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Vazka said: I barely have watched any slice of life anime. But the one I have watched (Hyouka) was so fucking boring I dropped it after 2 episodes. Welcome to the NHK and Koe no Katachi are SoL anime. You gave both a 9. Gintama and Cowboy Bebop have strong SoL qualities. 9 and 10 respectively. I think the issue is that a lot of critics just don't realize that SoL is a versatile format. |
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84DaysWithout said: Vazka said: I barely have watched any slice of life anime. But the one I have watched (Hyouka) was so fucking boring I dropped it after 2 episodes. Welcome to the NHK and Koe no Katachi are SoL anime. You gave both a 9. Gintama and Cowboy Bebop have strong SoL qualities. 9 and 10 respectively. I think the issue is that a lot of critics just don't realize that SoL is a versatile format. Welcome to the NHK is a psychological drama and Koe no Katachi is a rom-drama, classifying them as SoL doesn't seem right, even kinda misleading. Slice of life elements and slice of life narrative are two different things. A show can be tagged slice of life, but that doesn't say much. You can't compare Sakurasou which is a rom-com, with drama, themes about self growth or pursuing your goals with Non Non Biyori or Barakamon which embrace the plain daily life, or in other words, with a slice of life in it's purest form. Imo only those "pure" shows should be labeled specifically as slice of life. |
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FMmatron said: 84DaysWithout said: Welcome to the NHK and Koe no Katachi are SoL anime. You gave both a 9. Gintama and Cowboy Bebop have strong SoL qualities. 9 and 10 respectively. I think the issue is that a lot of critics just don't realize that SoL is a versatile format. Welcome to the NHK is a psychological drama and Koe no Katachi is a rom-drama, classifying them as SoL doesn't seem right, even kinda misleading. Slice of life elements and slice of life narrative are two different things. A show can be tagged slice of life, but that doesn't say much. You can't compare Sakurasou which is a rom-com, with drama, themes about self growth or pursuing your goals with Non Non Biyori or Barakamon which embrace the plain daily life, or in other words, with a slice of life in it's purest form. Imo only those "pure" shows should be labeled specifically as slice of life. The narratives of Welcome to the NHK and Koe no Katachi are structured around authentic experiences of social anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts and disorders that cause a person to be othered in a community. Romantic dramas often have strong parallels to SoL. in the context of NHK where Satou is modeled after the stereotypical shut in NEET the psychological tag is related to the authenticity of his depiction. I understand not considering Bebop a SoL. But NHK and KnK are absolutely that to me. |
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84DaysWithout said: FMmatron said: Welcome to the NHK is a psychological drama and Koe no Katachi is a rom-drama, classifying them as SoL doesn't seem right, even kinda misleading. Slice of life elements and slice of life narrative are two different things. A show can be tagged slice of life, but that doesn't say much. You can't compare Sakurasou which is a rom-com, with drama, themes about self growth or pursuing your goals with Non Non Biyori or Barakamon which embrace the plain daily life, or in other words, with a slice of life in it's purest form. Imo only those "pure" shows should be labeled specifically as slice of life. The narratives of Welcome to the NHK and Koe no Katachi are structured around authentic experiences of social anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts and disorders that cause a person to be othered in a community. Romantic dramas often have strong parallels to SoL. in the context of NHK where Satou is modeled after the stereotypical shut in NEET the psychological tag is related to the authenticity of his depiction. I understand not considering Bebop a SoL. But NHK and KnK are absolutely that to me. I think you're misinterpreting the meaning of slice of life. Here a random definition an example of what ordinary life is like : something (such as a story or movie) that shows what ordinary life is like The story is/shows/presents a slice of life in a small Midwestern town. It's true that welcome to the NHK and Koe no Katachi have slice of life elements, but their defined themes and the narrative focussed on portraying them are overshadowing it. By your logic I could call any anime a slice of life as long as it depicts something in an authentic manner. But it wouldn't make any sense with regard to the definition of the term slice of life. You can still think of NHK and Koe as slice of anime for all I care, but quoting the other guy saying that he enjoyed slice of life anime, even tho they obviously had much more going on, that doesn't make much sense imo. |
