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May 8, 6:18 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Eww, the Spear hero is back and he's pissed. He and Naofumi never just never seems to see eye to the eye in this show especially this episode..

Now he even has a new reason to hate Naofumi. Honestly, this episode had a lot of rage moments. Still can't stand Myne either since trouble always seems to follow wherever she goes too.
 
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May 8, 7:57 AM
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Gotta be honest, this episode was really good. Now finally i have the dose of real shit that i waited for months
 
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May 8, 7:58 AM

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Not a bad episode.

Looks like the religious order is taking over the country.

Still, hate Malty.

 
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May 8, 8:03 AM

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I liked how they animated this fight. Only bad point as usual is music during the battle.
 
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May 8, 8:12 AM
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well things sure took a pretty drastic direction this week

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May 8, 8:12 AM
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While spear hero can be an idiot its kinda surprising that he saw Ren and Itsuki given his expressions as he revealed their deaths to Naofumi. Though the trap was a cunning one Filo's new strength as well as the party's desire to protect Naofumi from the trap sure helped in swinging the odds to Naofumi's favour. Melty and Filo's combo attack sure was impressive. Naofumi's declaration about the reason for their strength though sure was a strong one and was a like a slap in the face to the spear hero. Hmm the power of that one strike that was aimed at them really was overwhelming considering the damage. To think that the church ended becoming the main villain here and not the princess.
A solid and excellent ep that while featuring some excellent combat and some excellent teamwork also did well to intruduce a real game changer in the form of the reveal of the new villain.
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May 8, 8:16 AM

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This crap is keep getting worse, and it had potential to do good. Now it's just painful to watch
 
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May 8, 8:17 AM
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Only saw the raw version but has much i loved this episode i cant help but complain about why does this director keeps making raphtalia taking the back seat in fights. She hardly does anything while in LN and even mamga she a badass.

Overall was a good episode i actualy liked the change with the lighting prison where its myne that uses instead of the spear hero.
 
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May 8, 8:31 AM
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Holy fuck. That was an amazing episode!!
 
May 8, 8:41 AM

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Well, that was unexpected, without scales the pope went from common church douchebag to killing machine.

I really wasn't expecting another "human vs human contest ignoring there are waves of overpowered monsters attacking us". This kind of stupid struggle really turns me off and is the exact reason why I didn't like AoT S3 part 1.

Edit: Also, the spear hero is an idiot, like always.
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18 episodes and motoyasu might finally wake the fuck up. Jesus christ this anime..

Also, don't tell me we're in for a redemption arc for motoyasu, myne and the king now that the church wants to get rid of them.
 
May 8, 8:47 AM

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Now finally Malty and the Spear hero will be less annoying
 
May 8, 8:47 AM

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Holy pope, talk about an unexpected twist.

Decent episode overall, at least it wasn't boring.

And now it's time for Spear Hero and Myne redemption (?) Overeager source reader, please don't answer this.
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May 8, 8:49 AM

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Well that escalated quickly, Shit just went 0-100 real quick. Quite the twist and hopefully Spear hero and that bitch will finally reconsider their bad actions against Naofumi.

Now, whats gonna happen if Ren and Itsuki are dead? Will Fitoria kill them anyway?
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May 8, 8:54 AM

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Healmeplz said:
This kind of stupid struggle really turns me off and is the exact reason why I didn't like AoT S3 part 1.



With the difference that AoT has always been humans vs humans, which was made clear enough since S2 and S3 Part 1.

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May 8, 8:56 AM

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The spear hero had a different weapon in the manga, I wonder why they changed it.



HereticHunter said:
Healmeplz said:
This kind of stupid struggle really turns me off and is the exact reason why I didn't like AoT S3 part 1.



With the difference that AoT has always been humans vs humans, which was made clear enough since S2 and S3 Part 1.



Oh, you are right.
 
May 8, 9:02 AM

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I'll say it: I've never hated the Spear Hero. I just think he's an idiot and is easily manipulated by Myne.
 
May 8, 9:08 AM
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I don't know why people are blaming Ren for the whole dragon thing, how did he know that it was going to start a plague.
 
May 8, 9:11 AM

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Man, spear hero is such an idiot and even still remains well, stopped reading vol 11 halfway because of this trash of a hero and don't know when if I'll continue to read it though.

Also, the best part of the series is coming.
 
May 8, 9:14 AM

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So many good ideas wasted on shitty writing.

It seems like the things only work in this show when a plot device is applied. The real enemy being the church I saw miles away but I really think it was an unnecessary plot device for Motoyasu realize how stupid he has been. I was waiting for some character development on him and that was the worst way possible to do it.

