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Jan 27, 7:25 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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So... in 2030 manzai still exists.
Not sure about that good future then.

I have a lot of feelings about this finale - Hana having a child makes sense. Saaya and Homare doing their things is fine too. Henri and Masato also got a happy end.

Emiru part was very weird with building mini-Lulu.
And Lulu herself is alone stuck in the future (until movie that is, where she'll be able to come back and then leave again). Not a fan at all of those two things to be honest.

So in the end... 7/10?

And next week (if I recall) we're getting aliens - well I hope for it being more progressive (as this season was) but more coherent when it comes to episode quality, this one had a bit of a lag in the middle, which isn't something new and all Precure have it but would be nice to have it fixed.
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Jan 27, 9:21 AM

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10/10

I never agreed with people saying the second half was worse. It was just different. This anime had everything I was looking for, a great cast, heartwarming moments, deep themes and great morals.
Hana is one of the strongest characters ever, her ideals is what made her special.

This episode confirmed my theory of "Hagumi" being Hana's child. They didn't show George, I was looking forward to see what he looks like when he's happy.
I cried so much when Hana said goodbye to Hugtan, it hit me hard that the group was going to be divided. It just felt wrong.
I cried at the scene with Lulu and Emiru as well, especially when they were singing and Emiru's voice was trembling.

There are so many things to say about this season, so many things to love, they just did everything right. There's no way star twinkle will manage to beat this (honestly, I hope it does, the precure franchise needs to be more popular). But Hikaru seems cute and goofy, she's going to be a fun lead.
 
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Jan 27, 12:03 PM

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I couldn't have asked for a better conclusion, very emotional goodbye in the first half (with Cure Star appearing to help with the fight!) into a time skip to the future to see what awaits to everyone.

Details like small Charaleet were amazing, and seeing how everyone was doing now made me so happy. Hana giving birth with the help of Saaya and Homare there to cheer for her was really something, those girls really grew and I'm so happy to see that they are doing fantastic (and they haven't changed! Older Hana is a lovely as she's now, aww). I also really liked how we saw George running to see her, I'm sure this time they will have a bright future together.

I can't be thankful enough to the people who made me give Hugtto a chance and to anon for the fantastic fansubs, I'm having an absolute blast going through the franchise thanks to them giving me the motivation to try this one out.
 
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Jan 27, 12:10 PM
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Quality childrens show right here.
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Jan 27, 2:13 PM
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I was never going to be emotionally prepared for this episode and it just broke me more than I thought. I've spent the past 20 minutes just crying over it, I can't believe it's over.
 
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Jan 27, 2:43 PM
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Nothing like crying at a show made for 7 year old girls. This was the first time I've watched a Precure series while it was airing and I'm hoping Star Twinkle can be as enjoyable as Hugtto. Legit the only episodes I thought were bad in Hugtto were the crossover episodes.
 
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Jan 27, 4:04 PM

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At least now we know who Hugtan's real father is: Homare. They have similar hair color and Homare was at least present at Hugtan's birth unlike the other guy.
The new Lulu was an interesting idea but they should have changed Emiru's hairstyle to look more like an adult.
And when I saw that black cat the first thing that came to my mind: "Hey, it's Ellen!"
The Lulu arc, the crossover episodes and the Homare episodes were all good and that's about it. I think Cure Tomorrow should have had her own story arc but that remains a wasted opportunity. The final battle was bad aside from the Hana/George scenes and the epilogue was okay. Oh and the Henri episodes... let's just forget about them.
Overall it's still one of the better Precure series.
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Jan 27, 9:18 PM

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This was a really good finale.

Unfortunately, I just didn't like the show all that much. It was really only the stuff surrounding Ruru that I liked. I think Precure just isn't for me. This was my first one and I mostly hear people praising it as one of the best, so I think my Precure journey ends here.
 
