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Jul 7, 7:34 PM

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Super sad episode. So Zeke finally showed himself to Eren. He spoke about Erens father and I really wonder what his relationship was. Also the fact that he mentioned Eren got brainwashed, I don't know what to think of.

Of course this weird titan and Zeke were able to free Reiner. I don't know how much luck this guy even has. You could see how pissed Jean was over himself. They missed both opportunities. The first was when Levi didn't killed the beast and now this.

With all those burns at his body I couldn't even imagine Armin being alive. Same goes for Erwin. The drama especially between Levi, Eren and Mikasa was crazy. The VA's made an incredible job. But what's right in this situation when you're Levi? This has to be one of the worst decissions to make.

On one side there's Erwin, the commander who's one of the most important persons in the war against the titans. On the other side there's Armin, who's very talented with his ideas (even if he's not a leader type) and without it in the past Eren and Co. would maybe already be dead.

It got me so emotional to see Mikasa, Eren, almost everyone cry ;_;

It seemed like Erwin was dreaming when he hit Levi who wanted to give him the injection. To see Armin as a titan seemed a little bit unreal. But at least Berthold got what he deserved. I couldn't believe when he was screaming for help.

I will miss Erwin. R.I.P.

And now the time has come to see what inside basement. This season is so crazy, my god.
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Jul 9, 12:41 PM

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Really sad about Erwin and a tough choice for Levi to make.

It would've made more sense to bring him back due to his experience, and Levi would've, but he realized Erwin had already made up his mind to give up his dream and sacrifice himself with the others for the sake of taking down the Beast titan.

I'm guessing it would've messed him up if he were revived after leading all of those soldiers to their deaths on top of the many others who had already died on previous missions.
 
Jul 14, 7:00 AM

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Oh my god this episode.
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Jul 14, 11:07 PM

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Yes, Armin survived!

Thank god for plot armor.
 
Jul 15, 3:05 AM

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You'd think that small Titan would have no business trying to rescue Reiner & Bertolt and would instead try to sneak away but I guess with the same retarded convenience the Beast titan was saved Reiner also can be.

But at least all that quarreling over what person should receive the injection was precious.
 
Jul 15, 10:02 AM

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You'd think that small Titan would have no business trying to rescue Reiner & Bertolt and would instead try to sneak away but I guess with the same retarded convenience the Beast titan was saved Reiner also can be.

But at least all that quarreling over what person should receive the injection was precious.


Why would it try to sneak away? Or isn't it not obvious that the titan is a shifter as well?
 
Jul 15, 11:48 AM

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keragamming said:
Unowen said:
You'd think that small Titan would have no business trying to rescue Reiner & Bertolt and would instead try to sneak away but I guess with the same retarded convenience the Beast titan was saved Reiner also can be.

But at least all that quarreling over what person should receive the injection was precious.


Why would it try to sneak away? Or isn't it not obvious that the titan is a shifter as well?
A shifter with a seemingly not very offensive power and carrying Zeke in clearly no position to fight goes into enemy territory where both Reiner and Bertolt were defeated. If both of them were defeated you should assume as Zeke that either there are people there as dangerous as Levi (which in this case is true with Mikasa for example) or that they had another weapon they used (which is also true, Zeke really shouldn't be able to tell they used all their ammunition without knowing the weapon or anything). So yes I'd have found more normal for that shifter to escape with Zeke directly upon realizing the other 2 were defeated, instead of jumping in and most likely being finished for good.

On a side note since you seem an arduous fan, can you solve me a doubt. When the Owl reveals Grisha that he is a shifter in a later episode, he mentions that he is one of the 9 titans and that these powers have names. Does that mean the amount of Shifters is limited and each has a distinguishable power? If that's the case as I understood then why Ymir (in like the character Ymir) 's titan in season 2 looked exactly the same when she had her shifter power and in the flashback where she eats Reiner's partner as a mindless titan?
 
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Unowen said:
keragamming said:


Why would it try to sneak away? Or isn't it not obvious that the titan is a shifter as well?
A shifter with a seemingly not very offensive power and carrying Zeke in clearly no position to fight goes into enemy territory where both Reiner and Bertolt were defeated. If both of them were defeated you should assume as Zeke that either there are people there as dangerous as Levi (which in this case is true with Mikasa for example) or that they had another weapon they used (which is also true, Zeke really shouldn't be able to tell they used all their ammunition without knowing the weapon or anything). So yes I'd have found more normal for that shifter to escape with Zeke directly upon realizing the other 2 were defeated, instead of jumping in and most likely being finished for good.

