Fairy Tail: Final Series Episode 34 Discussion

laimingaz said:
Holy shit this anime is so trash. Bullshits power ups every episode. Lame main characters (only the villains are cool af). I don't remember it being this bad... maybe because i was younger so it looked different, idk.

AmeliaNeston2003 said:


Nope the Anime is just fine as it is Fairy Tail is an Lightheart supposed series it isn't supposed to be taken seriously especially this War arc is made this way on Purpose
Hiro stated it will have a Happy ending
There is zero Bullshits power ups (Right Now)
Tell me which one you are saying ( If it's Juvia death, Then Nope it's logical Wendy can revive dead people , Look what wendy DID to Jellal when he was dead)
You people just find any excuse to bash on the series
You probably skipped the first few arcs in the first FT Anime
The Power of Friendship is an Theme of the series ever since Chapter 1 of Manga and EP 1 of Anime and it wasn't used until Oracian Sies arc (Wendy's Introduction)

Danpmss said:
This arc went from okay to absolutely disappointing from the point they started winning at ease combating bs with bs every single of the "amazingly strong" Spriggan 12. Let's enter in the specifics for the sake of a fair argument:

The reason why falls flat and feels really cheap it's because admitedly, Hiro Mashima doesn't really cares about consistency and proper conflict building (I'll give that he at least tried doing something cool with the world building though, albeit very inconsistent with its on plot devices and some ridiculously convenient reveals really didn't help its case... then we have the Mavis and Zeref arc, which is likely the strongest point of the whole thing, and yet, has quite a few flaws that make it a big waste of potential in an overview for this arc).

Hell, Mashima himself and his assistants already admitted they really just pulled things out of their asses as the situation demanded for each chapter without much care for ex machinas and proper foreshadowing for many of the things ever since the later part of Tartarus.

Not to mention that in the afterwords of volume 56's tankobon, he just straight says he designed all of the Spriggan 12 with the idea that they all would possess Magic that "cheats": every single one uses something generic that any author could come up with, but that destroys the framework of whatever story they are applied to, and are thus not usually used. Magics mentioned in particular that are grossly unfair are Âge Seal (Dimaria's primary Magic), Stealth (Jacob's primary Magic), and Historia of the Dead (Neinhart's primary Magic). Take that and see the solution against their unfair abilities or just how great actually are (being curb stomped without many problems by their supposedly weaker enemies, that should at least have a good challenge with such unfairly almighty opponents), and that's how most of the arc goes. Even the most threatening ones like Larcade are handled as if they were a huge joke and never done something actually fatal with their potential powers, and instead are used for fanservice and then discarded.

When an author goes to that point and just expects the reader to deal with such bullshit writing as something to read with their brain turned off after being invested for that long in the series (which let's say, was pretty well written much like most of Rave up til Laxus' Battle Royale arc at the very least), he just loses my respect in a way not many can do even with a terrible cop out conclusion.

Good for him for seeing his own work as something written without planning ahead and packed with plot conveniences, deus-ex machinas, poorly explained justification for said deus ex machinas ("because she's Erza" being likely quite the most stupid ones) and badly built-up twists that at times even hurts some of the initially well establish lore he was going for.

So yeah, these last two episodes are the beginning of when the series really hit a new low to the point of just going for cheap fetichism fanservice exposition for the sake of it while delivering one of the major twists yet, that just also feels odd just to think about it (she canonically have the body of a 13 year old kid, and her body wasn't able to mature or grow any further ever since she tried to use the incomplete grand magic, and not just counting that, the very circumstance of

Every single big thing starting from this arc gets progressively worse and worse the more you try to connect all of the dots or, how could I say, even watch it normally and see for yourself how each of them was delivered and all of the poorly executed sequences that then followed up with the plot.

So yeah, I'm through with people going like:



Understand that this doesn't protect him or his series of poor writing criticism, and just how much his work and reputation get hurt because of it.

Let's do like ou friend Jack the Ripper and separate this in parts:
>"Nope the Anime is just fine as it is Fairy Tail is an Lightheart supposed series it isn't supposed to be taken seriously especially this War arc is made this way on Purpose"

Fairy Tail is light hearted, therefore it doesn't need to be written well or taken seriously, ESPECIALLY IN THIS CLIMACTIC "WAR" ARC THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO AN OVERARCH TO ALL OF THE CONTENT WRITTEN THUS FAR. YEAH, ESPECIALLY IN THIS WAR ARC, OF COURSE, TOTALLY MADE ON PURPOSE BTW!

It was made on purpose alright, admittedly even, but by sheer incompetence of an author that instead just decided went along with whatever he could think of for each weekly chapter no matter how out-of-nowhere in literally the most important arc of his biggest long-running manga.

