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You assume homoerotic acts were regarded as inherently attraction matter in the ancient cultures you referrenced (Ancient Greece or Rome) or militaristic circles but that's where you go wrong. Homoerotic intercourse was seen as a display of power/means of passing wisdom to younger boys.

In Greece, it was okay for a master to have intercourse with their acolite, but showing romantic affection wasn't. Semen was a font of wisdom in their perception.

In Rome and other militaristic cultures, it was okay for an official to penetrate a lower ranked colleague, but never under any circumstance be penetrated by him. In the poetry of Catulus, time and time again you can see him humilliating critics by alluding to their preferred passive position in a man/man relationship, as well as implying being penetrated is humiliating. Some Roman Emperors were accused of being "effeminate", that meaning they were accused of having romantic feelings for their "underlings". Therefore, it wasn't a matter of "sexual attraction", which your saying of "every human being is 'bisexual'" implies, it was a matter of power dynamics reinforcement. That's not even mentioning the views on homoerotic acts for women as an abysmal insanity, but that's asking too much, since you said "human beings" and to those cultures, women weren't even citizens.

What I mean is using their cultures as woke folder won't work much, since you incur in such strong anachronism it invalidates your reasoning. If homoerotic intercourse was seen as acceptable only for one part of the equation (that being of the penetrator), same-sex attraction wasn't accepted. If homoeroctic intercourse was seen as acceptable only if no romantic feelings were involved, same-sex attraction wasn't accepted. If homoerotic intercourse was seen as acceptable only if it were to reinforce who was the more powerful/wise of the two men, same-sex attraction wasn't accepted. If there were endless laws in different cultures regarding "effeminate" men or homoromantic displays, it's because not every human being was "bisexual", it's just that homoerotic intercourse wasn't seen as a display of attraction, but of superiority, that being why it was so prominent in militaristic circles.
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KindUnicorn said:
xaow said:

so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself?



First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website?
Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored?


That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade.
"discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.
 
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why celebrate something so common or so normal? lol meanwhile those gay pride stuff are still needed due to still having less rights for those gays like most countries do not yet accept gay marriage for example
"still needed due to still having less rights for those gays" MATE LOL Literally the entirety of the west is at a all time high for gay acceptance, unprecedented in fact. Why have a pride parade in a place where this is no discrimination? It is mostly happening overseas, why not go to those countries and do it then? Straight people are actually being discriminated against in the west right now, so why do they not have a equal right to do the same? Can you see how much of a contradiction it is to say straight people shouldn't have a parade? A quick answer to see why people think straight people shouldn't have a pride parade is due to a deep rooted bias that anything relating to straight people is right wing and therefore bad since it's been slammed by mainstream media for the past 5 years. Anyone who can actually think for themselves for a second and not let mainstream media or anything else influence their opinion would see it is perfectly OK to have a straight pride parade.
 
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Cneq said:
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why celebrate something so common or so normal? lol meanwhile those gay pride stuff are still needed due to still having less rights for those gays like most countries do not yet accept gay marriage for example
"still needed due to still having less rights for those gays" MATE LOL Literally the entirety of the west is at a all time high for gay acceptance, unprecedented in fact. Why have a pride parade in a place where this is no discrimination? It is mostly happening overseas, why not go to those countries and do it then? Straight people are actually being discriminated against in the west right now, so why do they not have a equal right to do the same? Can you see how much of a contradiction it is to say straight people shouldn't have a parade? A quick answer to see why people think straight people shouldn't have a pride parade is due to a deep rooted bias that anything relating to straight people is right wing and therefore bad since it's been slammed by mainstream media for the past 5 years. Anyone who can actually think for themselves for a second and not let mainstream media or anything else influence their opinion would see it is perfectly OK to have a straight pride parade.


this is not just coming from the muh bias media but your government agencies too like this one
https://www.cdc.gov/msmhealth/stigma-and-discrimination.htm
Gay and bisexual youth and other sexual minorities are more likely to be rejected by their families. This increases the possibility of them becoming homeless. Around 40% of homeless youth are LGBT. A study published in 2009 compared gay, lesbian, and bisexual young adults who experienced strong rejection from their families with their peers who had more supportive families. The researchers found that those who experienced stronger rejection were about:

8 times more likely to have tried to commit suicide
6 times more likely to report high levels of depression
3 times more likely to use illegal drugs
3 times more likely to have risky sex
 
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What is there to be proud of? May as well be proud of having lungs.
 
