| People who like 90s music more than current music, of any genre, are wrong. Sample the top 10 albums from any genre of last year, and the top 10 albums of any year in the 90s from the same genre, and the ones from last year will be better. It's not subjective. People who say this are overdosing on nostalgia, are viewing older music through rose-coloured lenses, missing their glory days, and/or are pseudo elitists who don't understand music. in summary: stfu boomers |
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Xstasy said: For ever decent rapper in this day in age, there's 100 shitty ones. Old school rappers are cut from a completely different cloth than most of these new school bois.I'am more of a old-school rap fangirl. I think that modern rap has to much mumble rappers which I am not a fan of. Also lyrics tend to be better as well. And lastly the amount of good rappers/songs is exponentially higher in the old-school then in the new-school rap in my opinion. Old School Rap Vs. New School Rap Old School Rap Vs. New School Rap Back in the day the soundcloud rappers still existed. They just didn't have a way of blowing up like they do now. So we didn't have to hear all the shitty rap that was out there (thank kami) |
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| Better sound. It's "of an era" that speaks to me as a person of a certain age. Lyrical themes aren't relevant to this. |
HopefulNihilist said: casual_filth said: Better sound. It's "of an era" that speaks to me as a person of a certain age. Lyrical themes aren't relevant to this. But there is rap today that sounds just like 90s rap too. Derivative and/or ironic pastiche doesn't really have the same appeal. I don't think I've even heard any contemporary rap/hip-hop like what you're describing, though, honestly. I mean, what era/style are we discussing? I don't hear much authentic, classically-styled G-funk coming out these days. |
| The only genre where you can say the 90s was the best time for it was for stuff like OG Emo music and all its subgenres (even tho Screamo has been doing well for itself despite being mistaken by Mallcore and stuff in the 2000s) but in the case of hip hop the underground has always been good but the 2010s has been the peak of it imo. It's one of the genres that is polarizing this decade due to how terrible the mainstream stuff can be while how great the underground/some mainstream hip hop can be. |
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| Its isnt, newschool all the way. Hiphop as a genre never had more diversity than it has today and also the production today is a lot better. Im sick of the 90s beats, they just sound so "weak" compared to todays shit. The mainstream and underground guys are fire just have to avoid the meme artists thats it |
| Because old rappers were lyrically more talented and just sound better. I don't listen to rap that much, but when I do it's the old rappers. |
RavaZa said: This is right.Cookies said: people have the right to listen to whatever they wantPeople who like 90s music more than current music, of any genre, are wrong. Sample the top 10 albums from any genre of last year, and the top 10 albums of any year in the 90s from the same genre, and the ones from last year will be better. It's not subjective. People who say this are overdosing on nostalgia, are viewing older music through rose-coloured lenses, missing their glory days, and/or are pseudo elitists who don't understand music. in summary: stfu boomers there is no "right" and "wrong". This is wrong.It's very subjective. This is wrong.everything has the right to listen to whatever they want. This is right.And it's not your nor mine job to judge them for that. This is right.OP at least asked it in more polite way. Still, even tho I hate it, that doesn't mean I'll go crying on forums how it sucks. After all, It's not like all of them suck, there are rappers that I respect, and not all fans are d*ckheads either, there are some nice ones too. It's just, as I said earlier, sad. It's sad that people can't respect other people's opinions these days. You can listen to whatever you like, I don't care, but if you think older music more than new music you are wrong, that's just a fact, there is nothing to argue. I'm not here to bullshit on people's opinions, I am just here to state the facts. FYI: I am not a fan of any rap. |
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RavaZa said: no worries brochacho enjoy listening to whatever you like have a good oneaight, glad that's been solved then :P And I wasn't upset, but I can see why u thought I was :D |