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FMmatron said: 84DaysWithout said: The narratives of Welcome to the NHK and Koe no Katachi are structured around authentic experiences of social anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts and disorders that cause a person to be othered in a community. Romantic dramas often have strong parallels to SoL. in the context of NHK where Satou is modeled after the stereotypical shut in NEET the psychological tag is related to the authenticity of his depiction. I understand not considering Bebop a SoL. But NHK and KnK are absolutely that to me. I think you're misinterpreting the meaning of slice of life. Here a random definition an example of what ordinary life is like : something (such as a story or movie) that shows what ordinary life is like The story is/shows/presents a slice of life in a small Midwestern town. It's true that welcome to the NHK and Koe no Katachi have slice of life elements, but their defined themes and the narrative focussed on portraying them are overshadowing it. By your logic I could call any anime a slice of life as long as it depicts something in an authentic manner. But it wouldn't make any sense with regard to the definition of the term slice of life. You can still think of NHK and Koe as slice of anime for all I care, but quoting the other guy saying that he enjoyed slice of life anime, even tho they obviously had much more going on, that doesn't make much sense imo. I am not. The themes of both NHK and KnK are authentic to elements of ordinary life. You claim that romantic drama disqualifies KnK from being SoL, but since when is that not a function of life? What perspectives are NHK analyzing from a psychological standpoint? Are they real or imagined? Is the hikikomori perspective not socially relevant to modern Japan? I don't understand at all what you mean by overshadowing. Realism is embedded into the structure of the narratives. >By your logic I could call any anime a slice of life as long as it depicts something in an authentic manner. But it wouldn't make any sense with regard to the definition of the term slice of life. No, you could not. I already listed Bebop as an example of an anime that is not necessarily SoL but has elements relational to such. I don't think Carole and Tuesday is Sol despite it having elements relational to the genre. These are not at all similar to NHK and KnK where you don't have to suspend your disbelief to engage into the narrative. "Much more going on" doesn't disqualify an anime from being SoL if the "much more going on" is all within the realm of realism. That guy doesn't realize that he likes some SoL anime. |
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Gator said: Comedy is how it is indeed not boring. Most serialized comedies are slice-of-life. One watches to laugh, not for the plot.But especially after watching Non Non Biyori I understood that it can just be really calming and funny at the same time. Now it's actually one of my favourite genres, especially paired with comedy and maybe even ecchi :3 But slice of life without being primarily humor-focused or at least something to draw the viewer in in the absence of a plot is indeed just boring. And comedy-drama is also an excellent genre. See my avatar; Boston Legal is a masterpiece of absurdist comedy mixing in very serious political themes; yes — a typical Boston Legal episode is too absurd to possibly be true but it somehow references serious political matter and its political commentary is not at all ruined by the absurdist even fourth-wall breaking humor it enjoys to employ. |
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| Eww Slice-of-life hate Why would anyone willingly bash an anime in that sort of fashion is beyond me. Just watch it for characterization or personal relaxation or if you must spend your time picking out the details of the setting and artwork it is so much better that way. When ever I whach a crazy show that just packs too much action or plot I need to listen to ruminate on the show for at least for 2 weeks just so my brain can heal. And if you still wish to hate on slice-of-life may the god have a mercy on you soul. (copypasta template source) okay, serious answer EvilUnicorn said: It's not my favorite genre but I definitely do like elements of it, particularly its focus on atmosphere and giving things like story events and characterization the time to sink in and time for the audience to reflect on things.What are your thoughts do you find it BORING(WHY?) or do you find it RELAXING and ENGAGING like I DO(it is my FAVORITE GENRE)? Doesn't mean fast pacing is bad; I like a balanced mix of both. Some of my favorite stories have more slice-of-life-y early episodes because they take that time to set up various details and story elements, and the tension/pacing ramps up at the end of the show/season/arc because that's when stuff comes together and happens. |
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| I guess it depends on the show. Anime like Nana , And Great teacher onizuka, Mob Psycho are good slice of life anime. But something like K-ON, Lucky Star, Yuru Camp, A Place Further than the Universe are not cause they don't have a substance they are just slice of nothing so they bore me to death. |
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red-tomato said: people who don't like SoL don't have a life People who don't like people who don't like SoL don't have a life. |
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| Most people who say that have seen like, 2 of them lol The potential of that genre to have a heartfelt and down-to-earth story is basically unlimited. |