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Jan 27, 11:19 PM

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First off 9/10, second this was such an amazing and emotional episode I didn't think it would just time skip to 2030 but I'm glad to see them all reunited especially emiru and lulu that one had me shedding a few tears. As usual we get the introduction of the next precure and even though this still hurts my head canon I'm starting to appreciate it. Seeing how everyone turned out in the future was interesting especially seeing hana's grandma still making sweets (seriously she must be over a 100), Saaya becoming a doctor, homare continuing her figure skating, emiru being a rock star/idol and hana becoming president of her own company (didn't see that coming at all). I was amazed that they even bothered to show the future's of the other classmates such as leek girl (yes I forgot her name) becoming a successful actor or the other two girls (yes I forgot about them too) becoming a comedic duo.

Watching them leave was painful especially when hugtan was happy thinking everyone was going to the future only to find out that this is goodbye. I almost didn't want to continue watching because of how sad it was, I truly thought they were going to pull some nonsense about how they can stay and it won't change time or something like that but once that train started taking off I realized no they mean it and nothing made me realize it more that seeing hana chase the train while hugtan was reaching out to her and crying out mama. Simply remembering it is bringing a few tears into my eyes, seriously this precure series is now my second favorite I honestly didn't think that this would end up making me almost cry or feel such emotions.

I'm so glad this series didn't turn out like how I thought it would (It will be awhile but I will rewatch this).
 
Jan 28, 1:08 AM

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WOW. this series definitely surpassed my previous favorite (heartcatch).
This series had a lot of things that previous precure series lacked as well as developing/enhancing the previous good traits of the franchise. 9/10. I'm genuinely surprised i am giving such a high score but really well deserved. LOVED this one quite a bit. Also that ending had everything I wanted but more.


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Jan 28, 7:16 AM

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Now Hugtto Precure is over and I'm a wreck.

When I started it, I had high doubt that I would like it. I'm not fond of babies and I just thought at first that it was just a huge mix of everything that made the franchise popular these last 15 years.

But oh boy, I was so wrong.

It is now officially one of my favorite Precure series. Really high up.

This last episode continues with the now recurrent showing of older precures, but never it had hit me so much. Everyone finally reaching their dreams, and Hugtan confirmed to be Hana's baby was really the best thing to finish the series on. That, and the perfect gay couple of Masato & Henri still being strong after all these years.

This finale means so much because it shows that there are always hope in tomorrow and that even though life gets difficult, it always gets better. That may come as naive, and it IS a child's show after all, but it holds so much meaning after seeing the villain's motives and despair, and the fact that it all pretty much ties to our real life's situations, too. I'm so glad Hugtto Precure exists. It was far from perfect, but it really resonated with me.

But there are some things that are left unclear, and I'm kinda sad about that.
Firstly, we never get to officially see George's face, even though we all know he is Hana's significant other and Hugtan's father. We also never really get to know why Hana dies (ouch) in the future, but I guess it is way too dark for the show, and anticlimatic for the finale.
We also never really get to see Doctor Traum's real daughter, but I guess that would have been anticlimatic too.

And that comes to the last point...

What happened with Lulu ?!
Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty much glad that we get to see Lulu back. Kind of.
But it feels... Kinda wrong..?
Like, she's not REALLY Lulu... So what about the "original" Lulu ? Is she lost in some kind of doomed timeline ? Will she appear back at some point ? Won't Emiru's affection have switched by then ? Imagine coming back home, waiting for the person you love the most, only to find out that she's found... Like... Another copy of yourself in the meanwhile..?
That sounds kind of fucked up, to be honest.

I get that their relationship's dynamics is now switched with Emiru becoming a big sister-like figure to Lulu, as she was before, but I can't get away with this nasty feeling.
Maybe it's because of my shipper mind, though...

Anyway. This was really an awesome season. I'm so sad it ended, really.
I am no wary of what Star Twinkle Precure holds for us. But hey, wasn't I for Hugtto too?

Hooray ! Hooray !
 
Jan 28, 9:47 AM
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Will Hana die soon after this so that timeloop can be complete? Because I'm not innocent enough to believe in 'open the new future possibilities' theory.
 
Jan 28, 12:06 PM

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Chokko said:
What happened with Lulu ?!
Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty much glad that we get to see Lulu back. Kind of.
But it feels... Kinda wrong..?
Like, she's not REALLY Lulu... So what about the "original" Lulu ? Is she lost in some kind of doomed timeline ? Will she appear back at some point ? Won't Emiru's affection have switched by then ? Imagine coming back home, waiting for the person you love the most, only to find out that she's found... Like... Another copy of yourself in the meanwhile..?
That sounds kind of fucked up, to be honest.