On a side note since you seem an arduous fan, can you solve me a doubt. When the Owl reveals Grisha that he is a shifter in a later episode, he mentions that he is one of the 9 titans and that these powers have names. Does that mean the amount of Shifters is limited and each has a distinguishable power? If that's the case as I understood then why Ymir (in like the character Ymir) 's titan in season 2 looked exactly the same when she had her shifter power and in the flashback where she eats Reiner's partner as a mindless titan?


Zeke is the one giving the orders, not that titan. The fact that there is only 9 titan shifters, you would see why it is worth the risk to try and retrieve them.

That question has been brought up a few years ago. The only difference is that her titan shifter form looks a lot more muscular and that it has claws. Though from my knowledge I think titan shifters look differently depending on the human

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keragamming said:
Unowen said:
A shifter with a seemingly not very offensive power and carrying Zeke in clearly no position to fight goes into enemy territory where both Reiner and Bertolt were defeated. If both of them were defeated you should assume as Zeke that either there are people there as dangerous as Levi (which in this case is true with Mikasa for example) or that they had another weapon they used (which is also true, Zeke really shouldn't be able to tell they used all their ammunition without knowing the weapon or anything). So yes I'd have found more normal for that shifter to escape with Zeke directly upon realizing the other 2 were defeated, instead of jumping in and most likely being finished for good.

On a side note since you seem an arduous fan, can you solve me a doubt. When the Owl reveals Grisha that he is a shifter in a later episode, he mentions that he is one of the 9 titans and that these powers have names. Does that mean the amount of Shifters is limited and each has a distinguishable power? If that's the case as I understood then why Ymir (in like the character Ymir) 's titan in season 2 looked exactly the same when she had her shifter power and in the flashback where she eats Reiner's partner as a mindless titan?


Zeke is the one giving the orders, not that titan. The fact that there is only 9 titan shifters, you would see why it is worth the risk to try and retrieve them.

That question has been brought up a few years ago. The only difference is that her titan shifter form looks a lot more muscular and that it has claws. Though from my knowledge I think titan shifters look differently depending on the human

mindless


shifter


"Zeke is the one giving the orders, not that titan."
Yes I'm aware, I'm referring to both of them together all the time. Actually carrying Zeke is a big part of my point, since he is in a very vulnerable state.

"The fact that there is only 9 titan shifters, you would see why it is worth the risk to try and retrieve them."
You can see that reinforcing my point as well, the odds there were higher to lose all 4 shifters than to rescue any of the two. Actually in the way they presented it it's all a matter of seconds from the point Mikasa gives a negative signal to where they rescue Reiner. Just a few more seconds and Hange would've sliced his throat. At least in the previous episode where Zeke gets rescued from Levi you can see him hesitating on whether what to do with Zeke and he was in an open field area where chasing them was very hard. But this time around these conditions weren't there so it's both too much of a gamble / and the timing is way more convenient and hard to swallow.

So basically there isn't a solid reply to that Ymir thing. I don't see much difference at all between those two pictures. If there's any rather small muscular/claw difference it can all be a matter of the drawing itself / the position, more than an actual change in her character. Besides you'd expect an actual change, like Armin will be a colossal titan when he transforms now, he won't be that 2-3 meter one that ate Bertolt. Unless there's yet another genetic difference, now this time between the people of Ymir and only the best of the best of them can look like cool titans :P
 
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@Unowen

Yeah, perhaps its just inconsistency. Definitely not something that would ruin the series. There are other persons who can give a better explanation to it, if there is one, because I personally didn't focus much on that aspect.

Regarding Zeke and that titan, I don't believe they knew that Bertholdt and Reiner where defeated? Perhaps they went there to tell them that it is time to retreat? Or perhaps they are willing to take that risk, this is a argument that can be countered easily and just seem like something you are drawing out of proportion.

It would be pretty cowardly to just left your comrades, without notifying them.
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Jul 15, 1:55 PM

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keragamming said:
Yeah, perhaps its just inconsistency.
I'm also wondering about Eren's power itself. He has Owl's Attack Titan that he inherited from his father, but Grisha also ate Frieda. So can a shifter have the power of two titans, in this case Eren having both the Attack Titan and the Founding Titan power? Or the Founding Titan power is not a titan by itself?
This doubt is certainly an easier one for you to answer because is way more central to the plot than Ymir so it must've been explained better in some point.

keragamming said:
Regarding Zeke and that titan, I don't believe they knew that Bertholdt and Reiner where defeated? Perhaps they went there to tell them that it is time to retreat? Or perhaps they are willing to take that risk, this is a argument that can be countered easily and just seem like something you are drawing out of proportion.

