| With so many "masterpieces" nowadays is very hard to decide what to watch...As a famous man once said: "Can I copy your homework? Yeah just be sure to change it a bit ...". You know I don't need to remind you of those formula used for Isekai or Harem Genre or the shounen. Even those pretentious elitits shows use this formula... Well the main problem ain't this but the execution and characters. Many fail to deliever what they could have done (potential) and turn into a mess or the popular saying "pile of shit". Oh excuse me I wanted to say diversity... Do I need to mention that in rom-com the main male character looks all the same and his dumbness and level of density never ceases to amaze us. While most of the female lead characters with a strong willed personality has declined over the years and rarely we see nowadays something to choose from. Fanservice is always good I myself like gorgeous women in their underwear but school-grade kids (loli) a big no thank you. In conclusion I enjoy like 2, 3 good shows per season but that's all that their is for the moment. I don't wanna talk about the fanbase because I had my own experiences with them. Not pleasent ones some of them. If I had to say the elitist circle jerking is the worst. Anyways let's hear your thoughts and what you expect for the more (anime) that is coming in the future? |
| Lol downhill what? If anything the past year has been an uphill in terms of enjoyment. But I mean in terms of repetitiveness then maybe you could say I guess. I mean most stuff out there is just a copy of something else in one way or another. If this repetitiveness didn't sell well, then yeah you could say it'd be going downhill |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| new anime isn't really largely different from old anime so if you still had hope 15 years ago you can still have hope now to be honest with you |
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| I agree with female lead characters part. It is always enjoyable to watch a badass female lead than just for panty shots. But I don't think modern anime is going downhill. It is same as before. |
 "All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost." |
| Anime is all trash anyways, manga is the superior medium. |
| Avoiding the obvious issues of over-generalizations. You still say you enjoy 2-3 shows per season. So the obvious question is, what would you consider going uphill? Like how many shows have to personally appease you per season before you consider it going in a positive direction? As a follow up has there been any past season you can say definitively hit that mark? Because in order for it to be going downhill there obviously has to be a high point and specifically a single season you can point to as that high point. Granted I've slightly fallen out of seasonal anime due to personal time constraints I think I would still enjoy the recent seasons that I glanced over as much as I would my peak seasonal watching of 30ish shows. Ie. I tend to enjoy isekai series and fantasy series in general so I don't mind that direction, I obviously have a personal preference for action shounen so those are always welcome, as long as there's comedy coming out I'll always have something to casually go back to each season. |
GamerDLMMar 22, 2019 2:53 PM
| Yep, another "Is anime dying?" thread. |
| All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
| Nah.. i dont thing modern anime is going to downhill as long that repetitiveness still sold nicely. At least for next five years for sure |
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| Maybe there aren't many shows that interest you because not everything is made to please one specific person. I mean there's only 5 shows next season I'm interested in and 3 are sequels. I'm not complaining about it, I'll take what I can get. |
| Waifus are what keep the world in orbit. |
 It’s okay to look back at the past, just don’t stare too long |
| I'd say that if you claim to enjoy only 2-3 shows per season it sounds harsh but how many seasonals do you usually watch? Like 5? Because it's a big difference if you pick 5 than if you pick, say, 20 and only enjoy 2-3 of them. |
| Does this thread really need to be made every other week? |
 What's the difference? |
Daemon said: Does this thread really need to be made every other week? Oh well, here we go again. I think I understand now, why lots of young anime fans don't like older anime. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1766153&show=0 Should newer anime fans be required to watch the old classics, or does it not matter anymore? https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1764304&show= anyone else is not happy about the "current" state of anime community? https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1766590 Being objective about anime, old can be as good as new. They are equals but different. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1767174&show=0 |
