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| I enjoyed the previous episodes, but this.. wtf is this? That girl acts like a psycho and no one cares, and not only that but she also plays the victim the next minute, they give us a muh "sad mood" and we're supposed to feel sory for her or what? I wished someone could just slap her. God, this reminds me why I dislike shoujo, I thought this was going to be an exception because it started really well, but now I'm pissed. I feel sorry for Kyou atm, his surroundings in general are so oppressive it's not surprising he acts like that. This is very sad, actually. Now could some manga reader please spoil me if Kagura ends up with someone, and if yes - with who? Does she appear often? Because I don't know if I should continue this or not. |
fuyukiApr 28, 2019 9:26 PM
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fuyuki said: I enjoyed the previous episodes, but this.. wtf is this? That girl acts like a psycho and no one cares, and not only that but she also plays the victim the next minute, they give us a muh "sad mood" and we're supposed to feel sory for her or what? I wished someone could just slap her. God, this reminds me why I dislike shoujo, I thought this was going to be an exception because it started really well, but now I'm pissed. I feel sorry for Kyou atm, his surroundings in general are so oppressive it's not surprising he acts like that. This is very sad, actually. Now could some manga reader please spoil me if Kagura ends up with someone, and if yes - with who? Does she appear often? Because I don't know if I should continue this or not. |
Ruise said: Okay, that's good to hear. I guess I'll continue watching this, thanks.fuyuki said: I enjoyed the previous episodes, but this.. wtf is this? That girl acts like a psycho and no one cares, and not only that but she also plays the victim the next minute, they give us a muh "sad mood" and we're supposed to feel sory for her or what? I wished someone could just slap her. God, this reminds me why I dislike shoujo, I thought this was going to be an exception because it started really well, but now I'm pissed. I feel sorry for Kyou atm, his surroundings in general are so oppressive it's not surprising he acts like that. This is very sad, actually. Now could some manga reader please spoil me if Kagura ends up with someone, and if yes - with who? Does she appear often? Because I don't know if I should continue this or not. |
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| I can't believe how sweet Tooru is, I just want to hug her! I feel sorry for Shigure, how many times has he had to repair a hole somewhere in his house? Kagura Is a very interesting character, can't wait to see more of her! |
Oni_Zokuchou said: My god, I already hate Kagura. Abusive characters are so lame. Poor Cat. Seeing a lot of people saying stuff like “aw she’s violent but her love is pure!” Ex-fucking-cuse me? The girl needs a therapist/a visit to the psyc ward, and a lesson on how not to be a terrible human being and how to express affection. But it’s okay right, because violent bipolar-like outbursts of assault are fine when it’s a cute girl doing it. ...Right? You would have a point if Kagura's behaviour wasn't supposed to be comedic. The juxtaposition between this seemingly sweet and adorable girl and the extremely violent outbursts she is capable of is clearly not to be taken seriously. |
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JokerVentura said: Isn't it a blessing to have some care about you? When they're an obsessive violent sociopath..........gonna go with no. Poor Souma. Lol right? Touru is insane. Cant say I'm a fan of this new character, I'm glad the extreme over the top violent tsundere girl trope has died down in recent years. |
ChromephoneApr 29, 2019 11:14 AM
ggultra2764 said: Looks like this was mostly the same as episode 4 from the 2001 anime in that chapter 5's adapted, while adding in additional anime-only material to pad out the runtime of the episode. -When Kagura attacks Kyo after he silences her from revealing anything further about his "true form", Kagura placed him in an armbar in the manga instead of uppercutting him. -Pretty much, all scenes involving cooking and shopping focused around Kagura's jealousy of Tohru is anime-only. -Due to the additional anime-only material, there is a removed manga scene showing Shigure telling Kagura to stay in a bedroom for the night to keep her from wrecking any more of his house. Some dialogue from the scene with Kagura remarking that Shigure doesn't understand a girl's feelings and Shigure acknowledging that he understands the feeling of being jealous is carried over into one of the anime-only scenes with Kagura fleeing Shigure's house after one of her outbursts against Kyo led her to wreck the dinner table she prepared. -The flashback coming from Kagura explaining how she met