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Recently people started hating on all isekai. It used to be one of the most popular genres a few years ago.
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Mar 5, 2019 8:19 AM
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Nobody hates all Isekai

Its just boring to watch the same story multiple times with slight changes
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Alice_Synthesis said:
Recently people started hating on all isekai. It used to be one of the most popular genres a few years ago.
It's still a popular genre.
Basically there is too much of it. And almost everything is cliché at this point.

『 The truth has power because it’s the truth.
And because it is the truth, that makes it just.
It’s persuasive, isn’t it? Don’t you want truth like that? 』

Mar 5, 2019 8:21 AM
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Humbby said:
Nobody hates all Isekai

Its just boring to watch the same story multiple times with slight changes
Kuraya said:
Alice_Synthesis said:
Recently people started hating on all isekai. It used to be one of the most popular genres a few years ago.
It's still a popular genre.
Basically there is too much of it. And almost everything is cliché at this point.


So an original isekai would be no problem?
Mar 5, 2019 8:22 AM
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I officially hate people who keep making useless isekai threads as of now.
Mar 5, 2019 8:24 AM
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Alice_Synthesis said:
Humbby said:
Nobody hates all Isekai

Its just boring to watch the same story multiple times with slight changes
Kuraya said:
It's still a popular genre.
Basically there is too much of it. And almost everything is cliché at this point.


So an original isekai would be no problem?
No, all the originality is dispelled by being isekai
Btw I'm actually an isekai fan

『 The truth has power because it’s the truth.
And because it is the truth, that makes it just.
It’s persuasive, isn’t it? Don’t you want truth like that? 』

Mar 5, 2019 8:29 AM
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I don't dislike them per se. The concept is great, but the execution on the other hand leaves more than often something to be desired.

For starters, it would be great if we would get something more ambitious, multiple cour long and in battle shounen fashion with large scale worldbuilding.
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Kuraya said:
Alice_Synthesis said:


So an original isekai would be no problem?
No, all the originality is dispelled by being isekai
Btw I'm actually an isekai fan


I believe in the future isekai authors!
Mar 5, 2019 8:30 AM
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because they're all unoriginal, boring, and cliche garbage.

i haven't watched one and I never will
Mar 5, 2019 8:35 AM

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thatrpgdude said:
because they're all unoriginal, boring, and cliche garbage.

i haven't watched one and I never will


Objection! You can never know if they are any of the things you have listed without watching them.
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I officially hate people who keep making useless isekai threads as of now.


This thread came from another World.
Mar 5, 2019 8:38 AM

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I don't mind them at all if they can find their element of uniqueness.



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Mar 5, 2019 8:43 AM

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Alice_Synthesis said:
Kuraya said:
No, all the originality is dispelled by being isekai
Btw I'm actually an isekai fan


I believe in the future isekai authors!
Alright, you do that. Meanwhile tell me why you like isekai

『 The truth has power because it’s the truth.
And because it is the truth, that makes it just.
It’s persuasive, isn’t it? Don’t you want truth like that? 』

Mar 5, 2019 8:54 AM

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Kuraya said:
Alice_Synthesis said:


I believe in the future isekai authors!
Alright, you do that. Meanwhile tell me why you like isekai


I like most of the animes i have seen. Why i like isekai? A different World with unique features is interesting for me i guess. That's what isekai is right, a slice of life character warping to a fantasy World. The idea of a character going to a different world is interesting. But to make it even more interesting is up to the animation studio and author of course.
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Alice_Synthesis said:
FMmatron said:
I don't dislike them per se. The concept is great, but the execution on the other hand leaves more than often something to be desired.

For starters, it would be great if we got something more ambitious, multiple cours long and in battle shounen fashion.


Isekai material mostly comes from novels/licht novels. A new chapter of these seem to take longer then mangas/manwhas/etc..


Wait till the source is finished, even tho I doubt that my wishes would work as well in a novel. Alternatively, one could adapt an isekai from a manga, that should work as fine.

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I'm literally watching (and enjoying) Re:Zero right now so I guess I can't answer this.
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Mar 5, 2019 9:13 AM

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I'm writing an isekai as we speak, so I don't hate isekai.

Actually in a plot twist it turns out to actually be a time jump to the past rather than an isekai.

I feel like I've put too much thought into this.
Mar 5, 2019 9:16 AM

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I like the overlord novels, but isekai as a genre has become very repetitive and just uninteresting to me.
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It's not a "genre", it's just a ready-to-use canvas you can use to tell a comedy, a dramatic story, an adventure, or whatever you feel like writing.
Mar 5, 2019 9:17 AM

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Isekai isn't the problem. The problem is that the genre has gotten flooded with low effort manga/anime they are trying to ride the wave of popularity. And some of the low effort schlock is just offensively bad. Worse is how some companies will grab almost any old light novel and adapt it just because it's an isekai. Isekai isn't the problem, it's because it got popular and people are trying to milk it, that's the problem.
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CatSoul said:
I'm literally watching (and enjoying) Re:Zero right now so I guess I can't answer this.


