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Feb 20, 2019 6:13 PM

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I don't know where to ask so I think of posting it here.

Sales thread is something that I always look forward to every week but as February all of them disappear. I can see BD/DVD and Manga sales elsewhere but I lost the convenient for reading CD and LN sales.

I just want to know why considering it covered by two people and both are gone.
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Feb 21, 2019 11:32 AM

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Let's ask the person who did the last article then.

@Snow

Any insight you can give to us?
 
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Feb 21, 2019 1:08 PM

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just wanted to make a post about this lol
 
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Feb 21, 2019 1:13 PM
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maybe they realize that those sales data are inaccurate anyway considering they do not include the digital sales of manga and legal streaming profit of anime for example

i can see that its just too much work for the moderators too
 
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Feb 21, 2019 3:14 PM
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Sorry, I can't give you much. Let me just say that when we have plans to stop posting a recurring thread, we usually mention it in the thread (ex). The reason has nothing to do with the data or workload. No idea when we'll have the threads up again, which sucks since ANN doesn't have the weekly CD or LN rankings.

Hope this helps you, @NeoAnkara and @sasalx.

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Feb 21, 2019 5:33 PM

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@Snow

Shame really. Anyway for those who like to look at LN sales like myself there is LN youtuber called Justus R Stone which arguably the only LN youtuber out there. There are lot of LN related video a well.

I don't have reliable way to get CD data except for translating entire site with google translate.
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Feb 22, 2019 1:31 PM

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@Snow is doing this any help:

w/c 28th Jan:

Bunko:
*2位 *24,034部 *68,519部 Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e 10
17位 **5,812部 **5,812部 Kaifuku Jutsushi no Yarinaoshi 5
20位 **5,657部 **5,657部 Ubaumono Ubawarerumono Ⅹ
21位 **5,465部 **5,465部 <Infinite Dendrogram> 9
22位 **5,269部 **5,269部 Sekai Saikou no Ansatsusha, Isekai Kizoku ni Tenseisuru
23位 **5,259部 **5,259部 Saikyou Mahoushi no Inton Keikaku 8
27位 **5,058部 *14,642部 Kyuutei Shinkan Monogatari 5
38位 **4,033部 284,118部 Kimi wa Tsukiyo ni Hikari Kagayaku
39位 **3,926部 **3,926部 Shingan no Yuusha 8
50位 **3,237部 214,397部 Sword Art Online 21

Light novel:
W15位 **3,106部 **3,106部 Granblue Fantasy Ⅹ
W17位 **2,894部 **6,769部 RDG -RED DATA GIRL- Koori no Kutsu Glass no Kutsu
W19位 **2,817部 *10,141部 Ansatsusha de Aru Ore no Status ga Yuusha yori mo Akiraka ni Tsuyoi no da ga 3
W20位 **2,801部 *40,465部 Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka Gaiden: Sword Oratoria 11

Book:
*4位 *30,716部 *30,716部 Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken 13.5

Literature:
B*6位 **5,143部 *27,554部 Tondemo Skill de Isekai Hourou Meshi 6
B*7位 **5,015部 **5,015部 Riadale no Daichi ni te
B*8位 **4,516部 *40,378部 Yakusoku no Neverland: Mama-tachi no Tsuisoukyoku
B10位 **4,371部 **4,371部 Party kara Tsuihousareta Sono Chiyushi, Jitsu wa Saikyou ni Tsuku
B15位 **3,270部 **9,264部 Gate SEASON2 3
B16位 **3,217部 **3,217部 Boukensha wo Kubi ni Natta no de, Renkinjutsushi to shite Denaoshimasu! 1
B17位 **3,085部 **3,085部 Kimetsu no Yaiba: Shiawase no Hana
B19位 **2,892部 **2,892部 Yokuwakaranai keredo Isekai ni Tenseishiteita you desu

(source: refugee-chan)

Not sure if rank 7 on the literature rankings should be Riadale or Liadale or something else.
Weekly light novel releases (from 20/10/2014)
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club).
*that there is data for

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Feb 28, 2019 7:41 AM
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Super late reply to you, @kuuderes_shadow. Accessing the data isn't a problem, we're just hesitant to post them (atm) for various reasons. We could maybe use Refugee-chan for the LN rankings, but when it comes to unofficial sites we're required to have multiple sources.

@NeoAnkara - Do you happen to know of any blogs that lists the CD rankings? Maybe it's something we could look more into.

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Feb 28, 2019 9:01 AM

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Snow said:
@NeoAnkara - Do you happen to know of any blogs that lists the CD rankings? Maybe it's something we could look more into.
Unfortunately I don't. I only look into it only if there are any CD that I'm interest in.
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Mar 1, 2019 5:05 PM

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@Snow

I forgot that there is also youtube channel for Oricon chart. Here is in case you are interest.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOwWLvLZ4YIlCq-HqlWjUyA
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Mar 3, 2019 9:45 AM

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Snow said:
Sorry, I can't give you much. Let me just say that when we have plans to stop posting a recurring thread, we usually mention it in the thread (ex). The reason has nothing to do with the data or workload. No idea when we'll have the threads up again, which sucks since ANN doesn't have the weekly CD or LN rankings.

