Attack on Titan
| Can someone explain the massive hype behind this series to me? I watched the first season and I really just couldn't get into it at all. The characters came across as super bland to me, we are thrust almost immediately into these scenes we should feel bad about without any real character building so it's like "wow some people I knew nothing at all about and am totally indifferent about died, I feel nothing." The story was predictable at almost every turn in the first season, there isn't much investigation into world lore in the first season either, from memory. It just felt like they were trying to feels-bait me at most times and failing hard because they didn't even do the groundwork to make it successful. I dunno, is it just a slow-starter or something? EDIT: Thanks to everyone who participated constructively. Mods locked the thread due to fanboys having insanely huge spergfits so I can only update through this edit. Following the advice of people willing to offer real advice instead of having moronic rage seizures I watched Season 2 and 3 and found them enjoyable. I stand by finding Season 1 predictable for the most part and a bit of a slow starter, however. Enjoy yourselves on the forums, anime fans. |
Sasori_NagashiJun 26, 2019 3:55 AM
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Sasori_Nagashi said: Can someone explain the massive hype behind this series to me? I watched the first season and I really just couldn't get into it at all. The characters came across as super bland to me, we are thrust almost immediately into these scenes we should feel bad about without any real character building so it's like "wow some people I knew nothing at all about and am totally indifferent about died, I feel nothing." The story was predictable at almost every turn in the first season, there isn't much investigation into world lore in the first season either, from memory. It just felt like they were trying to feels-bait me at most times and failing hard because they didn't even do the groundwork to make it successful. I dunno, is it just a slow-starter or something? if you didn't enjoy the first season forget watching it, it builds up its mysteries a long time people like different things there is a lot of character development it just shows in subtle actions of characters and it takes time to build up the show is everything, except predictable.. but if you didn't enjoy it initially and don't feel compelled to watch it, just don't do it really i don't like gintama/mob and jojos, and don't get why people hype those shows either and think all the characters in those shows are bland so yeah, people have different taste, and thats basically it |
Cyb3Knight said: op here think his taste should be universally accepted. I was expecting this thread to drop sooner or later OP asked a question because he's curious if he should invest time into the second season and wants to have a nice, civil discussion on the matter rather than people sperging out and acting like he's somehow disparaging the series or pushing others to dislike it. |
Daphi said: Sasori_Nagashi said: Can someone explain the massive hype behind this series to me? I watched the first season and I really just couldn't get into it at all. The characters came across as super bland to me, we are thrust almost immediately into these scenes we should feel bad about without any real character building so it's like "wow some people I knew nothing at all about and am totally indifferent about died, I feel nothing." The story was predictable at almost every turn in the first season, there isn't much investigation into world lore in the first season either, from memory. It just felt like they were trying to feels-bait me at most times and failing hard because they didn't even do the groundwork to make it successful. I dunno, is it just a slow-starter or something? if you didn't enjoy the first season forget watching it, it builds up its mysteries a long time people like different things there is a lot of character development it just shows in subtle actions of characters and it takes time to build up the show is everything, except predictable.. but if you didn't enjoy it initially and don't feel compelled to watch it, just don't do it really i don't like gintama/mob and jojos, and don't get why people hype those shows either and think all the characters in those shows are bland so yeah, people have different taste, and thats basically it So you think I wouldn't like the way the storytelling is formatted if I wasn't a fan of the first season? Like it carries on the same way throughout the entire series? Fair enough, thanks for the the input. |
| yeah, i don't really get the hype. i'm kind of curious too |
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nanidatosama97 said: OP, this is the best answer you could get.Sasori_Nagashi said: Can someone explain the massive hype behind this series to me? I watched the first season and I really just couldn't get into it at all. The characters came across as super bland to me, we are thrust almost immediately into these scenes we should feel bad about without any real character building so it's like "wow some people I knew nothing at all about and am totally indifferent about died, I feel nothing." The story was predictable at almost every turn in the first season, there isn't much investigation into world lore in the first season either, from memory. It just felt like they were trying to feels-bait me at most times and failing hard because they didn't even do the groundwork to make it successful. I dunno, is it just a slow-starter or something? The glory of this series is that, the characters dont know much more than we do, and we learn about the world at the same pace as them and grow along side them with the series. Each season the show becomes more and more complex, especially with season 3 part 1 and 2. The characters also get more and more growth each season. The deaths, theyre not really trying to "feels-bait", you. Its just showing how powerful the enemy is and that we should show some concern on how the survey corps is gonna survive this ordeal |
