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May 15, 2019 6:21 AM
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Geez, this pope guy is no pushove especially with that judgement weapon and barrier.

Looks like the other heroes also showed up again this episode and realized the truth. I still don't like the spear hero much but at least he knows what's actually happening now after that revelation.
May 15, 2019 6:22 AM
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Lol, the pope is ridiculous.

Yeah, the other heroes are back.

It seems that the Queen learned about this situation. Wow, this episode ended very soon.
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May 15, 2019 8:00 AM
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I said it before and Ill say it again how the hell was Ren supposed to know that leaving a dragon corpse was going to lead to a plague if anyone is at fault its the villagers for making it a tourist attraction
May 15, 2019 8:01 AM
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this episode felt like a recap to me tbh...
May 15, 2019 8:02 AM
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Agree with Filo, spear hero is so annoying.

The other heroes, bow, and sword, are back.

May 15, 2019 8:05 AM
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I said it before and Ill say it again how the hell was Ren supposed to know that leaving a dragon corpse was going to lead to a plague if anyone is at fault its the villagers for making it a tourist attraction


We just watching to see how it ends tbh... The story has completely collapsed and its an insult to anyone with a brain.

10mins of talking in front of enemy attempting to murder them as pope regains mana for an ultimate move........

-_-
May 15, 2019 8:06 AM
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well, it's a recap. guess theyre trying to condense the cal mira arc into five episodes at this point.

May 15, 2019 8:09 AM
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Seriously, what the hell is up with those three heroes?!
They are like 10 years old kids. And Motoyasu is just ridiculous. He is probably from a rich family with a strong mother, and he did everything as his mother said without ever questioning its rightness. Super mother complex. Gross.
And Mein is, well... a super egoistical self-centred betch, but this is clear from the start.

If the shield's team wouldn't be this loveable, I would have probably dropped this show...
The story is interesting, but these guys are more than anoying.

Poor Naofumi... I agree that they should have worked together from the start... but forming a team with stupid brats is too difficult... especially when they don't listen to what you say...

ItsBritneyBitch said:
Yourmom53 said:
I said it before and Ill say it again how the hell was Ren supposed to know that leaving a dragon corpse was going to lead to a plague if anyone is at fault its the villagers for making it a tourist attraction


We just watching to see how it ends tbh... The story has completely collapsed and its an insult to anyone with a brain.

10mins of talking in front of enemy attempting to murder them as pope regains mana for an ultimate move........

-_-


xD At least the Pope didn't get bored while the mana gauge filled.
These guys really have a death wish.
No gamer or people with a brain would do the same thing... ever.

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BarnaldMay 17, 2019 9:18 AM
May 15, 2019 8:13 AM
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*hug noises*

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Well that was a lot less progression than I expected
May 15, 2019 8:17 AM

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I really hate this Spear Hero >,<
He is so easy to be manipulated by others, acts like kid and when someone point to his fault he tries to say he didn't anything bad
May 15, 2019 8:26 AM

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The heroes acted especially childish here xD But hey, at least they managed to overcome their differences eventually. Was pretty ok as a setup episode.

still waiting for the Scythe Hero

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May 15, 2019 8:28 AM

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I have to admit, the writing's already terrible, just coming along for the ride to see how the story ends. This is NOT about the Waves anymore, but the whole series as a conspiracy to lure us into this hole that we dive deep, and can be crawled out of.

This episode...
Motoyasu is still at his immature thinking that he can AND WILL defeat all evil. Despite his valorous attempts to flee off the Pope's insanely OP power that is backed up by the believers of the Three Heroes Church.

Itsuki and Ren ARE FINALLY BACK, and the 4 heroes are pitted together to defeat the evil that is the Pope and their practices. Episode 16 or 17's end card is finally revealed why, and the Queen (and her Shadows) is in charge of that also. Still haven't seen her anywhere, maybe soon?

Pope vs. the Melromarc Kingdom and the 4 heroes.
As always, their reasoning is stifled at Naofumi's explanation, literally their wake-up call at their inabilities to understand the world at large.

Naofumi > Itsuki > Ren > Motoyasu in head reasoning. Yeah, this looks like correct. Even Naofumi's party agrees. With the promise of Fitoria, they stand strong, united together.

Aren't surprised that this is the calm before the storm, and the tiring Pope continues to be no pushover.
Eerie feelings to be continued...
May 15, 2019 8:34 AM
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This episodes pacing is bad yes but it was such a good cathartic release to see naofumi tear into everyone who deserved it for once and not be stopped by anyone before he does.
May 15, 2019 8:36 AM

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Naofumi speaking upwas good, hopefully this is the turning point for people to stop being a bitch towards him. Otherwise, queen mcbitch still needs to get what she deserves
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May 15, 2019 8:39 AM

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Well we finally get to see the 4 heroes working together. Motoyasu is still dumb af thou and he was desparately trying to push all the guilt on itsuki and ren which was funny.
May 15, 2019 8:40 AM

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The story of this episode has seemed a bit lazy in every aspect, it does not have a clear reason why to gather them in one place, it is strange that all this happens at an accelerated pace and without so much deepening.

