kill giorno it was hurting him the arrow choose kira that was different

Because this present arrow didn't left him a hole in the torax before getting the requiem. And different arrows excuse nothing.
 
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KotarouDL said:
Because of how broken King Crimson is, Araki has to create an even more OP and broken stand just to defeats King Crimson in the final arc.

The same thing he did to Star Platinum, by giving it the ability to stops time in order to defeats DIO.

One question: Which of the two moments you felt cheaper from your viewpoint?
 
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PedroBV96 said:
KotarouDL said:
Because of how broken King Crimson is, Araki has to create an even more OP and broken stand just to defeats King Crimson in the final arc.

The same thing he did to Star Platinum, by giving it the ability to stops time in order to defeats DIO.

One question: Which of the two moments you felt cheaper from your viewpoint?

It's hard for me to say, but I would say it's definitely Jotaro's moment
After DIO said: "So your stand is the same type of stand as I am" or something like that, Jotaro just go: "So that's mean I can stop time like you eh?" and BAM! Jotaro got his ability to stop time right at the end of the arc out of NOWHERE!

Giorno is a little different because of the arrow, he actually accomplished something so he deserves the requiem buff.

That's just me though, correct me if I'm wrong.

 
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KotarouDL said:


It's hard for me to say, but I would say it's definitely Jotaro's moment
After DIO said: "So your stand is the same type of stand as I am" or something like that, Jotaro just go: "So that's mean I can stop time like you eh?" and BAM! Jotaro got his ability to stop time right at the end of the arc out of NOWHERE!

Giorno is a little different because of the arrow, he actually accomplished something so he deserves the requiem buff.

That's just me though, correct me if I'm wrong.

First of all, the one who said "So your stand is the same type of stand as I am" was Jotaro, and the one who said something like "So that's mean I can stop time like you eh?" was DIO when he realized Jotaro stopped time.

And of course, it won't be just you, but in fact most who will think this way and have an actual reason for it.

Now, from my viewpoint, I feel Gold Experience Requiem cheaper because although is presented as an asspull, by giving Star Platinum the exact same power as The World, technically Araki putted Jotaro on equal foot with DIO. The case of Giorno on the other hand is that, despite being actually anticipated, Gold Experience became practically a god, being able to undo King Crimson's power.
 
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PedroBV96 said:
KotarouDL said:
Because of how broken King Crimson is, Araki has to create an even more OP and broken stand just to defeats King Crimson in the final arc.

The same thing he did to Star Platinum, by giving it the ability to stops time in order to defeats DIO.

One question: Which of the two moments you felt cheaper from your viewpoint?


Jotaro.

That said, Jotaro learning how to move in stopped time didn't lead to an instant win. He had to build up to the win, and DIO still slapped him around.

Here Giorno got the arrow and then Diavolo instantly gets rekt.
 
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Hobgoblin2099 said:

Jotaro.

That said, Jotaro learning how to move in stopped time didn't lead to an instant win. He had to build up to the win, and DIO still slapped him around.

Here Giorno got the arrow and then Diavolo instantly gets rekt.

This is another way to put it. I never felt like Giorno had to build up to the win, he simply needed to get the arrow and be done with Diavolo.
 
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PedroBV96 said:
KotarouDL said:


It's hard for me to say, but I would say it's definitely Jotaro's moment
After DIO said: "So your stand is the same type of stand as I am" or something like that, Jotaro just go: "So that's mean I can stop time like you eh?" and BAM! Jotaro got his ability to stop time right at the end of the arc out of NOWHERE!

Giorno is a little different because of the arrow, he actually accomplished something so he deserves the requiem buff.

That's just me though, correct me if I'm wrong.

First of all, the one who said "So your stand is the same type of stand as I am" was Jotaro, and the one who said something like "So that's mean I can stop time like you eh?" was DIO when he realized Jotaro stopped time.

And of course, it won't be just you, but in fact most who will think this way and have an actual reason for it.

