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May 30, 2019 7:11 PM
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seriously anime fans, you have to read the manga, anime is just a big disappointment, I will include a few important scenes that were deleted by the anime studio,

1. the story in the chapter loli raphtalia is gone by the studio, why am I saying important, this chapter is the most important development for Nao and Raph characters.

2. Naofumi's kiss scene to Raphtalia at the end of episode 4

3. The Raphtalia scene cuts idol with the sword, the anime changed the scene of idol falling off, really stupid.

4. cold and angry expression of naofumi to 3rd hero in the whale chapter, anime only make naofumi's character look stupid, he even begged for help to 3rd hero with a head as low as WTF, on the contrary it was original source, the 3 heroes begging naofumi to help them defeat the pope.

5. queen's personality is changed to a person queen'sho love their husbands and his son, even though they have committing a major crime.

I can't wait to see what changes the studio will make with the remaining 4 episodes, and for season 2 I'm sure that will never happen, seeing BD sales so bad compared to other anime.
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May 30, 2019 7:16 PM
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It doesn't matter how much worse it gets, it's still a 10/10 for the simple fact it triggered the NPCs.
May 30, 2019 8:15 PM
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LightoLhxd4 said:
seriously anime fans, you have to read the manga, anime is just a big disappointment, I will include a few important scenes that were deleted by the anime studio,

1. the story in the chapter loli raphtalia is gone by the studio, why am I saying important, this chapter is the most important development for Nao and Raph characters.

2. Naofumi's kiss scene to Raphtalia at the end of episode 4

3. The Raphtalia scene cuts idol with the sword, the anime changed the scene of idol falling off, really stupid.

4. cold and angry expression of naofumi to 3rd hero in the whale chapter, anime only make naofumi's character look stupid, he even begged for help to 3rd hero with a head as low as WTF, on the contrary it was original source, the 3 heroes begging naofumi to help them defeat the pope.

5. queen's personality is changed to a person queen'sho love their husbands and his son, even though they have committing a major crime.

I can't wait to see what changes the studio will make with the remaining 4 episodes, and for season 2 I'm sure that will never happen, seeing BD sales so bad compared to other anime.
I believe you (because I read the manga as well as the Light novel alongside the anime) and of you're not reading the LN let me tell you it's even better. The reason I think they kidify the anime is because kids and teens may not like the LN because it maintains the mature tone at all times and also gets too dark for them at times.
May 30, 2019 8:49 PM
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Read the manga, and you're right, but being much better than this isn't much a compliment or an accomplishment. Both are absolutely awful and fall into the exact same pitfalls at the end of the day. The anime just has some added bonus faults.
May 31, 2019 5:04 AM
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Yautja said:
Read the manga, and you're right, but being much better than this isn't much a compliment or an accomplishment. Both are absolutely awful and fall into the exact same pitfalls at the end of the day. The anime just has some added bonus faults.

Havent read the manga yet but I m know that the LN has alot more of deep, in particular to the systems of the world, the tactics and RPG management going on, which is only normal since it is a book source.
Jun 1, 2019 2:27 PM
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Me and my brother's both watch the show together no matter how long we wait for each other. But once a few episodes have passed by one of them talks about how somethings are very different from the book and actually makes the anime much better.

But either way we all have are own opinions about both the adaptation and manga.
Jun 1, 2019 2:44 PM
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Don't about the manga

I enjoying the anime a lot. Most of the stuff you mentioned are minor changes and don't look important
Jun 1, 2019 4:32 PM
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No, the manga isn't better. lol
Jun 1, 2019 7:46 PM
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I like the story on each form.
Do my opinion count or not ? :)
Jun 1, 2019 7:47 PM

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believe me, the light novel series is much better than this stupid manga
Jun 1, 2019 7:51 PM

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papsoshea said:
It doesn't matter if it's the WN, LN, or manga, this story is bad. In each one, the climax is Naofumi having his name cleared while the fans get their justice porn after they were cucked with a chastity belt for a long time - as the story builds towards this moment since the beginning. Once the story fulfills the fans' fantasies and empties their balls, it doesn't have anything else to offer than your typical generic isekai/power fantasy schlock. The BD sales are bad because the show is shit. Throwing a guess out there, but I think competition also could be a factor. Kenja no Mago aired during Shieldpedo's second cour, and from what I heard, it's the highest rated airing show in Japan. So a generic isekai beat a shit isekai, ain't that something?