Now as for the characters are just as idiots from the first episode ...
May 15, 2019 8:46 AM

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Bad story and character writing.
May 15, 2019 8:56 AM
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Even at 2x this episode was unbearable. I am pretty sure that if I were to make a top 10 list of most annoying anime characters, all 10 of them would be from this fucking bullshit series. Naofumi, Raphtalia, Filo, Spear Hero etc are all annoying af.

Only 6 more episodes to go, wew.

1/5 for the episode.
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May 15, 2019 8:56 AM
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Time to play rope a pope until the Queen arrives. At least Naofumi keeps his promise to the other queen
May 15, 2019 9:00 AM

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That was painful to watch. They did a recap in the midst of a battle :(
May 15, 2019 9:00 AM

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At this point I just really do not care how the story will go. The pope is lame af and has to explain his actions.

Most of the characters are annoying af and they just manage to get worse after each passing episode.

I made it this far so I might as well watch it till the end.
May 15, 2019 9:06 AM
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Fuck how stupid are they all not to fight altogether in a desperate time of need when the Pope is still there and regained the trust of... Know what nevermind, this show's stupid and its characters are as bad as in other anime. Nothing is quite unique, except the premise in fact...
I like how the Pope answers (in the subs I read) "Dear me, I can hardly bear to watch.", it describes so well this episode, and this anime if I weren't attracted by flashy fighting animation and an isekai premise.
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May 15, 2019 9:07 AM
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Good lord we get it, other heroes are incompetent but can't they actually deal with the pope first instead of shit talking, arguing against each other??

These past few fights are similar to a turn-based game for no reason.

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May 15, 2019 9:11 AM
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in this episode myne was bearable and spear hero was fuuny, which was a new thing in this anime
May 15, 2019 9:16 AM

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To all of the episode in the S1... This is the most boring episode ever than it imagine...
Idk why I say that more chit chat, less real battle, and more fault accused that cause become an idiot heroes while the pope become, stronger and powerful than the heroes except shield.
May 15, 2019 9:19 AM

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Tmw the heroes stop in the middle of a battle to argue, instead of dealing with the Pope first who’s preparing to attack them. They’re a bunch of kids. Pope or Fitoria, plz kill them.
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May 15, 2019 9:32 AM

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There it is! Finally, we get some of the sweet, sweet, justice porn that the series has been building towards for 18 episodes. Fanboys can rejoice that their justice blueballs have finally been relieved. Of course, I didn't expect it to happen in the middle of a major fight. I can't tell if this decision was a misguided attempt at levity, or if the writing is just that braindead.

Regardless, this episode was completely boring and predictable, with no tension whatsoever. Next to nothing happened to advance the plot. The events from the last couple of episodes could have been compressed into an episode or even half an episode; but instead they've been dragged out to pad the runtime. This whole sequence with the pope is nothing more than a giant plot convenience to get all the heroes on the same page.

Naturally, things end on yet another cliffhanger, because that is the only way that this show knows how to maintain interest or a semblance of suspense. What a joke.

What I find most hilarious is that people are complaining that this show has gone downhill from the first four episodes. I'll readily agree that it's gotten worse, but seriously; the opening of this series was filled with as much lazy, inept writing as these later episodes. Complete with bad character development, plot conveniences, and forced edge.

I guess all it takes for people to hail a series as the next masterpiece is an edgy hook, no matter how badly executed it might be.
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May 15, 2019 9:42 AM

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That Pope’s a bad one. Excellent episode.
May 15, 2019 9:48 AM

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Wtf, they stretched this part so much compared to the manga. I don't remember the manga having that many flashbacks and blaming during the fight.
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May 15, 2019 9:53 AM
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Shield Hero has gotten to the point to where the only way for it to keep suspense is to end an episode on a cliffhanger. What a complete joke. The series slowly when downhill from episode 5, but I still kept high hopes that the climax of show would redeem all of that. I was terribly wrong. This felt like a recap episode and the writing was terrible. Well, I've made it this far so I might as well complete it. Disappointed.
May 15, 2019 10:01 AM

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I think the way to resolve things and work together better is for all FOUR of them to admit that they made some bad choices like being stubborn, ignorant, arrogant and what not. That's the only way they can start back at square one and put everything right.

May 15, 2019 10:08 AM
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I think the way to resolve things and work together better is for all FOUR of them to admit that they made some bad choices like being stubborn, ignorant, arrogant and what not. That's the only way they can start back at square one and put everything right.



