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May 14, 9:55 PM

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That scene with Marco gave me chills. Poor thing. I think they showed it before, if I'm not mistaken but still seeing it again made my stomach turn. I felt so sorry for him.

I'm excited for the next episode. I think I have a fair idea how this season will end.
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May 14, 11:57 PM
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Why are they relying on the beta Armin? Can he just get eaten already? Tired of seeing him.
 
May 15, 12:39 AM

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okay this is it!
This episode finally reached the part of the Manga that i stopped reading!
from this point-on I don't know that's next! not even a hint! therefore i'm now gonna stop reading discussions because MAL people are full of spoilerish bastards.
 
May 15, 2:05 AM
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This episode was amazing.. I loved it so much. I am really scared about Hange, though. I hope that she is OK and hasn't died.
 
May 15, 4:13 AM
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Why are they relying on the beta Armin? Can he just get eaten already? Tired of seeing him.


...? Why the hate on Armin? I dont get it, hes evolved a lot out of the trio compared to Mikasa and Eren at this point, and hes even the one who discovered Reiner was inside the walls. They would of been screwed on that part without him cause even erwin was kinda shocked at the suggestion to search inside the walls.
 
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nanidatosama97 said:
Anime-is-King said:
Why are they relying on the beta Armin? Can he just get eaten already? Tired of seeing him.


...? Why the hate on Armin? I dont get it, hes evolved a lot out of the trio compared to Mikasa and Eren at this point, and hes even the one who discovered Reiner was inside the walls. They would of been screwed on that part without him cause even erwin was kinda shocked at the suggestion to search inside the walls.


He also figured out that the collosal Titan was in the barrel.
 
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zeroj said:
This thread seriously needs some spoiler cleaning work to do. I have to agree with someone up there: manga readers need a separate thread because they can't hold themselves. Some can, though

So far, I have seen Bertholt transform three times.

First episode of the entire series: a thunder struck transformation, apparently absorbed by the walls. Second season, when they get busted, almost no one died when he transformed. Third season, a nuclear bomb transformation, killing off at least 4-5 people.

Inconsistency? Or is it an ability of the colossal titan?



I think he can choice when transforming
 
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Mattinator95 said:
zeroj said:
This thread seriously needs some spoiler cleaning work to do. I have to agree with someone up there: manga readers need a separate thread because they can't hold themselves. Some can, though

So far, I have seen Bertholt transform three times.

First episode of the entire series: a thunder struck transformation, apparently absorbed by the walls. Second season, when they get busted, almost no one died when he transformed. Third season, a nuclear bomb transformation, killing off at least 4-5 people.

Inconsistency? Or is it an ability of the colossal titan?



I think he can choice when transforming
maybe it's the ability of other colossal titan,
1. bert can emit a lot of smoke and knock off any objects that try to approach it (used in season 2)
2. bert can blow up the area where he is, when he wants to transform (used in this episode)
just like Titan Armor and Titan Eren, it seems that each Titan Shifler has some unique abilities, while the Titan Beast I want to immediately see, what abilities he has, will it be more shocking than what I've seen now
 
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Mattinator95 said:
nanidatosama97 said:


...? Why the hate on Armin? I dont get it, hes evolved a lot out of the trio compared to Mikasa and Eren at this point, and hes even the one who discovered Reiner was inside the walls. They would of been screwed on that part without him cause even erwin was kinda shocked at the suggestion to search inside the walls.


He also figured out that the collosal Titan was in the barrel.
Armin is the most genius troop among the Levi squad, if I was not mistaken before he managed to find the identity of the female Titan, then found the idea of ​​closing trost gates with large rocks, finding reiner and bertold identities, finding the idea of ​​operating at night at the Shenanshina gate, finding a reiner hiding behind a wall and finally he found Bertolt in a barrel thrown long distances by Titan beasts, his contribution was the most, maybe humanity would be extinct without armin
 
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It might be just my personal feelings interfering, but I'm kinda disappointed with how they handled the camera shots and close ups. I feel like the characters' emotions (<- okay, mostly Bertholdt's) weren't really conveyed how I'd wanted them to. Otherwise it was overall a decent episode.
Don't worry, the next episode trigger adrenaline, I'm wondering who will die? and who will win this war? will humanity inside the wall be destroyed? are they going to the basement? obviously I don't need FUCKING SPOILER from manga readers
 
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Raizel said:
I was on the verge of tears when Marco said we didn't even talked this through poor guy he died without saying anything.

I can't believe their goal is to kill all humans inside the walls, Poor Armin has to take order in a situation like that.








Someone must really have had a thing or two for Mikasa.


what the heck, how many milliseconds between each frame?