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deg said:
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"still needed due to still having less rights for those gays" MATE LOL Literally the entirety of the west is at a all time high for gay acceptance, unprecedented in fact. Why have a pride parade in a place where this is no discrimination? It is mostly happening overseas, why not go to those countries and do it then? Straight people are actually being discriminated against in the west right now, so why do they not have a equal right to do the same? Can you see how much of a contradiction it is to say straight people shouldn't have a parade? A quick answer to see why people think straight people shouldn't have a pride parade is due to a deep rooted bias that anything relating to straight people is right wing and therefore bad since it's been slammed by mainstream media for the past 5 years. Anyone who can actually think for themselves for a second and not let mainstream media or anything else influence their opinion would see it is perfectly OK to have a straight pride parade.


this is not just coming from the muh bias media but your government agencies too like this one
https://www.cdc.gov/msmhealth/stigma-and-discrimination.htm
Gay and bisexual youth and other sexual minorities are more likely to be rejected by their families. This increases the possibility of them becoming homeless. Around 40% of homeless youth are LGBT. A study published in 2009 compared gay, lesbian, and bisexual young adults who experienced strong rejection from their families with their peers who had more supportive families. The researchers found that those who experienced stronger rejection were about:

8 times more likely to have tried to commit suicide
6 times more likely to report high levels of depression
3 times more likely to use illegal drugs
3 times more likely to have risky sex
Please give me a more up to date source man. 2009 is WAY too old and I can actually see those statistics being true back then. Like I said the acceptance of gays in the west is unprecedented in the last 5 years.
 
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Cneq said:
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this is not just coming from the muh bias media but your government agencies too like this one
https://www.cdc.gov/msmhealth/stigma-and-discrimination.htm
Gay and bisexual youth and other sexual minorities are more likely to be rejected by their families. This increases the possibility of them becoming homeless. Around 40% of homeless youth are LGBT. A study published in 2009 compared gay, lesbian, and bisexual young adults who experienced strong rejection from their families with their peers who had more supportive families. The researchers found that those who experienced stronger rejection were about:

8 times more likely to have tried to commit suicide
6 times more likely to report high levels of depression
3 times more likely to use illegal drugs
3 times more likely to have risky sex
Please give me a more up to date source man. 2009 is WAY too old and I can actually see those statistics being true back then. Like I said the acceptance of gays in the west is unprecedented in the last 5 years.


2009 is still recent by scientific studies standards of time same with government funded studies like census or surveys

and im sure the fact that they still not provide up to date study about it means the data they collected is still very much relevant

but if you can provide much updated counter studies against this one then sure i concede
 
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What is there to be proud of? May as well be proud of having lungs.
Mate you can literally use that same logic against gay pride. What's there to be proud of? Having a different sexual orientation and being "tough" since they struggled? Why don't we have a homeless pride parade then? There are plenty of homeless vets and middle aged people in the streets that have certainly struggled just as hard, where's their parade? There is literally no reason for only gays to have the privilege of a parade.
 
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I'm very happy about it. I see no reason to have an LGBT parade but not a straight parade. Seems rather exclusionary.
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The only parade I would march in would be a Lolicon pride parade since lolicons are still misunderstood and oppressed.
And this.
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deg said:
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Please give me a more up to date source man. 2009 is WAY too old and I can actually see those statistics being true back then. Like I said the acceptance of gays in the west is unprecedented in the last 5 years.


2009 is still recent by scientific studies standards of time same with government funded studies like census or surveys

and im sure the fact that they still not provide up to date study about it means the data they collected is still very much relevant

but if you can provide much updated counter studies against this one then sure i concede
No idea what "scientific studies standards" you're going from but something from 10 years ago is outdated in any institution and not very credible [Especially when there has been a notable change in the past 5 years]. I'm not going to go search on the internet to find you a better source, go find one yourself if you want it to prove your point.
 
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Alot of negativity here in this thread...
Personally as long as it brings people together, I'm ok with it. Is good to see people come together, express their sexuality and being themselves.
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Scud said:
What is there to be proud of? May as well be proud of having lungs.
Hey Hey Hey!!
We'll have none of that here. Be happy something saw fit to bless you with two beautifully pinkish-grey lungs that work. COPD and Asthma suck, especially when it comes to smoking. jk
You're right though
 
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DiscoDespot said:
The only parade I would march in would be a Lolicon pride parade since lolicons are still misunderstood and oppressed.
And this.
AND ALLLLLL OF THIS. I would rather be gay and get disowned + electrocuted by Mike Pence than come out as a loli meister.
 
