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Feb 22, 2019 3:43 AM

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alshu said:
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also if anyone mentions kaguya I'll lose it


There are many characters with that name.

you're very right, I'm sorry, I was reffering to kaguya from naruto
Feb 22, 2019 3:45 AM

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kudo4869 said:
Kotomine Kirei from the Fate series

There you have a good villain with a complex characterization and development

wait but
he is a man ....... isn't this thread about female villains?
Feb 22, 2019 4:13 AM

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Annie from AOT
Roberta from Black Lagoon
Junko from Danganronpa
Haruko from FLCL
Lust from FMA
Kiryuuin (Both) from Kill La Kill
Hitomi in Killing Bites
Bishamon in Noragami
Meiko & Hana in Prison School
Sara in Samurai Champloo
Medusa in Soul Eater
Akane in SSSS Gridman

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Bro how can you call Akame ga kill bad but then say kill la kill and elfen lied are good XD



Did you really compare Akame ga Kill & Kill la Kill and mean it?
I'm just gonna leave this here for you......

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Feb 22, 2019 4:22 AM

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blumenbalt said:
kudo4869 said:
Kotomine Kirei from the Fate series

There you have a good villain with a complex characterization and development

wait but
he is a man ....... isn't this thread about female villains?


Oh darn.... that's true...

My bad... these are the odds of being sick. Anyways, he's a badass villain
Feb 22, 2019 4:25 AM

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Jaces_Sanctum said:
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first to mind is Sunako and Riful for me at least since they in my favs next to Esdeath



after thinking also I guess Nemesis, Bel Peol and Sheffield




oh and Medusa in Soul Eater from what I can remember was pretty good
Sunako wasn't a villain. Just because
doesn't make her one.
Im not saying she a villain because she a vampire though. It’s based off the fact she invaded a town with the full intention on killing several of them so that she and her family could build their own community not caring for their lives or how many would suffer in the process
Feb 22, 2019 4:53 AM

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Psajdak said:
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She's a fuckable sadist.
Yeah, well...
Her design is attractive, but everything else about her was, IMO, more like just another girl archetype for MCs harem.

When she randomly said she wants to fall in love, and then she saw MC, I just couldn't believe how dumb something can be; like, you have thousands of other males around, and out of all of them, you just happen to fall in love with none other than MC. :rolleyes

After that, I just couldn't wait to finish that Akame garbage as soon as possible.
My point is Esdeath is no different from the other females you listed. You omitted that point when you quoted me. They are all fuckable sadists.
Feb 22, 2019 6:36 AM

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JokerVentura said:
Annie from AOT
Roberta from Black Lagoon
Junko from Danganronpa
Haruko from FLCL
Lust from FMA
Kiryuuin (Both) from Kill La Kill
Hitomi in Killing Bites
Bishamon in Noragami
Meiko & Hana in Prison School
Sara in Samurai Champloo
Medusa in Soul Eater
Akane in SSSS Gridman

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Bro how can you call Akame ga kill bad but then say kill la kill and elfen lied are good XD



Did you really compare Akame ga Kill & Kill la Kill and mean it?
I'm just gonna leave this here for you......



If you don’t see the countless similarities between kill la kill and Akame ga kill then I don’t know what to say, they’re petty obvious.
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Feb 22, 2019 8:13 AM

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JokerVentura said:
Hitomi in Killing Bites

This is one of the protagonists. How is she a villain?
Feb 22, 2019 8:29 AM

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IpreferEcchi said:
JokerVentura said:
Hitomi in Killing Bites

This is one of the protagonists. How is she a villain?


If you watch it you will find out, would hate to spoil it for you.
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Feb 22, 2019 8:29 AM

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Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said:
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I haven't seen much anime (like 30% of my Completed are specials), but in unique series I haven't seen female villains like that.


That's because you only watch shit.


This guy has a point you do only watch soft porn anime and hentai

As far as your question I guess Lust from Fullmetal Alchemist is a good one
I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
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JokerVentura said:
IpreferEcchi said:

This is one of the protagonists. How is she a villain?


If you watch it you will find out, would hate to spoil it for you.

I have seen 10 episodes of it. She's not a villain.

Only the Sumitomo-affiliated characters are villains.
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IpreferEcchi said:
JokerVentura said:


If you watch it you will find out, would hate to spoil it for you.

I have seen 10 episodes of it. She's not a villain.

Only the Sumitomo-affiliated characters are villains.