The new combo skills are sick though
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May 8, 9:18 AM

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Well shit... i did not expect that! I really thought it was Myne who attacked Itsuki & Ren but now she's in danger too... daaaamn

I'm really really hoping that Itsuki & Ren aren't actually dead but i don't see how they could have survived that blast wen Naofumi & Motoyasu only just made it out alive with all that defense
 
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Motoyasu finally has his chance to make amends after this, I don't really like the guy but I don't hate him either I realize he is just really ignorant and is too trusting of his party members. Myne on the other hand I still hate her and am so glad she's getting betrayed by the people she was working with, at least I think she was working with the church.
 
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The episode started with usual irritating vibe but then it had a great fight and finally dumb motoyasu learnt some truth I hope he will be less annoying.
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May 8, 9:58 AM

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Man this writing is dumb.

"If you don't tell them they're wrong, you're basically admitting your guilt."

Was this written by a 12-year-old? He already denied the allegations when they were made, but no one believed him because that was what the plot needed to happen. The author contrived the circumstances so that Naofumi would be "forced" to buy slaves and act like an emo 24/7. The story is trying to backtrack for the sake of having a nonsensical reconciliation arc.

This subplot would be far more effective if he had some practical way of proving his innocence. As it is the other heroes have no reason to even entertain his side of the story. But of course, a solution that conundrum comes later in the episode!

Once they actually get to the border, Naofumi says "we'll force our way through". But wasn't the whole point of the last few episodes that they couldn't force their way through the border?

What the fuck is happening in this anime?

Then Melty says "this isn't the time to be worrying about appearances". But isn't the whole point of this episode for Naofumi to try and regain the trust of one of the heroes and keep his promise to the chicken queen?

What the fuck is happening in this anime?

As for the rest of the epsiode, we get yet another evil character that is evil, and who conveniently wants to depose the royal family as well as kill the heroes. This will also have the fortuitous side effect of both absolving Naofumi as well as sidelining the conflict between him and the royal family. I guess the author realized that they had no idea how to advance the narrative, so they just dropped a literal nuke on the thing to blow all their problems away.

The implication is that none of these characters are going to get any kind of earned development. Naofumi doesn't have to prove his innocence or put aside his contempt for the royal family in order to work with the other heroes, and the other heroes don't need to get over being arrogant dimwits. Instead, we get another deus ex machina character to obviate all the existing conflicts in the narrative. Why bother resolving conflicts when you can just write them out of existence with a cheap plot device?

I'm sure fans will laud this development as a brilliant setup to an amazing plot twist, but in reality it makes so much of the story unnecessary. A huge amount of filler could have been cut out of the middle episodes, while content from the second cour could have been moved to the beginning of the story, even the first or second episode. Revealing the church as the true antagonist after so long isn't so much remarkable feat of writing as a cop-out. Why bother doing the work of concealing the true threat in your story when you can just write them out of it until the plot needs them again?
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Oof that animation was the epitome of average. Not a fan of the fight scene. Decided to read ahead a bit and all i can say is hopefully it'll at least be slightly above average.
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This crap is keep getting worse, and it had potential to do good. Now it's just painful to watch

I generally agree, but I actually liked this episode. It's been the first one in a while.
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May 8, 10:10 AM
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well we have a new antagonist, i didn`t think there was somebody more insane than myne but, I was wrong
 
May 8, 10:17 AM
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So the pope is attempting a coup d'etat
 
May 8, 10:20 AM
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The implication is that none of these characters are going to get any kind of earned development. Naofumi doesn't have to prove his innocence or put aside his contempt for the royal family in order to work with the other heroes, and the other heroes don't need to get over being arrogant dimwits. Instead, we get another deus ex machina character to obviate all the existing conflicts in the narrative. Why bother resolving conflicts when you can just write them out of existence with a cheap plot device?

Interesting narrative. I can confidently say that I agree with you, the show is really failing to push forward. I swear Naofumi wanted to go to the other country 10 episodes ago now, but nothing significant has happened, not even another Wave fight. The fact that they have now introduced another antagonist before properly dealing with Glass is incredibly frustrating.
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Konpurekkusu said:
zeus-faber said:
This crap is keep getting worse, and it had potential to do good. Now it's just painful to watch

I generally agree, but I actually liked this episode. It's been the first one in a while.


The whole thing seems so average and poorly made that it makes me wanna drop it. BUT it just so happens that this is one of the good ones this god awful season so... Im at a loss here
 
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Oh, Malty is back.

I don't like evil religious leaders.

Stupid pope.
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May 8, 10:27 AM

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nice... it takes a nuke from an evil pope to get through Motoyatsu's thick skull
 
May 8, 10:37 AM
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This just proves how god damn awful this show is now
Edit: the writing is awful, the ep was ok
 
May 8, 10:48 AM

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Fitting karma that the bitch gets backstabbed after all the shit she's pulled. Shame Naofumi had to block that attack to save his party though or we'd have one less headache to deal with.
 
May 8, 11:04 AM

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hmm, so because of these moronic religious fanatics, 4 heroes will finally have a reason to fight a common enemy, TOGETHER (waves failed miserably at doing just that)
 
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It's been three episodes in a row focusing on one fight: Against the dinosaur, against the bird queen, against the Spear Hero. This was one long, drawn-out conversation and duel.

