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Apr 13, 8:56 AM

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I'm going to make an educated guess and say that this show is about sexuality and the shame associated with it. The boys are ashamed of their "desire", but when they lose it, they become inhuman.
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Apr 13, 9:02 AM

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CatSoul said:
I'm going to make an educated guess and say that this show is about sexuality and the shame associated with it. The boys are ashamed of their "desire", but when they lose it, they become inhuman.


Very good guess, that'll definitely be one of the themes. Desires doesn't only refer to sexuality though, but homosexuality will be touched upon since the two cops are gay and I think there'll be a love triangle between the three boys (Enta definitely likes Kazuki).

I can see that it's also about how social media helps us both connect and isolate us from others, and the modern consumerism society that likes to "package" things which is seen in the Kappazon brand everywhere.
 
Apr 13, 9:16 AM
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Okay! Up to here I arrived. It is one of the most WTF animes !! that I've seen. LOL.
 
Apr 13, 9:40 AM
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Got to pull that desire out of your ass
 
Apr 13, 9:44 AM
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Weird as hell, but I love it. A fucking original show coming to steal the season, let's see if it can keep up the steam.
 
Apr 13, 10:02 AM

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Cast? Stellar
Voice acting? Stellar
Animation? Stellar
OST? Stellar. Want it to be released already
Aestheticism? You've got it
Inventivity? Never-seen-before-factor-well-maybe-in-other-Ikuhara-works? Ubiquitous.

I am an Ikuhara enthusiast and I have to say - I enjoyed this way more than I thought I would. Can't help being as over-the-top when commenting LOL
 
Apr 13, 11:10 AM
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And here I was wondering if Ikuhara was always going to stick to lesbians exclusively.
This is the most excited I've been over a show all year so far. And in a season this devoid of originality, this show shines even brighter.
The topic of connection, and what you're willing to hide ot pretend to acquire or maintain them, even though that will take a part of what makes you who you are has a lot of potential as well.
All of the female characters of this show appear "out of reach" in one way or another as well. I wonder if that is a comment on how pursuing a relationship with a woman is "out of reach" if you're gay, too, and you have to pretend to be something you're not?
Or maybe that's just episode one. (Plus I really don't think the little girl we saw will be romantically pursued).

In any case, I'm so glad it's here and I'll probably rewatch each episode a lot.
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Apr 13, 12:03 PM
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I watched Mawaru Penguindrum and Yuri Kuma Arashi but this is a bit more crazy xD
Very unique and fun to watch.
 
Apr 13, 12:12 PM

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that was epic and weird
 
Apr 13, 12:13 PM

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Hahaha.
Pure trash that proudly accepts it and invites us to go along the trip. Loved it.
 
Apr 13, 1:04 PM

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It's crazy, but I like it :D
 
Apr 13, 1:19 PM

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God bless these visuals. Classic Ikuhara so far. Love him or hate him, there's no in-between.
 
Apr 13, 3:10 PM
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Trying to fill the Ikuhara's Bingo for this first episode
(Warning: There are spoilers to other ikuhara shows on the bingo)



I can say that THIS WAS FREAKING AWESOME FIRST EPISODE. Moterfucking Ikuhara.


I think that this analysis is great. That quote though, alive as you are dead, I think that is going to be a major theme in this show. The way I take it is if you don't have any connections or any meaningful relationships in your life, you might as well just be dead. And to have a meaningful relationship, that means there are no secrets between one another. I'm glad there are other people doing analysis on this show too!
 
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kofmaster said:
Trying to fill the Ikuhara's Bingo for this first episode
(Warning: There are spoilers to other ikuhara shows on the bingo)



I can say that THIS WAS FREAKING AWESOME FIRST EPISODE. Moterfucking Ikuhara.
You can add suffering to that xD
 
Apr 13, 3:43 PM

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I'm all in for Ikuhara's wild ride.
 
Apr 13, 4:11 PM

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Minar-kyun said:
This weird world setting. It reminded me of Mawaru Penguindrum. I wanna slap myself for wanting to skip this show at first lol. Interesting show. Shirikodama? That's funny.


Is the same author than Mawaru.
No wonder the style is so identical. And that unique humour.
 