Also, DID HANGE JUST DIE???
 
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what the heck, how many milliseconds between each frame?

Also, DID HANGE JUST DIE???
Dunno tbh I use VLC media player.
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this episode was really really stressful it's not good for my heart and mental health, its a full 20 minute of my heart beating too fast i even cried, not because of a touching scene, not happy tears, not sad tears, just simply stressed out tears.

- Marco being killed by BRA :Stressful
- Scouts trying to shoot Reiner while need to maneuver at the right time to avoid explosion :Stressful
- Me shouting REINER IS NOT DEAD YET STOP CELEBRATING/CRYING :Stressful
- Armin fucking flying to berthold and talking with him on the roof :FuckingStressful
- Mikasa trying to kill Berthold and save Armin :Comfy
HOW NICE IT IS TO FINALLY SEE MIKASA IN ACTION AGAIN!!! DAMN I FORGOT HOW MUCH I LOVE HER
- Berthold transforming and destroying everything :stressful
- Hange and Moblit possibly die :stressful
- Armin Eren etc panicking not knowing what to do :STRESSFUL
- ENDING SONG AND HAVE TO WAIT ONE MORE WEEK TO KNOW WHAT GOING TO HAPPEN :STRESSFUL
 
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Such an interesting episode!


 
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I'm just sitting here thinking the writing quality has been steadily dropping. The events appear to happen just to support certain outcomes. Reiner needs a sudden new ability to survive both this and previous episode. Bert needs a third transformation event for who knows what reason.

I mean, why did Misaka's sneak attack fail? One frame, she is right behind Bert with him none the wiser, ready to strike. And in the time it takes her to actually finish the strike, Bert has the time to both notice and react. If you need the sneak attack to fail, at least give a decent reason. Now the reason is plot armor.
 
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I'm just sitting here thinking the writing quality has been steadily dropping. The events appear to happen just to support certain outcomes. Reiner needs a sudden new ability to survive both this and previous episode. Bert needs a third transformation event for who knows what reason.

I mean, why did Misaka's sneak attack fail? One frame, she is right behind Bert with him none the wiser, ready to strike. And in the time it takes her to actually finish the strike, Bert has the time to both notice and react. If you need the sneak attack to fail, at least give a decent reason. Now the reason is plot armor.


People need to realize how much information the viewer and the characters don't know about titans. Even Armin mentioned it in the episode their lack of information on titans. These "plot armors" should be kind of expected when you know almost nothing about titans, especially shifter's abilities. But putting that aside, it's clear that you failed to realize that Bert is actually a very skilled fighter as he placed 3rd amongst the 104th and he didn't even try (as they have mentioned earlier). It is just now he is living his full potential as a warrior after overcoming his weakness/timidness. Everything happens for a reason and some people just fail to realize it.
 
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Dr4kon said:
I'm just sitting here thinking the writing quality has been steadily dropping. The events appear to happen just to support certain outcomes. Reiner needs a sudden new ability to survive both this and previous episode. Bert needs a third transformation event for who knows what reason.

I mean, why did Misaka's sneak attack fail? One frame, she is right behind Bert with him none the wiser, ready to strike. And in the time it takes her to actually finish the strike, Bert has the time to both notice and react. If you need the sneak attack to fail, at least give a decent reason. Now the reason is plot armor.


I totally understand your Reiner complaint, I don't like it either, but the Bertholdt one is really pushing it, those are normally what happens in action series those are things that make fictional action more exciting than the real world action, if something as simple as a character countering an opponent attack from behind dampens your suspension of disbelief, then you might as well start complaining about the 3d gear that it is impossible for characters to fly around like that and many other things that you would expect in a anime or fiction.

How didn't you complain about Levi being able to dodge all those bullets back in season 3 part 1 when Kenny squad was attacking him? Since we are going with logic here?

Think about it this way, if the author wanted to he could have made Bertholdt notice Mikasa present and simple move out of the way, but to us the audience that wouldn't be cool or exciting, because we would be expecting Mikasa to attack now.

Making Mikasa show up unexpectedly can make the audience surprise, excited etc, and just in the last second you thought she got him, he quickly counter her and from that scene the audience releases more emotion, maybe anger, surprise, excitement etc.

The only purpose of that scene was to create a cool and exciting fight scene, that is all, just like in every other action series, Now if we were to follow real world logic, bertholdt head would be on the ground and he would die, wouldn't that be anticlimatic?