Now, from my viewpoint, I feel Gold Experience Requiem cheaper because although is presented as an asspull, by giving Star Platinum the exact same power as The World, technically Araki putted Jotaro on equal foot with DIO. The case of Giorno on the other hand is that, despite being actually anticipated, Gold Experience became practically a god, being able to undo King Crimson's power.

Well you got a point, I felt the same thing too.

Araki basically wrote himself into the corner, so he has to do something to get himself out of the mess that is King Crimson. It's not like he has any choice though, he need to finishs his manga and he decided to use a similar method as part 3.

 
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well bucharati descended ..... nice Giorno became the all powerful...hmmm can not wait for the finale
 
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KotarouDL said:
PedroBV96 said:

First of all, the one who said "So your stand is the same type of stand as I am" was Jotaro, and the one who said something like "So that's mean I can stop time like you eh?" was DIO when he realized Jotaro stopped time.

And of course, it won't be just you, but in fact most who will think this way and have an actual reason for it.

Now, from my viewpoint, I feel Gold Experience Requiem cheaper because although is presented as an asspull, by giving Star Platinum the exact same power as The World, technically Araki putted Jotaro on equal foot with DIO. The case of Giorno on the other hand is that, despite being actually anticipated, Gold Experience became practically a god, being able to undo King Crimson's power.


Araki basically wrote himself into the corner, so he has to do something to get himself out of the mess that is King Crimson. It's not like he has any choice though, he need to finishs his manga and he decided to use a similar method as part 3.



This is way different than that of part 3 (which I do consider the biggest convenience of all JoJo). This is actually more like how Kira got his 3rd bomb. The arrow can be as useless as how useful it can be. It works depending on what the user is going through.

As an example, imagine if Bruno were about to get pierced by this arrow while being really hungry and he wanted to eat pizza, so his stand would get a power up regarding pizza. You can also say that one of SCR's abilities was to get the Arrow far from the wrong hands no matter what.

I won't deny its incredibly broken and convenient. But at least, it didn't came out of nowhere like in Part 3.

Stands in Part 6 and 7 are more balanced and have an actual growth (although both parts have really powerful stands), so brace yourselves because it only gets better from now on :D
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Godly episode. This is my favorite moment in the series.
 
Jul 5, 7:13 PM

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Jotaro is Gary Stu of JoJo. Deal with it.

Everything important seen by him can be mastered by Jotaro himself in an instant, even if he has almost zero knowledge on that (i.e. fight with D'Arby the younger).

If Giorno was his enemy, I bet Jotaro would find a way to defeat him. Bah, what I am talking about: he would activate Star Platinum Requiem even without this special arrow, with full control over it of course. xD

Jonathan and Giorno have a lot elements typical for Gary Stu-like characters, but Jotaro is way ahead of them in that materia.
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Am I the only one thought this was the weakest part since 1?
 
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This is pure kino.
 
Jul 5, 7:31 PM
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Such a good episode, can't wait to see what happens in the hour-long special
 
Jul 5, 7:40 PM

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It's still sad even if we all knew Bruno is going to be dead :(

Gold Experience Requiem just hit Diavolo, should that be the end?
That's totally should be the end since Golden Experience Requiem power is just OP

2 episodes left, I hope no abrupt ending like the original
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Jul 5, 7:52 PM

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Golden FUCKING REQUIEM is here!! Diavolo gonna be catching more of these hands when the 1-hour long finale airs at the end of this month.
 
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Can't believe Bucciarati is gone, I will miss him! I wanted him to be with Trish at the end, even if this show wasn't about romance. That Golden experience's requiem was awesome, Crimson never stood a chance.

Great episode!
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What was wrong with the OST used? Fierce Fight was timed so fucking perfectly with the unveiling of Gio from the cloud, Gio's theme when GE cracked open to reveal GER's eye was UNF too. Also there WERE new themes, the choir for Bruno ascending and the orchestral arrange of Diavolo's theme when he tried to make his counter-attack are new tracks. The OST worked super well this episode.