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Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said: We need that Yuri Camp spin-off right now, the people have spoken.AncapAnimeGod said: Yuri Camp Not gonna lie, as someone who owns every volume of Yuru Camp, it would be a hundred times better if it were YURI camp. |
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Issmail22Lawfy said: AncapAnimeGod said: I guess it depends on the show. Anime like Nana , And Great teacher onizuka, Mob Psycho are good slice of life anime. But something like K-ON, Lucky Star, Yuri Camp, Adventure to South Pole are not cause they don't have a substance they are just slice of nothing so they bore me to death. How old are you ? how much did you drink before you wrote that reply? or you are just a Troll ? do you even bother yourself to do a simple research mob psycho isn't a Slice of life LOL Are you always this dumb or is a today a special occasion. https://myanimelist.net/anime/32182/Mob_Psycho_100 One look at it's page on MAL and it is clearly evident that Mob Psycho is indeed a Slice of Life anime. Learn2Read Dumbass before you start criticizing others.  |
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Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said: AncapAnimeGod said: Learn2Read Dumbass before you start criticizing others. "Adventure to South Pole." Bloody hell... He edited it to correct the name of Sora Yori but @Issmail22Lawfy had already quoted him lmao |
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| I dont care much about ehat people think of Sol animes.I love watching them.They help to lighten the mood anytime u atch them |
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| People who think slice of life are boring are just people who it doesn't fit their taste. Every genre is boring to some people. I find action stuff boring, in fact a lot of people complain about "shounenshit" and how repetitive and bland it is. Anything can be boring if done poorly, but if you don't like that genre then most anime in are are boring to be boring to you even if they're done well. Watching a bit of that video it's pretty cringy. He acts like slice of life anime are somehow destined to be more boring than the average genre, even though that's clearly not the case. Every slice of life anime has a story of some sort, but that generally isn't the focus. When the story is the focus it would generally fit better into the "drama" genre. This doesn't mean drama anime are automatically better than true slice of life just because they put more emphasis on story, they're just made for different purposes. In Western media generally movies get used for anything with a story while TV series are often slice of life. The Simpsons, Family Guy, Futurama, and pretty much every Disney sitcom I've seen doesn't focus much at all on the story or even intentionally avoids giving itself one for the purpose of prolonging the series. This is not a flaw in them at all because it's comedy and character interactions that give them substance. Some anime with the story taking the light ignore the idea of giving the characters any real meaning and it ends up being a lot more boring than a show about people just chilling. Gintama is one of the most popular anime out there and it's slice of life most of the time, at least in the first 100 episodes. People don't love it because of the occasional serious arcs that make the "boring" slice of life episodes worth sitting through, they generally like it because of all the great comedy and interactions between well written characters. It's an anime that people generally don't complain about episodes not contributing to the plot of the series because they're so enjoyable in their own right. |
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| SoL is such a vague term that doesnt really mean much imo since there are so many different types of shows in this "genre" Working SoL - Uchuu Kyoudai, Shirobako etc Comedy - Lucky Star, Nichijou etc Relaxing - Yuru Camp, Aria etc Episodic/supernatural - Mushishi, Natsume etc Romance - Clannad Toradora etc Character development - 3 Gatsu, Usagi Drop etc Mystery - Hyouka, Haruhi etc I definitely dont find them boring but i do remember being a noob and wondering why an anime about a girl band (K-On) was so popular since Id only tried action stuff at the time. I imagine anyone saying its boring either hasnt tried it or only likes action stuff. |
| Not at all. Slife of Life is like an ice breaker for all the shounen, mecha, isekai, etc. etc. that pops out every season. |
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| Action scenes are the lowest common denominator of entertainment. Most people like it or at least don't mind it. Probably because of the competitive nature of humans we're engrossed when two parties go up against each other with clear winners and losers. Aspects that are pertaining to SoL isn't as widely appreciated for fairly obvious reasons. It's no wonder why the latter is considered boring by more people than the former. OT: Oh right, that wasn't the question. It's personally my favorite genre and one I feel strongly about. |
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| I think its boring when nothing really happens, like an anime about going to school and doing stuff with friends? Thx but thats my life anyways, why would I watch it? When I watch anime I do it to forget about the day to day life and I dont want to watch someone else living pretty much the same life I do. That said I certainly enjoy a slice of life with a decent amount of comedy |