| @Sasori_Nagashi yea thats my point, if you don't enjoy season 1 i don't think you would enjoy season 2 or season 3 either , what you could do is try to watch until episode 7/8 of season 2, if the twists until then aren't enough to make you interested into whats going on(and the characters) then you can stop wasting your time Attack on Titan does a huge amount of Foreshadowing/references towards stuff thats going to happen in s3 part 2/ season 4(when we get one) there is a lot of things one might not understand(lots of tiny details) and the world building will only finish in this season really but this mystery aspect is also something that enthralls many fans basically as nanidatosama97 said |
nanidatosama97 said: Sasori_Nagashi said: Can someone explain the massive hype behind this series to me? I watched the first season and I really just couldn't get into it at all. The characters came across as super bland to me, we are thrust almost immediately into these scenes we should feel bad about without any real character building so it's like "wow some people I knew nothing at all about and am totally indifferent about died, I feel nothing." The story was predictable at almost every turn in the first season, there isn't much investigation into world lore in the first season either, from memory. It just felt like they were trying to feels-bait me at most times and failing hard because they didn't even do the groundwork to make it successful. I dunno, is it just a slow-starter or something? The glory of this series is that, the characters dont know much more than we do, and we learn about the world at the same pace as them and grow along side them with the series. Each season the show becomes more and more complex, especially with season 3 part 1 and 2. The characters also get more and more growth each season. The deaths, theyre not really trying to "feels-bait", you. Its just showing how powerful the enemy is and that we should show some concern on how the survey corps is gonna survive this ordeal. Its one of the few series of anime/manga that executes the whole part of "is my favorite character gonna be okay?" or "is my favorite team going to be alright?" brilliantly for me because isayama is more than willing to off characters if it helps move the plot along and evolve it. That much I can definitely respect about the series. A lot of anime series have a serious problem with avoiding death when there should be death, in order to make sure no fans lose their favourites I.E. Naruto up until the war arc and even then the death was kept to a bare minimum and was mostly nameless faceless nobodies and characters they felt safe wouldn't be TOO sorely missed. |
nanidatosama97 said: Sasori_Nagashi said: That much I can definitely respect about the series. A lot of anime series have a serious problem with avoiding death when there should be death, in order to make sure no fans lose their favourites I.E. Naruto up until the war arc and even then the death was kept to a bare minimum and was mostly nameless faceless nobodies and characters they felt safe wouldn't be TOO sorely missed. Yeah, Id definitely read the manga and catch up with it, because everyone is insanely complex, and its fun seeing isayamas art quality improve each and every new arc. The manga is currently in its final stages, which means we only have like one more season of anime content left. Yeah, I might give the manga a go actually. It's my own hang up but I can tolerate somewhat slower paced stories, world-building ETC in printed format better than animated. |
| I'd say would should at least watch Season 2 and the first part of Season 3. Both of those arcs are different from Season 1 (Specially the first arc from Season 3). If you still don't like it, then it's not for you. But I do have to say that I disagree the hell out of your opinion. The characters may be the weakest part of the show, but they're far from being bad (specially the main 3 characters). Also, predictable? I'm not sure if I can even call this an opinion, that's a straight up lie. It's so far one of the most unpredictable shows I've seen. And yeah, Season 1 is my favorite anime of all time, because of this kind of storytelling, perfect direction and soundtrack, superb animation and the fact it's one of the few things I can really say it was epic |
BetterTasteApr 29, 2019 6:26 AM
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| I like this series which is why I'm hyped. |
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| The plot is very interesting in my opinion. |
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Sasori_Nagashi said: Can someone explain the massive hype behind this series to me? I watched the first season and I really just couldn't get into it at all. The characters came across as super bland to me, we are thrust almost immediately into these scenes we should feel bad about without any real character building so it's like "wow some people I knew nothing at all about and am totally indifferent about died, I feel nothing." The story was predictable at almost every turn in the first season, there isn't much investigation into world lore in the first season either, from memory. It just felt like they were trying to feels-bait me at most times and failing hard because they didn't even do the groundwork to make it successful. I dunno, is it just a slow-starter or something? has dbz, jojo. ttgl, mob psycho in favorites... yeah no point explaining |
BestBoiEren said: Sasori_Nagashi said: Can someone explain the massive hype behind this series to me? I watched the first season and I really just couldn't get into it at all. The characters came across as super bland to me, we are thrust almost immediately into these scenes we should feel bad about without any real character building so it's like "wow some people I knew nothing at all about and am totally indifferent about died, I feel nothing." The story was predictable at almost every turn in the first season, there isn't much investigation into world lore in the first season either, from memory. It just felt like they were trying to feels-bait me at most times and failing hard because they didn't even do the groundwork to make it successful. I dunno, is it just a slow-starter or something? has dbz, jojo. ttgl, mob psycho in favorites... yeah no point explaining Thanks for adding nothing to the discussion my dude. |
