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Jan 13, 7:37 PM
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That looked like a dodo btw. I guess there are several reasons: Japanese love mascots, so it's logical a flying squad will have a bird. The name of the squad is longevity (kotobuki), so having an ancient bird like that makes sense too. Plus it looks goofy so it'll help for comic relief. Funnily enough the dodos were flightless though.


It definitely looked like a dodo! I was wondering about that. I'm generally not a mascot fan so, for me, meh. Waste of budget IMO but hardly a dealbreaker.


It was a dodo, but the Dodo was also flightless. Either way, the construction of this world is already pretty good; the rugged terrain has clearly made railroads impractical, and there's no water nearby, so massive cargo-airships (complete with their own hangars) are the obvious solution.

 
Jan 13, 7:50 PM

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Plot and world-wise, however, this is Warthunder Air Aircade battles: the anime.

I feel like I'm watching Crimson Skies :)



Gameplay: https://youtu.be/gVbU4hC5QEg?t=293

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Skies

When I described Kotobuki, HOOfan_1 on CR said "Air pirates in a fictional 1930s like world?...someone was a fan of TaleSpin," but I don't see dirigibles in it, at least in the intro.
 
Jan 13, 10:09 PM

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I still don't know why animate some characters in traditional 2D and the main ones in 3D, but the dialogue was so naturalistic and the air fight was so breath taking (those POV shots were kind of disorienting, but I think that was kind of the point, and it really shows how confusing an air fight can be) that any complaint I could've had with the animation was mostly gone by the end.


To answer your question about mixing 2D and 3D, it's because the big cost of 3D is creating new models and rigging them up. So it's great for making stuff like the aircraft battle scenes cheaper and more dynamic than what they might be able to do in the same amount of time with 2D, or for doing a bunch of main characters more efficiently, but as soon as you start having to rig up models for all the supporting cast and non-essential cast, it can get really expensive/difficult. It's why doing big crowds in CG can be quite the pain in the ass if you want to make people in it actually look unique. That's why most of the main people are CGI, but a lot of the supporting cast and jobbers are in 2D traditional, which is cheaper/more efficient to draw unique looking crowds and side characters in.

Blending the two methods is actually quite a clever trick and clearly an attempt to take advantage of the strength of both methods, and personally I think they've done quite well with it so far. There's a couple moments of stiff CG, but overall it's pretty dang good considering what we've had in the past. Especially when the 3D characters strike a pose or aren't moving much, it actually blends in with the 2D stuff pretty well. The people completely slamming the CG are high off their asses, especially when comparing it to Land of the Lustrous. LotL had a very unique situation of minimal character models needed, and most of them being quite similar looking outside of their hair (which needed to sparkle like gems and was a uniquely special trait that CG could make look really cool). I'm not sure we'll ever get anything that looks quite like it again, except a sequel.
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Jan 13, 10:34 PM

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Wow, aside from the annoying feminist BS this opening episode really surprised me. And like others have said this really gave me a Crimson Skies vibe, a game I haven't played in a long time and now I really want to after watching this.

The dogfight shattered my expectations to hell and back, from the pre-check flight list to the final landing. The attention to detail, the sound effects, and the cinematography were incredible! It honestly looked like something Steven Spielberg might have directed if he ever did an anime. My only problem is the CGI. Was it really necessary to animate the girls in 3D when almost everyone else was in 2D? Save the CG for the dogfights, don't waste it on the characters when it's not needed.

I'll be honest, I definitely like this a lot more than Girly Air Force. If that anime ends up leaving a bad taste in your mouth then I would definitely recommend this anime to fill in the void, especially if you're an aviation enthusiast.
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Aside from clumsy and off-putting cg which I'm forcefully getting used to in this and revisions, it was pretty good so far. Granted, I don't really hope it will stay that way, but so far so good.
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Jan 13, 11:33 PM

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It's okay. The 3D isn't great but it doesn't bother me too much, but its blandness pales in comparison to the characters and story. The character seem pretty generic right now and the story is rather...empty. The fight, while cool. dragged on a little too long and the pacing felt slow. I'm going to keep giving this a shot because it may have just struggled setting everything up and will improve in the future, but I'm not holding out hopes for anything spectacular.
 
Jan 13, 11:57 PM

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I'm impressed! very intense dog fight of the season...no might be dog fight of the year! lolz
So that's the voice of Oono Akira (from High Score Girl) cute voice! suits for Kirie! (VA Sayumi Suzushiro)
This show might be the surprise 1st episode of this season!
5/5.
 
Jan 14, 1:17 AM

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Wow, aside from the annoying feminist BS this opening episode really surprised me.


So glad I'm not the only one who noticed that shit
Don't believe the hype.
 
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So your male characters are idiotic misogynists who basically complain over doing their jobs while your females are fun-loving badasses who gets the job done? Gotta love the smell of feminism in the morning. Not.