| I used to think it's boring but then I went to Japan... Living in a foreign country was quite stressful, so when I came home I would just put on a slice of life show where nothing happens and relax. Now that I'm back, it's not a part of my routine anymore but I still occasionally watch some when I'm tired. |
| Anything can be boring. It doesn't even necessarily have to do with taste, your mood/mindset at the time is a huge factor too. Often the people that say stuff like this are so close minded about what makes something 'entertaining' that what they like, and how they talk about it, ends up being super boring. So I don't have much sympathy. MobyDictionary said: Not at all. Slife of Life is like an ice breaker for all the shounen, mecha, isekai, etc. etc. that pops out every season. Yeah, man, all that mecha. |
syncrogazerJun 24, 2019 2:31 PM
84DaysWithout said: FMmatron said: I think you're misinterpreting the meaning of slice of life. Here a random definition an example of what ordinary life is like : something (such as a story or movie) that shows what ordinary life is like The story is/shows/presents a slice of life in a small Midwestern town. It's true that welcome to the NHK and Koe no Katachi have slice of life elements, but their defined themes and the narrative focussed on portraying them are overshadowing it. By your logic I could call any anime a slice of life as long as it depicts something in an authentic manner. But it wouldn't make any sense with regard to the definition of the term slice of life. You can still think of NHK and Koe as slice of anime for all I care, but quoting the other guy saying that he enjoyed slice of life anime, even tho they obviously had much more going on, that doesn't make much sense imo. I am not. The themes of both NHK and KnK are authentic to elements of ordinary life. You claim that romantic drama disqualifies KnK from being SoL, but since when is that not a function of life? What perspectives are NHK analyzing from a psychological standpoint? Are they real or imagined? Is the hikikomori perspective not socially relevant to modern Japan? I don't understand at all what you mean by overshadowing. Realism is embedded into the structure of the narratives. >By your logic I could call any anime a slice of life as long as it depicts something in an authentic manner. But it wouldn't make any sense with regard to the definition of the term slice of life. No, you could not. I already listed Bebop as an example of an anime that is not necessarily SoL but has elements relational to such. I don't think Carole and Tuesday is Sol despite it having elements relational to the genre. These are not at all similar to NHK and KnK where you don't have to suspend your disbelief to engage into the narrative. "Much more going on" doesn't disqualify an anime from being SoL if the "much more going on" is all within the realm of realism. That guy doesn't realize that he likes some SoL anime. Ok, let me rephrase it then. I never said that Koe no Katachi or NHK aren't slice of life, just that labelling them as such is misleading, partly slice of life seems more appropriate. There are tons of shows which have slice of life as a subgenre or they incoperate some elements, but it's not the selling point. And I'm more for distinguishing between the anime that are grounded on real life logic, especially in such a thread and within this context where you said Vazka enjoyed slice of life anime, even tho they don't even represent what the "genre" is all about. Slice of life is ambitiounless storytelling where you usually keep the status quo, while NHK and Koe no Katachi reach a climax through their runtime. For instance, Kaze ga Tsuyoku Fuiteiru also fits the criteria, it's bound by realism and portrays the daily life of a track team. My disbelief wasn't suspended yet it's classified as sports and drama. Or Bakuman. It's about 2 upstarting mangaka. Also authentic to elements of daily life, but the battle shounen-esque tropes and elements overshadow the slice of life portion, it's present yet not part of main appeal. So no, I wouldn't say he likes some slice of life, but he likes some anime with slice of life. |
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| I find slice of life anime rather enjoyable than boring. My personal favorites are Azumanga Daioh, Lucky Star, K-On, Squidgirl, Love Live, Himouto and Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid. |
Danzig87Jun 24, 2019 4:04 PM
| I heard this a lot , but I haven't really watched any slice of life that was boring |
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| Any slice of life that is nothing but daily life documentation is an automatic no to me. Shows like Kobayashi have the dragons trying to adapt to human society, learn new things and communicate with others are great. Senko-san is the kind of show that makes me burn out in just a few episodes because it's nothing but getting spoiled by an FBI bait. |
| 「ボクは…確かに現実に絶望している。だけど、自分には絶望していない!! 今がつまらないか…楽しいのか…平凡なのか…決めているのは現実じゃない。決めるのはボクだ!!ボクが望めば不可能はない!!」-桂木桂馬 "True, I've given up on the real world. However, I haven't given up on myself!! The world doesn't get to decide whether my life is boring, fun, or ordinary because that's my decision to make!! As long as I have the will, nothing is impossible!!" -Katsuragi Keima |
