StudyingEnglish said: Yeah.Sphinxter said: Are you saying Fuji-san? Then the order would be 3, 1, 2, 4. I have another language quæstion I guess, a short 6 second clip https://www.speakpipe.com/voice-recorder/msg/i4m4mhl66ye1pndx I have four different renderings of the same word in four different phonological systems; could you order them for me in terms of "easiest" to "least easy" to understand for you? Another thing which is more porn related but I noticed that in a lot of these Japanese pornographic comments there seems to be a widespread idea that males in general do not loose an erection after ejaculation and can keep going; is that purely dramatic licence for porn or is this in general the idea in Japanese culture? |
 It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| Is it true that every school has a cultural festival and like are 80% of the booths maid cafes? |
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StudyingEnglish said: Please don't tell me though they call them "French" fries too in Japan — for much like the dog they are Flemish.ohml said: No. My school didn't have any kind of cafes. Maybe it does happen in the cities, but I think that's weird. It's usually something like yakisoba, ice cream, french fries and such. Some classes do stages too.Is it true that every school has a cultural festival and like are 80% of the booths maid cafes? |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| Are arcades still a big thing in Japan? I see them quite a bit in anime. |
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| Why is there so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Why is it seemingly deemed socially acceptable to engage in a romantic relationship with your cousin or your step sibling? As an American we see that sort of behavior as pretty fucked up and definitely under the definition of incest. Yet when I looked into it apparently it's not even just an anime thing, it's actually fucking real; even your last prime minister was married to his cousin. Second question, why do you think there's so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Now THAT I know is definitely deemed as socially unacceptable over there, yet it's still ridiculously common in anime so clearly there's gotta be a significant portion of the population their targeting this at otherwise they wouldn't be including it in any of these shows. I'm just struggling to see why either of these sets of things is so common in entertainment media, it's hard to wrap my mind around it when in America you'd never see this sort of thing (except when we're making fun of old stereotypes about rednecks). |
| A thing I noticed in many shows is that it seems like Japanese mostly focus on hair color as a defining contrast between East-Asians and North-Europeans; it made me realize that North-Europeans that are said to have "black" hair actually have dark brown hair — is this the general mentality of Japan that they consider the defining feature of East-Asians to be their raven black hair? Because in most of Europe when they talk about the difference they mostly talk about the shape of the eyelids rather than the hair colors. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| Yeah, one thing in particular, mainly about clubs, I've seen this referenced several times, more or less someone asking somebody else if they plan on joining any after-school clubs with the response being the "going home club" the implication being they don't plan on joining clubs. Is this more of a smartalec-y joke that just happens in anime or do people actually do that? |
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StudyingEnglish said: So what do you think about lolicon and siscon?Kyotosomo said: Lolicon and siscon stuff is mostly a joke.Why is there so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Why is it seemingly deemed socially acceptable to engage in a romantic relationship with your cousin or your step sibling? As an American we see that sort of behavior as pretty fucked up and definitely under the definition of incest. Yet when I looked into it apparently it's not even just an anime thing, it's actually fucking real; even your last prime minister was married to his cousin. Second question, why do you think there's so much lolicon and siscon crap in anime? Now THAT I know is definitely deemed as socially unacceptable over there, yet it's still ridiculously common in anime so clearly there's gotta be a significant portion of the population their targeting this at otherwise they wouldn't be including it in any of these shows. I'm just struggling to see why either of these sets of things is so common in entertainment media, it's hard to wrap my mind around it when in America you'd never see this sort of thing (except when we're making fun of old stereotypes about rednecks). Because it's not against the law or anything. People do think it's weird but what can you do about it? People loves who they love. Because anime accepts anything and there's a lot of weird people and weird authors. There are so many genres, just avoid any community you don't like. You see them a lot because it's like a meme. You don't see a lot of characters that are actually a lolicon or a siscon. So it's technically not that common the words itself is too popular. Or maybe I just don't watch those shows and don't know. It has to be said though that this stuff in general seems to sell itself more though its cuteness; it's extremely rare for American entertainment to sell itself through its cuteness. Lolis and siblings are cute. I have to say though I find it incredibly common but it's indeed what you watch. I watch a lot of shows that sell themselves through the cute moments and they very often put at the very least siscon subtext in it out of nowhere. It's certainly not very common in things like long syounen but even there Attack on Titan has some elements of siscon in it but the cuteness is mostly left out. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| I'm not skimming through the thread to see if it's been asked, but I see it so much in anime, probably just for character development / story, but can you walk and use the train's to get to all the places you need to go to? |
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StudyingEnglish said: Yes, many:Sphinxter said: Do you have an example? I couldn't really understand the question. Most people don't even have an opportunity to define a race. A thing I noticed in many shows is that it seems like Japanese mostly focus on hair color as a defining contrast between East-Asians and North-Europeans; it made me realize that North-Europeans that are said to have "black" hair actually have dark brown hair — is this the general mentality of Japan that they consider the defining feature of East-Asians to be their raven black hair? Because in most of Europe when they talk about the difference they mostly talk about the shape of the eyelids rather than the hair colors.
