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Jul 12, 6:40 PM
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i personally liked this anime it put a nice interesting spin on on the whole isekai franchise.
I do feel the 1st half was a bit too harsh on shield hero, but I like how they got the rewarding 2nd half of peace.
Ultimately, I wouldnt mind seeing a 2nd season of this or even just an OVA that constantly made reference to Bitch/Whore every 5 minutes like your average South Park Episode.
Overall Im giving this am 10, but to me its more like a 9.5
 
Jul 12, 8:29 PM

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quercifolia said:
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A top contender for worst anime of the year. What an underwhelming finale bout with Glass zzzz and gathering the loli waifu baits. 2.5/10


>worst anime of the year
>rated over 8/10

Despite the desperate outpouring of sarcastic negative reviews by bitter sad trolls, this show is doing fine both in ratings and popularity.

Why are you even here? If you dislike it so much, go watch something you actually enjoy. Like Sword Art Online.

/waves

Goodbye Glass. I never really knew you and don't really care that you're gone. please don't return

Preach, here’s hoping for season 2
 
Jul 13, 9:45 PM
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Fuck, ended up binge watching this through the night. To end this conflict it looks like one of them will have to sacrifice their world and migrate all the people to the surviving world.
 
Jul 14, 3:15 PM

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I haven't binge-watched a series since I discovered Attack on Titan season 1 after it had finished airing, until this series. I loved this anime! The characters were great, the animation was beautiful, and it was a good story. They wrapped it up nicely at the end, and I do hope they make another season!
 
Jul 14, 10:07 PM

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What i liked(Pro's):
1. Naofumi's rise from a Zero to Hero. How we saw Naofomi who was framed for a crime he did not commit and abandoned by his everyone (Fellow heroes, Kingdom, Public) become the one who was only worthy of the title "Hero"
2. The Romance, how we saw Raphtalia's love and loyalty for Naofumi Grow as the story progressed and learned about her backstory.
3. How Naofumi was presented with a Dilemna. in order to save Melromarc he must defeat the hereos from the another world,thus dooming Glasses and L'arc's world to destruction.
4. How Naofumi went from a bitter man who didn't trust others become more open and accepting others. He's slowly building a name for himself.


I enjoyed this show, mostly for the above reasons. I didn't mind the other heroes being incompetent but am curious if they will always be that way. It certainly seems strange that Naofumi is the only strong and competent hero.

My only concern is the ending. I'm reminded of the Slime Isekai which I didn't like toward the end because it had too many characters (with little development for any of them) and had the main character managing a village which kept the character centered at the village quite a bit. One of the things I liked about the Shield Hero anime was how much he traveled around and how the focus was on a small party. With him managing a town, if there is a season 2, I'll be interested to see how this changes things.
 
Jul 15, 5:13 PM

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That was good. Still haven't forgotten all the bullshit they puy Naofumi through though.

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Jul 18, 11:01 AM
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well hope it gets a new season
 
Jul 19, 4:35 AM

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nidoqueen106 said:
i personally liked this anime it put a nice interesting spin on on the whole isekai franchise.
I do feel the 1st half was a bit too harsh on shield hero, but I like how they got the rewarding 2nd half of peace.
Ultimately, I wouldnt mind seeing a 2nd season of this or even just an OVA that constantly made reference to Bitch/Whore every 5 minutes like your average South Park Episode.
Overall Im giving this am 10, but to me its more like a 9.5


about harsh on shield hero, yea but its nothing compare to re:zero mc hardship, how meany times he died and got clock reversed by the curse protecting him, it was hard to watch and yet couln't stop neither 😂

 
Jul 19, 5:52 AM
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Oh dear, here we go again. Yes, they changed a lot, in the whole series and throughout the last episode, I didn't like it. I said I would've liked it done differently, nothing more, why do you feel the need to discuss MY opinion
I don't discuss YOUR opinion, I point out your blatant lie: "I did say I didn't want them to include it, but rather leave it out." This is just your weak attempt to backpedal from your original claim: "what happened with Rishia, it was just thrown in, she should've deserved more than that?"