It's a 12 episode show of an ongoing manga, maybe something interesting will happen in the last two episodes, or the rest of the manga you haven't seen or read yet.
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Feb 22, 2019 10:57 AM

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I always liked Medusa from Soul Eater.
Dunno why. She was evil as fcuk, but still captivating.
Also, Altair best villain of 2017.

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Hitomi in Killing Bites


She doesn't even fit the definition and did not even did that out of her free will.
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Really? How could I forget about Takano Miyo? Higurashi is in my favorites for christs sake.
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Piromysl said:
I always liked Medusa from Soul Eater.
Dunno why. She was evil as fcuk, but still captivating.
Also, Altair best villain of 2017.

JokerVentura said:
Hitomi in Killing Bites


She doesn't even fit the definition and did not even did that out of her free will.


Pretty sure, 'I was just following orders' doesn't stop you being a villain.
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@IpreferEcchi

I wonder why you make threads like that man. Don't get me wrong, you are starting a flame war about esdeath while also receiving really good recommendations that won't matter in the end. Well at least for you. A+ troll thread but you can do better.

Now since courtesy demands:

I really enjoyed Shikil's villains. Because you are really thinking about who is the real villain in the end.
Feb 22, 2019 11:38 AM

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sasalx said:
Don't get me wrong, you are starting a flame war about esdeath while also receiving really good recommendations that won't matter in the end.

How will they not matter? I fap to sadistic female characters and want to know which shows got 'em. I watch shows entirely based on the female characters in them.
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JokerVentura said:
Pretty sure, 'I was just following orders' doesn't stop you being a villain.


I'm pretty sure that wasn't the case.

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IpreferEcchi said:
sasalx said:
Don't get me wrong, you are starting a flame war about esdeath while also receiving really good recommendations that won't matter in the end.

How will they not matter? I fap to sadistic female characters and want to know which shows got 'em. I watch shows entirely based on the female characters in them.


Well I can find many sadistic female characters that are not villains too /s
Feb 22, 2019 1:20 PM

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really? your idea of a good female villian is a sadist that fall in love with the most basic shonen protagonist?
warning!"for anyone who is reading this, if you didn't watch akame ga kill then don't watch, its shit."
anyway here are some anime with good female villians(in my opiinion):
kill la kill
one piece (pretty much all of it's villians are good)
aku no hana (that nakamura girl is horrific)
danganronpa (not that good but atleast interesting)
elfen lied (idk if u can call those villians but eh)
nanatsu no taizai
prison school (you will probably like this one if you haven't watch it)
ssss.gridman




Bro how can you call Akame ga kill bad but then say kill la kill and elfen lied are good XD

Akame ga kill and kill la kill have the same type of comedy appeal in my opinion.

And elfen lied was just bad >.>


mmh, lets see:
akame ga kill have an awful main character(the other characters are also really 2 dimentional but atleast they are not as boring),
all the characters die before we even start to care (except for chelsea and the masked guy),
the power scaling is complete shit(like how the fuck did mine beat that guy who is said to be as strong as esdeath? will power? i say bullshit), akame vs esdeath fight was some sao level of bullshittery if not even worse, the plot is generic af.
it was supposed to be depressing but it ended up just beig bland and boring.
they had good concepts tho, i have no idea how they managed to fuck it up.

also concerning kill la kill and elfen lied:
tbh, the first time i watched kill la kill i dropped it after 5 episodes. but when i came back to it a year later i wanted to spank the past me for not realising how amazing it is.
its innovative, have a good and creative writing, the characters are acually interesting, the plot is something you wont find in any other anime and the animation quality is just amazing. don't you dare compare it to the piece of sadistic garbage that is akame ga kill.

well for elfen lied, i don't necessarily think its a great anime but it was pretty good, its not as deep as people make it to be but it has it's deep elements.
and from what you are saying you clearly don't get the messages behind it such as how humans are really fucked up creatures and the importance of family,
but ofc, you were blinded by the gore and nudity and couldn't care less about what is acually going on.
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AlphaN00b said:
Hokage_Jason said:


Bro how can you call Akame ga kill bad but then say kill la kill and elfen lied are good XD

Akame ga kill and kill la kill have the same type of comedy appeal in my opinion.

