Attack on Titan
| Everything so far even Mikasa being stronger than average can be acceptable, but Levi (as cool as he is) is just straight up overpowered. Now, we know that he could deal with every titan so far other than the Armored titan (pre thunder spears) in a 1 versus 1 scenario (maybe he can with thunder spears, who knows). The Colossal titan appeared 3 times, for Shinganshina, for Trost, and then during the Reiner - Bertholdt reveal. And he was in none of those locations, sure, Reiner could have escaped Levi due to his neck protection, but the colossal titan would've definitely fallen against Levi, he could've taken his neck before Bertholdt even noticed that he was there, he destroyed Annie and the beast titan (only reason why he didn't take out Annie was because Mikasa intervened). So when will Levi actually be useful for the plot? he's so far just been a plot-device side character who is overpowered but cannot cause any change to the story whatsoever, Annie came back to fight with Eren and it was Eren who took her down, I suspect that Levi won't end up killing the beast titan either, maybe he fights him again but he won't get the killing blow. I feel like it takes away a lot of his epicness knowing that he's not really relevant, even Armin got to take down Bertholdt for good (and maybe Mikasa -> Reiner, depending on if Zeke's promise on replacing him comes true). Will Levi's only real kill come when its his time to die? After all, he's not that much useful now that we know that there are literal war planes, possibly tanks, and rifles in Marley. He had trouble with guns, there's no way he can beat an actual army. |
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So when will Levi actually be useful for the plot? he's so far just been a plot-device side character who is overpowered but cannot cause any change to the story whatsoever It's not like he made the choice between Armin and Erwin! If this isn't bait idk what to say because there are enough counterexamples |
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| Are you sure useful to the plot and being a convenient plot-device aren't really the same thing? Darklycan51 said: he's so far just been a plot-device side character who is overpowered but cannot cause any change to the story whatsoever That just makes him, I don't know, human? And he is a side character. As popular as he is, Eren, Mikasa and Armin were made to shoulder the focus of the main events. This is an anime discussion, so I won't say much, but there's actually a reason for him and Mikasa being overpowered, it was already hinted in anime when Levi asked her if she had a moment when she suddenly felt very powerful. Darklycan51 said: Will Levi's only real kill come when its his time to die? After all, he's not that much useful now that we know that there are literal war planes, possibly tanks, and rifles in Marley. He had trouble with guns, there's no way he can beat an actual army. Does he have to? And what do you mean by real kill? As if he hadn't done enough for humanity already. I understand you want a great spectacle but this whole thing actually makes me very sad. |
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| lol using buzzwords like plot device can really degrade the quality of a characters role now isnt it i do not mind if the only role of Levi is that of a super soldier really i like that cool factor about him |
JeXxTaR said: She could've gotten that role but she didn't, wdym? Esquirtit said: It's not like he made the choice between Armin and Erwin! If this isn't bait idk what to say because there are enough counterexamples well, hange could have that role Either way OP is on some other shit, Levi is a plot device but somehow can't cause a change in the story? What does that even mean? He's obviously trolling |
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Darklycan51 said: Now, we know that he could deal with every titan so far other than the Armored titan (pre thunder spears) in a 1 versus 1 scenario (maybe he can with thunder spears, who knows). The only Titan he's shows to be able to beat was the beast Titan. He wouldn't be able to kill the colossal Titan or armored titan(arguably with thunder spears) and he couldn't kill the female titan either. Darklycan51 said: The Colossal titan appeared 3 times, for Shinganshina, for Trost, and then during the Reiner - Bertholdt reveal. And he was in none of those locations, sure, Reiner could have escaped Levi due to his neck protection, but the colossal titan would've definitely fallen against Levi, he could've taken his neck before Bertholdt even noticed that he was there, he destroyed Annie and the beast titan (only reason why he didn't take out Annie was because Mikasa intervened). Levi didn't kill Annie because they couldn't due to her hardening ability. I also don't think he could have killed the Colossal Titan cuz i'm assuming he would have felt Levi attaching to him and just used his steam. I would disagree that Levi had no impact on the story though considering it was his decision as to who got the colossal titan. |
JeXxTaR said: I don't agree that there are too many, why do you think that? The scale is pretty big so it does need a lot of characters to make sense of the story. Is your complaint that with there being so many some of them didn't receive enough development so far? I would agree but this where the real drama starts anyway, everyone will inevitably change by this crazy reveal of the truth. Esquirtit said: She could've gotten that role but she didn't, wdym? Either way OP is on some other shit, Levi is a plot device but somehow can't cause a change in the story? What does that even mean? He's obviously trolling I say this because I really think SnK would be better if it didn't have so many characters. I don't see how what you said connects to this anyway, Hange and Levi served different roles inside of the Survey Corps. Having the super soldier doing the documentary and research wouldn't be a logical dynamic |