I explained that she didn't, then you "pivoted" to "new point of view" - "leave it out" and started to accuse me that I "don't read" what you wrote as if it was your original claim.

Yes, no one in the world cares what you think, me included. But your ridiculous complaint about "deserves more than that" and your even more ridiculous attempt to pretend you didn't say it are just annoying.

You're just going to bend my words your way anyway, so there's no need to get into this any further.
You are the one who tries to "bend" your words, I did nothing of the sort. And yeah, discussing anything with you is a waste of time indeed.
 
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BlackLatias said:
Oh dear, here we go again. Yes, they changed a lot, in the whole series and throughout the last episode, I didn't like it. I said I would've liked it done differently, nothing more, why do you feel the need to discuss MY opinion
I don't discuss YOUR opinion, I point out your blatant lie: "I did say I didn't want them to include it, but rather leave it out." This is just your weak attempt to backpedal from your original claim: "what happened with Rishia, it was just thrown in, she should've deserved more than that?"

I explained that she didn't, then you "pivoted" to "new point of view" - "leave it out" and started to accuse me that I "don't read" what you wrote as if it was your original claim.

Yes, no one in the world cares what you think, me included. But your ridiculous complaint about "deserves more than that" and your even more ridiculous attempt to pretend you didn't say it are just annoying.

You're just going to bend my words your way anyway, so there's no need to get into this any further.
You are the one who tries to "bend" your words, I did nothing of the sort. And yeah, discussing anything with you is a waste of time indeed.

This was far too long for me to remember what this even was about (and I don't care enough anymore to find out), but the anime FOR ME was just a poor adaption with bad pacing. If you like it, fine, but you still just took my words for what you wanted and it's annoying.

So please, just leave me be in the future, okay (but I suppose outside of this anime we won't see each other in the forum again anyway, so that's a good thing!)? This is the second time you just went ahead and refuted everything I said anyway and it's really bothersome because there's just no way to get anywhere with you.
 
Jul 19, 11:37 AM
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There are quite a few things that make no sense or are just plain stupid in this anime:

- Motoyasu is going to leave Malty to be decapitated but is back to defending her and has her in his party afterwards. This makes no sense.

- Raphtalia being stronger than the other three heroes. This completely contradicts the whole "we need the four heroes". Normal people seem to be able to become stronger than the heroes, so that is obviously a load of rubbish. The three heroes cannot damage the whale monster but Raphtalia can? Idiotic.

- Naofumi being stronger than the other three heroes. Why? This is never explained. What does he do differently that makes him so much stronger? He kills monsters and levels up? That is what they all do, so it makes no sense. He is stronger simply because he is the protagonist.

- For all the fuss about Naofumi not being able to attack, he seems to have the most powerful attack of all the heroes. I thought the whole idea is that he is a support specialist, who has been undervalued. Not anymore. He is completely superior. Has an impenetrable defence and the strongest attack. Hell, the other three heroes cannot even defend, as any time they try they get blown away.

- Why is Naofumi the only one who seems to be able to figure things out? The other three heroes are portrayed as completely stupid for no other reason than to make the protagonist seem better.

- I thought Naofumi wasn't going to stay in the country and leaves in episode 21 (I think) to visit another, but suddenly he is back in the next episode, ignoring the whole intention to go to another country and help them with the waves.

- There seemed to be some relationship development between the four heroes with them acting civil with each at the end of episode 21 (I think), but, again, the next episode ignores this and has them arguing with each other, solely based on the fact that the other three heroes are dumb. Of course, Naofumi does not get involved because he is intelligent.

There are good parts to the anime, but I absolutely hate when an author makes other characters stupid just to make the protagonist seem cool. Also, I hate when they ignore their own rules to make the protagonist more powerful e.g. the fact Naofumi now has the strongest attack, even though him being weak offensively seemed to be the whole point of the story.

Now, I understand giving him some attack (it could get boring otherwise), but why did it have to be more powerful than the other three heroes? Silly decision.