And elfen lied was just bad >.>


mmh, lets see:
akame ga kill have an awful main character(the other characters are also really 2 dimentional but atleast they are not as boring),
all the characters die before we even start to care (except for chelsea and the masked guy),
the power scaling is complete shit(like how the fuck did mine beat that guy who is said to be as strong as esdeath? will power? i say bullshit), akame vs esdeath fight was some sao level of bullshittery if not even worse, the plot is generic af.
it was supposed to be depressing but it ended up just beig bland and boring.
they had good concepts tho, i have no idea how they managed to fuck it up.

also concerning kill la kill and elfen lied:
tbh, the first time i watched kill la kill i dropped it after 5 episodes. but when i came back to it a year later i wanted to spank the past me for not realising how amazing it is.
its innovative, have a good and creative writing, the characters are acually interesting, the plot is something you wont find in any other anime and the animation quality is just amazing. don't you dare compare it to the piece of sadistic garbage that is akame ga kill.

well for elfen lied, i don't necessarily think its a great anime but it was pretty good, its not as deep as people make it to be but it has it's deep elements.
and from what you are saying you clearly don't get the messages behind it such as how humans are really fucked up creatures and the importance of family,
but ofc, you were blinded by the gore and nudity and couldn't care less about what is acually going on.


Elfen lied is about the importance of family huh? That explains why the MC is willing to forgive Lucy for killing his sister. Makes sense. Lol smfh

And dude Akame ga kill and kill la kill are the same show get real.
Both are parody styles action anime that involve an MC revolting against authority. But use the same exact style of sexual humor (both even have homosexual tension/humor) goku suits and imperial weapons are the same concept in many ways.

They’re legit the same show, I’m pretty sure Akame ga kill is a kill la kill parody and this just went over most peoples heads.
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Gyokuen Ren/Arba (Magi) is my favorite female villain its just too bad Ohtaka made her some kinda terrible tour guide in the final arc of the manga. I guess the only thing good about the ending was despite everything she did she lives and that is freakin gold.
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Feb 22, 2019 7:01 PM

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For me, best villain is Kurumi no doubts about it. And also agree that Esdeath is pretty awesome as well.
Feb 22, 2019 7:09 PM

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Shiroanon said:
well since it seems you only watch anime to jerk off, i'll have to say no
what makes a villain good in your eyes? how attractive they are?
i agree with a majority of these replies to this thread. you seem not to be judging the characters for their character development or anything just their looks and how "fuckable they are". You need to start watching some animes that are not just there for fanservice or eye candy. There are lots of great female anime villans. A great example to me would be Queen Promethium/ Millennium. As when you first watching into the whole galaxy express 999 timeline with all the movies , sequels, prequels, sidestorys, spin offs, original anime she is just known as the bad guy but once you start watching the anime dedicated to her you see didnt start out evil that way.
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Pitou is an amazing villain. Just saying
Feb 22, 2019 7:48 PM

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how is this question not bait when you even admit you haven't watched like,,, anything
Feb 22, 2019 7:50 PM

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anyway Queen Promethium from the Leijiverse is a Good Villain
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And dude Akame ga kill and kill la kill are the same show get real.
Both are parody styles action anime that involve an MC revolting against authority. But use the same exact style of sexual humor (both even have homosexual tension/humor) goku suits and imperial weapons are the same concept in many ways.

They’re legit the same show, I’m pretty sure Akame ga kill is a kill la kill parody and this just went over most peoples heads.


I was gonna argue with this but then I saw your favorite show is Toradora and that explains a lot
Feb 22, 2019 8:35 PM

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Esdeath is indeed very fuckable, but a good character she is not. Gotta think with your other head my man.
Feb 22, 2019 8:43 PM
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Shiroanon said:
well since it seems you only watch anime to jerk off


Isn't that the only reason people watch anime these days? It's all about 'best girl'

Anyhow, there are no female villains that are as good as the best of male villains.
I guess I'll second Lust and Dante from FMA 03. Lust isn't very good in FMAB though. She's only good in 03 because of her character arc, she gets far more development. I also love the idea of Sloth in FMA 03.

Fate stay night Heaven's Feel has some intimidating female villains... but I can't say who they are, because spoilers.
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Well she isn't a "villain" in the traditional sense but Kyouko Kouda is definitely an antagonist who treats Rei with malice. She physically and emotionally abuses Rei. She's constantly guilt-tripping him for things he had no control over and there are even hints of her sexually abusing Rei when he was living in Kouda household. She sometimes puts up this façade of actually caring for him in order to make it harder for him to justifiably loathe her. She's a broken person who takes out his terrible life decisions on the scapegoat Rei. It's painful to admit that she brought everything that's happened on herself so she attacks the image of Rei that's the sole problem of everything that went wrong in her life she conjured up herself. She lifts the burden so she can feel at ease. She's a pitiful, pitiful person albeit a very well-written one.
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I mean, looking at your list and how 90% of it is terrible 12 episode ecchi harems. Obviously she'd be the only female villain that's even remotely passable. lol
Esdeath is a terrible villain outside of being visually appealing and ''fuckable'' as you said.