The sales are bad because the overpriced BD market is dying ever since the absurd grow of streaming services even in Japan. Every single show that hasn't special event tickets, really good extras or just some "free" gatcha hell currency is selling badly no matter the quality, with extremely rare exceptions. Otherwise, following your logic, Mob Psycho II was garbage since it sold even less than Shield Hero if I recall correctly.
Jun 1, 2019 11:44 PM
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papsoshea said:
It doesn't matter if it's the WN, LN, or manga, this story is bad. In each one, the climax is Naofumi having his name cleared while the fans get their justice porn after they were cucked with a chastity belt for a long time - as the story builds towards this moment since the beginning. Once the story fulfills the fans' fantasies and empties their balls, it doesn't have anything else to offer than your typical generic isekai/power fantasy schlock. The BD sales are bad because the show is shit. Throwing a guess out there, but I think competition also could be a factor. Kenja no Mago aired during Shieldpedo's second cour, and from what I heard, it's the highest rated airing show in Japan. So a generic isekai beat a shit isekai, ain't that something?


It is pretty dishonest to call it just justice porn.The show doesn't dwell on it as much.


There is a great sense of adventure.Our main character is original.The girls have character development.
The waves are their own mystery.There is a lot to look forward to.


Jun 2, 2019 3:37 AM
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LightoLhxd4 said:
seriously anime fans, you have to read the manga, anime is just a big disappointment, I will include a few important scenes that were deleted by the anime studio,

1. the story in the chapter loli raphtalia is gone by the studio, why am I saying important, this chapter is the most important development for Nao and Raph characters.

2. Naofumi's kiss scene to Raphtalia at the end of episode 4

3. The Raphtalia scene cuts idol with the sword, the anime changed the scene of idol falling off, really stupid.

4. cold and angry expression of naofumi to 3rd hero in the whale chapter, anime only make naofumi's character look stupid, he even begged for help to 3rd hero with a head as low as WTF, on the contrary it was original source, the 3 heroes begging naofumi to help them defeat the pope.

5. queen's personality is changed to a person queen'sho love their husbands and his son, even though they have committing a major crime.

I can't wait to see what changes the studio will make with the remaining 4 episodes, and for season 2 I'm sure that will never happen, seeing BD sales so bad compared to other anime.

Let me preface you are mostly being nitpicking and whinny, with some truth here and there.

1 - They showed it with less detail, it was that flashback, whereas in the LN (the source I read, NOT the manga) you have a few pages for it, sacrifices they had to make.
2 - They never kiss, like kiss, aside that, ep4 was an amazing adaptation.
3 - Yeah, they rushed it, the asshole showed much more resistence in the LN, not a really important cut, fine with it.
4 - Wtf are you talking about? As far as I can see, this Naofumi is a bit more soft vs the LN, there he holds even more grudge, it was a fine change IMO, reading the LN you can accept him more there, but on the anime, that wouldnt have translated well at all, he would just be an jackass, unless they really nailed in the execution of that scene, which I doubt, so it was the smartest move.
5 - The Queen ALWAYS loved them, on the LN she was able to "manipulate" Naofumi someone to have him agreeing to not have them killed since he was pretty much up to see that blood flowing and see the heads roll off. The queen was always the same, IMO they did a really amazing job with her, she loved them alot, but also felt alot of anger for all the stupid mistakes and had to take drastic measures.