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laviha said: next time op will be saying Levi is just a fanservice xD sexual fanservice for the female fans but action fanservice for the male fans i can definitely see it |
laviha said: deg said: sexual fanservice for the female fans but action fanservice for the male fans i can definitely see it But he wasn't even meant to be attractive in the first place tho so assuming he's a sexual fanservice is wrong isn't it? He does look attractive in the anime but in manga he's quite ugly im only imagining the fangirls reaction to Levi so ye i do not know really since im a male or (slight) bisexual but im more attracted to feminine looking guys |
| Well yes, but actually no. |
| Everything is a Plot Device. There is no such thing as a non convenient plot device. If there is plot every character and every event is a convenient plot device because they all lead to certain events. |
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| Levi is overpowered for good reason. It will be revealed later. It is not a plot device. Also, I don't see what is wrong in a plot device. Most of the anime have them. Even anime like hunter x hunter that are critically acclaimed have those. (edit : This example is actually a bad use of a plot device.) edit 2 : a good use of plot device from the same anime - |
Chrome_FalconJun 19, 2019 1:19 AM
| Here's an analysis that does a great job of explaining Levi's character. |
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That's a nice analysis, thanks for sharing. |
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NakolHira said: Think about it, if there was no Levi what would have happened to the story. You can say that with most of the characters,you're giving him too much importance, |
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SethBigBoss said: If everyone was weak, there wouldn't be much of a story, would there? In life there are always people who are really good at what they do. Levi just happens to be that, in the attack on titan world. There is so much more, but that goes into manga territory so I'll leave it at that.NakolHira said: Think about it, if there was no Levi what would have happened to the story. You can say that with most of the characters,you're giving him too much importance, |
Thorf said: SethBigBoss said: If everyone was weak, there wouldn't be much of a story, would there? In life there are always people who are really good at what they do. Levi just happens to be that, in the attack on titan world. There is so much more, but that goes into manga territory so I'll leave it at that.You can say that with most of the characters,you're giving him too much importance, It's not like everyone except Levi is weak...We know that when there is a fight Levi is sure to win there's is no tension around him. Don't bring real life here, Levi's equivalent in real life doesn't exist, even if someone is good at something mistakes can be made that's what being human is. And to begin with I was talking about the importance of the characters for the story "if X was not here then ..." not who's strong or weak. |
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SethBigBoss said: I say weak, but they're not exactly weak. Just compared to Levi they are. I'm not saying Levi's equivalent in real life exists at all, I'm just saying in real life there are some that are exceptional at what they do. This is basically Levi, exceptional at... killing. He has many flaws, which is what makes him a great character imo.Thorf said: If everyone was weak, there wouldn't be much of a story, would there? In life there are always people who are really good at what they do. Levi just happens to be that, in the attack on titan world. There is so much more, but that goes into manga territory so I'll leave it at that. It's not like everyone except Levi is weak...We know that when there is a fight Levi is sure to win there's is no tension around him. Don't bring real life here, Levi's equivalent in real life doesn't exist, even if someone is good at something mistakes can be made that's what being human is. And to begin with I was talking about the importance of the characters for the story "if X was not here then ..." not who's strong or weak. |
| If you are still power ranking the characters, you are not watching this show properly. Simple as that. and no, he is not a convenient plot device. Levi may be the strongest character, but he was never the hero who saved the day. He is strong so someone can fight the battle that no one else could, and make the decision that no one else would. Every show needs someone like Levi, and Shingeki no Kyojin is no exception. |
| This time you got a point I think (well, your previous controversial thread actually had good points too if only you were not being sexist there) ... I still remember in the first season how pissed I was when Levi could not killed Annie.. To be honest, all scout squad except for Eren's class are treated really bad in this series.. Pretty much like what also happened in Captain Tsubasa and Naruto ... |
"The Slave is the have-not, the oppressed one with nothing to spare. But because the Slave is in that despairing situation, having nothing, it can kill the Emperor !" |
| Levi is pretty much the power seal in Attack on Titan. Hardly anyone comes close to him, titan or human. It's a shame that the Uprising was rewriten otherwise we would've seen a different Levi. A very humanized one. Levi vs Beast Titan (manga spoilers) |
azertz99Jun 20, 2019 1:39 PM
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