| Everything is boring to someone if boredom just means a lack of interest in something causing a viewer/reader/listener to space out, daydream, or otherwise disengage. Some people are definitely more easily bored and selective in their interests in others, but there will always be people who dislike any given genre. First of all, just as any show isn't typically purely one genre of this or that (Like just action with no drama or horror or sci-fi or comedy), a lot of Slice of Life's are also mixed with other genres, such as romance, drama, or comedy, or even something more out there. You can even have a (low/modern or high) fantasy hybrid. I think I tend to appreciate the ones blended with other genres the most, not because I need more plot, but because they show the contrast of Slice of Life against a seemingly incongruent backdrop and allow it to shine even more. Sora no Woto, a show I just finished within the past few weeks, fits this description. It is of the military genre, a war story, set in a post-apocalyptic Earth centuries into the future with the planet undergoing devastation and rapid desertification.....and it's also a Slice of Life. How? A skilled hand can do it and bring it out effectively, because there's Slice of Life in every story. Most just aren't sufficiently slowed down to show us. As for Slice of Life, it isn't boring to me at all. I'd even go as far as to say it's easily one of my favorite genres, but that doesn't mean I readily and blindly embrace all Slice of Life regardless of quality. Looking at two out of my top three anime, two are classified as Slice of Life and given that genre tag. One is mixed with the drama, romance, and psychological genres and the other with fantasy. Some folks believe life is only worthwhile and exciting when everything is heightened and accelerated to a fever pitch to make them experience the most extreme things at the fastest tempo. Others of us consider there to be inherent value in the slower more meandering path, in slowing down the world at times just to watch the dew collect on blades of grass or in long and introspective conversations over biscuits and tea, marveling at and basking in the power and embrace of thought and creation itself. Slice of Life excels because it is a snapshot of the kind of interactions and exchanges, small moments, points of worry or tension or frustration, times of relaxation, and all the other little bits that are more relatable and more commonly found in real life, even if they are transposed to a medieval kingdom, a warzone, or a place the average person wouldn't give a second thought to in regular life. They slow the world down for an opportunity to reflect on and bask in these moments (this can be intellectually rewarding, rewarding in a sensory/pleasure sense, etc.) which gives richness and meaning and novelty and diversity and character to life itself. They don't rely either so much or at all on a plot but let great characters be great characters and allow moments to happen in more naturalistic fashion. This has a mirror effect as its results and success depend on the people involved, mirroring actual life in this way. If you have great characters, it's inspiring, maybe even providing a calm and contemplative environment for you to immerse yourself fully and reflect on issues relevant to your own life. Or to join along for something heartwarming that you find reminds you why it's a great gift to be alive and human. It can remind you to draw and look for beauty from the littlest discoveries, interactions, and experiences, enriching your own life. It's literally life-affirming by instilling value in these facets of everyday life for most people, maybe encouraging some to cherish what they've taken for granted or seek out what they're lacking. And that's more attainable to most than a mythical quest for a sword or an apocalyptic battle on a planetary scale. So it comes down to the characters. Do they make what once seemed mundane appealing? Are their dynamics and interactions genuine and unique and moving? Because when it's so, a Slice of Life show can not only be the best of its own genre, but epitomize the best of this medium. |
WatchTillTandavaJun 24, 2019 4:35 PM
| If it doesnt have genres like Drama or Romance i will found them really boring. Like if its only Slice of life and Comedy then i will probably be really bored watching them. |
FMmatron said: 84DaysWithout said: I am not. The themes of both NHK and KnK are authentic to elements of ordinary life. You claim that romantic drama disqualifies KnK from being SoL, but since when is that not a function of life? What perspectives are NHK analyzing from a psychological standpoint? Are they real or imagined? Is the hikikomori perspective not socially relevant to modern Japan? I don't understand at all what you mean by overshadowing. Realism is embedded into the structure of the narratives. >By your logic I could call any anime a slice of life as long as it depicts something in an authentic manner. But it wouldn't make any sense with regard to the definition of the term slice of life. No, you could not. I already listed Bebop as an example of an anime that is not necessarily SoL but has elements relational to such. I don't think Carole and Tuesday is Sol despite it having elements relational to the genre. These are not at all similar to