5/10 at best.
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Jul 20, 5:36 AM
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8/10. One of the best isekai
 
Jul 20, 8:18 PM
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about harsh on shield hero, yea but its nothing compare to re:zero mc hardship, how meany times he died and got clock reversed by the curse protecting him, it was hard to watch and yet couln't stop neither 😂


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True, but I kinda disregard that because The Shield Hero and Subaru had no choice being transported to their worlds. But the shield hero called B.S on his treatment and basically had a right attitude about it

Subaru was a bit more unrealistc where he didnt care how much he died so long as he can protect his dream "waifu" who he literally just met and knew next to nothing about her so he basically asked to be killed over and over
 
Jul 22, 12:56 AM

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People why do you like it? In this title everything is awful. It's reminds another one Disney cartoon
 
Jul 23, 6:50 PM

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I liked a few things about this show but disliked the first 3/4 of it.
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Jul 23, 9:27 PM

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i don't like how they kinda shoved in the new party member here, it was much smoother in transition for the manga. this is a pretty decent isekai, better than most, the best part of this all has been mostly naofumi's build up as a character.
 
Jul 27, 5:20 PM

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So are we going to get a third season or will it be left there?

If yes, I do hope that they don't make us wait too long for it.
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Jul 27, 5:45 PM

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The problem when you betray your initial promise is that the rest of the show feels worse than it would be without that first promise.

They tried to chew too much at once. They tried to be different and then could not keep the pace.

This show did some things right. Protagonist is older than the average isekai and that's refreshing (pass), Raphtalia looked like an attempt at loli first, but she grows up few episodes later (pass), finally a competent queen (pass).

And, sadly, it shows the same weakness all modern anime shares and fails to fix even the most trivial one of them: the loli came because the team has to include a loli (yes, I laughed at the gacha scene, wasn't prepared for that joke, but ignoring comedy it isn't a good justification for such an important character). Filo is Naofumi's AoE massive destruction weapon, when Raphtalia isn't enough you send Filo to finish the job. Or, that's the theory, but it feels like her absurd power is there only to defend again the "the team needs a loli" accusation.

How could that be fixed? Easy, make Filo behave consistent with her mental age. She must be egoist, hard to control, and want to play all day. Hug Naofumi all the time must not be among her interests. And Raphtalia should not see her as a rival, Filo must be to Naofumi and Raphtalia like their daughter. Be having a hard to control Filo (think Charizard in first PokeMon) we can justify Raphtalia as still relevant in the team. As things are now she is a bit obsolete.

Battles aren't tactical at all. The writer attempts on Chekhov's gun by introducing some skills episodes before they are used, but this has no sense because we really don't know the inners of the game mechanics as to make any sense of such skills. We cannot really simulate in our mind possible uses for the skills based only on their help text, so when they are finally used they feel like Deus Ex Machina.

Justification for heroes from another world coming with the waves is nonexistent. I don't know if this is because of bad translation or because the light novel still didn't explained it properly, but those dialogs about why the other world's heroes need to do what they do have no sense to me. Are we supposed to catch anything by looking at a random vision and empty dialogs about wanting to save our world? Save our world from what? Why the waves benefit that other world? The only thing I got about the waves is that they happens in both worlds at the same time.

Finally, the last hug scene between Naofumi and Raphtalia leaves you wondering what is happening there. The camera angle is manipulative and coward. In the best of cases they did it because they don't know what the light novel will do with this couple, but knowing the anime industry, chances are they don't want to piss off the ones rooting for Naofumi x Filo or Naofumi x the princess (the loli one).

Am I the only one wanting the panther guy slave to be part of Naofumi team in the future? He was drooling for him in the first episodes. But this show already abandoned all its initial promises, so that probably won't happen. Also he is a guy, notice the pattern in Naofumi's team, they are all girls. Last addition to Naofumi's team feels most unnatural, even more unnatural than gacha.
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Jul 28, 3:29 PM
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Loved it! 8/10...very enjoyable.
 
Jul 30, 9:30 AM

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Naofumi and Raphtalia are so precious <3
i really loved the scene at to end

naofumi you don't need to back to your shitty world
just stay with Raphtalia forever

8/10 , gtfo haters :)
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Jul 30, 4:41 PM
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Show is a 7/10 for me

I really like the art style and character designs. It explores themes not usually seen in anime let alone this genre well enough, though it does get wearing after a while when we are 3/4 in the show and everyone still hates the MC.