there is nothing to add for a 'discussion' like this LOL |
Previous replies show otherwise but okay my man. |
| I am expecting the score to drop during the basement twist since the manga community got divided at that point. It doesn't, and will never deserve a score of higher than 9. |
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AniMEHLover said: I am expecting the score to drop during the basement twist since the manga community got divided at that point. It doesn't, and will never deserve a score of higher than 9. That is another thing, I heard the manga drops in quality sharply toward the end from a few people I'm friends with who loved the manga. No spoilios here though for the sake of anime viewers. |
ABDoesThings said: Sasori_Nagashi said: It's only like twelve episodes. Do the math, 25x12 = 300 minutes which is about five hours. You might as well watch the season instead of wasting days debating whether you should watch it or not. OP asked a question because he's curious if he should invest time into the second season and wants to have a nice, civil discussion on the matter rather than people sperging out and acting like he's somehow disparaging the series or pushing others to dislike it. I enjoy discussion, this is pleasant to me, at least when people keep it civil and don't act like spergs like a few have. Plus I can do this while playing a game, cooking a meal ETC, it requires minimal attention, whereas I like to dedicate my full attention to an anime when I'm watching it to make sure I don't miss anything. |
nanidatosama97 said: Sasori_Nagashi said: That is another thing, I heard the manga drops in quality sharply toward the end from a few people I'm friends with who loved the manga. No spoilios here though for the sake of anime viewers. A lot of those people who dropped during the reveal didnt give the story change a chance, lol. I gave it a chance. It still didnt work. But I heard that.... |
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| Never understood it either, maybe it has to do with novelty/timing I guess? Anyway I dropped it the first time I tried it, couldn't get past episode 3 after the potato-girl moment which looked pretty stupid, and the art I found it terrible, almost no consistency among characters-backgrounds, but I may give it another chance. |
Arkab said: Never understood it either, maybe it has to do with novelty/timing I guess? Anyway I dropped it the first time I tried it, couldn't get past episode 3 after the potato-girl moment which looked pretty stupid, and the art I found it terrible, almost no consistency among characters-backgrounds, but I may give it another chance. its because you have a superior taste. |
| You sound like some Elitist, Oh wait.... You're one. |
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| Hey OP! It's good to see people staying off the egde and wanting to have a civil discussion :) About your question, season 2 improves a lot over season 1. Season 2 has better pacing and is majorly focused on horror/mystery. Season 3 has a major tonal shift and has a lot of character development, and is also focused on mystery. Season 1 was more focused on action and worldbuilding while actual characterization starts from season 2. The arcs in season 1 are the least best written arcs in AoT objectively even according to the reddit aot community. Season 4 would have a major tonal shift, where AoT becomes a seinenish manga although it's a point where the community largely separates, ie either you would like or you would hate the direction. And yeah, it becomes much complex with moral grey, ideologies, parallels to a major event in our history (the event is a spoiler) |
Funseco said: Arkab said: Never understood it either, maybe it has to do with novelty/timing I guess? Anyway I dropped it the first time I tried it, couldn't get past episode 3 after the potato-girl moment which looked pretty stupid, and the art I found it terrible, almost no consistency among characters-backgrounds, but I may give it another chance. its because you have a superior taste. ur sarcasm just gets boosted beautifully by that horse avatar, what manga is that from? its hilarious |
Sasori_Nagashi said: Can someone explain the massive hype behind this series to me? I watched the first season and I really just couldn't get into it at all. The characters came across as super bland to me, we are thrust almost immediately into these scenes we should feel bad about without any real character building so it's like "wow some people I knew nothing at all about and am totally indifferent about died, I feel nothing." The story was predictable at almost every turn in the first season, there isn't much investigation into world lore in the first season either, from memory. It just felt like they were trying to feels-bait me at most times and failing hard because they didn't even do the groundwork to make it successful. I dunno, is it just a slow-starter or something? I'm not going to bother to explain it to you, because the show was clearly nothing for you. If you didn't like it/did not think it was THAT special, then so be it. It's up to you to get something out of it or not. HOWEVER, that opinion gives me a sour taste concerning your avatar pircture. I like JoJo, sometimes more, sometimes less. But Part 1 was exactly that what your're accusing SnK Season 1 for: A boring, (below) average show with bland characters. So, the next time you're opening another thread that the MAL community has seen thousand of times before, please, oh please consider that some people might just like something you don't. And in SnK's case, just like JoJo's, the nay sayers are the clear, but loud minority. |
ArrRtiApr 29, 2019 7:07 AM