Bruno ascending theme was used at least in episode 16 and 21.
Normally, one would expect a "Gold Experience Requiem" ost. Something specifically made for his reveal moment.


Who the fuck cares if it fits that well
 
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This episode is so crazy, it definitely much better than the manga . I wonder how good the last episode gonna be since they got 3 week left maybe they can polish the last episode .
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TFW we will never reach the ending for 3 weeks.


 
Jul 5, 9:37 PM

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R E Q U I E M B O I S

We finally see it adapted, and the iconic panel with GER looks beautiful in the anime. The episode was cool and definitively the Bucciarati scene was epic. He is my favorite JoBro so far (haven´t met Gyro yet).

We are one episode but three weeks long. I can only hope for a better ending since the manga just ends all of a sudden. And maybe if we are lucky, a teaser for Stone Ocean.

 
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Golden Wind Requiem debuts in all of his glory!
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The art is on top, music is great, but everyone facial expressions is too excessive. Minimal progression of story. Too much self explanatory even i hardly understand. Bucirrati supposed to dead at the first time. GER and Giorno is flying lol, laser shit carry both power and life. Remind me super Saiyan. No need requiem to kill him, just team together and fight him alone, he is so scary to fight them at when they together.

I always have a thought, why diavolo always blame his daughter for just exist? Why he don't kill everyone when he is in trish at Colloseum? Seems like he can control trish movement by moving trish stand (i lol the first time know this stupid fact)?

We don't even know the weakness diavolo until now. For example how long he can skip time, and how much time he need to activate skill again after using it.
 
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GERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!

This episode was fucking awesome and I can't wait for the finale to come out.
 
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And finally what I consider to be the worst part of part 5 has been animated, props to dp for making this more enjoyable than the manga.
 
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The artwork is beautiful. It is as though it is out of this world.
 
Jul 6, 12:56 AM

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I'm going to miss Bruno T__________T

Who won't? He was one of the best characters in this part and in my opinion, in entire Jojo so far
 
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Awesome episode.The way Golden Experience Requeim happened awesome,simply lovely,music and OST also fits well.

Also RIP Buccarati,you are one of the greatest characters.





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Oh god, the visuals look better every single episode, I love it.
One downside though, I feel like I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't like the SFX versions of JoJo OPs. I'm sorry, I think they make it way worse
 
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Diavolo chooses to run at Giorno instead of using his powers.
Then he chooses to attack his stand instead of the user.
Giorno's stand no longer reverses damage.
The shot of Bucciarati with the cherubs is the kitschiest thing I've seen in JoJo.
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To those that say this felt cheaper than Jotaro pulling a [Same Type of Stand], I completely disagree. Gio might've curbstomped Diavolo with GER but have you forgotten just how much they had to fight to get the arrow in the first place over the past few eps? The race for the arrow more than justifies this victory since they had to fight tooth and nail to retrieve it and even lost Narancia and Bruno along the way. Imo that's WAY less cheap than how Jotaro got his Stand upgrade. I love part 3 to bits but the people who say Araki wrote himself into a corner are kinda stupid, considering the Requiem arrow was brought in like 8 episodes ago and it was said numerous times that whoever manages to obtain the arrow will win.

It's not even like Gio just somehow managed to chance upon the arrow and therefore Diavolo got rekt, there was a constant back-and-forth between him having the arrow and the group trying to get it away from him. I'd say the group put up more than enough of a fight for the arrow's payoff to feel earned rather than something that was done since Araki was out of ideas, plus GER symbolically and thematically fit perfectly as a hard-counter to everything Diavolo stood for. It's pretty much what the stand-evolution from part 3 that Jotaro had should've been like in almost every way.

It's NOT an asspull if there's actual buildup and foreshadowing to it, you can say to you it didn't feel satisfying but that's an entirely different and subjective thing. Stop overusing buzzwords you don't know the meaning of.
 
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Jotaro is Gary Stu of JoJo. Deal with it.

Everything important seen by him can be mastered by Jotaro himself in an instant, even if he has almost zero knowledge on that (i.e. fight with D'Arby the younger).