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That reason is totally apart of it, he is now showing everyone his true potential, but I don't think that is what @Dr4kon cares about, he is just saying that Bertholdt should have died because Mikasa did a sneak attack on him and to @Dr4kon there is no way a fictional character in a action series can counter a sneak attack from behind, because that is totally not normal in action series. You see the point I'm getting at?
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Dr4kon said:
I'm just sitting here thinking the writing quality has been steadily dropping. The events appear to happen just to support certain outcomes. Reiner needs a sudden new ability to survive both this and previous episode. Bert needs a third transformation event for who knows what reason.

I mean, why did Misaka's sneak attack fail? One frame, she is right behind Bert with him none the wiser, ready to strike. And in the time it takes her to actually finish the strike, Bert has the time to both notice and react. If you need the sneak attack to fail, at least give a decent reason. Now the reason is plot armor.


generally this story is told from the perspective of the characters a lot of information is withheld. A LOT OF INFORMATION is withheld.
for reiner its clearly hinted its a titan ability

the reason being bertolt was aware of everyones position all along and knew mikasa would act in this manner, he even hinted armin was just buying time so the others could kill reiner which implies he knew the position of those, so he probably was aware of where everyone was anyway in order to react to any situation, he also knows mikasa and could've easily predicted that they would try that, and even if not, people make sounds when they move, mikasa used her 3DM one would ofc notice that
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Come On. You cannot just judge this is bad just because they used cgi for the colossal titan.cgi nowdays has improved for 2d animation. And its blend very well with 2d.

I dont complain about cgi colossal titan. But my critism is for lot of static animation.
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generally this story is told from the perspective of the characters a lot of information is withheld. A LOT OF INFORMATION is withheld.
for reiner its clearly hinted its a titan ability

the reason being bertolt was aware of everyones position all along and knew mikasa would act in this manner, he even hinted armin was just buying time so the others could kill reiner which implies he knew the position of those, so he probably was aware of where everyone was anyway in order to react to any situation, he also knows mikasa and could've easily predicted that they would try that, and even if not, people make sounds when they move, mikasa used her 3DM one would ofc notice that


Bad writing doesn't mean you can't think of a reason things happen. I could think of a bunch of causes for those events. What makes it bad writing is that it feels contrived. The characters' choices are subordinate to the story the writer has in mind.
You want some general secret revealed, OK. You want some special secret revealed? Foreshadow, hint, introduce.
 
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Poor Marco. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
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Whats the soundtrack playing when bertholdt was about transform?
 
May 16, 3:45 AM
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Another great episode and the way Marco died was sad, they dint give him a chance .
 
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Whats the soundtrack playing when bertholdt was about transform?

Not yet released, it was a remix of YouSeeBigGirl T:T, the betrayal ost from season 2 episode 6
 
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Dr4kon said:
Nim0174 said:

generally this story is told from the perspective of the characters a lot of information is withheld. A LOT OF INFORMATION is withheld.
for reiner its clearly hinted its a titan ability

the reason being bertolt was aware of everyones position all along and knew mikasa would act in this manner, he even hinted armin was just buying time so the others could kill reiner which implies he knew the position of those, so he probably was aware of where everyone was anyway in order to react to any situation, he also knows mikasa and could've easily predicted that they would try that, and even if not, people make sounds when they move, mikasa used her 3DM one would ofc notice that


Bad writing doesn't mean you can't think of a reason things happen. I could think of a bunch of causes for those events. What makes it bad writing is that it feels contrived. The characters' choices are subordinate to the story the writer has in mind.
You want some general secret revealed, OK. You want some special secret revealed? Foreshadow, hint, introduce.


really? doesn't feel like that to me at all
too bad i guess
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Whats the soundtrack playing when bertholdt was about transform?
New Youseebiggirl mix called "Apple Seed"
 
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SUPER LOVE THIS EPISODE, as we have some back story from Marco then afterwards is the real fight...

and now the COLOSSAL TITAN IS HERE... armin and the rest of group decision will Be tested here, and I CANT WAIT FOR THE NEXT WEEKS EPISODE... ANOTHER INTENSE BATTLE COMING UP...
 
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sim0n2170 said:
LCorcuera said:
Whats the soundtrack playing when bertholdt was about transform?
New Youseebiggirl mix called "Apple Seed"
thanks. Im gonna search it now.
 
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LCorcuera said:
sim0n2170 said:
New Youseebiggirl mix called "Apple Seed"
thanks. Im gonna search it now.
It won’t be online yet. Have to wait for S3 OST album to drop.
 
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Dr4kon said:
I'm just sitting here thinking the writing quality has been steadily dropping. The events appear to happen just to support certain outcomes. Reiner needs a sudden new ability to survive both this and previous episode. Bert needs a third transformation event for who knows what reason.