Here are some great female villains from the top of my head.
Medusa from Soul Eater
Akane from SSSS.Gridman
Sirene from Devilman
Nanami from Katanagatari
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SigmaticDoc said:
I mean, looking at your list and how 90% of it is terrible 12 episode ecchi harems. Obviously she'd be the only female villain that's even remotely passable. lol
Esdeath is a terrible villain outside of being visually appealing and ''fuckable'' as you said.


Here are some great female villains from the top of my head.
Medusa from Soul Eater
Akane from SSSS.Gridman
Sirene from Devilman
Nanami from Katanagatari
Sirene isnt better than a generic shonen character lmfao even the antagonist from Haiyore is better
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Feb 23, 2019 8:17 AM

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If Esdeath is your definition of a good female villain, you have low standards.
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ASaid99 said:
Rimzyy said:
Pitou is an amazing villain. Just saying


Pitou is male though 🤗

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Nope, in Hunter x Hunter Battle Collection it tells us that Pitou is female.
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She's literally the worst female antagonist I've ever seen and only the terrible SAO antagonists & Biba from Kabaneri are worse than her even if we include males. So if that's the golden standard, literally any other female villain would be at least 'good' as well.
I probably regret this post by now.
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I'm not totally sure if she's a villain but Balalaika is extremely cruel in Black Lagoon: The Second Barriage. She's definately a good character that doesn't fit into the 'I am a bad bitch' canon.

Also, people are saying that Roberta is a villain in Black Lagoon. Why? If she's a villain, Revy and her gang are as well, and basically every single BL character.
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This is a meme thread because OP is obviously looking for sex appeal villains, not well-written, complex characters. I'm not saying Esdeath isn't a well-written villain, but it's pretty obvious that's not what he's looking for regardless lmao.



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Himiko Toga, that's all I have to say.

Junko from Danganronpa is also good, though the anime isn't that great
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HavenofHentai said:
SigmaticDoc said:
I mean, looking at your list and how 90% of it is terrible 12 episode ecchi harems. Obviously she'd be the only female villain that's even remotely passable. lol
Esdeath is a terrible villain outside of being visually appealing and ''fuckable'' as you said.


Here are some great female villains from the top of my head.
Medusa from Soul Eater
Akane from SSSS.Gridman
Sirene from Devilman
Nanami from Katanagatari
Sirene isnt better than a generic shonen character lmfao even the antagonist from Haiyore is better


I'm not talking about the Devilman Crybaby one.
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Gundam:
Haman Karn

Kycililia zabi

Chara soon

Ideon:
Harulu ajiba

Captain Harlock:
Queen Lafresia

Ninja scroll:
Benisato

Zakuro

There are many more. I don't really have time to include all of them. You are only watching hentai btw. Watch something decent for once.



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Akane from SSSS.Gridman is an interesting villain
Nakumura from Aku no Hana is a sadistic twat but its fun to watch her do shit


other than that i dont know any other 'good' female villains because i haven't watched enough stuff
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Hokage_Jason said:
AlphaN00b said:

mmh, lets see:
akame ga kill have an awful main character(the other characters are also really 2 dimentional but atleast they are not as boring),
all the characters die before we even start to care (except for chelsea and the masked guy),
the power scaling is complete shit(like how the fuck did mine beat that guy who is said to be as strong as esdeath? will power? i say bullshit), akame vs esdeath fight was some sao level of bullshittery if not even worse, the plot is generic af.
it was supposed to be depressing but it ended up just beig bland and boring.
they had good concepts tho, i have no idea how they managed to fuck it up.

also concerning kill la kill and elfen lied:
tbh, the first time i watched kill la kill i dropped it after 5 episodes. but when i came back to it a year later i wanted to spank the past me for not realising how amazing it is.
its innovative, have a good and creative writing, the characters are acually interesting, the plot is something you wont find in any other anime and the animation quality is just amazing. don't you dare compare it to the piece of sadistic garbage that is akame ga kill.

well for elfen lied, i don't necessarily think its a great anime but it was pretty good, its not as deep as people make it to be but it has it's deep elements.
and from what you are saying you clearly don't get the messages behind it such as how humans are really fucked up creatures and the importance of family,
but ofc, you were blinded by the gore and nudity and couldn't care less about what is acually going on.


