You've got one clip to sell someone on watching anime - what do you pick?

syncrogazer said:

It's just a joke about the whole 'age-rating' thing.


I also rephrased some other things which I thought were important in terms of nuance, which is what I was really referring to. But I think I have a right to be a bit of a dick when someone passively-aggressively 'OKs' me and then tells me what basically amounts to 'I'm not hear to discuss your beliefs' while at the same time continuing to interpret those same 'beliefs' in question as some sort of unfair treatment of their ideas, which I had never intended it to be...like I feel like a lot of this conversation is made up of weird misunderstandings that just aren't going away for whatever reason. It could be my fault too, but I don't think I'm coming across as confrontational or insulting, this is just how I talk online. And maybe other than my first two posts in the thread which were too brief to really contain much of anything, I believe I've engaged with your ideas, or what I had of them, in good faith.


I only used Karakuri Kiden as an example because it's fresh in my mind. I know that hardly anyone has watched it, but I figured if I explained it well enough that wouldn't really matter. Hopefully I was successful. Though I can't stress enough that the anime really feels like a family show, and not in the typical shounen way but in an actual 'sit down with your parents' kind of way.

From what I remember of Afro Samurai it's just super stylized violence made specifically for a Western audience.

You mention GITS and Madlax immediately comes to my mind as a weird parallel, where it isn't necessarily the plot but the show's subtext that is most likely going to be completely unintelligible to someone too young, but the superficial aspects of it (girls with guns, cool setting etc.) could certainly attract a younger audience. Even stranger, it has an incredibly high body count, but no actual visible blood which makes it harder to define its violence in terms of extreme or explicit, but is definitely ever-present. Yeah, having such few shows in common means we're just going to keep talking about shit one of us has never seen.

A lot of the time, I think maturity means just that in this context: ones ability to handle content at a certain level and an anime's ability to handle its own content with the right amount of self-awareness to properly connect with an audience. But, it's pretty obvious that more detailed that this conversation gets the more we'll end up agreeing rather than disagreeing. I think think the difference in the end is going to be our respective cut-offs for what makes something 'kiddish' or not, with my own personal tendency to see extreme bloody violence as mostly spectacle which comes across as immature, much like vulgarity (I'll never deny my own immaturity though nor how little I care about how 'mature' any anime I watch is or isn't).

CallMeHoot said:
This scene from the end of the first episode of Made In Abyss

Savasvania said:


I'm still not that far in. We talking the one where he talks about the opponent who lost because he was weak and not that it was Rei's fault? That was hard to watch.