It loses points though because I have seen better action and battle set pieces. I wasn't a fan of the Pope sequence. The most enjoyable part was seeing the utility of the shield.

There is a bit of tension between the MC and Raphtalia - centred around MC going 'back home' once all is said and done. But why? None of his past otaku life is explored at all. Family, job etc. It would make no sense for him to return back if he has accomplished so much in this new world - at least from what we have seen. The show never really explores what Naofumi wants, who he is, what makes him tick. He is mostly developed through circumstance, so he is kind of a weak character in my book. Though he isn't necessarily horrible either.

I enjoyed the show and would watch a second season.
 
Jul 31, 3:15 PM

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8/10
Proved an entertaining watch and could've even been 9/10 if not for plot-induced utter uselessness of the other 3 heroes and Raphtalia-induced melodramatic unreasonable beggings of 'no, you can't go back to your own world and leave me behind sniff-sniff-sniff'. Seriously, someone who claims to be his sword being so weak and making such selfish and unreasonable demands damaged my impression somewhat.
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Lets be honest, this serie got lost, Shield hero actually had more damage than anyone else, the other 3 ones were useless till end... Hell, even Melty was more usefull.

Overall 6/10 for me, mainly cause First Arc was really good and It has good drama moments
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BlackLatias said:
FreezePeach said:
I don't discuss YOUR opinion, I point out your blatant lie: "I did say I didn't want them to include it, but rather leave it out." This is just your weak attempt to backpedal from your original claim: "what happened with Rishia, it was just thrown in, she should've deserved more than that?"

I explained that she didn't, then you "pivoted" to "new point of view" - "leave it out" and started to accuse me that I "don't read" what you wrote as if it was your original claim.

Yes, no one in the world cares what you think, me included. But your ridiculous complaint about "deserves more than that" and your even more ridiculous attempt to pretend you didn't say it are just annoying.

You are the one who tries to "bend" your words, I did nothing of the sort. And yeah, discussing anything with you is a waste of time indeed.

This was far too long for me to remember what this even was about (and I don't care enough anymore to find out), but the anime FOR ME was just a poor adaption with bad pacing. If you like it, fine, but you still just took my words for what you wanted and it's annoying.
Nope. Another blatant lie. I quoted exactly what you said, at no point I tried to put words in your mouth.

And you "can't remember" - hilarious. Pants on fire. Let me refresh your memory. You original complaint "Rishia deserved more than that" was ridiculous, I pointed it out, unable to defend it you switched to alternative, equally ridiculous point of view "leave it out" and tried to pretend nothing happened and that I "don't read" what you wrote. Weak. No wonder you trying to forget it.

Yeah, I will let you be. Discussing anything with you is a waste of time.
 
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The fight of Naofumi, Raphtalia, Filo and Melty against Glass, L'Arc and Therese went into round 2. This time Naofumi fought alone against Glass. Interesting how the soul eater shield was so effective against her. It's crazy that she even wants to give her life to rescue her world. But why have heros of other world to fight each other? I didn't expect that they would beat glass with alcohol.

So they wave ended when Glass and the others disappeared. Does that mean with every new wave in Naofumis world they have to fight them?

Itsuki outcast one of his members because of false accusation? Didn't he learn something from what happened to Naofumi? Guess not. Oh well. So that green haired girl who rescued Naofumi now is a new member of Naofumis group. What a coincidence.

I liked the idea of Naofumi becoming the monarch of the place where Rapthalia lived. Was definitely a big surprise for her. The whole place as basement + recruiting and train new comrades is perfect. Was also nice to see all the familiar faces of the persons Naofumi helped in the past even when almost everyone was against him.

Finally Raphtalia could tell Naofumi what she on her mind the whole time. I liked this Naofumi x Raphtalia moment a lot. They're such a cute couple. <3

Overall I really enjoyed this show. The darker tone at the beginning made it very interesting. Sure there were some weaker episode, but tbh doesn't that happen in almost every other show? The fact that there are heros from other worlds they have to fight against screams for a second season. Hopefully in the near future we get an announcment. Thanks for this nice ride :)


 
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