It would be pretty cowardly to just left your comrades, without notifying them.
Well I'm not drawing anything out of proportion you just asked about my original comment and I'm simply developing it. Also I assume Zeke can tell they were defeated, is not like the Colossal Titan falling or simply not being there is a difficult thing to spot lol.

Yes that they were willing to take that risk is not "perhaps", is literally what happens. My point was commenting on whether that risk made sense and that the execution on how they manage to rescue Reiner was very convenient and relied in perfect timing + not having more of those weapons + not having gas in their wears + being focused in rescuing Ermin + Ermin actually surviving that.
 
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@Unowen

Yes, there is two titans inside Eren, the founding titan and the attack titan.

Yeah, I agree it was convenient. I didn't like this chapter in the manga honestly, but the anime did a great job with the ending scene, I actually almost cried there.
 
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Unowen said:
keragamming said:


Zeke is the one giving the orders, not that titan. The fact that there is only 9 titan shifters, you would see why it is worth the risk to try and retrieve them.

That question has been brought up a few years ago. The only difference is that her titan shifter form looks a lot more muscular and that it has claws. Though from my knowledge I think titan shifters look differently depending on the human

mindless


shifter


"Zeke is the one giving the orders, not that titan."
Yes I'm aware, I'm referring to both of them together all the time. Actually carrying Zeke is a big part of my point, since he is in a very vulnerable state.

"The fact that there is only 9 titan shifters, you would see why it is worth the risk to try and retrieve them."
You can see that reinforcing my point as well, the odds there were higher to lose all 4 shifters than to rescue any of the two. Actually in the way they presented it it's all a matter of seconds from the point Mikasa gives a negative signal to where they rescue Reiner. Just a few more seconds and Hange would've sliced his throat. At least in the previous episode where Zeke gets rescued from Levi you can see him hesitating on whether what to do with Zeke and he was in an open field area where chasing them was very hard. But this time around these conditions weren't there so it's both too much of a gamble / and the timing is way more convenient and hard to swallow.

So basically there isn't a solid reply to that Ymir thing. I don't see much difference at all between those two pictures. If there's any rather small muscular/claw difference it can all be a matter of the drawing itself / the position, more than an actual change in her character. Besides you'd expect an actual change, like Armin will be a colossal titan when he transforms now, he won't be that 2-3 meter one that ate Bertolt. Unless there's yet another genetic difference, now this time between the people of Ymir and only the best of the best of them can look like cool titans :P

Actually ymir Titan kinda the same in manga, but afterward isayama choose so that mindless titan and after shifting have different model,so the anime made slightly change. Thats what i heard,though i don't remember what ymir look like in anime.
Isayama sometimes have change of mind and made anime fix it. Like the titan that carrying zeke actually didnt look like that at manga.
 
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Just when everyone was sure that both Armin and Erwin was dead, they all found out that they both actually survived their fatal injuries but are on the brink of death. Backpack Titan might've gotten Reiner but no one has the time to worry about that anymore because they were facing the toughest dilemma yet on which to save among the two potential saviors of humanity. It really was devastating to see all of them fight over who to prioritize saving because both of them are beloved characters that deserved to see through to their dreams. They were so sure that Erwin was the one they should save but the Commander himself unconsciously reminisced his childhood and showed that he once had the zeal Armin had as well.

I think that with the mountain of corpses already under his name, if Erwin found out that they have sacrificed the person who revealed so much information about the traitors within the walls so he'll lead more people towards their deaths would have been too much for him to handle so I guess that it really was best to finally put him to rest. Even though he was responsible for so many deaths, Bertholdt's former comrades from the 104th were still devastated that things had to end that way. With Erwin's death came Armin's rebirth and a new burden that will fall upon his shoulders.








 
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The ammount of times they just let Reiner live was ridiculous. I mean his name should be Jesse from team rocket.

I thought armin was finally gonna kick the bucket. Fuckin' shame man. I still hold some hope that they will kill him off.

It's really weird - never in my life was I rooting for two of main protagonists to actually die. I doubt that will happen - I'm not that lucky.
 
Jul 18, 9:12 AM

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Dude this show can't be good for my health man I have a headache right now. Fuck.
 
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Erwin would have been a much better choice. Other, than a few "right choices and ideas" Armin came up with, he was a pretty useless member of the squad.