NHK and KnK where you don't have to suspend your disbelief to engage into the narrative. "Much more going on" doesn't disqualify an anime from being SoL if the "much more going on" is all within the realm of realism. That guy doesn't realize that he likes some SoL anime. Ok, let me rephrase it then. I never said that Koe no Katachi or NHK aren't slice of life, just that labelling them as such is misleading, partly slice of life seems more appropriate. There are tons of shows which have slice of life as a subgenre or they incoperate some elements, but it's not the selling point. And I'm more for distinguishing between the anime that are grounded on real life logic, especially in such a thread and within this context where you said Vazka enjoyed slice of life anime, even tho they don't even represent what the "genre" is all about. Slice of life is ambitiounless storytelling where you usually keep the status quo, while NHK and Koe no Katachi reach a climax through their runtime. For instance, Kaze ga Tsuyoku Fuiteiru also fits the criteria, it's bound by realism and portrays the daily life of a track team. My disbelief wasn't suspended yet it's classified as sports and drama. Or Bakuman. It's about 2 upstarting mangaka. Also authentic to elements of daily life, but the battle shounen-esque tropes and elements overshadow the slice of life portion, it's present yet not part of main appeal. So no, I wouldn't say he likes some slice of life, but he likes some anime with slice of life. Both NHK and KnK are keeping the status quo....all themes used are relational to current social issues. I think you meant to use another term. If you meant being even-keeled then Barakamon isn't even that. It'll make you cry in the end and does have ambition. It does reach a climax and so does K-on. I think where we disagree is in the importance of the SoL in relational to the other genres. Every genre that NHK and KnK have outside of SoL are reliant on the narrative being relational to current events. If realism is the foundation of a genre and other sub genres are used to color the narrative rather than dominate and distort the authenticity, then it is SoL. I would not say partly SoL when being SoL is the foundation of those anime. Everything falls apart if not for it whereas you could get rid of the romantic drama of Koe Katachi (which, spoiler, isn't even consumated. They just could be best friends) and the audience would still be massive. By your restrictive definition I suppose you think Honey & Clover and Sangatsu Lion aren't SoL and that is bizarre to me. I mean these are anime that speak to the souls of viewers struggling through the exact same circumstances of the characters depicted. Being SoL is the selling point. I have not finished the track anime and I don't remember enough about Bakuman specifically to disagree. I have seen Hajime no Ippo and I would agree that it is partly SoL not fully because the sports genre and the way it adopts exaggerated shounen-battle tropes is absolutely paramount. Same with Haikyuu. But none of these are relational to NHK and Katachi. |
84DaysWithoutJun 24, 2019 5:16 PM
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| Just like with every other genre, it really depends on the show. Writing off an entire genre as being boring is stupid, but it's entirely possible that an individual show in that genre is boring. |
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Vazka said: 84DaysWithout said: Welcome to the NHK and Koe no Katachi are SoL anime. You gave both a 9. Gintama and Cowboy Bebop have strong SoL qualities. 9 and 10 respectively. I think the issue is that a lot of critics just don't realize that SoL is a versatile format. Those are not slice of life anime LMAO Why not? Every single genre used is directly relational to current social events. SoL is the foundation to both Koe no Katachi and NHK. A snippet from your own review of NHK - "This anime is the most realistic depiction of social anxiety and agoraphobia I've seen in anime in general. This anime touches on many topics including social anxiety, depression, suicide, drug abuse, and obviously hikikomori. This anime can be very funny at times, and very depressing at other times. Most people like this anime because they can relate to Satou and his struggles. As I said before, it's easily one of the most realistic depiction of social anxiety I've seen in an anime. Not only Satou, but the other characters are relatable as well." ...but not SoL, and why is that? Bebop and Gintama are not SoL, no. Just partly. |
84DaysWithoutJun 24, 2019 5:26 PM
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| @84DaysWithout @FMmatron Maybe I'm a bit late on the discussion but why do you consider correspondence to real life as a sign that something is a slice of life? There's plenty of fantasy slice of life stories out there, and plenty of realistic narrative scenarios that have nothing in SoL (Monster for instance, or Tokyo Magnitude 8.0). I think SoL has to focus on routines and that is a narrative focus, not a specific theme or environment. Routines can be mad, absurd or fantastic and they can be totally true to life. I consider Cowboy Bebop way more of a SoL than Welcome to the NHK, which from the beginning embraces change and pursuing something as the main drive of the story. |
jal90Jun 24, 2019 6:23 PM
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