Elfen lied is about the importance of family huh? That explains why the MC is willing to forgive Lucy for killing his sister. Makes sense. Lol smfh

And dude Akame ga kill and kill la kill are the same show get real.
Both are parody styles action anime that involve an MC revolting against authority. But use the same exact style of sexual humor (both even have homosexual tension/humor) goku suits and imperial weapons are the same concept in many ways.

They’re legit the same show, I’m pretty sure Akame ga kill is a kill la kill parody and this just went over most peoples heads.

i'm sorry but my memory of elfen lied is quite vage and i didn't even remember that she killed his sister and dad.
and i don't think the term i used is quite right either, maybe just "family" would be a better fit? i don't really know how to put it in words,
anyway, a family doesn't have to be related by blood and i was referring to kouta,lucy,yuka and mayu(was that her name?), they keep helping eachother no matter what which is what a family do, and we have the girl that die with her professor dad, she literally killed everyone except for him and always listened to what he say, doesn't that scream family?

and about kill la kill and akame ga kill, well if thats the only similiarities you have then i have to say its really not enough because there are much more differences between them than there are similiarities.
- the settings are completely different.
-the artstyle is compeltely different.
-the characters are completely different (one has good character and the other is full of steriotypes).
-no, life fibers and imperial weapons despite having some similiarities are not the same.
-kill la kill didn't have any romantic shit like akame ga kill.
-kill la kill is about a girl wanting to find the person who killed her father when akame ga kill is about a boy who wanted to be a soldier and ended up becoming an assassin(they could have done something truly amazing with the plot twist but they fucked it up).
-kill la kill have a plot twist that i doubt anyone would expect when akame ga kill have a really basic one.
-akame ga kill try to be dark and deep while kill la kill doesn't take itself seriously that much.

i could go forever with this (specially if i gave em both a rewatch to refresh my memory)
so ye, aside of what you mentioned there aren't much similiarities between the two.

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Haman Karn from Gundam Zeta is among the best imo.

Ryoko from Haruhi is another one I like. Delphine from Last Exile is another good one. Diva from Blood+. Chloe and Altena from Noir.

The list is pretty damn short though. Good female characters in anime are pretty rare in general though. Villain or not.
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Rip to all the people actually suggesting good female villains in this trash thread. OP will ignore it all
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Akane Shinjo, enough said
Classy_Cassy said:
Rip to all the people actually suggesting good female villains in this trash thread. OP will ignore it all
ye but why not suggest it anyways


Why don’t we become monsters and really mess up this awful world? Just destroy until there’s no more evil, no more sadness, no more anything…
Wouldn’t that be great?

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Tommeow said:
Akane Shinjo, enough said
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Rip to all the people actually suggesting good female villains in this trash thread. OP will ignore it all
ye but why not suggest it anyways

All evil females (except yanderes) turn me on. Nobody has a damn clue about me.
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CallMeHoot said:
Satsuki Kiryūin / Ragyō Kiryūin from Kill la Kill.

Lust from Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood.

The list of female villains I've come across is pretty short but there are probably more out there.


Lust and Sloth from the original 2003 FMA series are actually much better female villains (with the former becoming much more redeemable toward the story's end) than FMAB Lust. FMAB Lust was kind of meant to be a generic starter villain.
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ASaid99 said:
SigmaticDoc said:
I mean, looking at your list and how 90% of it is terrible 12 episode ecchi harems. Obviously she'd be the only female villain that's even remotely passable. lol
Esdeath is a terrible villain outside of being visually appealing and ''fuckable'' as you said.


Here are some great female villains from the top of my head.
Medusa from Soul Eater
Akane from SSSS.Gridman
Sirene from Devilman
Nanami from Katanagatari


Akane is not a good villain at all...


She has clear cut motivations, layered characterization and actually feels like a character, not just the big bad for the sake of being the big bad.
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Vermouth from Detective Conan
Miyo Takano from Higurashi
Beatrice from Umineko
Kraehe from Princess Tutu
Kagura from InuYasha
Luna from Gakuen Alice
Minene from Mirai Nikki
Sailor Galaxia from Sailor Moon
Diva from Blood+
Road from D. Gray-Man

what do you mean female villains can be complex characters who are more than just boobs to gawk at
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It’s time to ditch the text file.
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