I mean, why did Misaka's sneak attack fail? One frame, she is right behind Bert with him none the wiser, ready to strike. And in the time it takes her to actually finish the strike, Bert has the time to both notice and react. If you need the sneak attack to fail, at least give a decent reason. Now the reason is plot armor.


>Bert fell from a high place in his titan during episode 7 of season 2, causing a blast. This time it was a whole complete transformation from air, hence the name of the episode, descent.

>Since a shifter is someone that willfully creates a titan around him out of thin air, so it's now easy to think he is also able to kind of abandon his body if it's destroyed and use the Titans' nervous system and brain to sustain himself. (i.e. transfer his consciousness). It was foreshadowed when Mikasa tried to kill Bert during the reveal ep 2x6

>Bert is a warrior. Can't say much because spoilers but he was pretty much the third position among the 104th, higher than Annie. He was strong, he was just weak minded and timid; his current self is his character development with all he had to go through.
He even hinted that armin was buying time, and surrounding him, so he was well aware of an ambush.
 
May 16, 12:55 PM
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This episode finished in like 10 min, wtf!

Marco's death was insane. I still remember it as one of the biggest "Holy shit." moments from the manga, and the adaptation didn't disappoint.

Reiner is some BS, but the rest of the episode with Bertholdt was great.

Lastly, the music for this episode was amazing.
 
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Dr4kon said:

I mean, why did Misaka's sneak attack fail? One frame, she is right behind Bert with him none the wiser, ready to strike. And in the time it takes her to actually finish the strike, Bert has the time to both notice and react. If you need the sneak attack to fail, at least give a decent reason. Now the reason is plot armor.


What I am about to write its not a manga spoiler because its just a theory, but theres speculation about why mikasa couldnt kill berthold

 
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The track used for Bert's Nuke Transformation was incredible . Highlights how much music and visuals can enhance the manga scenes when done right. I didn't think much of it when reading the panels but that moment in the anime was superb. Makes me for very hopeful and excited for the next "big event" that follows next episode, might be another classic anime moment if nail the right music and visuals like with this episode.

The tone of voice Bert was using as he was awakening to his true potential was great. Soldiers like Bert are some of the deadliest.

Marco was flashback was sad to watch, dude simply was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Mad hype for the next episode.
 
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Where is it I don't see it anywhere

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Amazing honestly.
But it looks like the Survey Corps just lost half of their manpower. I doubt Hange is dead though
I understand the criticism on the CGI colossal titan, it really does break my immersion on the episode, but it's not the worst CGI i've ever seen, plus it's understandable due to the problems WIT is going through right now
I'm just waiting for Levi vs Beast Titan at this rate. I didn't read the manga but i know for a fact that's going to happen. Besides, it's teased in the opening
 
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I'm just curious about when Hiroyuki's full tracks are getting released.
 
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This episode finished in like 10 min, wtf!

Marco's death was insane. I still remember it as one of the biggest "Holy shit." moments from the manga, and the adaptation didn't disappoint.

Reiner is some BS, but the rest of the episode with Bertholdt was great.

Lastly, the music for this episode was amazing.

The hype is killing me. Why 10 minutes :’(
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Another great episode as usual from AoT. That flashback was interesting, finally we know why Marco had to die, he heard too much. So they just want everyone to die without giving a specific reason, wonder what their plan is exactly. I hope Hange survived that blast, they probably should've known better than to engage the armored titan while Bertolt hasn't transformed yet. They are really in a pinch there, how do you defeat something that huge? Especially with only a few people left, even though one of them is Mikasa haha.
 
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Damit Marco, you died again!
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Oh it's about to get really bad now.
 
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Thought I clicked on the wrong episode for a second, been so long since marco’s death that I completely forgot he played a part with Bertholdt and Reiner
 
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fantastic episode. For a second I thought I'm watching wrong episode lol
 
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welll the raveal... this gets more and more thrilling
 
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Poor boy Marcon, man...

And suddenly everything is up to Armin. Yikes, he's in a lot of pressure.
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Some making me feel sad about Marco, damn it!
 
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I don't remember anything about Marco other than his death but I still felt bad when he got killed.

Reiner has some serious plot armour in this episode.

Bertholdt has some balls in this episode!
 
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Deym you titan.
Looking forward the next episode.
 
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I'm glad Reinhart didn't die :))

I just hope that Hanji doesn't die either (the crazy scientist).
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Savage ending.. I'm expecting a bit more from Armin because he usually is so smart and probably has an IQ of 9000..

I haven't read the Manga so it's a bit confusing as to how Reiner got back up on his feet after such a brutal fight.

There's so much action in this season I am in love with it.
 
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