Hope this helps you, @NeoAnkara and @sasalx.


so you don't post them because you can't or because of the re-structuring of the news section? If it's the latter I assume it will return once the change is done?
 
Mar 8, 2019 6:33 PM

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That's really a shame. I loved the LN rankings.
 
Mar 19, 2019 9:29 PM

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and someanithing has mentioned that he wont be doing it anymore, you can post data from a specific source and add the links for the other sources so everyone can compare them.
 
Apr 9, 2019 6:14 AM
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Still no news? Damn I need a source to check the LN rankings. Anyone got one?
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Apr 9, 2019 6:20 AM
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Man, nothing beats vagueposting.
 
Apr 11, 2019 11:48 AM

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I seriously miss the weekly updates on the sales
 
Apr 13, 2019 12:23 PM

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Japan's Weekly Manga Sales are one of my favorite news postings every week. I also use them to update my manga lists with the current volume count. Please bring these news articles back, thanks!
 
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the sales thread was one of the few things mal was doing good. there is info even in ANN, and you can't do it?
 
Nov 30, 2019 6:35 AM
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We stopped posting the weekly sales threads because we needed to change Oricon accounts to continue paying for access to this data. When we changed accounts, it became apparent to us that we were in violation of the Terms of Use for personal accounts—namely, that the data should not be posted elsewhere. For several weeks/months, we were investigating the possibility of a corporate account to post the Weekly sales without being in violation. To be frank, the amount of money Oricon wants is outrageous, and it is simply not financially feasible.

Since other Japanese outlets are not posting this data (likely due to the exorbitant price), we have no reliable sources for this data aside from the shortened versions of the rankings which Oricon makes publicly available. These top 10 are often similar titles, and since we'd already stopped posting the full rankings for a number of weeks, it didn't seem worthwhile to start posting a shortened version of this data again. The LN sales ranking is particularly problematic, because we were taking data from two rankings and removing the non-LN series to make the final ranking, which would not be as easily possible without full access.

We've been investigating other rankings/sales data options in Japan, but haven't found any that we deemed suitable within a reasonable price range yet. If you have any ideas, please feel free to mention them.


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Nov 30, 2019 6:38 AM
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how about Shoseki rankings? its usually posted by twitter users besides the Oricon rankings

its here http://shosekiranking.blog.fc2.com/

and to me even just posting the shortened versions the top 10 of Oricon each week is enough
 
Nov 30, 2019 6:54 AM

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I'll call @kuuderes_shadow since he seem to have access to LN sales.
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Nov 30, 2019 7:00 AM
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for discs (BD/DVD) sales i only know of Amazon Stalker as an alternative to Oricon

EDIT:

never mind Amazon Stalker is dead according to this http://www.someanithing.com/9725 im not updated with this one

disc sales are dying anyway so never mind it overall
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NeoAnkara said:
I'll call @kuuderes_shadow since he seem to have access to LN sales.


I get them from refugee-chan for sales figures, which is already discussed in posts 7 and 8 of this thread, and the stuff posted publicly on Oricon's website for series rankings (and other stuff that I've posted from time to time).

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Regarding Shoseki...They're probably okay for manga as they have a separate (more usable) set of rankings for it, but for light novels they're a pain to use: the data is (or was) erratic in its posting date; there's no indication of whether or not something is a light novel (so you need to recognise the name of every title - or look it up); the volumes are spread over two different lists with no way of integrating them with one another; you have to copy and paste the ISBN into a retailer in order to find out for sure which volume/version of a series is on the ranking as they almost never have volume numbers (for some reason their manga rankings do have volume numbers)... and it's a top 500 ranking, with daily, weekly, monthly and yearly rankings* and no actual sales figures, with ranks 101 to 500 on a different page to the top 100.

I used to use them for tracking anime boosts back when book-rank.net cut out most of the work by posting the list sorted by publishing label, but since they stopped I haven't bothered with it at all except for the yearly rankings.

*using calendar months/years, unlike Oricon.
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Weekly light novel releases (from 20/10/2014)
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club).
*that there is data for

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kuuderes_shadow said:

Regarding Shoseki...They're probably okay for manga as they have a separate (more usable) set of rankings for it, but for light novels they're a pain to use: the data is (or was) erratic in its posting date; there's no indication of whether or not something is a light novel (so you need to recognise the name of every title - or look it up); the volumes are spread over two different lists with no way of integrating them with one another; you have to copy and paste the ISBN into a retailer in order to find out for sure which volume/version of a series is on the ranking as they almost never have volume numbers (for some reason their manga rankings do have volume numbers)... and it's a top 500 ranking, with daily, weekly, monthly and yearly rankings* and no actual sales figures, with ranks 101 to 500 on a different page to the top 100.

I used to use them for tracking anime boosts back when book-rank.net cut out most of the work by posting the list sorted by publishing label, but since they stopped I haven't bothered with it at all except for the yearly rankings.

*using calendar months/years, unlike Oricon.


maybe MAL developers can do programming automation for that but ye this is wishful thinking considering how slow the the development of the codebase of this site
 
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