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| No wonder you dislike it if thats all you hear when you listen to the songs eh; Happy I know more than 3 categories of 'rap' from that decade. Or atleast know the nuances. CowboyMode said: They don't know much about harmonics and sound in general from that commentCookies said: People who like 90s music more than current music, of any genre, are wrong. you must not listen to/know much about metal |
SilverstormJul 3, 2019 9:22 PM
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| Current mainstream rap is like 2005 folk emo meets Wyclef Jean, as performed by a 90's rapper's underfed autistic meme-loving nephew |
| I don't think it is. Though this era is a really mixed bag. So much auto tune garbage that comes out I can see why people might get the wrong idea and think its trash. |
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HopefulNihilist said: @RavaZa How as 2pac on, "a whole other level"? Aside from his fantastic voice, and a few emotional songs, in many peoples' opinions, including mine, 2pac was a mediocre rapper: he lacked wordplay (playing with words so there's more meaning to it), double entendres, wasn't particularly known for punchlines. Kendrick Lamar and J. Cole rarely talk about killing people. When Kendrick does talk about killing people, he more often than not, does it in a way where he doesn't glorify it. 2pac would have one song where he's being socially conscious, than he'd have at least 5 more songs where he's talking about killing people. Aidoru-Ojisan said: The only genre where you can say the 90s was the best time for it was for stuff like OG Emo music and all its subgenres (even tho Screamo has been doing well for itself despite being mistaken by Mallcore and stuff in the 2000s) but in the case of hip hop the underground has always been good but the 2010s has been the peak of it imo. It's one of the genres that is polarizing this decade due to how terrible the mainstream stuff can be while how great the underground/some mainstream hip hop can be. Aside from maybe 2pac, I don't think emo music even existed in the 90s. @Xstasy Why do you think that lyrics from the 90s are better than lyrical rappers today? Yeah tell the music fag of MAL that Emo didn't exist in the 90s  smh, it technically existed since the 80s boi but anyways this thread was about hip hop anyways so whatever, I shared my knowledge of facts |
Aidoru-OjisanJul 4, 2019 2:26 AM
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Aidoru-Ojisan said: HopefulNihilist said: @RavaZa How as 2pac on, "a whole other level"? Aside from his fantastic voice, and a few emotional songs, in many peoples' opinions, including mine, 2pac was a mediocre rapper: he lacked wordplay (playing with words so there's more meaning to it), double entendres, wasn't particularly known for punchlines. Kendrick Lamar and J. Cole rarely talk about killing people. When Kendrick does talk about killing people, he more often than not, does it in a way where he doesn't glorify it. 2pac would have one song where he's being socially conscious, than he'd have at least 5 more songs where he's talking about killing people. Aside from maybe 2pac, I don't think emo music even existed in the 90s. @Xstasy Why do you think that lyrics from the 90s are better than lyrical rappers today? Yeah tell the music fag of MAL that Emo didn't exist in the 90s smh, it technically existed since the 80s boi but anyways this thread was about hip hop anyways so whatever, I shared my knowledge of facts But those are bands, right? Are they not hip hop? |
HopefulNihilist said: Aidoru-Ojisan said: Yeah tell the music fag of MAL that Emo didn't exist in the 90s smh, it technically existed since the 80s boi but anyways this thread was about hip hop anyways so whatever, I shared my knowledge of facts But those are bands, right? Are they not hip hop? No no just wanted to correct your statement on how you said "I don't think emo music even existed in the 90s." lol |
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Aidoru-Ojisan said: No no just wanted to correct your statement on how you said "I don't think emo music even existed in the 90s." lol Oh, my bad: I meant to say, "emo rap music didn't exist in the 90s". |
HopefulNihilist said: Aidoru-Ojisan said: No no just wanted to correct your statement on how you said "I don't think emo music even existed in the 90s." lol Oh, my bad: I meant to say, "emo rap music didn't exist in the 90s". oh ic ic, emo rap didn't become a thing till cloud rap became more mainstream which is like 2010s. Emo Hip Hop is still not so as mainstream unless we're talking about XXX, Lil Peep, or Lil Uzi Vert's most popular songs now of days, wasn't a thing in the 90s or 2000s either meanwhile Cloud Rap showed up pretty early like early 2000s but 2000s was the start of hip hop branching out a lot more. |