| I swear I see this kind of threads everyday xD I don't think it's going downhill , There were shit shows in the past , and there are shit shows today too :v I guess there are more shows produced now than before so there are a lot of mediocre ones , but the good ones are still there. |
| "In this world, wherever there is light – there are also shadows. As long as the concept of winners exists, there must also be losers. The selfish desire of wanting to maintain peace causes wars, and hatred is born to protect love." -Madara Uchiha  |
| Let me tell you my perspective on the matter, as I don't think a lot of people think this debate through... I think a lot of people have a feeling that the 90s had overall better quality anime, which I'm not disproving, but I think a massive amount of people tend to only remember the good shows, and not mention any of the awful or mediocre shows that aired in that time as well. I think we need to think of the 10s like we're in the year 2030. We won't remember a show like GATE or Ranpo Kitan, but we will remember shows like Mob Psycho 100, Steins;Gate and Dororo. We as fans will compare what we will remember, which is usually only the good, and never the mediocre or the bad. If we are still fans in the year 2030, we will look back at this era of anime in the same way we look back at the 90s right now. So I don't really think anything THAT major has happened, we just forgot. |
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kokuborou said: It's not, but I have no clue what your value system is by which you decide to put "hope" in cartoons.Is modern anime going to a downhill? Is there any hope left? kokuborou said: But...they do change it a bit every time. Every one of them actually turns out to be different as long as you don't simply sweep stuff under a draw-conclusions-about-the-entire-genre-being-the-same rug.With so many "masterpieces" nowadays is very hard to decide what to watch...As a famous man once said: "Can I copy your homework? Yeah just be sure to change it a bit ...". You know I don't need to remind you of those formula used for Isekai or Harem Genre or the shounen. Even those pretentious elitits shows use this formula... kokuborou said: I mean no offense, but frankly, your post just seems to ramble on without much of a clear point -- or rather, you address a bunch of different things, but it's not clear which one actually is your point, aside from your general feeling of dissatisfaction with your experience being an anime fan.In conclusion I enjoy like 2, 3 good shows per season but that's all that their is for the moment. I don't wanna talk about the fanbase because I had my own experiences with them. Not pleasent ones some of them. If I had to say the elitist circle jerking is the worst. Anyways let's hear your thoughts and what you expect for the more (anime) that is coming in the future? Anyhow, I personally expect there to just be more change in the future, as fads and the popularity of various genres comes and goes. The aesthetic styles of the animation themselves will likely also change. And it'll be most interesting to see how our generation -- us folks who grew up with anime as a mass medium starting in our childhoods -- will end up. Both as fans, and in some cases, as producers. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| 1 - If enjoyable means really great shows that you love, well yeah, it's been like that since the begining for me. 2 - Every season has 2 - 5 great shows, the rest pretty forgettable. That've been the case since always, no news there. 3 - I don't think that the industry is dying, but I don't see much improvement either. |
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Mythologically said:  You've legit made 3 cancer "old anime better >:(" threads in the past two days. Are u alright there buddy do u need someone to talk to lmao Tommorow is another day! Look forward to more posts! |
Gorochu said: Daemon said: Does this thread really need to be made every other week? Oh well, here we go again. I think I understand now, why lots of young anime fans don't like older anime. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1766153&show=0 Should newer anime fans be required to watch the old classics, or does it not matter anymore? https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1764304&show= anyone else is not happy about the "current" state of anime community? https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1766590 Being objective about anime, old can be as good as new. They are equals but different. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1767174&show=0 I like that other people made threads like this! It's always good to have diversity! |