Kyo as a child is actually from chapter 68 of the manga. -When Tohru climbed up to the roof of Shigure's house to see Kyo, she was in pajamas in the manga instead of her normal clothes. -Before leaving Shigure's house, there is an added anime scene with Kyo blocking one of Kagura's punches during another of her outbursts before Kagura follow-ups with an elbow to the gut. -The anime shows up Kagura's skirt slightly as she waves good bye to Tohru and the Sohma boys, which isn't shown in the manga. -This episode marks the anime debut of Tohru, Kyo, and Yuki's homeroom teacher, Mayuko Shiraki, who has a somewhat more active role in later manga chapters. She appears in place of a male teacher (from the manga) to inform Tohru of the phone call from her grandfather. Wow, thank you so much for this analysis! |
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Shymander said: Everyone here going on about Kagura, but Yuki's zoom-and-charm was honestly the funniest moment of the series so far for me:  As expected from such a handsome guy, that he even was the first love of another guy :D |
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| I am surprised how good the adaptation has been so far. I still miss the OST and amazing VAs from the original one but this quickly grew on me. Enjoy it while the comedy lasts. :) Just gonna give away a slight spoiler. Make sure to watch beyond season 1. You'll realize why it is widely regarded as a timeless manga. |
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| another violent girl.. I really find them annoying.. I forgot about her, I watched old version before but I forgot the boar, I thought she's shy and cute.. she's so annoying! Every episodes, I love Yuki!!! I really ship him with Tohru huhu |
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| Kagura is one of the least favourites, I hate the trope of the animal girl getting a free past to beat the guy and there be no consequences, but I'm looking forward to the following Zodiac members to come in. |
LuroonMay 4, 2019 3:55 AM
Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso is shit |
| Ugh. Least favorite episode so far. I've managed to forget how obnoxious Kagura was and unfortunately this remake lacks some of the derpy sense of humor that would perhaps make her outrageous behavior seem a bit more comedic and palatable. Ohwels. |
| These faces are so cute that I might just leave them here (#`Д´)´∀`)･ω･) ﾟДﾟ)ﾟ∀ﾟ)･∀･)￣ｰ￣)´_ゝ`) |
stand said: It's not a generalization, it's my experience with shoujo so far, and don't worry about my viewpoint - I'm not closed off, that's why I'm here, in a shoujo anime discussion subforum.fuyuki said: God, this reminds me why I dislike shoujo, I thought this was going to be an exception because it started really well, but now I'm pissed. This is quite a sad generalization towards shoujo I hope you widen your viewpoint one day. |
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| Tohru said "right-handed jab" but used her left fist. |
 She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did! |
| Kagura is savage! XD Good episode! |
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| Yessssssssssssss waited for the crazy taiga comeback Melody2222 said: Yuki and the mail man... Im dead. x) And this! |
yoongiddaengs said: Lain666 said: I am watching this is out of curiosity. To see what I will like and dislike after so many years. This episode it was so obvious that this is based on old manga with things other than that they don't have smartphones with comments like: "Marriage is woman's greatest dream" - Eh? Really? Kyo thinking that martial arts must be an uninteresting topic to a woman. - Rather sexist by today's standards. Come to think there are clear traditional gender roles in this story. Woman are doing cooking and cleaning and Kagura even learnt to cook for a guy. This is really food for thought; you'd be surprised that there are still a significant portion of the Japanese population that think like this. I know. However, the portion that is reading shoujo manga seems to have moved on. Just compare Tooru to heroines from shoujo manga stories which are popular now like Shirayuki and Yona. Fruits Basket was not revolutionary in the late 90s and the early two-thousands, so it feels now dated in terms of mindset unlike stuff like Princess Tutu and Utena, which were revolutionary back then. |
Lain666May 1, 2019 12:58 AM
| "The moment one sits down to think, one becomes all nose, or all forehead, or something horrid. Look at the successful men in any of the learned professions. How perfectly hideous they are! Except, of course, in the Church. But then in the Church they don't think. A bishop keeps on saying at the age of eighty what he was told to say when he was a boy of eighteen, and as a natural consequence he always looks absolutely delightful." |