I thought it stood out that they were all talking about the hair not about say the eyes because the first thing a European thinks about when he thinks about an East-Asian person is the sharper eyelids and not the hair color. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
StudyingEnglish said: No, Mikasa for Eren.Sphinxter said: Liking underage girls are weird but I think siscons are pretty normal because nothing is wrong liking your sister. I'm fine with both as long as they don't go to sexual interest territory. So what do you think about lolicon and siscon? It has to be said though that this stuff in general seems to sell itself more though its cuteness; it's extremely rare for American entertainment to sell itself through its cuteness. Lolis and siblings are cute. I have to say though I find it incredibly common but it's indeed what you watch. I watch a lot of shows that sell themselves through the cute moments and they very often put at the very least siscon subtext in it out of nowhere. It's certainly not very common in things like long syounen but even there Attack on Titan has some elements of siscon in it but the cuteness is mostly left out. Is Eren considered to be a siscon? lol They sort of flipped the genders but Mikasa constantly acts like an overprotective older male sibling and is also hinted to have feelings for Eren |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
StudyingEnglish said: Of course — classic imouto tundere pairing with protective, calm and collected aniki.Sphinxter said: So Eren is considered to be the sister? lolNo, Mikasa for Eren. They sort of flipped the genders but Mikasa constantly acts like an overprotective older male sibling and is also hinted to have feelings for Eren Mikasa is actually the same height and heavier than Eren by official numbers by the way. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
StudyingEnglish said: If you are, then you should already know that anime is not a good representation of Japan or Japanese culture. Why even make this thread?I'm a high school student in Japan. Answers are gonna be based on my surroundings, but I'll try my best. |
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StudyingEnglish said: I think the poster you're addressing is using "good" in the sense of "accurate" not in the sense of "positive".Sawilagar said: I don't think it's a bad representation of Japan. A lot people are enjoying it. I made this thread because my friend is watching Gintama right now, and he's having a hard time with some Japanese culture references. I thought there are other people like that and I wanted these people to enjoy anime more. Plus I wanted a place to write a lot of English.If you are, then you should already know that anime is not a good representation of Japan or Japanese culture. Why even make this thread? Fiction is never an accurate repræsentation of reality though — an accurate repræsentation thereof is found when I look outside of my window — unsurprisingly it's boring. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
| *Why do the Japanese love lolicon? *Why do the Japanese like incest? *Why do the Japanese made a lot of isekai? *Why do the Japanese love high school? *Why do the Japanese have bad studios? *Why do the Japanese love working? |
| All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
| Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? |
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StudyingEnglish said: Wow, that's fascinating; and it's perfectly acceptable to address a student one is friends with with "omae"?Sphinxter said: Delinquents would do that and teachers would get pissed. It depends on the teacher but, I've seen one student getting ordered to write an apology."Omae" iis the worst choice to call a teacher lol Insults would be better because it could be a joke.Would a teacher actually practically faint or at the very least be severely dismayed if a student used "omae" to address him? I just saw that in a scene and I think it's kind of hilarious if that's true that that can make such a difference. Like say a student would actually do this in Japan? Would there be punitive consequences? What if one were to refer to oneself with "ore-sama" when addressing the teacher? Does that actually happen or is "ore-sama" merely a meme? Edit: also: what would you say the ratio of tatami houses to hardfloors with chairs is at this point and which do you præfer? Because from where I stand tatami seems insanely practical compared to hardfloor and I understand not the displacement of the former in lieu of the latter. I'd have tatami were it available here. edit2: Also I just realized that almost all these shows in gym classes put the females in considerably shorter shorts than the males? Is this actually occurent and enforced or just creative licence for the sake of fan-service? |