If I have to hear "brainwashing shield" one more time....

They are both ordinary guys from Japan. Why would Motoyasu so easily think that Naofumi is evil from the very beginning?

All the repeating of the same arguments....

Okay that the pope is the enemy. But how can he have HUNDREDS of priests and priestesses go along with this? They all listen to his speech about lying and covering up murder, and they are fine with it. Even though they're from the church based on worshiping the heroes they are in the process of killing.

And how did they all move to the border, hundreds of them, without the government asking questions and sending someone to see what they are doing?
 
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This is getting tiring, just spending a whole episode on this duel that did literally nothing to progress the story in any way. Only the last few minutes of this episode were even remotely useful, with the Pope revealing his true colours. Obviously, because this has happened, Ren and Itsuki won't be dead and the Heroes will now unite to face a common enemy, but holy crap this is obnoxious.
 
May 8, 11:15 AM

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I'm just waiting for the queen.
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May 8, 11:18 AM

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Really Good Episode.


The fight was really done well.I am waiting for the nextepisode which will be good.

Also Myne getting beaten by Raphtalia was the best part.






 
May 8, 11:22 AM

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They are both ordinary guys from Japan. Why would Motoyasu so easily think that Naofumi is evil from the very beginning?

This was one of my main issues even in the first epsisode. It made no sense for the other heroes to be so against Naofumi right from the beginning.

Not enough characterization or setup to explain motivations.
 
May 8, 11:26 AM

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Malty/Myne will always be annoying and her acting made me cringe. Just her presence makes me feel irritated cuz nothing good comes from her ò_ó

Holly Molly! What a twist change of events! How they will get out of this mess?? Pope is the devil one here and I hope Motoyasu realizes now what's going on º-º;

Good episode!
 
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This episode was atrocious, probably the worst so far by a long shot. Animation took a big hit and the battle choreography was insultingly awful. I don't remember this part that well in the manga but here the priest actually made a lot of sense and if it wasn't for how stupidly cliiche and cartoonishly evil he's written, you could totally agree with his actions in the context of the setting.
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May 8, 11:39 AM

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Good action but terrible writing. It's too convenient of a plot device to make the spear hero an absolute idiot who is so easily manipulated by Myne and Myne is your typical dumb and evil princess who is jealous of her sibling who is next in line to the throne.

I like the main characters and the lore of the world is interesting but this lazy plot device is testing my patience. As for the pope, I'm hoping for there to be a good explanation for why their religion treats the shield hero as the devil and not another character that is evil for the sake of being evil.
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May 8, 11:44 AM
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There are plants out there that have more complex brain functions than Motoyasu. He was so annoying to watch that I actually fast forwarded a bit. And Myne is still as detestable as ever. Shieldbro should have just kept her out of the range of his shield.
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May 8, 11:47 AM
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pretty good episode , i like how one of the reasons the pope wanted to kill naofumi is that he didnt thank him for the holy water lol
 
May 8, 11:53 AM

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Shit Hero and Co. back at it again. I assumed that this will happen since episode 4. Not hating the show, but this really is wasted potential. Something that could be really good. Oh well, 7 more episodes. Will manage them somehow.
 
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The delicious irony of Myne and the king who have been constantly doing their dirty work for them being the main targets of the church's coup.

Although they really should realize they're dooming the world, including the part they want to rule, by deceiving and killing the heroes.
 
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what a thrilling episode. and I think this will continue to undergo on something i thought of. that whenever those 4 won't unite and won't get their shit together then the answer will be that they have to face such an enemy that will despise 4 of them, causing them to work as a team again. *sigh* its just what i think. but nevertheless it is such a great episode.
 
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Cucked spearfag and whore are back. Now why were they NOT left OUTSIDE the protective sphere when the airstrike came along? For all they did, they should've become a part of the post-strike crater. At least the whore realised she's been fucked with holy-water-soaked dildo behind the scenes by the very fanatics she exploited. Also, Raphtalia had second chance to kill that whore and again resorted to some puny flashlight.

Why would the spearfag repeatedly ask naofumi things in spite of "the brainwashing shield" being 'real'? Wouldn't this false belief mean that whatever naofumi says is immediately rendered an attempt at mind control? Asking him anything seems counterintuitive, given the cuck's ironic blind belief in whatever 'friends' say.

And i got +1 to list of fodder that needs to die - fanatics. Violently and brutally murdered, limb by limb, cut by cut. With no anesthetic and all awareness of their suffering. On screen with no details omitted. Same still does apply to spearfag and whore, ofc.

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May 8, 12:17 PM
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Naofumi vs. Motoyasu part 544! Again and again, it's stupid how this anime can lack individuality this much, all characters are just empty-headed dolls. Well, stuff is happening! More fake information and everyone bluntly believes!
 
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