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Looks like no one did any research. Pride parades started as a type of rights movement not as a celebration.
https://www.history.com/news/how-activists-plotted-the-first-gay-pride-parades

In the majority of the US states there is no protections for LGBT to be fired from their jobs or evicted from their homes.
https://www.freedomforallamericans.org/states/
There is no federal laws that explicitly ban LGBT discrimination either
https://time.com/5554531/equality-act-lgbt-rights-trump/

The straight pride parade is not sincerely about inclusivity. It's literally just trolling to make a statement against identity politics while hypocritically spouting more identity politics as it's basis of reasoning on why it should be done. So it just makes them look stupid.
 
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In the majority of the US states there is no protections for LGBT to be fired from their jobs or evicted from their homes.
https://www.freedomforallamericans.org/states/
I don't agree that any group, be it gay or straight, black or white, you name it, should be protected. Also what would prevent a law like this from being abused by people who were genuinely fired for being bad at their job and who happen to be LGBT? This already happens even without such laws.
 
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I'm pretty sure Milo only want that for some new spicy memes and butthurt leftwing.
That 30+ year old boomer that teaches paleontology during a hentai review on MAL. *sips*
Anime was indeed a mistake, since we prefer 2D waifu's over 3D wamen.
 
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traed said:
In the majority of the US states there is no protections for LGBT to be fired from their jobs or evicted from their homes.
https://www.freedomforallamericans.org/states/
I don't agree that any group, be it gay or straight, black or white, you name it, should be protected. Also what would prevent a law like this from being abused by people who were genuinely fired for being bad at their job and who happen to be LGBT? This already happens even without such laws.

Do you really want to be banned from work and kicked out of your home and denied emergency medical treatment because you watch anime?
 
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Aldnox said:
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In the majority of the US states there is no protections for LGBT to be fired from their jobs or evicted from their homes.
https://www.freedomforallamericans.org/states/
I don't agree that any group, be it gay or straight, black or white, you name it, should be protected. Also what would prevent a law like this from being abused by people who were genuinely fired for being bad at their job and who happen to be LGBT? This already happens even without such laws.
what about ppl who are good at their jobs and want to eat but just can't help but like sucking cock?

holy fuck some of u guys have ur heads so far up ur asses. have u ever had a job before? if so u've probably had at least one manager/boss/supervisor/etc. who is an asshole. u don't see the potential for discriminatory firing at all? i can't believe the amount of delusion to say anti-discrimination protections should not be in place. where the fuck do u live, idaho?
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i, personally, would gladly be fisted by every single strong female character until my asshole explodes, permanently rendering me into a coma
 
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I will be so very happy when Skynet comes and we ascend to a higher plane of existence. It is a wonder we actually made it this far when humanity spends 97% of its efforts and energy towards its primal sexuality. So much so, that most of you couldn't even fathom an existence devoid of sexuality, even if you are not sexually active. On that day we shall realize a true meritocracy and many imbalances shall be purged. Forever. I sure will miss the monster girls and anthros tho. ;_;
 
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as observe by many already the moderators are lax on enforcing the strict rules now that the forum is dying

but as you can see controversial topics like this really makes the forum activity alive
 
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You lost me at "Milo Yiannopoulos" ........
 
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You lost me at "Milo Yiannopoulos" ........


Lol. Milo is just a step ahead in the game. If you want all the magnificent cock for yourself, then you need to be a champion for all the cocks. It is like reverse virtue signaling, of which I do believe he is a pioneer of. I mean, it is unfortunate all the good, masculine men are straight. >;3

( I thought one of the most frequent gay fantasies was blowing a reluctant straight guy gay)
 
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Aldnox said:
I don't agree that any group, be it gay or straight, black or white, you name it, should be protected. Also what would prevent a law like this from being abused by people who were genuinely fired for being bad at their job and who happen to be LGBT? This already happens even without such laws.
what about ppl who are good at their jobs and want to eat but just can't help but like sucking cock?
What about them? I'm perfectly fine with them.

traed said:
Aldnox said:
I don't agree that any group, be it gay or straight, black or white, you name it, should be protected. Also what would prevent a law like this from being abused by people who were genuinely fired for being bad at their job and who happen to be LGBT? This already happens even without such laws.