So no, nobody is buying that as an excuse for his bad writing in here, especially old time fans who saw he can do so much better when he actually try. Not an argument.

>Hiro stated it will have a Happy ending
Happy ending stories can be wonderfully well written, no matter if you throw sad things and a couple of major character deaths in the mix, or none of that at all. Not an argument.

>There is zero Bullshits power ups (Right Now)
If you mean the anime as a whole thus far, that's wrong.
If you mean this final season anime as a whole up to this point, that's also wrong:
A big one against an otherwise formidable opponent would be the case of Wall vs Laxus.
The red lightning that Laxus obtains to defeat him, who had been firmly established to be immune to any lightning attack. It comes out of nowhere (and even worse, the flashback just comes by some seconds before to imply that it has something to do with Yuri), with no real explanation on how it works, which doesn't really matter as it still is lightning magic and therefore even an asspull powerup should have been ineffective, if minor damaging at its most absurd.

At best, people still have suggested from the name "Mercury Fulminate" that Laxus created the actual explosive compound the end of the fight still attributes his victory to "lightning that surpasses lightning" in both the manga AND the anime, so it really is just stupid like that. And thus was killed Wall, an enemy immune to lightning magic destroyed by a bit more powerful ex machina lightning magic that came out of nowhere with a flashback on the spot.

>Tell me which one you are saying ( If it's Juvia death, Then Nope it's logical Wendy can revive dead people , Look what wendy DID to Jellal when he was dead)
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>You people just find any excuse to bash on the series

Adding to that, Wendy's healing power abilities were not only also conveniently introduced on spot as a plot point to help Erza cure her poison, it was also established to in the maximum of their capabilities to revive (in the specific sense of recover) someone in a near-death state, and not actually dead (as it was the case with Jellal, but not the case of Juvia).

And that's not to mention that was one of the MANY "character is dead" bait-and-switch fake drama Mashima pulled in this arc, and the only reason why you don't see as many people being vocal in here it's because most of them were done with the manga's bullshit and prefered not to even touch this anime adaptation, leaving only the part of the fandom that doesn't really care about writing issues to fanboy/fangirl as much as they want in this anime's discussion forum.

If you want actually split reactions from everybody (quite the number of them being overwhelmingly negative) for these events, try reading their respective chapter discussions for the manga even here on MAL.

We don't need excuses to bash a badly written as infamous as this, and in fact, that's the very reason why these discussions for the anime itself are much more forgiving overall, since most of the people who were extremely disapointed with it prefered not to even touch it again after having finished the manga.

I for one wanted to see if they could fix those problems in any way, and that's why I'm here, just having marathoned the first 34 episodes while rereading and comparing to the manga, and thus far I'm just as disappointed.

They added some superfluous things to match with the time stamp, rearranged some scenes here and there and at times, got the story to flow a bit more smoothly, but all of the actual problems are still in here as glaring as they were before.

>You probably skipped the first few arcs in the first FT Anime
Now that's you assuming stuff about the people saying that this anime has exactly what is has a bunch of.

And let's not even talk about all of the bullshit yet to come from this arc soon enough, And that's ONE example of many.

>The Power of Friendship is an Theme of the series ever since Chapter 1 of Manga and EP 1 of Anime and it wasn't used until Oracian Sies arc (Wendy's Introduction)

Everything before Oraciòn Seis was pretty well written and established with minor flaws here and there, that is where the story started to fall apart, before rising once more for a selected portion of Tartarus and from there straight into a unholy hole of shame.

Power of Friendship can be a major theme even for freaking Berserk, not mattering for which point of the story on. You can put it wherever you prefer for as long as you prefer, and, as long as you write stuff up well and consistently, it won't ever be a problem.

Fairy Tail has none of that left once it started pulling deus ex machina after deus ex machina unjustificable even if you consider some random out-of-nowhere magic as a direct explanation plotwise.

Black Clover for example has the balls to use somehow properly, by justifying from the start that their grimoires can gain new abilities according to their development as people and on how much they try hard to surpass their problems with determination alone, a thing that only can be forgiven in part for the author introducing as a plot device from the very get-go of the manga, something that every single deus ex machina in Fairy Tail never did, which make them as bad as you can get.

And yeah, I reread the whole manga not so long before starting to watch this final season, my opinion if anything only became more certain on how low this series has fallen.


Thus far, this anime has been a 5/10 (I'm even being generous, since at least the battles are looking fun enough and they did the good part of Mavis and Zeref story arc as well if not better than the manga), and I'm just waiting for it to unfortunately go straight downhill since they are sticking very faithfully with the manga without improving anything actually significant.

EMP-511 said:


Do you watch these series just to harass it? If you have so much time writing this bullshit, then go watch other animes.