Apr 13, 6:13 PM
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Ikuhara fans say "ア" means "object petit a" from Lacan's psychoanalysis theory.
https://hilosophia.hatenablog.com/entry/2019/04/12/040243


Then, we can easily understand what Ikuhara wants to say in this series.
"Don't give up on your desire" -Lacan
I don't know about global situations, but philosophy about over-connectedness was trending in Japan. Ikuhara brought anus image from kappa myth and added the psychoanalysis background into it.
Our desire is so easily controlled by the technological environment that we don't know what we really wanted to do. Desire is never free from restraints by some forms of others, but we also never should stop checking our desire function. Only desire leads us to some kind of actions beyond our current status.
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Apr 13, 8:46 PM
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If anyone is wondering why its so weird well its because of Kunihiko Ikuhara

But holy shit, the animation the best this year ( i haven't seen mob psycho 100 2 nor Dororo ), abstract and weird storytelling. I highly recommend watch Asenshi version because better encoding and subtitles are superior than Crunchyroll. I feel if your a Japanese ( I'm not) this probably be more impactful due to subtle signs shown everywhere in the series.

Anyways MAPPA and Lapin Track did an incredible job and seriously underrated. When looking at the top animes this season.
 
Apr 13, 9:27 PM

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Japs and their folklore are fucking weird. Jesus Christ.
 
Apr 13, 9:36 PM

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e_hoba said:

Ikuhara fans say "ア" means "object petit a" from Lacan's psychoanalysis theory.
https://hilosophia.hatenablog.com/entry/2019/04/12/040243


Then, we can easily understand what Ikuhara wants to say in this series.
"Don't give up on your desire" -Lacan
I don't know about global situations, but philosophy about over-connectedness was trending in Japan. Ikuhara brought anus image from kappa myth and added the psychoanalysis background into it.
Our desire is so easily controlled by the technological environment that we don't know what we really wanted to do. Desire is never free from restraints by some forms of others, but we also never should stop checking our desire function. Only desire leads us to some kind of actions beyond our current status.
Ah, someone finally decipher the message. Now I can sleep peacefully.
 
Apr 14, 1:43 AM
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don't really understand the low score because it's so much better than a lot of animes this season. But anyways animation was incredible, but how it was framed was even more impressive. Definitely exciting to keep watching this and feel like this will be the underrated gem this season.
 
Apr 14, 2:13 AM
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Learned of Shirikodama myth from Gegege Kitaro, but this is a whole nother level of insanity. That amazing mappa animation, bizarre directing with tons of symbolism.
...and musical super sentai fight
The consumerism theme from desire seems a not-so-light jab at Amazon boxes. Hope the "Connection" idea won't be hamfisted like princeofstride.
The chopping cucumber reminds me of that heel clamping in yurikumaarashi.
 
Apr 14, 2:59 AM
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don't really understand the low score because it's so much better than a lot of animes this season. But anyways animation was incredible, but how it was framed was even more impressive. Definitely exciting to keep watching this and feel like this will be the underrated gem this season.


chill dude, It's only eps 1 🙏
 
Apr 14, 3:05 AM

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why are people liking this.... though animation was good... butt too much absurdness
 
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why are people liking this.... though animation was good... butt too much absurdness


...Because it's actually good? The animation is good, the concept is very unique and original, many people are fans of the director Ikuhara and we know his surreal style and that his work always delivers. The themes of connections, desire, love, sexuality, social media technology, consumerism are multi-layered and intriguing.
 
Apr 14, 4:30 AM

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Wow.

I'm so ready for this, this is wild and was so fun to watch lmao
 
Apr 14, 4:36 AM
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Man.. its mawaru penguindrum all over again...
 
Apr 14, 5:01 AM
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MOMOpatisierre said:
Nerd_Zone1 said:
don't really understand the low score because it's so much better than a lot of animes this season. But anyways animation was incredible, but how it was framed was even more impressive. Definitely exciting to keep watching this and feel like this will be the underrated gem this season.


chill dude, It's only eps 1 🙏


lol i just surprised i actually like something this season ( currently been watching old anime like Heidi: Girl of the Alps and Nadia and been playing switch games). Also yeah I'm chilled
 
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ibraheem234 said:
why are people liking this.... though animation was good... butt too much absurdness


Sums up Western general norms and majority of Mal users as a whole.

They don't accept anything unique and different , thus Hollywood always produce generic movies that try to play extremely safe.
Many JP studios too, try to produce generic genre (high-school dude go to isekai) storytelling and art-style in fear of audience not favouring it. (Not knowing this is what makes them mediocre to begin with lolz)

Also I expect the story to get dark/ serious in later half. This is exactly like Monogatari series I bet. Foreshadowing, symbolism, and lots of hidden meanings.

PS: Most of the absurdness in the show is base on Japanese mythology.
Most mythologies are absurd/ weird, or even creepy. This is true in almost every religion.
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What the fuck did I just watch?

Only in Japan.
 
Apr 14, 8:17 AM

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gophercg said:
That amazing mappa animation


Funny that you say that cause the entirety of the first episode has been produced at Ikuhara's personal team at Lapintrack.
 
Apr 14, 8:43 AM

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4/5 What a great start !

I wasn't expecting an anal penetration so early in the series though.