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HopefulNihilist said: Sorry, made the presumption based off the list (killing, conscience, bragging), my apologies. Silverstorm said: No wonder you dislike it if thats all you hear when you listen to the songs eh; Happy I know more than 3 categories of 'rap' from that decade. Or atleast know the nuances. I never said I disliked 90s rap. What are the other categories? And what are the other nuances? There are alot more than those some dealing with killing or those dealing with death (P. Diddy, ThugnBones) that would be both socially conscious of loss and existence and what lies after. Narrative rap is not even considered here (eg. Tha Alkaholiks, Will Smith, etc) which told a story of daily life/situations that large groups of people (beyond race/ethnicity/status/p.value) were able to relate to. Women MCs and groups were the newest feature and told a story or perspective that was new (eg. Lil Ki, Queen Latifah, Left Eye). What makes these songs different than current though is mainly the current uses a similar method of selling; look at how Lil Kim marketed herself as her career rose to Minaj--parallels were made of Gaga and Madonna until recently so not a feature to only rap. So nothing about the releases are "fresh" for those who were around and the people influenced by them. Even the combination of country/rap, rock/rap isn't new (eg. Nelly, Jay Z, Run DMC). The artists were creative (maybe not geniuses to me, cause they relied on samples for a large amount of time, still artistic) cause the songs and themes were new, the way it was sold was new and what they had to say progressed. The categories, I get you made out of convenience but it should have more genres and subgenres. Today there are good lyricist (eg. Lamar, kendrick, Nipsey) that talk alot of socially conscious things but none of it is new if you listened to Tupac and other West Coast rappers (not to say the other regions didn't have similar artists). Most of the ones I named there even used majority beats from those 90s artist as samples (eg. Can I holla at you, Cole/Fugees) in there mixtapes to get to where they are. You also had material-existential "the dream" rappers (eg. Biggie, Nas or Too Short) that Lil Wayne could compete or beat in most instances. Currently many of the beats are the same, the lyrics are generic, and there is a higher use of the metaphor form. Not saying today's rap sucks, though there is so much of it that it makes in absolute terms, alot of sucky songs as well. But you notice most of the names from the list are those at the top of the "rap game" currently. I didn't name the seemingly countless 'Lils' that can put their work out. We can talk about Hip-Hop, current producer influence and beat flooding in the market making the songs now all seem alike (from the same sources is why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9OiMYkeHRo) later. |
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| does this count as 90s rap or is it to late into the 2000s? |
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Cookies said: People who like 90s music more than current music, of any genre, are wrong. Sample the top 10 albums from any genre of last year, and the top 10 albums of any year in the 90s from the same genre, and the ones from last year will be better. It's not subjective. People who say this are overdosing on nostalgia, are viewing older music through rose-coloured lenses, missing their glory days, and/or are pseudo elitists who don't understand music. in summary: stfu boomers That has to be one of the dumbest things Deathko ever read here. It's a stance that is even less credible with music than cartoons. Go away with your rose-tinted newfaggotry lenses I guess? Oh, have a bonus question: Are people who listen to and enjoy classical music 300 years old? |
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Deathko said: I am sorry if I upset you. Sadly I don't have opinions, I can only state facts.Cookies said: That has to be one of the dumbest things Deathko ever read here. It's a stance that is even less credible with music than cartoons. Go away with your rose-tinted newfaggotry lenses I guess?People who like 90s music more than current music, of any genre, are wrong. Sample the top 10 albums from any genre of last year, and the top 10 albums of any year in the 90s from the same genre, and the ones from last year will be better. It's not subjective. People who say this are overdosing on nostalgia, are viewing older music through rose-coloured lenses, missing their glory days, and/or are pseudo elitists who don't understand music. in summary: stfu boomers Oh, have a bonus question: Are people who listen to and enjoy classical music 300 years old? |