I get that their relationship's dynamics is now switched with Emiru becoming a big sister-like figure to Lulu, as she was before, but I can't get away with this nasty feeling.
Maybe it's because of my shipper mind, though...
For me it felt like... everyone moved on, found things they want to do and reached for their dreams - Saaya as a doctor, Homare as an athlete, Masato and Henri as fabulous couple.

And then there is Emiru - it was like she wasn't able to move forward and was stuck in the past, waiting for Lulu to appear.
In a way what she is doing is very similar to evil Traum from his original timeline (if I recall it was mentioned about him having a daughter that died).

As for original Lulu, from those few shots it does seem like they managed to fix their original future.
It's just that her and Emiru got a very weird and sad ending.
 
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Dalek-baka said:

And then there is Emiru - it was like she wasn't able to move forward and was stuck in the past, waiting for Lulu to appear.
In a way what she is doing is very similar to evil Traum from his original timeline (if I recall it was mentioned about him having a daughter that died).

As for original Lulu, from those few shots it does seem like they managed to fix their original future.
It's just that her and Emiru got a very weird and sad ending.


Yep. I got the same vibe, and that's part of what caused that bad feeling within me. It just feels like Emiru tried so much to meet Lulu again... It feels kind of wrong...

As for the timeline, I think that it is still the same timeline ? Since the events of the finale happen in 2030, and the whole stopping time thing should happen in ~2044 since Hagumi should be around 14.
Heck, I also thought that Hana's company's tower kind of looks like the Criasu tower, like if George took over his wife's tower after her passing away to turn it into his own company of despair.
I figured that the event would still happen, even though it makes not much sense since the Precure villains would have known of the Precure beforehand.

So that also makes sense if that timeline is fixed, too. Which makes it even more tragic, meaning that Lulu came back in a doomed timeline where she can never meet Emiru again.

... damn ;_;
 
Jan 28, 2:23 PM

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Chokko said:
Yep. I got the same vibe, and that's part of what caused that bad feeling within me. It just feels like Emiru tried so much to meet Lulu again... It feels kind of wrong...

As for the timeline, I think that it is still the same timeline ? Since the events of the finale happen in 2030, and the whole stopping time thing should happen in ~2044 since Hagumi should be around 14.
Heck, I also thought that Hana's company's tower kind of looks like the Criasu tower, like if George took over his wife's tower after her passing away to turn it into his own company of despair.
I figured that the event would still happen, even though it makes not much sense since the Precure villains would have known of the Precure beforehand.

So that also makes sense if that timeline is fixed, too. Which makes it even more tragic, meaning that Lulu came back in a doomed timeline where she can never meet Emiru again.

... damn ;_;
It wasn't shown in the show and I think I've seen it in some interviews so it shouldn't happen BUT those are two separate timelines.

One with Criasu is where Hana doesn't cut her bangs (if you see flashbacks she has similar haircut as one at the very beginning) and it already had happen - she died, George went insane and tried to stop it from happening to out Hana. Lulu and rest have arrived after all things have happened and it does seem there are fixing stuff.

One where Hana cut her bangs is present 2030 and it doesn't have to lead to Criasu timeline. What they have in common is Traum's daughter being dead (he is much younger on that photo with her), George and Hana being together and Lulu being build but now by request of Emiru it seems.

I love my SatoJun but Emiru's ending feels very much like something he would come up with (for some time he was doing those SoL shows but people forget that Princess Tutu is one of most f*cked up magical shows around... and he wrote that). It does make sense why Lulu went away but I'm still bummed out about it.
 
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I'm so happy...! Happy happy happy! This... This is... This is filled with so many feels I can't count all...! I'm so proud...!
 
Jan 28, 3:46 PM
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That last episode was the best episode of Precure I have seen. However I have only seen about 150 episodes.
 
Jan 29, 3:07 AM

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Florete said:
This was a really good finale.

Unfortunately, I just didn't like the show all that much. It was really only the stuff surrounding Ruru that I liked. I think Precure just isn't for me. This was my first one and I mostly hear people praising it as one of the best, so I think my Precure journey ends here.