Where is the source saying BD sales are low?
Also to your information, BD sales dont mean that much anymore, stream licenses do, and this anime was made with alot of backing from the chinese, which are loving it, and it is very popular there, SO, they will want to help finance a S2, to get their customer something more they can pay for.
People still thinking BD sales are everything are living in the old age.
Jun 2, 2019 3:41 AM
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So does the Queen actually care about her husband and child dying in the manga?
Jun 4, 2019 8:50 AM
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I think the anime is pretty good. I know, it's an opinion contradicting your own. Don't get your panties in a bunch.
Jun 4, 2019 9:40 AM

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genesic123 said:
It is pretty dishonest to call it just justice porn.The show doesn't dwell on it as much.

The entire premise of the show is the justice porn.
Jun 4, 2019 4:59 PM

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so nothing about the lapses of logic and reasoning and absolutely horrible combat and characters and garbage loli harem? cus this is why the anime sucks, not cus it missed a scene or two

lots of music -
Jun 4, 2019 5:21 PM
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changelog said:
So does the Queen actually care about her husband and child dying in the manga?
the queen doesn't care about bastards like them, and naofumi doesn't care about them either
Jun 5, 2019 2:48 AM
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LightoLhxd4 said:
changelog said:
So does the Queen actually care about her husband and child dying in the manga?
the queen doesn't care about bastards like them, and naofumi doesn't care about them either

Oh yikes, I want to read this manga chapter.
Jun 5, 2019 3:36 AM

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Don't worry summer season with isekai swarm xD

People start get used with current isekai things, and more generic ones will appear.
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Playcool said:
LightoLhxd4 said:
seriously anime fans, you have to read the manga, anime is just a big disappointment, I will include a few important scenes that were deleted by the anime studio,

1. the story in the chapter loli raphtalia is gone by the studio, why am I saying important, this chapter is the most important development for Nao and Raph characters.

2. Naofumi's kiss scene to Raphtalia at the end of episode 4

3. The Raphtalia scene cuts idol with the sword, the anime changed the scene of idol falling off, really stupid.

4. cold and angry expression of naofumi to 3rd hero in the whale chapter, anime only make naofumi's character look stupid, he even begged for help to 3rd hero with a head as low as WTF, on the contrary it was original source, the 3 heroes begging naofumi to help them defeat the pope.

5. queen's personality is changed to a person queen'sho love their husbands and his son, even though they have committing a major crime.

I can't wait to see what changes the studio will make with the remaining 4 episodes, and for season 2 I'm sure that will never happen, seeing BD sales so bad compared to other anime.

Let me preface you are mostly being nitpicking and whinny, with some truth here and there.

1 - They showed it with less detail, it was that flashback, whereas in the LN (the source I read, NOT the manga) you have a few pages for it, sacrifices they had to make.
2 - They never kiss, like kiss, aside that, ep4 was an amazing adaptation.
3 - Yeah, they rushed it, the asshole showed much more resistence in the LN, not a really important cut, fine with it.
4 - Wtf are you talking about? As far as I can see, this Naofumi is a bit more soft vs the LN, there he holds even more grudge, it was a fine change IMO, reading the LN you can accept him more there, but on the anime, that wouldnt have translated well at all, he would just be an jackass, unless they really nailed in the execution of that scene, which I doubt, so it was the smartest move.
5 - The Queen ALWAYS loved them, on the LN she was able to "manipulate" Naofumi someone to have him agreeing to not have them killed since he was pretty much up to see that blood flowing and see the heads roll off. The queen was always the same, IMO they did a really amazing job with her, she loved them alot, but also felt alot of anger for all the stupid mistakes and had to take drastic measures.

Where is the source saying BD sales are low?
Also to your information, BD sales dont mean that much anymore, stream licenses do, and this anime was made with alot of backing from the chinese, which are loving it, and it is very popular there, SO, they will want to help finance a S2, to get their customer something more they can pay for.
People still thinking BD sales are everything are living in the old age.