SphinxterJul 29, 2019 9:40 AM
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
StudyingEnglish said: Ah, I think the cultural complexity of "pronouns" in Japanese is interesting. I would assume that cartoons are not an entirely accurate reflexion of it. I'm watching a scene right now where two (male) persons that refer to themselves both typically with "boku" use "omae" for each other which is not that natural or something? Sphinxter said: It's not perfectly acceptable. People usually won't call their friends "omae". Tough guys tend to call each other "omae"(they think it's embrrassing to call people by their names lol), but normally you would call your friend by nicknames. How you were grown effects these word choices a lot.Wow, that's fascinating; and it's perfectly acceptable to address a student one is friends with with "omae"? What if one were to refer to oneself with "ore-sama" when addressing the teacher? Does that actually happen or is "ore-sama" merely a meme? Edit: also: what would you say the ratio of tatami houses to hardfloors with chairs is at this point and which do you præfer? Because from where I stand tatami seems insanely practical compared to hardfloor and I understand not the displacement of the former in lieu of the latter. I'd have tatami were it available here. edit2: Also I just realized that almost all these shows in gym classes put the females in considerably shorter shorts than the males? Is this actually occurent and enforced or just creative licence for the sake of fan-service? That would be embarrassing lol Yeah it's kind of a meme. Also: to use "to grow" instead of "to raise" for human beings as you did there sounds incredibly unusual; it's not wrong per se but in general "to grow" like that is used for plants; "to raise" can also be used for plants and very formally speaking for human beings one uses "to rear" which is never used for plants or nonhuman animals. edit: more præcisely "to raise" is also never used for a single plant which is always grown but entire crops are frequently raised. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
StudyingEnglish said: It's Burning-Eyed Syana — I'm sure you heard of it. I think I referenced it here once too asking about a teacher suffixing a female student with -kunSphinxter said: Those characters sounds scary in text lol A same person using "boku" and "omae" is pretty scary, like they're intelligent and seems kind but actually violent to people. What's the show? I want to check that out.Ah, I think the cultural complexity of "pronouns" in Japanese is interesting. I would assume that cartoons are not an entirely accurate reflexion of it. I'm watching a scene right now where two (male) persons that refer to themselves both typically with "boku" use "omae" for each other which is not that natural or something? Also: to use "to grow" instead of "to raise" for human beings as you did there sounds incredibly unusual; it's not wrong per se but in general "to grow" like that is used for plants; "to raise" can also be used for plants and very formally speaking for human beings one uses "to rear" which is never used for plants or nonhuman animals. edit: more præcisely "to raise" is also never used for a single plant which is always grown but entire crops are frequently raised. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cF8IU6otno&list=PLe11FfV68XSUVtpem4gLIAMMAZ0IYHJpb&index=12#t=9m04 That's the episode and timestamp. I also think it's kind of interesting that any time a male uses "watasi" it seems to be some super refined or dignified character like Friagne but apparently Syana still uses it despite being a coarse hothead probably because sticking "ore" on a female character is comically strange or something? It's also a somewhat old show which might be related to it — I've read somewhere that "ore" is very much on the rise apparently and that characters that would surely have used "boku" 15 years back now frequently use "ore". |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