Sasori_Nagashi said: No. All seasons are different from each other. First one is frenetic with plot twist and subtle characterization. Second season is more of a mysterie of who is and isn't a titan with a bunge of characterization. Third season (part 1) is a political drama with crazy reveals midway through it. Part 2 is an all out war to retake the walls with more crazy reveals. Season 4 is... well... spoiler of course.Daphi said: if you didn't enjoy the first season forget watching it, it builds up its mysteries a long time people like different things there is a lot of character development it just shows in subtle actions of characters and it takes time to build up the show is everything, except predictable.. but if you didn't enjoy it initially and don't feel compelled to watch it, just don't do it really i don't like gintama/mob and jojos, and don't get why people hype those shows either and think all the characters in those shows are bland so yeah, people have different taste, and thats basically it So you think I wouldn't like the way the storytelling is formatted if I wasn't a fan of the first season? Like it carries on the same way throughout the entire series? Fair enough, thanks for the the input. The show itself doesn't stick to a unique storytelling type and the characters change a lot through out the seasons. What I like more on this show is when the damage is done, it's done. There's no going back. There's no miraculous potion or a power up. It always moves forward. |
azertz99Apr 29, 2019 7:14 AM
| There is nothing really hype about this arc expect for answers and battles, the next arc is a lot better in my opinion which is definitely hype worthy but I'm excited to see how they will adapt it. |
Ri22rkApr 29, 2019 7:58 AM
animehater98 said: Judging by your anime ratings, your love BnHA, on the other hand I think BnHA is mediocre and predictable. Other people will will explain it to you, why they think it's good but you will say, no, no it isn't. We all lived our lives differently, we all experienced different difficult situations hence different types of entertainments may 'ressonate' more with certain individuals compared to others. Having a taste and what you like and dislike is a good thing not a bad thing, ability to think differently is what makes us humans and not sheeps. I've actually been re-thinking my evaluation of BnHA. I think I let the good fight choreography and good sound design get the better of me when rating it and let myself ignore some of it's more glaring flaws. |
ArrRti said: Sasori_Nagashi said: Can someone explain the massive hype behind this series to me? I watched the first season and I really just couldn't get into it at all. The characters came across as super bland to me, we are thrust almost immediately into these scenes we should feel bad about without any real character building so it's like "wow some people I knew nothing at all about and am totally indifferent about died, I feel nothing." The story was predictable at almost every turn in the first season, there isn't much investigation into world lore in the first season either, from memory. It just felt like they were trying to feels-bait me at most times and failing hard because they didn't even do the groundwork to make it successful. I dunno, is it just a slow-starter or something? I'm not going to bother to explain it to you, because the show was clearly nothing for you. If you didn't like it/did not think it was THAT special, then so be it. It's up to you to get something out of it or not. HOWEVER, that opinion gives me a sour taste concerning your avatar pircture. I like JoJo, sometimes more, sometimes less. But Part 1 was exactly that what your're accusing SnK Season 1 for: A boring, (below) average show with bland characters. So, the next time you're opening another thread that the MAL community has seen thousand of times before, please, oh please consider that some people might just like something you don't. And in SnK's case, just like JoJo's, the nay sayers are the clear, but loud minority. Yep, Jojo part one was fairly weak and was a bit boring to get through but I feel other parts made getting through it worth it, hence why I decided to ask people who love this series if I would find a similar experience with it. |
| @BestBoiEren that has nothing to do with this thead though, the same thing can also be applied to you for liking fairy tail and sao which are really average at best. |
Ricochet2000 said: Dude you have superior taste than the majority then why are you asking penny humans like us what to watch and not.Maybe the characters in Dragon ball and hellsing have more depth and groundbreaking plot Your sperg fit that someone dare question your beloved series aside, the characterization in Dragon Ball is some of the weakest in anime. It largely gets by with fans (and admittedly myself) for the nostalgia factor of it being some of the first anime available on mainstream outlets when we were younger. |
Sasori_Nagashi said: Can someone explain the massive hype behind this series to me? I watched the first season and I really just couldn't get into it at all. The characters came across as super bland to me, we are thrust almost immediately into these scenes we should feel bad about without any real character building so it's like "wow some people I knew nothing at all about and am totally indifferent about died, I feel nothing." The story was predictable at almost every turn in the first season, there isn't much investigation into world lore in the first season either, from memory. It just felt like they were trying to feels-bait me at most times and failing hard because they didn't even do the groundwork to make it successful. I dunno, is it just a slow-starter or something? The reason you made this thread is probably because you think the score is too high. And you should probably realize that the score isn't this high purely because of hype. Season 1 and Season 2 were really hyped, but the score never reached these heights. Each season has just been improving the quality and writing of the series and people who have stuck with it are starting to see that now. The series may not be for you and that's fine. I just feel like initially when AOT came out, people were just not giving it a fair chance because of all the hype. Now 6 years later and 2 seasons later, it is no longer just a hype series, but one with excellent storytelling and fantastic writing. |
| @Sasori_Nagashi Fair analysis about JoJo, apply the same for SnK and see for yourself because no one can give a definite answer for that, we can't look into your mind. |
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