| It's just that more and more is being produced - with anime getting more popular. Means there is more trash and the good stuff is harder to find. But with all the tons of romance shit every now and then there is some good stuff which doesn't feel like a prolonged endless shoujo or a typical otaku-shounen romance. (Hidden gem just recently: Hi(gh) Score Girl.) Same for other genre. Same (at least for me) for other western non-animated productions. I hate most of the "hollywood" movies or US series. (But there also are super great ones.) |
Pylia said:  As long as there is a new Precure, anime won't go downhill. More seriously, creativity is based on reinventing the already existing, so blaming creators for taking inspiration from the preexisted should already be taken with a grain of salt. Also, anime is an art form that can't sustain itself on a purely artistic level it also has to serve as a product for its consumer, and therefore the production is demanded by what the consumer wants, and only secondary by the artist's vision, in cases. That's why we shouldn't automatically blame "anime" or the producers/ creators but especially us as fans/ consumers/ financers for the lack of vision and the number of reoccurring series, first and foremost. If we have an issue with the type/variety of anime made, then finally try to support people you consider to be visionary, instead. I did that. Since I bought most of my favorites shows. I don't know how others perceive this but for me if a show is bad it ain't worth spending my money on it. But opinions are another thing. There are free and anyone can say what is on their mind as long as they don't break the limit of goodbehaviour. |
| The funny thing is that OP liking 2-3 shows each season is still more than a lot of people like each season. Feels like a luxury problem. But yeah OP obviously wants to bombard this forum with repetitive threads that have little to no point and even less arguments. The sad thing is that one user is all it needs for everyone else to start thinking 'man these old anime fans are really obnoxious, there's a thread like this every day it feels like'. But it's really just one obnoxious guy and he doesn't even dislike modern anime if he still enjoys 3 per season, he just seems to enjoy playing into the stereotype and stirring up shit. Not that it matters. I know people will see these threads and start piling up their prejudices against old anime fans again. Heck, I wouldn't even be surprised if OP was actually a newfag, just trolling to give old anime fans a bad reputation. Because he's certainly not accomplishing anything positive for us. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Is modern anime going to a downhill? Yes Is there any hope left? No |
Pullman said: The funny thing is that OP liking 2-3 shows each season is still more than a lot of people like each season. Feels like a luxury problem. But yeah OP obviously wants to bombard this forum with repetitive threads that have little to no point and even less arguments. The sad thing is that one user is all it needs for everyone else to start thinking 'man these old anime fans are really obnoxious, there's a thread like this every day it feels like'. But it's really just one obnoxious guy and he doesn't even dislike modern anime if he still enjoys 3 per season, he just seems to enjoy playing into the stereotype and stirring up shit. Not that it matters. I know people will see these threads and start piling up their prejudices against old anime fans again. Heck, I wouldn't even be surprised if OP was actually a newfag, just trolling to give old anime fans a bad reputation. Because he's certainly not accomplishing anything positive for us. I don't care about reputation on a social media platform. It's not I can live my daily life in peace if x or y says bad things...This thread is more enjoyable than the current season. I think I am trolling...or not...anyways I like opinions so feel free to say more! |
| With the announcement of Re zero 2 everything goes uphill like it did never before \o/ |
In conclusion I enjoy like 2, 3 good shows per season but that's all that their is for the moment. I dunno why but the "90% garbage/10% good" quote I saw somewhere really applies here. Every season follows the same formula of having a mix of good and bad shows (yes there will be seasons with more good/bad shows than the other). |
Least degenerate visual novel enjoyer.  |
| Is this a shit post?? Serious question |
| It's one o Classy_Cassy said: Is this a shit post?? Serious question It's one of those I don't like other's opinions posts so can we report it? Satisfied? |