Rem is best girl. Fight me if you think otherwise.
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Alice_Synthesis said:
CatSoul said:
I'm literally watching (and enjoying) Re:Zero right now so I guess I can't answer this.


Rem is best girl. Fight me if you think otherwise.
Hahah, we all know fElIx is the best gIrL.
Mar 5, 2019 9:25 AM

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Skana said:
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Rem is best girl. Fight me if you think otherwise.
Hahah, we all know fElIx is the best gIrL.


Oh well.. As long as it's cute right.
Mar 5, 2019 9:28 AM

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Alice_Synthesis said:
CatSoul said:
I'm literally watching (and enjoying) Re:Zero right now so I guess I can't answer this.


Rem is best girl. Fight me if you think otherwise.


Honestly I'm hella gay (but no homo) for Ricardo but unless Emilia somehow redeems herself at the very end Rem is indeed best girl.

I did set Emilia as my desktop wallpaper after the first six episodes or so. Oh, if only I knew...
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Alice_Synthesis said:
Skana said:
Hahah, we all know fElIx is the best gIrL.


Oh well.. As long as it's cute right.
I can't deny that she's cute though. I would F her like there's no tomorrow :D
Mar 5, 2019 9:33 AM

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Skana said:
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Oh well.. As long as it's cute right.
I can't deny that she's cute though. I would F her like there's no tomorrow :D


No F ing please. Waifus exist to protect.
Mar 5, 2019 9:38 AM

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Nothing really changed. People who hate it now were hating it a few years ago already and people who liked it probably still like it.
I probably regret this post by now.
Mar 5, 2019 9:42 AM

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Lots of blanket statements in this here topic.
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Alice_Synthesis said:
Skana said:
I can't deny that she's cute though. I would F her like there's no tomorrow :D


No F ing please. Waifus exist to protect.
You don't need to take part in that if you don't feel it, it's not some essential milestone or anything.
Mar 5, 2019 9:44 AM

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It's trendy to either hate it or be obsessed with it.

Personally I do think it does have a bit of a quality problem, but there are still quite a few decent series.
Mar 5, 2019 9:46 AM

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Most people don't hate it, they just hate the term, and people talking about it all the time.

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Kuraya said:
Alice_Synthesis said:
Recently people started hating on all isekai. It used to be one of the most popular genres a few years ago.
It's still a popular genre.
Basically there is too much of it. And almost everything is cliché at this point.
Why can't we say the same about genres like comedy and romance? Those are genres with a lot more anime about them, isekai is still a fairly unexplored genre because of how new it is. For instance, Log Horizon explores how one would live inside a game. Additionally, Sword Art Online is about how the world emotionally affected the characters within it.As for No Game No Life it straight out has a new type of setting where everything is decided by games. Hack//Sign is a mystery about how one character got trapped in an MMO. I mean It isn't like you are only able to do a couple of things within that genre, you could explore a myriad of worlds with it in a lot of ways.
Mar 5, 2019 9:48 AM

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Well, its a big trend right now in LNs when it gets a solid fanbase, then an anime will follow. It's either you like/love it or dislike/hate it.
Mar 5, 2019 9:52 AM

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Alice_Synthesis said:
Kuraya said:
Alright, you do that. Meanwhile tell me why you like isekai


I like most of the animes i have seen. Why i like isekai? A different World with unique features is interesting for me i guess. That's what isekai is right, a slice of life character warping to a fantasy World. The idea of a character going to a different world is interesting. But to make it even more interesting is up to the animation studio and author of course.
Good, you got it right. The concept of isekai is interesting from the get-go it is indeed up to the studio and author

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It’s persuasive, isn’t it? Don’t you want truth like that? 』

Mar 5, 2019 9:54 AM

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Kuraya said:
It's still a popular genre.
Basically there is too much of it. And almost everything is cliché at this point.
Why can't we say the same about genres like comedy and romance? Those are genres with a lot more anime about them, isekai is still a fairly unexplored genre because of how new it is. For instance, Log Horizon explores how one would live inside a game. Additionally, Sword Art Online is about how the world emotionally affected the characters within it.As for No Game No Life it straight out has a new type of setting where everything is decided by games. Hack//Sign is a mystery about how one character got trapped in an MMO. I mean It isn't like you are only able to do a couple of things within that genre, you could explore a myriad of worlds with it in a lot of ways.


comedy and romances are 'real' genres while isekai is basically just a setting so they work differently. If every comedy anime had basically the same setting, people would definitely be as tired of it as they are of isekai.

That being said the upside of isekai being a setting more than a genre is that it can be paired with any kind of genre and there can be (and is) variety because of that even if at a glance they might all sound the same because what ties them together is having the same kind of premise and setting, rather than something like tone or thematical focus (like it is the case for 'real' genres like comedy or romance).
I probably regret this post by now.
Mar 5, 2019 10:04 AM

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I don't even remember the last time I saw one. It's most likely bored people with too much time making stuff up.
Mar 5, 2019 10:08 AM

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perhaps start animating isekai with female protagonist for a start, plenty of materials out there
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I've said it before, and I've said it again: there's nothing inherently wrong with isekai, and a well-done, original one would blow me away. There's so, so much to explore with the genre, and all that's required is that authors stop using the cheap cop-out of copying Dragon Quest for the millionth time. Just, make up a world! You can do anything! It doesn't have to be an RPG!