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Do you have info who's in the team? Are they new? The page is somewhat empty:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/producer/1828/Lapin_Track

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=13454
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Apr 14, 9:12 AM
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Is so bizarre!!! I love this first episode!
 
Apr 14, 10:59 AM
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holy heck, i totally didn't expect that plot twist!! Can't wait to see the explanation for it!
 
Apr 14, 1:12 PM
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Or maybe that's just episode one. (Plus I really don't think the little girl we saw will be romantically pursued).


It's Kazuki's little brother actually (They don't share the surname tho). Crunchyroll just fucked up the subs lol
 
Apr 14, 2:07 PM
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Ventus_S said:
ibraheem234 said:
why are people liking this.... though animation was good... butt too much absurdness


Sums up Western general norms and majority of Mal users as a whole.

They don't accept anything unique and different , thus Hollywood always produce generic movies that try to play extremely safe.
Many JP studios too, try to produce generic genre (high-school dude go to isekai) storytelling and art-style in fear of audience not favouring it. (Not knowing this is what makes them mediocre to begin with lolz)

Also I expect the story to get dark/ serious in later half. This is exactly like Monogatari series I bet. Foreshadowing, symbolism, and lots of hidden meanings.

PS: Most of the absurdness in the show is base on Japanese mythology.
Most mythologies are absurd/ weird, or even creepy. This is true in almost every religion.


Agreed. Some people are always going to think it's just random weirdness or don't want to "invest" their patience into this kind of show - which is fine, to each their own - but I'm still somewhat shocked it has this low a rating.
Even if that rating only really gets "accurate" of the overall perception a couple weeks into the season, the first impression ratings are mostly driven by hype, anyway.
In Fall, Gridman had like what, a 6.4 after episode 1?

Mika-taicho said:
Natsuaki said:

Or maybe that's just episode one. (Plus I really don't think the little girl we saw will be romantically pursued).


It's Kazuki's little brother actually (They don't share the surname tho). Crunchyroll just fucked up the subs lol


Oh, damn, I must've somehow missed that. That lowers the amount of female characters basically to just one?
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Apr 14, 5:01 PM
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I would have enjoyed this so much more if the main characters weren't children. Not a fan of the pedo vibes tbh


Agreed.
I felt uncomfortable watching this, especially with my family in the same room (at least I had headphones on)


I'm glad at least one person gets what I'm saying, it's really weird that not a lot of people are acknowledging this. Or at least I haven't seen anyone talking about it yet, maybe more will as the season progresses
 
Apr 14, 5:57 PM
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Crazier than Penguindrum, will probably be more convoluted too, but I'm in for the long haul. I know it'll be divisive, but I've seen a handful of other first episodes this season and this is easily the best.
 
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Is Ikuhara ever gonna stop surprising me?
 
Apr 14, 7:41 PM
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gophercg said:
That amazing mappa animation


Funny that you say that cause the entirety of the first episode has been produced at Ikuhara's personal team at Lapintrack.

Still funny indeed. Do you have info who's in the team? Are they new? The page is somewhat empty:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/producer/1828/Lapin_Track
 
Apr 14, 7:56 PM

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so much happened in one episode that i'm a bit confused
 
Apr 14, 9:18 PM

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Wow, been a while since the last time I saw this kind of visuals, Mawaru Penguindrum vibes all over the place (same director, duh), reminds me to the days when I started to watch anime.
 
Apr 15, 1:07 AM

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This was the best and worst anime I've ever seen in 30 minutes. Can't wait to have my mind exploded next week.
 
Apr 15, 4:23 AM
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Anime of the year, I love the first episode beyond the bounds of reason.
 
Apr 15, 7:14 AM
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Where do you watch it
It's on Crunchyroll
 
Apr 15, 8:53 AM

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What the hell... Weird but interesting in some way.
 
Apr 15, 12:54 PM

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WTF?! I mean... WTF?!
WTF did I just watch?!
I initially thought 1GB per episode was too much, and I was gonna delete it after watching. Well, nope.
 
Apr 15, 6:26 PM
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I can't not love Ikuhara; he's easily my favorite anime director just on the merit of how outlandish his imagery is. Seems Sarazanmai is gonna be the most outlandish one yet. So hyped
 
Apr 15, 7:19 PM

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"I am confusion!"

Never has butt play been so surreal.
 
Apr 15, 11:10 PM
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Rei366 said:
4/5 What a great start !

I wasn't expecting an anal penetration so early in the series though.

gophercg said:
Do you have info who's in the team? Are they new? The page is somewhat empty:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/producer/1828/Lapin_Track

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=13454

Nice. Mal should at least add YKA if that's accurate. On ann it doesn't state which Sarazanmai episodes they work on yet.
 
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