Really. Maybe you could try another precure story. The precure universe is vast after all. My personal fav is the Mahou precure. How about trying that one before calling it a quit.
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Well I like Hana. Definitely my fav precure so far. I like how she stay positive with the cheering. But the story in the 2nd part that reveal that last boss is ...ughhh... not to my liking. If only not for that this will be my fav surpass Mahou precure but still Hana is the best so far.
 
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Florete said:
This was a really good finale.

Unfortunately, I just didn't like the show all that much. It was really only the stuff surrounding Ruru that I liked. I think Precure just isn't for me. This was my first one and I mostly hear people praising it as one of the best, so I think my Precure journey ends here.


As someone who felt like I've burnt out of Precure multiple times and almost swore on never touch it again, I'd also say give it another chance. While there are some similarities, no Precure series - at least from what I've seen - is like another. I personally liked Suite the best - consistent theming, good fights and a redemption arc similar to Hugtto, but even more personal than that (without getting too much into spoiler territory). Fresh and Go Princess also has similar redemption arcs, although the latter didn't click for me, it might for you. EDIT: It might be even better if you take it slowly and watch other things and you'll find the right mood for it. At least that's how I did it.

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As for me, this was my very first Precure so it'll be always special because of that, but actually the 6th I've ever finished. It might've even surpassed Heartcatch in the end - and while HC is the anime with better looks and fights and I absolutely adore it, Hugtto is more valid for me because of what kind of message it tried to tell and handled its themes surprisingly well. It wasn't always on its top form, especially in the 2nd half - I'd rather forget episode 30 and 31 ever happened -, the good parts were very good.
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Jan 30, 3:25 AM

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We are at the final. Not much more to say except, glad that it's a happy ending for everyone. Lulu and Emiru got switched,now it's Lulu who is the smaller one. xD
 
Jan 30, 3:40 AM

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Chokko said:


So that also makes sense if that timeline is fixed, too. Which makes it even more tragic, meaning that Lulu came back in a doomed timeline where she can never meet Emiru again.

... damn ;_;


That is sad indeed. :(

I thought everyone who went in Traum's train were reborn into a "fixed" timeline where the despair will not happen?



 
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Still my favorite precure is Smile, Splash but possibly this is the third one favourite.

Didn't like pretty much Emiru and Hana design, pretty childish too me (the last one is cheerful but still with age comes maturity), and I almost forgot Homare (in my opinion it doesn't suit her), since she probably still do Ice Skating long hair seems troublesome, I guess fantasy things.

Loved Cure Tomorrow design so I hope after the aliens precure comes her time to shine.

A 10/10 as a kid show. Hana wasn't the center (as is usual with pink ones) too much and life lessons were great.
 
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The send off was nicely done and emotional, good finale.

Now for the series overall. I thought the first half was good and full of promise...then the second half happened. I disliked almost the entirety of the second half excluding maybe a handful of episodes.

I didn't like the crossover episodes that felt forced into the series,majority of the episodic episode were weak to bad,and while I liked Lulu and Emiru I think they took too much screen time due to their popularity which in turn reduced Saaya and Homare to almost side characters.

Overall I still think this is better than Kirakira and Maho by a long shot but after the second half I find it questionable whether I still consider it better than GoPri despite Hugtto having had a better cast.

 
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Favorite Precure ending for me, although there were parts I did not like. Like everyone being able to become a Precure... Pretty similar to the ending of Digimon 02 where everyone was able to be a Digi-Destined, it cracked the special meaning of it.

I was expecting some more depth between George and Hana since this Precure took this route. Like you could George of the present was that guy in that building watching his future self. I was hoping for a single episode where Hana could have met the present George. And more regarding Cure Tomorrow... They just left the rest up to the fans'imagination. Still did not expect the whole tragic romance aspect but Cure Yell is such a pink Precure upgrade.
 
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The season already has a bunch of problems like characters barely interacting with each other and how they were handled, the convoluted time travel plot, relying on cross-over episodes, and all of this deus ex machina rubbish. Even Happiness had a better ending that made me feel better after watching the season. The Hugtto ending is just a prediction, kind of like the Mahou Tsukai ending.
 
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