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perhaps start animating isekai with female protagonist for a start, plenty of materials out there


You're absolutely right about that. Even such a small change makes a massive difference, and can feel fresh.

One of my favourites I read recently was Vengeful White Cat Lounging on the Dragon's Lap, where the MC is basically a classic Disney princess done as an isekai. It's fantastic, and such a refreshing change from 'edgy' isekai MCs.
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I've said it before, and I've said it again: there's nothing inherently wrong with isekai, and a well-done, original one would blow me away. There's so, so much to explore with the genre, and all that's required is that authors stop using the cheap cop-out of copying Dragon Quest for the millionth time. Just, make up a world! You can do anything! It doesn't have to be an RPG!


I would recommend Juuni Kokuki to you, that's an isekai title with a very original/unique fantasy world imo. It has a female protagonist too, so I can even recommend it twice :>
I really like that show a lot.

Personally I enjoy the rpg-inspired settings as well but yeah, variety is always better.
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I probably regret this post by now.
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I don't hate it, I love it, it's funny
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Pullman said:
Peaceful_Critic said:
Why can't we say the same about genres like comedy and romance? Those are genres with a lot more anime about them, isekai is still a fairly unexplored genre because of how new it is. For instance, Log Horizon explores how one would live inside a game. Additionally, Sword Art Online is about how the world emotionally affected the characters within it.As for No Game No Life it straight out has a new type of setting where everything is decided by games. Hack//Sign is a mystery about how one character got trapped in an MMO. I mean It isn't like you are only able to do a couple of things within that genre, you could explore a myriad of worlds with it in a lot of ways.


comedy and romances are 'real' genres while isekai is basically just a setting so they work differently. If every comedy anime had basically the same setting, people would definitely be as tired of it as they are of isekai.

That being said the upside of isekai being a setting more than a genre is that it can be paired with any kind of genre and there can be (and is) variety because of that even if at a glance they might all sound the same because what ties them together is having the same kind of premise and setting, rather than something like tone or thematical focus (like it is the case for 'real' genres like comedy or romance).

Isekai is just being transported to another world right? If that's the case then the world could literally be anything. I mean No Game No Life isn't a generic fantasy MMO world, it's a world built around peaceful resolutions through different types of games. Even if we were to define isekai of a person being transported to an MMO, you could still have a lot of different types of MMOs. The settings between .Hack, SAO and Log Horizon are similar, but there are several differences between them as well. Sword Art Online doesn't really have magic and has more interactive game mechanics(as speed in real life and knowledge of Kendo moves translates to the game). Meanwhile, Log Horizon has a class system and a more traditional MMO setting with how it runs.
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...but I don't hate all isekai.

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Mar 5, 2019 10:43 AM

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I don't hate all Isekai. I hate cheaply made Isekai that's all of the gimmicks and none of the quality.
Mar 5, 2019 10:51 AM
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Not everyone hates all isekai. Isekai is getting more and more popular if you observe the anime over the past few years. Yes I do admit that I'm not a big fan of isekai but that's mostly isekai based on MMO RPGs. Other than that I enjoy all the other types of isekai anime.
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I just find it trite.
it's all the same plot with different flat characters and boring aspects.
Honestly, isekai is aimed towards teens and newcomers to anime. And i might be both of those, but still have no interest in isekai.
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I don't hate Isekai. In fact, most of them are too forgettable for me to hate them. They're boring, if anything. That's not to say I don't love a couple of them, but those good ones are few and far between.
Isekai is just really over saturated. There is too much of it and with not enough good ones the general consensus is that it's a terrible sub-genre.
No Game No Life, Youjo Senki, and Log Horizon are my favorites, with others such as Re: Zero and Overlord being pretty good as well. And if I'm solely talking about quality, even Sword Art Online was a better show and more memorable isekai than all the rest I've seen
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I hate people who think others hate "ALL" isekai
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i personally dont hate the genre. the reason to despise many isekai manga/anime because of repetitive concept plus the stories like to give the MC so much privilege.

loser in real life -> dead -> get revived in another world -> overpowered -> harem

typical isekai in my opinion is those that show losers who suddenly become winners after being dead or entering games.

also, isekai seems to give protagonist privillege where he will get revived after being defeated by enemies plus he gets new extraordinary talent but when he eliminates enemies, the enemies wont get revived.

thats just unfair.

my conclusion = isekai is just another variant for plot armor

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I don't hate isekai. I watched sao and I like Sinon, Escaflowne is top class isekai, even though the ending is not what I wanted. I can't wait for that Reincarnated as a Spider girl isekai anime and In Another World with my Mom, these two look promising that they'll make me smile.
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We have grimgar as the "unique" isekai and rezero as the "well writing" isekai
Everything else is garbage
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