Do you really want to be banned from work and kicked out of your home and denied emergency medical treatment because you watch anime?
No. I don't support discrimination. I asked what would prevent such a law from being abused.

deg said:
as observe by many already the moderators are lax on enforcing the strict rules now that the forum is dying

but as you can see controversial topics like this really makes the forum activity alive
Actually I think some moderators are a bit too happy about locking threads and hiding behind vaguely defined rules to excuse it.
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No. I don't support discrimination. I asked what would prevent such a law from being abused.

So you admit that lack of such legal protections can be abused.

What some places have is a just cause needed for doing a certain act to someone. It's not perfect but it may be of use. Also as far as entry into an apartment complex or job or something some places just require certain things can't be asked on application that would be used as basis of certain types of discrimination at least in cases where it's irrelevant.
 
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Obviously this is useless and a troll. Straight pride parade... lmao. Sounds like a parade for snowflakes.

"Mom, they have their pride parade. What about meeee?"
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No. I don't support discrimination. I asked what would prevent such a law from being abused.

So you admit that lack of such legal protections can be abused.

What some places have is a just cause needed for doing a certain act to someone. It's not perfect but it may be of use. Also as far as entry into an apartment complex or job or something some places just require certain things can't be asked on application that would be used as basis of certain types of discrimination at least in cases where it's irrelevant.
That's not what I meant. I said a law "protecting" LGBT people from being fired could be abused by using LGBT as an excuse to prevent underperforming people from being fired.
 
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So you admit that lack of such legal protections can be abused.

What some places have is a just cause needed for doing a certain act to someone. It's not perfect but it may be of use. Also as far as entry into an apartment complex or job or something some places just require certain things can't be asked on application that would be used as basis of certain types of discrimination at least in cases where it's irrelevant.
That's not what I meant. I said a law "protecting" LGBT people from being fired could be abused by using LGBT as an excuse to prevent underperforming people from being fired.

If a just cause is given they can still fire them or whatever it may be.
 
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That's probably the stupidest idea I've heard all year. Thank you anime database website. Glad to see everything is looking totally normal in here as always
 
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That's probably the stupidest idea I've heard all year. Thank you anime database website. Glad to see everything is looking totally normal in here as always


Why don't we celebrate how straight we are. I'll provide the beer and the hookers.
 
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even i, as big of a wreck as I am, have something better to do with my life and time than to care about this shit.


Never know how I wanted to feel

Never quite said what I wanted to say to you
Never quite managed the words to explain to you
Never quite knew how to make them believable
And now the time has gone, another time undone
I'll never lose this pain, never dream of you again




 
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That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade.
"discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.


"Citation needed" What evidence do you have that st8 people are being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so.

Gay people are being discriminated even now as we speak in middle east and russia and many other countries.

Things have been better in west recently only thanks to activism, but even in west they still face discrimination and prejudice from religious conservatives and edgy right-wingers in general.

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_the_Middle_East
https://thinkprogress.org/15-examples-of-anti-gay-discrimination-conservatives-want-to-preserve-597e54585a23/
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/house-passes-equality-act-lgbt-rights-discrimination
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2018/01/18/445130/discrimination-prevents-lgbtq-people-accessing-health-care/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-catholic-alt-right-aims-purge-homosexuals-church-n934681
 
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Straight people don't need 'pride' because nobody is telling them to feel ashamed. This is a fascist project, or at the very least leaning in that direction.
 
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Straight people don't need 'pride' because nobody is telling them to feel ashamed. This is a fascist project, or at the very least leaning in that direction.


Calm down. Calling this a fascist project is quite an over reaction
 
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Cneq said:
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That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade.
"discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.




do share, dear sir, all the oh-so horrible oppression straights have been withstanding for as long as lgbt people have


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logopolis said:
Straight people don't need 'pride' because nobody is telling them to feel ashamed. This is a fascist project, or at the very least leaning in that direction.


Calm down. Calling this a fascist project is quite an over reaction


Perfectly calm. I merely have a pretty good understanding of the 'alt-right', so I know what they're doing here.
 