If Giorno was his enemy, I bet Jotaro would find a way to defeat him. Bah, what I am talking about: he would activate Star Platinum Requiem even without this special arrow, with full control over it of course. xD

Jonathan and Giorno have a lot elements typical for Gary Stu-like characters, but Jotaro is way ahead of them in that materia.

Tbh I wouldn't call either a gary stu, it's an overused term to boot. Maybe in part 3 I can understand that with Jotaro since he did happen to just be a glorified cool guy for most of it, but I seriously like how Jotaro feels more like a mellowed-out dad sorta guy from part 4 onwards and especially in

Gio also isn't a stu in the least since he had to earn his way to get to his position, he didn't earn all the gang's trust simply by existing and whenever he's had to win them he's had to do so by directly putting himself and sometimes the others in danger, leading to moments where he genuinely fucks up and has to pay for the consequences instead of magically making everything all and well. I think Araki did a fantastic job of making him surprisingly balanced, despite how OP GE could potentially be since it's also a healer Stand, Gio really faltered since Diavolo managed to kill his comrades before he even had the chance.
 
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Adnash93 said:
Jotaro is Gary Stu of JoJo. Deal with it.

Everything important seen by him can be mastered by Jotaro himself in an instant, even if he has almost zero knowledge on that (i.e. fight with D'Arby the younger).

If Giorno was his enemy, I bet Jotaro would find a way to defeat him. Bah, what I am talking about: he would activate Star Platinum Requiem even without this special arrow, with full control over it of course. xD

Jonathan and Giorno have a lot elements typical for Gary Stu-like characters, but Jotaro is way ahead of them in that materia.

In my viewpoint, I consider Giorno to be the actual Gary Stu of Jojo.
 
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So we're finally done with this part, as the last 2 episodes are essentially filler with the stone arc that Araki pushed in the last moment.

Atleast we're done with this part. David Production did an amazing job, but sadly it was the worst part up to date due to Araki's writing. Diavolo was the worst main antagonist, and Giorno didn't even feel like a Jojo unlike the previous 4. Most of the main cast were badly written, and only Bruno felt like a real character every once in a while.

Hopefully part 6 is better, although knowing its original source its unknown at this point.
 
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Hobgoblin2099 said:
PedroBV96 said:

One question: Which of the two moments you felt cheaper from your viewpoint?


Jotaro.

That said, Jotaro learning how to move in stopped time didn't lead to an instant win. He had to build up to the win, and DIO still slapped him around.

Here Giorno got the arrow and then Diavolo instantly gets rekt.
well the arrow getting part wasn't easy
 
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KotarouDL said:
Because of how broken King Crimson is, Araki has to create an even more OP and broken stand just to defeats King Crimson in the final arc.

The same thing he did to Star Platinum, by giving it the ability to stops time in order to defeats DIO.



Araki repeats those mistakes on every part but part 1 (well mostly because the villain both lost and won at the same time). Every end of part villain gets fucked by several asspulls. He doesn't really know how to write a fight with an overpowered ability that would result in the user's loss through build up, and no, building up requiem arrow isn't a real build up because "lol you lost you can't do anything because I am OP" was just a random power up Araki threw to Giorno's face to end the fight asap.
 
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Hobgoblin2099 said:


Jotaro.

That said, Jotaro learning how to move in stopped time didn't lead to an instant win. He had to build up to the win, and DIO still slapped him around.

Here Giorno got the arrow and then Diavolo instantly gets rekt.
well the arrow getting part wasn't easy
It also wasnt even Giorno that got it, it was far more a struggle with far more loss and team effort than jotaro suddenly deciding "yo im as strong as you now". I could understand the complaint if it were just giorno's wild keikaku that won the day but it was more bruno's sacrifice and trish almost dying that really saved the day, giorno just got the finishing blow

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

 
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Sravan666 said:
Hobgoblin2099 said:


Jotaro.

That said, Jotaro learning how to move in stopped time didn't lead to an instant win. He had to build up to the win, and DIO still slapped him around.