BuT aRmIn HaD dReAmS, hE wAnTeD tO sEe ThE sEa.

Yes and who the fuck cares, Erwin also had dreams, one in particular was pretty damn close, he just had to strech his arms...๐Ÿ˜ž
 
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Erwin would have been a much better choice. Other, than a few "right choices and ideas" Armin came up with, he was a pretty useless member of the squad.

BuT aRmIn HaD dReAmS, hE wAnTeD tO sEe ThE sEa.

Yes and who the fuck cares, Erwin also had dreams, one in particular was pretty damn close, he just had to strech his arms...๐Ÿ˜ž

I'm glad not to be the only one who thought this.
 
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Hmmm wonders what's Zeke relationship with Grisha.

Unfortunately Erwin failed to reach his dream.

Well it's understandable there's gotta be a plot armor sometimes, the fact that this show is shounen genre.

Now Armin is the colossal titan, great........
 
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I love Armin. I really do, but I was hoping Levi would revive Erwin. He has led the Survey Corps for years. He practically sacrificed his soul for them. He always put his life on the line for humanity. He deserved to live at least until they check the basement. But alas :( He was truly a hero in his own right, though. Still they were setting up Armin to be his successor at some capacity right at the beginning of pt2. So I was surprised last episode when we almost lost Armin and it makes sense eventually that Levi chose him. Erwin now can be released from hell as Levi said even though it's not fair that he didn't get to see the war won.
 
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someone who is a manga reader explain to me, if when you eat someone who has an Titan power and you inherite the memories from that person, then why do they need to get to the basement? Isn't Eren supposed to know already since he has his father's memories?



I read the manga but it's been too long so
I don't remember shit and im too lazy to do research, if anyone answer me this is much appreciated
 
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you dont always remember
 
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This episode was brilliant, even if we knew what was going to happen to Erwin, this difficult decision and the debate of freinds versus friends about who had to continue living, was an obscure point in the series.
The Hange Mikasa scene is so underrated, the dialoge, the understanding and the pain, they had to let Armin go. Everything was beautiful.
 
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Maybe it's just me, but it was hard to feel for this episode considering the reactions of Mikasa and Eren are the same regardless of the situation that occurs. Everytime someone goes against Erin I expect Mikusa to go apeshit over it, just like I expect Erin to never be able to keep his emotions in check..so when a legit situation like this episode occurs, it doesn't feel right to me.

The ending with the captain was great though.


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HunDavidoska said:
Erwin would have been a much better choice. Other, than a few "right choices and ideas" Armin came up with, he was a pretty useless member of the squad.

BuT aRmIn HaD dReAmS, hE wAnTeD tO sEe ThE sEa.

Yes and who the fuck cares, Erwin also had dreams, one in particular was pretty damn close, he just had to strech his arms...๐Ÿ˜ž

Armin has come up with better ideas than Erwin though.
 
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someone who is a manga reader explain to me, if when you eat someone who has an Titan power and you inherite the memories from that person, then why do they need to get to the basement? Isn't Eren supposed to know already since he has his father's memories?



I read the manga but it's been too long so
I don't remember shit and im too lazy to do research, if anyone answer me this is much appreciated
Well basically they inherit the power as well as the memories. But the thing is the memories aren’t quite strong,,or you can say the inheritor will suffer from some amnesia. But all we know that touching a royal blood people might give you access to the previous holder's memories.
 
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Also noted that episode 5 was previously the best episode by ranking in MAL but Kimetsu no Yaiba episode 19 has snatched it.
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NakolHira said:
Also noted that this episode was previously the best episode by ranking in MAL but Kimetsu no Yaiba episode 19 has snatched it.


Incorrect episode 5 has better votes 95% than this one. But we will see if kimetsu can maintain it.
 
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keragamming said:
NakolHira said:
Also noted that this episode was previously the best episode by ranking in MAL but Kimetsu no Yaiba episode 19 has snatched it.


Incorrect episode 5 has better votes 95% than this one. But we will see if kimetsu can maintain it.
oh my mistake...I mistook it as "Hero".
 
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Some absolute dummy thicc plot armour in this episode boy i tell you
 
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Ciphra-XIII said:
Some absolute dummy thicc plot armour in this episode boy i tell you


for a guy who rate's shingeki no kyojin 6/10, that's a fairly passive statement.
 
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This is the type of episode where not having caught up to the manga helps a lot... really wasn't 100% sure who would be picked even though I had my suspicions based on, ya know, this being a shonen.
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Well.. that's a mini-Erwin right there.. just get an undercut and there you have it...
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