StudyingEnglish said: Maybe it's the intonation that makes it normal that you didn't expect?Sphinxter said: Well that was normal than I thought. I guess it works. It's Burning-Eyed Syana — I'm sure you heard of it. I think I referenced it here once too asking about a teacher suffixing a female student with -kun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cF8IU6otno&list=PLe11FfV68XSUVtpem4gLIAMMAZ0IYHJpb&index=12#t=9m04 That's the episode and timestamp. I also think it's kind of interesting that any time a male uses "watasi" it seems to be some super refined or dignified character like Friagne but apparently Syana still uses it despite being a coarse hothead probably because sticking "ore" on a female character is comically strange or something? It's also a somewhat old show which might be related to it — I've read somewhere that "ore" is very much on the rise apparently and that characters that would surely have used "boku" 15 years back now frequently use "ore". Female characters would use "watashi". Personality doesn't matter. There is also " uchi" but it's used by modern teenagers. Maybe? But much older shows are using "ore" though. I looked it up now and found that people are starting to use "boku" these days. I didn't know that... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRmbe3xY7oI#t=7m25 This is by the way the scene of the teacher practically fainting from being addressed with "omae"; there are some other things I found inscrutable like in some series characters practically fainting because two other characters address each other by first name but in this series the fact that Syana and Yuuzi refer to each other by first name without honorific seems not to leave any real impression upon any of the other characters. Here in the Netherlands I've always addressed all my teachers by first name and in reverse and seldom even knew their last names; shit is not as complicated here. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
StudyingEnglish said: "Mr. Johnson" will do fine in English but often first names are quickly used.Sphinxter said: It seems like the teacher is just scared. He was surprized by the strong word choice. Maybe it's the intonation that makes it normal that you didn't expect? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRmbe3xY7oI#t=7m25 This is by the way the scene of the teacher practically fainting from being addressed with "omae"; there are some other things I found inscrutable like in some series characters practically fainting because two other characters address each other by first name but in this series the fact that Syana and Yuuzi refer to each other by first name without honorific seems not to leave any real impression upon any of the other characters. Here in the Netherlands I've always addressed all my teachers by first name and in reverse and seldom even knew their last names; shit is not as complicated here. As Japanese, I really don't know how to call a person older than me in English. It feels strange calling someone older than me without any honorific. Also I'm 30 years old but never fear I act and look nothing like it. Also with twins is it really the case that the older of the two (by like 10 minutes) is addressed as "onii-san" by the 10 minute younger one and in reverse the older one just addresses the younger by first name? Because that to mee is so funny that 10 minutes makes that difference. |
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StudyingEnglish said: Certainly not a stranger but indeed the Anglo-Saxon will switch to first name base far more quickly than the Japanese I would assume. The English æquivalent of the Japanese practice of even putting "-san" behind the names of one's parents as in saying "Mr. Father" in English would be highly odd.Sphinxter said: But I heard that it's pretty unusual to call some one with a Mr. "Mr. Johnson" will do fine in English but often first names are quickly used. Also I'm 30 years old but never fear I act and look nothing like it. Also with twins is it really the case that the older of the two (by like 10 minutes) is addressed as "onii-san" by the 10 minute younger one and in reverse the older one just addresses the younger by first name? Because that to mee is so funny that 10 minutes makes that difference. Siblings would call each other by names. I'm not sure which is more popular though, name or onii/onee. And also, when you are calling you older sibling, it would be a "chan". "Onii-san/oneesan" is too well mannered. I've never seen anyone use it. What about using "otouto" to directly address a younger sibling? I noticed that I never saw that and only first name for a younger one and "otouto" only being used in third person. I also never saw "otouto-tyan" only "otouto-san" come to think of it.Edit: also do things like "okaa-tyan" and "otou-tyan" ever occur or is that like super weird? I think I have seen "obaa-tyan" |
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