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Cookies said: Deathko said: I am sorry if I upset you. Sadly I don't have opinions, I can only state facts.That has to be one of the dumbest things Deathko ever read here. It's a stance that is even less credible with music than cartoons. Go away with your rose-tinted newfaggotry lenses I guess? Oh, have a bonus question: Are people who listen to and enjoy classical music 300 years old? No, you can only talk for and make a fool of yourself. The only fact here is that you have no argument whatsoever and are just talking out of your ass. |
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Deathko said: Disagreeing with what I say is not an option. I am only stating facts. You are open to enjoy any type of music you like, even if it is bad and even if it is good. If you prefer older music I am happy for you, it is great to be able to enjoy music :-) Cookies said: No, you can only talk for and make a fool of yourself. The only fact here is that you have no argument whatsoever and are just talking out of your ass.I am sorry if I upset you. Sadly I don't have opinions, I can only state facts. |
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Cookies said: Deathko said: Disagreeing with what I say is not an option. I am only stating facts. You are open to enjoy any type of music you like, even if it is bad and even if it is good. If you prefer older music I am happy for you, it is great to be able to enjoy music :-) No, you can only talk for and make a fool of yourself. The only fact here is that you have no argument whatsoever and are just talking out of your ass. Lol yeah, you can stick your head in the sand like an ostrich to avoid having to back up your stupid claims, if that makes you feel better. Like a 6 yo cheating at tag, I guess. You should grow up, look up the definitions of opinions and facts, and learn to face reality. |
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Deathko said: You can disregard what I've said if you don't like it. It may be fact but you don't have to acknowledge it if you don't want to. Ultimately, what I have to say doesn't affect you and you should enjoy listening to whatever music you like the most! :-)Cookies said: Lol yeah, you can stick your head in the sand like an ostrich to avoid having to back up your stupid claims, if that makes you feel better. Like a 6 yo cheating at tag, I guess.Disagreeing with what I say is not an option. I am only stating facts. You are open to enjoy any type of music you like, even if it is bad and even if it is good. If you prefer older music I am happy for you, it is great to be able to enjoy music :-) You should grow up, look up the definitions of opinions and facts, and learn to face reality. |
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Cookies said: People who like 90s music more than current music, of any genre, are wrong. Sample the top 10 albums from any genre of last year, and the top 10 albums of any year in the 90s from the same genre, and the ones from last year will be better. It's not subjective. People who say this are overdosing on nostalgia, are viewing older music through rose-coloured lenses, missing their glory days, and/or are pseudo elitists who don't understand music. in summary: stfu boomers "Sample the top 10 albums from any genre of last year, and the top 10 albums of any year in the 90s from the same genre" I would have not reacted like this if you just said hip hop and not any genre, ah my patrician knowledge got a good laugh at this sentence, thanks Zoomer. |
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Aidoru-Ojisan said: I am sorry if you can't understand the truth. I don't have an opinion of my own I can only state facts and speak the truth. You are free to have an opinion that is not the truth and I am glad you can enjoy older music :-)Cookies said: People who like 90s music more than current music, of any genre, are wrong. Sample the top 10 albums from any genre of last year, and the top 10 albums of any year in the 90s from the same genre, and the ones from last year will be better. It's not subjective. People who say this are overdosing on nostalgia, are viewing older music through rose-coloured lenses, missing their glory days, and/or are pseudo elitists who don't understand music. in summary: stfu boomers "Sample the top 10 albums from any genre of last year, and the top 10 albums of any year in the 90s from the same genre" I would have not reacted like this if you just said hip hop and not any genre, ah my patrician knowledge got a good laugh at this sentence, thanks Zoomer. |