| Kagura the Boar xD this ep was pretty funny I love how she is so in love with the CAT xD |
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| nice episode - the moment with the mailman was hilarious XD didn't like Kagura very much, but oh well |
| The rooftop scene is sweet. |
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| i dont like kagura's personality but she gave me a good laugh, especially with the mail man |
| Lol Kagura is savage when we talk about Kyo. This seems promicing |
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| Tohru spitting a lot of facts in this episode |
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felipeliborio said: This Kagura is soooooo anoying. She made the episode hard to watch. This!!!!! You're right. |
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| Ew, that girl is SO abusive. Didn’t like this episode. |
Chelle said: Kagura is probably my least favorite of all the Soumas. I've just never cared for her character at all. *sigh* I guess I'm going to be in the minority. Definitely not, as you can see from all the replies in the thread. Positive? Kagura is voiced by the wonderful KugiRie? Negative? ...just Kagura in general. Kagura was always one of my least favorite Fruits Basket characters. Annoying character. Terrible and tired trope that is, thankfully, all but gone nowadays in anime. Kagura has not aged well. |
| I'm all for tsunderes being hit by someone, go Kagura! Every tsundere deserves to be treated like that. The older anime version left a bad overall impression of Kyo but he doesn't seem as bad here, I still prefer Yuki though. |
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GlowingAura said: I honestly think that this was the best episode so far!! We got my girl Kagura, more of Kyou’s personality, and Tohru being as sweet and amazing as ever. Looks like next episode will be about her having to move out, then we’ll be continuing the school festival? I’ll have to reread this part of the manga. Anyway, Kagura’s seiyuu was really spot-on with her role. I’m probably the only one who likes her, as well as all of the other characters (except for Akito lol). There’s been a lot of foreshadowing for Kyou and Yuki’s backstories recently. Maybe it’s just me, but the long disproportioned legs the characters have from far away look really awkward and distracting. It’s weird because in scenes such as on the roof, the proportions for Tohru are perfect. I get that it’s anime and most of the time the character designs are meant to be unique, but when the girls were walking home, Kagura’s dress barely reaches her legs which makes it look a bit too unrealistic. Am I the only one who sees a big difference between these frames? yes! first time i noticed it, tooru was walking with yuki, i guess, and everytime they show them walking like that i keep asking myself where their asses are and those are really weird knees. i like the character designs, most of the characters look better than in the original, but the legs are weird and they would be extremely thin if we take their heights in consideration. |
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| beating the crap out of a guy... sounds like true love! *tears up* just so damn romantic. she even got in the shower. cute! :'] true love guys, true love |
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| Not good as the first three episodes...(I mean first half) but Tohru talking to Kyou-kun on the rooftop was nice! (and Kyou-kun shirtless ofc) I don't like Kagura....she is literally a domestic abuser lol. WTF that ending. |
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| Quite the amusing episode, this! Kagura’s a really sweet girl + an abuser xD, loved the revelation of her abusing side with Tooru’s blank expression! Unlike many others here, I found her character to be fairly enjoyable but I’ve to agree this episode was probably the least entertaining so far. Tooru’s talk with Kyo on the rooftop scene was really nice! And that reveal of her being a boar was pretty cool too, I really have to wonder how Yuki managed to dodge that bullet though xD. Shigure hinted at an unrequited love too, now that’s very curiously amusing! Meanwhile, Tooru blushed in response to Yuki’s “I thought so” so I wonder if there’s something here too. Seems like there’s a shocker up for next episode, can’t wait to see what that’s about! I hope it’s not the death of her grandfather, though the following vague monologue hinted at something else. Does she have to leave the family now or what, I wonder if the mysterious Akito person is behind pulling the strings here. |
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| ohhh, so not all the zodiac are dudes! Color me surprised. Kagura's clingy side is cute but her violent bursts turn me off. It's like she's a tsunderedere. BTW Tohru you punched him with your left arm you buffoon. |
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