petran79 said: Pullman said: But yeah OP obviously wants to bombard this forum with repetitive threads that have little to no point and even less arguments. The sad thing is that one user is all it needs for everyone else to start thinking 'man these old anime fans are really obnoxious, there's a thread like this every day it feels like'. But it's really just one obnoxious guy and he doesn't even dislike modern anime if he still enjoys 3 per season, he just seems to enjoy playing into the stereotype and stirring up shit. Not that it matters. I know people will see these threads and start piling up their prejudices against old anime fans again. Heck, I wouldn't even be surprised if OP was actually a newfag, just trolling to give old anime fans a bad reputation. Because he's certainly not accomplishing anything positive for us. Just to clarify, by old anime fans you mean "old" anime fans or "old anime" fans? I mean the latter. It's just always unpleasant to see when someone only talks positive about old anime in the context of shitting on new ones. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| I feel like the general animation style has lost some of the 'soul' certain older shows have. Also anime tends to get more repetitive, since there is already so much content, it's hard to stay original. These are the downsides I feel there are. Don't know if anime is going downhill as a whole. There are still shows around with high and low quality. And even that is subjective. |
TaloraelMar 23, 2019 8:44 AM
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kokuborou said: It's one o Classy_Cassy said: Is this a shit post?? Serious question It's one of those I don't like other's opinions posts so can we report it? Satisfied? Ah, it’s one of those replies “I feel offended by you so let’s assume you’re just a hater” Satisfied? |
| old good new bad upgeraldos to the left |
| *I used to be cringe, nowadays I’m even cringier* 😎 |
| Anime has been going downhill since 2010 my dude. |
| Obligatory "Current gen sucks" thread. |
JCTheKing said: Anime has been going downhill since 2010 my dude. I have no idea what does pre-2010 anime have more than post-2010 anime. There are great anime in both side. |
| Someone clearly has not read the wisdom contained in my signature. End your miserable state of ignorance and do so. |
 This glorious signature image was created by @Mayumi! I am the Arbiter of Absolute Truth, and here is my wisdom: "Anime was always influenced by the West. This is not news. Shoujo is the superior genre primarily aimed at young people. Harem/isekai are lazy genres that refuse any meaningful innovation. There is no 'Golden Age.' There will always be top-shelf anime. You should be watching Carole & Tuesday." |
Hrybami said: JCTheKing said: Anime has been going downhill since 2010 my dude. I have no idea what does pre-2010 anime have more than post-2010 anime. There are great anime in both side. Hrybami said: JCTheKing said: Anime has been going downhill since 2010 my dude. I have no idea what does pre-2010 anime have more than post-2010 anime. There are great anime in both side. There's much more trash anime nowadays compared to pre-2010. Most of the popular anime nowadays are complete fucking garbage compared to the popular anime pre-2010. The only thing that has improved is animation. The art style in these newer anime are generic looking, and most of them are all low quality compared to the classics. |
| There have been tons of threads like this one and the answer is always the same.. NO!!!! Anime hasn't changed a bit in the last years. You might've just gotten bored of anime as a medium thus you think its going downhill overall. If you want to revive your love for anime just take a break for a week or two. There are as many good anime now than in the 2000's just that now its harder to find because there are tons of shows coming out. For example, Winter 2009 and 2019 respectively had 4 and 5 Anime with a rating of 8.XX coming out. The difference is that Winter 2009 had just 27 TV shows while Winter 2019 had 43 making it harder to differenciate the good ones from the cashgrabs. |
GokaiKingMar 23, 2019 3:30 PM
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Pylia said: Zelkiiro said: Someone clearly has not read the wisdom contained in my signature. End your miserable state of ignorance and do so. I approve of everything stated in your signature "wisdom." The pathway to enlightenment has guided you well. |
This glorious signature image was created by @Mayumi! I am the Arbiter of Absolute Truth, and here is my wisdom: "Anime was always influenced by the West. This is not news. Shoujo is the superior genre primarily aimed at young people. Harem/isekai are lazy genres that refuse any meaningful innovation. There is no 'Golden Age.' There will always be top-shelf anime. You should be watching Carole & Tuesday." |
The part I personally agree the most with is "There is no 'Golden Age.' There is always top-shelf anime.". The rest is a mixed bag. |
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Aceofcard said: Because too many wish fulfillment or comfort fantasy anime like rising of the shield hero and lack creativity. If you're idea of wish fulfilment is being framed of rape and hated by everyone u must have got it really hard in life. I'm sorry for u pal. OT: Looking at threads like this I'd say the only thing hopeless here is the mal ad. |
| no, anime is not going downhill and yes, there's hope left |
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