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Cookies said: Aidoru-Ojisan said: I am sorry if you can't understand the truth. I don't have an opinion of my own I can only state facts and speak the truth. You are free to have an opinion that is not the truth and I am glad you can enjoy older music :-)"Sample the top 10 albums from any genre of last year, and the top 10 albums of any year in the 90s from the same genre" I would have not reacted like this if you just said hip hop and not any genre, ah my patrician knowledge got a good laugh at this sentence, thanks Zoomer. "I am sorry if you can't understand the truth. I don't have an opinion of my own I can only state facts and speak the truth." Do you seriously want to state something like this to someone who dedicated their life to discovering music of all ages? Ah if this is how you defend your obvious opinion this is the biggest troll post I have seen on MAL's music forums and it makes me sad to see that plebs can make claims like this kek! Alright let me school you Zoomer and show you how laughable your "facts" and "truth" are I can only really say the 90s were the final days of Alternative Generation X Rock/Metal before the 2000s brought upon the rise of good looking frontmen Rock bands meant to appeal to teenage girls and hot topic teenager customers yet as the years passed Rock on the radio died out to give rise to Electro/Dance Pop, EDM, and modern Hip Hop to take over. Rock still exists ofc, underground keeping genres alive hurr durr but to focus on your claim, let's sample the top 10 Rock albums of 2018 to 1998 1998 1. Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea (Ranked: #10 overall on RYM) 2. Death - The Sound of Perseverance (#363 overall) 3. Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come: A Chimerical Bombination in 12 Bursts (#497 overall) 4. Gorguts - Obscura (#534 overall) 5. Opeth - My Arms, Your Hearse (#604 overall) 6. Duster - Stratosphere (#666 overall) 7. Tortoise - TNT (#1,029 overall) 8. Bruce Dickinson - The Chemical Wedding (#1,077 overall) 9. Blind Guardian - Nightfall in Middle-Earth (#1,142 overall) 10. Pulp - This Is Hardcore (#1,246 overall) 2018 1. Daughters - You Won't Get What You Want (Ranked: #330 overall on RYM) 2. Car Seat Headrest - Twin Fantasy (#553 overall) 3. Beach House - 7 (#1,427 overall) 4. Parquet Courts - Wide Awaaaaake! (#1,779 overall) 5. IDLES - Joy as an Act of Resistance. (#1,952 overall) 6. Tropical Fuck Storm - A Laughing Death in Meatspace (#4,211 overall) 7. Sleep - The Sciences (#4,864 overall) 8. Haru Nemuri - Haru to Shura (#5,274 overall) 9. Low - Double Negative (#5,387 overall) 10. Chapel Of Disease - ...And as We Have Seen the Storm, We Have Embraced the Eye (#5,387 overall) "Ohhhhh but Daughters and Car Seat Headrest are pretty high ranked" yeah I get it, 2018 had some great Rock records (even tho Daughters album was just a 7 for me, mostly Anthony Fantano's review gave it the clout it has today on RYM cause his sheep are mostly the population on the site kek) but aside from that I am just trying to show you facts to refute your claim of "Sample the top 10 albums from any genre of last year, and the top 10 albums of any year in the 90s from the same genre, and the ones from last year will be better. It's not subjective"" Well from these rankings I have shown you made from the ratings of more than a 1000 folks shows you that it is subjective, it is subjective and not fact that I give Daughters' record a 7 and not a 10, this being the same case with Aeroplane Over The Sea (giving it a light 8 and not a 10) despite their ranking. Yet my opinion is only 1 in the 1000s who have decided that these records I have listed from 1998/2018 have proven that your claim is incorrect, Rock records from 1998 are more highly rated and ranked than the records from 2018. And your whole Nostalgia shit claim, lol let me tell you a lot of these people who have rated are young adults who are only following what their pseudo-intellectual music fan friends tell them what is good and have no nostalgic connection to most of these records from 1998 LOL. Now dear Zoomer, as a non-pseudo music elitist and the real deal which means I don't mind being an asshole when it comes down to plebs making stupid claims like yours and stating them as fact, I suggest you look a bit more into music before stating them as fact :> |
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| But the video clips have bigger budgets nowadays, modern MTV music is objectively better, you dumb boomer *insert random millenial meme* |