3- You seriously don't see any difference it has with the LN?
LN: We're gonna kill you.
Anime: Oh I don't wanna kill you cause I'm gonna be like you if I do.

4- You are correct but IMO I don't think it a soft Naofumi like in the anime works with the events in the LN. They should've gone completely anime original if they intended to change the character from the start.

5- The queen always loved them you are correct, but the anime made the queen look stupid and emotional. She is a "queen" a head of the state, therefore she has to act in a manner befitting of her title or else her rule will come into question. I like it better in the LN where she didn't leave the king and Malty's lives to chance, she made sure they live by actively trying to find a compromise with an angered Naofumi. In the LN she's a badass who masterfully manipulated Naofumi into agreeing with her and staying in Melromarc. In the anime she's just emotional, where the hell is the "Vixen of Melromarc"?? What's with that "if you want to leave we can't stop you" BS? She should know that if the shield hero leaves it's gonna result in war with Siltvelt and ShieldFreeden. LN queen would stop him from leaving to prevent war.
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Doesn't anime get broadcasted on Tv in japan or something as well? If that's true and if the LN is as dark and mature as I'm hearing it is then it's a good reason why they changed some of the mature parts. There's a limit to what is accepted on air and what isn't and maybe the studio thought about that. TBH I love the anime, I'm loving the manga, and I would love to read the LN.
Jun 5, 2019 6:14 PM

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No thanks I prefer to watch anime, I never enjoyed reading manga.
Jun 5, 2019 8:08 PM

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Anime adaption is better.

Jun 5, 2019 8:26 PM

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No thanks I prefer to watch anime, I never enjoyed reading manga.

same here! stopped reading any type of manga a long time ago but much prefer Manhwa when i comes to reading cuz at least is colored...lolz


Jun 5, 2019 9:42 PM

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I'll just read the light novels honesty as I rather read the first source than the manga. It has good art though.
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Jun 8, 2019 8:05 AM
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5 - I think the Queen's behaviour was very much beffiting, quite far from stupid or needlessly emotional, she seemed quite human there, a very conflicted person, which is only natural.
Jun 8, 2019 9:00 PM
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genesic123 said:
It is pretty dishonest to call it just justice porn.The show doesn't dwell on it as much.

The entire premise of the show is the justice porn.


Premise is not plot.You are pretty dishonest yourself.It also has themes of teamwork and sacrifice.Even the shield's forgiveness make sense in that regard.


Jun 9, 2019 7:05 AM

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the only problem i have with the anime adaptation is that it is indeed a low budget adaptation
i've seen better animation on long running anime
Jun 9, 2019 4:36 PM

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I’m reading the manga as well so I can say the anime has been 85% faithful. The scenes they didn’t include are minor. The main problem is the changes the anime took, such as:

-making Naofumi less edgy and cutting out some of his inner monologues to make him more of a generic good isekai hero (his edgier manga version ain’t much better).

- Raphtalia’s moral dilemma with killing the slave owner

- The idea for the revenge porn against the King and Melty

The manga isn’t much better than the anime. It still suffers from the same pitfalls because it’s a poorly written revenge porn story for incels.
Jun 10, 2019 6:41 PM

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Yautja said:
Read the manga, and you're right, but being much better than this isn't much a compliment or an accomplishment. Both are absolutely awful and fall into the exact same pitfalls at the end of the day. The anime just has some added bonus faults.


If the anime is so bad why is it rated so high?
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MakoChoppo said:
Yautja said:
Read the manga, and you're right, but being much better than this isn't much a compliment or an accomplishment. Both are absolutely awful and fall into the exact same pitfalls at the end of the day. The anime just has some added bonus faults.


If the anime is so bad why is it rated so high?