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Cneq said:
"discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.




do share, dear sir, all the oh-so horrible oppression straights have been withstanding for as long as lgbt people have


The gay people spilled hot coffee on the straight people.
 
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"discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.


"Citation needed" What evidence do you have that st8 people are being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so.

Gay people are being discriminated even now as we speak in middle east and russia and many other countries.

Things have been better in west recently only thanks to activism, but even in west they still face discrimination and prejudice from religious conservatives and edgy right-wingers in general.

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_the_Middle_East
https://thinkprogress.org/15-examples-of-anti-gay-discrimination-conservatives-want-to-preserve-597e54585a23/
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/house-passes-equality-act-lgbt-rights-discrimination
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2018/01/18/445130/discrimination-prevents-lgbtq-people-accessing-health-care/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-catholic-alt-right-aims-purge-homosexuals-church-n934681
Gay people in the middle east and other 3rd world countries are certainly being treated poorly, I didn't once deny this so no need to go and pull out a bunch of articles about it. No idea if I said this before but I was only speaking on the topic of western countries and how they treat gays.

Straight people being discriminated against is certainly on the rise and the push of activism may of sought equality, but now it's been pushed in the opposite direction. Equality can't be won by making the other side unequal, not that hard to understand.

Soruces:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/feb/21/candace-wiggins-stanford-university-basketball
https://www.rooshv.com/the-rise-of-heterophobia
https://www.reuters.com/article/legal-us-otc-titlevii/hetero-employees-cant-claim-reverse-discrimination-when-federal-law-doesnt-shield-gays-lesbians-judge-idUSKBN1EX246
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/a-straight-case-of-discrimination-lawsuits-come-in-all-shades-for-us-institutions/413172.article
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/01/gayrights.features11
 
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"discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.




do share, dear sir, all the oh-so horrible oppression straights have been withstanding for as long as lgbt people have
You must be missing the point that activism for LGBT [or this entire climate in the last 5 years] is the reason oppression of straights has begun to happen, it's tipped the balance, not made equality. And oppression is oppression, the amount of time it has happened for is irrelevant. If somehow gays just started being oppressed in the last decade would that make you think it's less bad despite the same things happening? Not sure about you but I'd say that would be madness.
 
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iasuru said:
Lunafleurette said:




do share, dear sir, all the oh-so horrible oppression straights have been withstanding for as long as lgbt people have


The gay people spilled hot coffee on the straight people.


oh yikes that is pretty bad, it's 2019 the hot drink to spill is tea


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Cneq said:
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"Citation needed" What evidence do you have that st8 people are being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so.

Gay people are being discriminated even now as we speak in middle east and russia and many other countries.

Things have been better in west recently only thanks to activism, but even in west they still face discrimination and prejudice from religious conservatives and edgy right-wingers in general.

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_the_Middle_East
https://thinkprogress.org/15-examples-of-anti-gay-discrimination-conservatives-want-to-preserve-597e54585a23/
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/house-passes-equality-act-lgbt-rights-discrimination
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2018/01/18/445130/discrimination-prevents-lgbtq-people-accessing-health-care/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-catholic-alt-right-aims-purge-homosexuals-church-n934681
Gay people in the middle east and other 3rd world countries are certainly being treated poorly, I didn't once deny this so no need to go and pull out a bunch of articles about it. No idea if I said this before but I was only speaking on the topic of western countries and how they treat gays.

Straight people being discriminated against is certainly on the rise and the push of activism may of sought equality, but now it's been pushed in the opposite direction. Equality can't be won by making the other side unequal, not that hard to understand.

Soruces:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/feb/21/candace-wiggins-stanford-university-basketball
https://www.rooshv.com/the-rise-of-heterophobia
https://www.reuters.com/article/legal-us-otc-titlevii/hetero-employees-cant-claim-reverse-discrimination-when-federal-law-doesnt-shield-gays-lesbians-judge-idUSKBN1EX246
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/a-straight-case-of-discrimination-lawsuits-come-in-all-shades-for-us-institutions/413172.article
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/01/gayrights.features11


So if it's on the rise, how many percent of it has increased.
Nice rooshy.com opinion article btw. Those are very hard, true facts.
 
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Straighties were never imprisoned/sentenced to death/thrown off buildings because of their sexuality, therefore Straight Pride makes absolutely no sense.
 