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| @HopefulNihilist maybe you're right about the music community being the most cancerous behind the Sports and Gamer ones... honestly I've started to notice how bad it can be seeing the comment boxes for the top rated records from this year on RYM and how people are saying that one Youtuber's opinion can influence the whole ranking and flaming each other if they think it is bad based on personal opinion. Which I can agree to the fact that Melon's (Anthony Fantano's) reviews/opinions do hold a lot of power over how people will feel about a record and stuff compared to the amount of influence an AniTuber will have. Gigguk and TheAnimeMan don't have as much influence as Melon and there's proof that when Melon gives a high ranking album from this year or the current year a bad review that it will drop, and then both his sheep and the people that gave it a low score will lash with each other. It's funny but your point is proven cause that is not the only toxic aspect of the music community, knowing that sub-genres and whole genres carry their own breed of elitist and stan culture which can be cancerous af and seep into other mediums as you can see with the K-Pop stan community. Anyways end of rant but wanted to prove your point lol, sad how my fave medium can be this toxic. |
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HopefulNihilist said: Idk how you can say those 4 guys are more intelligent than Jay Z when he literally crafts the rhymes in his head and then records straight from memory the only one who could give a run for his money is JCole. JayZ also a billionaire guyKiosho said: Better beats, better lyrics. Beats today are more diverse. Lyrically, I can name rappers from this era (2000-today) that are more intelligent than most rappers in the 90s (Jay Z, Big L, 2pac, Biggie) I've listened to: Denzel Curry J. Cole Sage Francis Kendrick Lamar |
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| Listening to hip hop for "socially conscious" lyrics is cringe. I prefer more 90s rap, the stuff coming out of Memphis in the 90s is my favorite. There are definelty some good rappers today, Denzel is the only one you listed that I really like though. J Cole is garbo. |
MurauJul 8, 2019 10:34 AM
| More recent rap it alot better than than the try-hard-to-be-legit posers of the 90's. Here is a more recent MV that is in touch with that street reality. Boyz be keeping in real. |
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Cookies said: lol this fuckin guy RavaZa said: This is right.people have the right to listen to whatever they want there is no "right" and "wrong". This is wrong.It's very subjective. This is wrong.everything has the right to listen to whatever they want. This is right.And it's not your nor mine job to judge them for that. This is right.OP at least asked it in more polite way. Still, even tho I hate it, that doesn't mean I'll go crying on forums how it sucks. After all, It's not like all of them suck, there are rappers that I respect, and not all fans are d*ckheads either, there are some nice ones too. It's just, as I said earlier, sad. It's sad that people can't respect other people's opinions these days. You can listen to whatever you like, I don't care, but if you think older music more than new music you are wrong, that's just a fact, there is nothing to argue. I'm not here to bullshit on people's opinions, I am just here to state the facts. FYI: I am not a fan of any rap. |
HopefulNihilist said: guess all comes down to perspective and taste. 2000s babys and 90s babys are so different lol (you're 99 but you're a 2000s baby for sure)PantsuSenseiUwU said: Idk how you can say those 4 guys are more intelligent than Jay Z when he literally crafts the rhymes in his head and then records straight from memory the only one who could give a run for his money is JCole. JayZ also a billionaire guy I don't know much about Jay Z post 1999-present, but 90s Jay Z? I don't care for. Why does it matter how well you can craft rhymes in your head, if what you're saying is boring? I don't understand how most people find Jay Z to be an interesting rapper, when 90% of the time, it seems all he talks about, is money and women. Murau said: I agree with everything you said The cringe, the 90s rap being better, liking denzel but man Jcole I fuck with even though I mostly listen to old school shit. Listening to hip hop for "socially conscious" lyrics is cringe. I prefer more 90s rap, the stuff coming out of Memphis in the 90s is my favorite. There are definelty some good rappers today, Denzel is the only one you listed that I really like though. J Cole is garbo. |
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