Tons of shit manga and anime are rated highly. Tons of great manga and anime are rated poorly. MAL is nearly as big a joke for scoring as RT. Anyone who seriously treats ratings on MAL as if they're objective and not totally inconsistent on their accuracy is a moron. As is anyone who uses such a basic fallacy as X rating on X site means it's good, instead of being able to articulate why something is or is not good.
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Yautja said:
MakoChoppo said:


If the anime is so bad why is it rated so high?


Tons of shit manga and anime are rated highly. Tons of great manga and anime are rated poorly. MAL is nearly as big a joke for scoring as RT. Anyone who seriously treats ratings on MAL as if they're objective and not totally inconsistent on their accuracy is a moron. As is anyone who uses such a basic fallacy as X rating on X site means it's good, instead of being able to articulate why something is or is not good.


It seems pretty consistent to most of us
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MakoChoppo said:
Yautja said:


Tons of shit manga and anime are rated highly. Tons of great manga and anime are rated poorly. MAL is nearly as big a joke for scoring as RT. Anyone who seriously treats ratings on MAL as if they're objective and not totally inconsistent on their accuracy is a moron. As is anyone who uses such a basic fallacy as X rating on X site means it's good, instead of being able to articulate why something is or is not good.


It seems pretty consistent to most of us


Then most of you are stupid. Good job speaking for a group on a highly contested topic with very little support, anecdotal or not and neglecting the majority of a response in favor of a generic cop out comment to avoid saying anything more ridiculous than you already have. And good job accentuating multiple of my points, including but not limited to:

1. Being unable to articulate why something is or is not good.
2. Using such basic fallacies.
3. Tons of manga / anime have inaccurate scores.

and the super secret but not mentioned

4. People have different opinions, yours is not necessarily true. Doubly so when you cannot articulate / support it.

Fan boys, especially those that seemingly cannot accept criticism, are a joke.
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MakoChoppo said:
Yautja said:
Read the manga, and you're right, but being much better than this isn't much a compliment or an accomplishment. Both are absolutely awful and fall into the exact same pitfalls at the end of the day. The anime just has some added bonus faults.


If the anime is so bad why is it rated so high?


Because majority of people usually just shut their brain off when consuming entertainment, myself included. So even tho something is actually bad, but instead of judging it from technicalities and such, we often just rated a series/movie based on how we personally enjoyed it, not how it's actually deserved.

It's not only limited to anime/manga/LN, but to all entertainment medium, which make the rating system lost it's value. And also most(if not all) rating sites (any medium) should be only taken at face value.

I mean, just look at my profile. I rated Manga de Wakaru! Fate/Grand Order at 10/10, just for shits and giggles.

Tl;dr - People usually rate things based on personal enjoyment, not what it actually deserved.
Jun 24, 2019 4:36 PM

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OG_Guts said:
I’m reading the manga as well so I can say the anime has been 85% faithful. The scenes they didn’t include are minor. The main problem is the changes the anime took, such as:

-making Naofumi less edgy and cutting out some of his inner monologues to make him more of a generic good isekai hero (his edgier manga version ain’t much better).

- Raphtalia’s moral dilemma with killing the slave owner

- The idea for the revenge porn against the King and Melty

The manga isn’t much better than the anime. It still suffers from the same pitfalls because it’s a poorly written revenge porn story for incels.

so I assume you wrote that a bit too early... the latest episodes (23 for example) are maybe 50% faithful at BEST, a lot of scenes are changed, that is pretty undeniable
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IMO the manga IS much better, while not being the source the manga got more details and scenes right than the anime ever could... episode 15 onward started becoming quite different from the manga, while only slightly the differences started picking up after episode 22, episode 23 had the same plot points but the scenes went by so differently.
while id agree that you should read the LN, the manga isnt that bad of a substitute but the anime does NOT represent the characters or story that good period...
also as a side note it doesnt mean its bad it just means its not faithful easy as that
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the LN is the best source in my opinion but i do agreed the manga is better then the anime
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lol still in damage control mode over this?
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Not a discussion topic. No point listing manga differences here.

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