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iasuru said:
Cneq said:
Gay people in the middle east and other 3rd world countries are certainly being treated poorly, I didn't once deny this so no need to go and pull out a bunch of articles about it. No idea if I said this before but I was only speaking on the topic of western countries and how they treat gays.

Straight people being discriminated against is certainly on the rise and the push of activism may of sought equality, but now it's been pushed in the opposite direction. Equality can't be won by making the other side unequal, not that hard to understand.

Soruces:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/feb/21/candace-wiggins-stanford-university-basketball
https://www.rooshv.com/the-rise-of-heterophobia
https://www.reuters.com/article/legal-us-otc-titlevii/hetero-employees-cant-claim-reverse-discrimination-when-federal-law-doesnt-shield-gays-lesbians-judge-idUSKBN1EX246
https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/a-straight-case-of-discrimination-lawsuits-come-in-all-shades-for-us-institutions/413172.article
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/01/gayrights.features11


So if it's on the rise, how many percent of it has increased.
Nice rooshy.com opinion article btw. Those are very hard, true facts.
I literally took 5 minutes on google to round up information, if you want something more credible go research it yourself.
 
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Straighties were never imprisoned/sentenced to death/thrown off buildings because of their sexuality, therefore Straight Pride makes absolutely no sense.
So being proud of anything and starting a parade for it requires you to be imprisoned, sentenced to death yada yada yada to be allowed to exist? Nice logic.
 
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Cneq said:
iasuru said:


So if it's on the rise, how many percent of it has increased.
Nice rooshy.com opinion article btw. Those are very hard, true facts.
I literally took 5 minutes on google to round up information, if you want something more credible go research it yourself.


OK, then post here. So everyone can see this heterophobia you are talking about.
 
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Cneq said:
I literally took 5 minutes on google to round up information, if you want something more credible go research it yourself.


OK, then post here. So everyone can see this heterophobia you are talking about.
I said I spent 5 minutes rounding up the articles you had a issue with before, I'm not going to go get more information for you. Like I said if you want to dig deeper that's up to you.
 
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OK, then post here. So everyone can see this heterophobia you are talking about.
I said I spent 5 minutes rounding up the articles you had a issue with before, I'm not going to go get more information for you. Like I said if you want to dig deeper that's up to you.


I'm asking for the figure that oppression of straight people is rising up.
 
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If I were to use the same logic that people accuse others as being "homophobic", Isn't being against a straight pride parade basically heterophobic? If someone is against a pride parade, that person is automatically "oppressing" gays, according to most people. So why is it alright to be against a straight pride parade? Just because straight people shouldn't have equal ability to have a parade? No idea if I'm missing something here but a straight pride parade being such a contested topic speaks wonders by itself as unequal views about straights. Like I've always been accepting of anyone doing anything. I live strongly by the words "whatever floats your boat" as long as it doesn't harm others and adheres by basic human morality I think anyone should be able to express themselves. So why should straight people be treated any different?
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iasuru said:
Cneq said:
I said I spent 5 minutes rounding up the articles you had a issue with before, I'm not going to go get more information for you. Like I said if you want to dig deeper that's up to you.


I'm asking for the figure that oppression of straight people is rising up.
Like I said the articles I linked didn't have a figure, if you want more information go research it. With the issue being so recent there obviously hasn't been enough time for credible case studies to be conducted [which is where you'll get your figures from].
 
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Cneq said:
Kayn said:
Straighties were never imprisoned/sentenced to death/thrown off buildings because of their sexuality, therefore Straight Pride makes absolutely no sense.
So being proud of anything and starting a parade for it requires you to be imprisoned, sentenced to death yada yada yada to be allowed to exist? Nice logic.

You seem to be missing the point of pride all together. More than a parade, it was, an to some extend still is, a riot. I see no reason for the heteros to riot.
 
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Kayn said:
Cneq said:
So being proud of anything and starting a parade for it requires you to be imprisoned, sentenced to death yada yada yada to be allowed to exist? Nice logic.


You seem to be missing the point of pride all together. More than a parade, it was, an to some extend is, a riot. I see no reason for the heteros to riot.
So you're saying pride parades are about rebelling and showing anger for their oppression? Not for expressing their pride of being gay and showing others it's okay? That sounds a lot different than what LGBT people usually advertise with their parades. Unless you're meaning of "riot" is different than mine
 
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