Here Giorno got the arrow and then Diavolo instantly gets rekt.
well the arrow getting part wasn't easy

But it was too rushed to make it meaningful.
 
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I liked this episode but I think towards the end the animation kinda dipped.
 
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Armados said:

Araki repeats those mistakes on every part but part 1 (well mostly because the villain both lost and won at the same time). Every end of part villain gets fucked by several asspulls. He doesn't really know how to write a fight with an overpowered ability that would result in the user's loss through build up, and no, building up requiem arrow isn't a real build up because "lol you lost you can't do anything because I am OP" was just a random power up Araki threw to Giorno's face to end the fight asap.



No, that didn't happen in part 1, 4, 6 and 7.
 
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Adnash93 said:
Jotaro is Gary Stu of JoJo. Deal with it.

Everything important seen by him can be mastered by Jotaro himself in an instant, even if he has almost zero knowledge on that (i.e. fight with D'Arby the younger).

If Giorno was his enemy, I bet Jotaro would find a way to defeat him. Bah, what I am talking about: he would activate Star Platinum Requiem even without this special arrow, with full control over it of course. xD

Jonathan and Giorno have a lot elements typical for Gary Stu-like characters, but Jotaro is way ahead of them in that materia.


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Overall amazing episode! Masterfully animated as always DP, they manage to keep a consistent level of quality that blows my mind. I love seeing the symbolic differences between King Crimson and Golden Experience Requiem. KC's ability removes the cause and leaves only the effect while GER's ability negates the effect regardless of the cause. I am slightly disappointed by the final fight as a whole however. Jotaro vs Dio and Josuke vs Kira both had pretty epic fights near the end while Giorno and Diavolo goes from "Golden Experience stands absolutely no chance against King Crimson" to "King Crimson stands no chance against GER". I did like the lead up where they were both fighting for the arrow but once GER emerged it did feel like some of the tension was lost. Despite all this it was still a fantastic episode with some of the best scenes in the series. Can't wait for the finale in three weeks!
 
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wowwow lots of feelings from this episode! although we all knew bruno's death was coming eventually i still found it so heartbreaking. i think his death was executed well by DP - emotional but also not dragging on for too long while giving him a good send off. rest in peace bruno :((((

i absolutely loved the animation of the whole thing that was going down between giorno and diavolo. the colours and the scenes were amazing and really eye catching. but lmao it was a bit hard for me to follow and it still had me a bit confused so i might have to rewatch. lmao GER so broken too i hate it but i love it at the same time oops

now gotta wait a few weeks for the final episodes ,, so hyped for them omgomg
 
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Adnash93 said:
Jotaro is Gary Stu of JoJo. Deal with it.

Everything important seen by him can be mastered by Jotaro himself in an instant, even if he has almost zero knowledge on that (i.e. fight with D'Arby the younger).

If Giorno was his enemy, I bet Jotaro would find a way to defeat him. Bah, what I am talking about: he would activate Star Platinum Requiem even without this special arrow, with full control over it of course. xD

Jonathan and Giorno have a lot elements typical for Gary Stu-like characters, but Jotaro is way ahead of them in that materia.


Jotaro does bullshit things in Part 3 for sure, but learned how to play the game by experimenting with the buttons and screwing up multiple times.

Heck, he doesn't even really win that fight. He just shows Joseph how to play the game and then passes the controller.
 
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JeXxTaR said:
Armados said:

Araki repeats those mistakes on every part but part 1 (well mostly because the villain both lost and won at the same time). Every end of part villain gets fucked by several asspulls. He doesn't really know how to write a fight with an overpowered ability that would result in the user's loss through build up, and no, building up requiem arrow isn't a real build up because "lol you lost you can't do anything because I am OP" was just a random power up Araki threw to Giorno's face to end the fight asap.

No, that didn't happen in part 1, 4, 6 and 7.

Having the villain crushed by an ambulance was completely random, despite the ambulance being present at the place before it happened.
 
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