Well Naofumi cant admit he is wrong because that would destroy the wish fulliment
May 15, 2019 10:11 AM

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Finally after 19 episodes Naofumi decided to properly talk to the rest of the heroes (and they actually decided to listen!) instead of giving them angry glares the whole time
May 15, 2019 10:38 AM

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Ah man the writing/dialogue in this show is so cringey at times. And the simp is the worst character in this show.lol.
May 15, 2019 10:41 AM
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An entire episode where the Shield Hero stands in the same place in a pit!

I actually thought the other two heroes were dead. Because it happened after the bird queen talking about dead heroes being replaced with new ones. I wonder if that was intended as misdirection. Subtle, in that case. Though I don't think it was the intention.

This made me laugh:

"You're fighting among yourselves in this situation? Our so-called heroes are an utter disgrace. You really should be cleansed at once. Fortunately, you gave us time to generate enough mana."

YES! Finally calling out the fact that one side talks while the other builds up power in a battle.
May 15, 2019 10:52 AM

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The entire time I was thinking. Uniting is cool and all but can we stab Malty real quick?
May 15, 2019 11:06 AM

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lmao basically this whole episode is more justice masturbation and naofumi annoyingly shaming all of the heroes while they annoyingly try to defend themselves

pepega

May 15, 2019 11:12 AM

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I wonder why they do not replicate more of those weapons, they go around anoying the heroes instead of helping in the waves, Oh of course! someone has the answer that in the novels that weapon consumes much mana blah blah.... but at least it would appreciated that people who are not heroes will try to do something by the waves, but it is too much to ask a this story which breathes artificiality in every molecule of their existence.
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"The Spear Hero and his party are annoying"



Surely you are right Filo


Also Guys you shouldn't quarrel among yourselves when the enemy is charging his weapon.





And now the heroes have gathered the major battle begins.






May 15, 2019 11:14 AM

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Ok thats it. This anime is starting to annoy me so much with all the talking and just standing. Fight already(technically, they're fighting?but like its not). This anime fights is not its strong point that its so cringe to watch it. Im -1 rating on this anime. 6/10 now. I hope they improve the fight scenes.
May 15, 2019 11:16 AM
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this episode felt like a recap to me tbh...


it's partly filler, but I think it's filler I kinda wish was in the manga :> He really needed to get out about it.
May 15, 2019 11:17 AM

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lmao basically this whole episode is more justice masturbation and naofumi annoyingly shaming all of the heroes while they annoyingly try to defend themselves

pepega


Its been like that for like since from the start 🤣
May 15, 2019 11:18 AM

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Thet pope is fucking annoying, i hope he dies in the next episode
May 15, 2019 11:25 AM

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Ouch! Naofumi stabbed the harsh truth about the heroes own messes >o<; At the end they are somehow managing to work together. I am curious how this'll go :)

It was a ok episode. I'm sure that Pope will have his lesson learned -w-
May 15, 2019 11:27 AM
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Hmm so in the past the church led an attempt to create transformable weapons. Melty's comments really showed just much of a knowledge gap there is between her and her sister. Good to see that the Bow and Sword heroes managed to survive the church's trap. Naofumi's lecture of the heroes though was pretty amusing as it contained both undeniable facts and his own personal feelings as well. Despite his strong desire to not work with them its good that he remembered the promise to Fitoria. It was quite the impressive sight seeing the heroes and their allies stand together to face a common foe. Overall an excellent ep that while expanding upon the church's conspiracy also did well to allow Naofumi to express all of the frustrations that he had encountered in the past in relation to his fellow heroes. Looking forward to see how they fare against the pope and the church next ep. While i still view the spear hero as an idiot at least here he's more bearable because he at least is able to show that he can reflect on his errors to a degree.
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May 15, 2019 11:28 AM

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That was way, way too slow. I get that Naofumi and the other Heroes have got a lot of issues to work through with each other, but the amount of time just spent standing around and talking was way too much; in reality, all that happened this episode was Ren and Itsuki returning and the Heroes reluctantly agreeing to work together. And frankly, that did not need to take an entire episode.
May 15, 2019 11:32 AM

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They should have moved the taking scenes to until after the fight. That felt cheap.
May 15, 2019 11:48 AM

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OMG we needed to wait WHOLE 19 EPISODES to make spear hero to STFU! This should happen at least 10 episodes ego. God that painful episode to watch...


Also, Pope's super attack is basically Nero Claudius noble phantasm?
May 15, 2019 11:50 AM
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they destroyed all the tense from this giant battle with cheap talkings in the middle of the battle
May 15, 2019 11:51 AM

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wolfwing said:
justasadguy said:
this episode felt like a recap to me tbh...


it's partly filler, but I think it's filler I kinda wish was in the manga :> He really needed to get out about it.

true, but I had great expectations for this week's episode, so watching a 20 minutes episode where 15 are of talked recap/filler made me a bit disappointed
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