Aside from that annoying crap, this is definitely something more intense than Girly Air Force since we're gonna be comparing the two quite often this season given the whole "air force" thing going on. I might stick with this one as the weekly grind and go back to watch GAF later. The animation reminds me of Bubuki/Buranki with the blend of 2D and 3D. Could be interesting, just hoping they tone down the bullshit feminist nonsense since we get enough of that on a regular basis in day to day life.
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Jan 14, 2:27 AM

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That was a very interesting first episode. They were very quick to get right into things, but I really enjoyed it. Not much was explained nor do we know much about the characters, but other than that it didn't effect my enjoyment of it that much since the main focus seemed to be the dogfights.

I loved the dogfight scenes they were very well done and just a lot of fun to watch. I enjoyed seeing Kirie get in the plane and check everything over and just hearing the sound of it starting up was really good. The sound effects are well done. I already like Kirie and i'm looking forward to seeing more of this anime and what the other episodes have in store.

I'm hoping a little more is explained at least about the characters and I wasn't sure what to think about this anime having two styles, but I actually thought the CGI parts were done well and I didn't find the two styles to be a bother at all. I understand some will be mixed on the whole mixing styles thing, but I thought they handled it pretty well so far.

All in all a very good start and i'm looking forward to seeing more especially the dogfights. This was a fun first episode.
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Jan 14, 2:58 AM
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they "nailed the dogfights"? please, watch Sky Crawlers, or just the aerial battles, and think about what you wrote.


Sky Crawlers (and the princess and the pilot) have much more dynamic air combat.

With that said:

To my understanding, the teams behind Shirobako and Girls und Panzer are making this, which makes sense given the modeling and attention to detail with the aircraft. Essentially, this is to Japanese World War II aircraft what Haifuri was to ships and Girls Und Panzer was to tanks. And, like Girls Und Panzer, the show does have some rooting in plausibility:

The US Navy Akron class airship was designed as a rigid-hull reconnaissance airship, complete with a hangar for up to five biplane fighters for scouting and self-defense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akron-class_airship#Aircraft_hangar

Plot and world-wise, however, this is Warthunder Air Aircade battles: the anime.


I'm impressed someone has actually heard of the Akron. I also didn't know it was those people making this - I would've expected higher quality characters, and less overt violence (people died in the first episode, while neither Girls und Panzer or Haifuri had any real threat of death).
 
Jan 14, 3:13 AM

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Nice, it's like Girls und Panzer but with vintage aircraft. The dogfights left me breathless in some scenes.

Will be following this.

8/10
 
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This is definitely a series that will not please everyone but it still has potential especially for those who are into world war 1 and 2 and aeroplanes. They paid very good attention to detail in the dogfights. Will keep watching, also the CGI while not the best is not the worst that has come out, just look Dimensional highschool and compare that to this so don't let animation keep you from seeing a potential good story.
 
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Please people Wear a damn HEADPHONE while watching this, Goddamn, those sounds are so good. I expected nothing and I got a solid textbook Air maneuvers, The girls not chit chatting in a dogfight is really cool.
 
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I went into this completely blind, only knowing it was made by the Girls und Panzer director. I was shocked by the CGI, possibly because I haven't seen too many anime that rely heavily on CGI to render the main cast (I think the last one I saw was Inuyashiki). I got slowly used to it, and despite how well done the animations are, I can't avoid feeling uneasy when I see the CG characters. Something uncanny about them, or the combination of 2D and 3D.

The highlight was definetely the aerial battles. The setup to the fighter take-off made me feel like I was inside that cockpit, I felt my stomach tingling like in a summer flight. And the battle itself felt incredibly realistic. I look forward to more battles and less characters, much like in Girls und Panzer. At least I'll have a good time with that.
 
Jan 14, 8:37 AM
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Wow, it's just like Girly Air Force only much focus on aireal combat than ever.
 
Jan 14, 8:39 AM
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I'd say this and Girly Air Force are the two good ones i start off my year in 2019 for anime.

Also, glad to see more plane animes.

First episode got me with a solid score just like GAF
 
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they "nailed the dogfights"? please, watch Sky Crawlers, or just the aerial battles, and think about what you wrote.


Meh. Ugly planes putting on an aerobatics show, a bunch of Star Wars and Formula 1 sound effects, all covered with an incessant camera shake. I'll stay with Kotobuki, thanks.
 
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Hmm, I wonder how many people are going to compare this to Girly Air Force?

Ctrl+F "Girly Air Force" pg 1: 5 matches
Ctrl+F "Girly Air Force" pg 2: 4 matches
Ctrl+F "GAF": 2 matches on both pages

I guess I was expecting as much. As for comparing the two myself, I like how Kotobuki plunged us straight into the action after introducing the characters really nicely in just one scene. On the other hand, GAF seemed to be a lot more focused on introducing the protags and setting the stage for the rest of the story, and yet, it stumbled a bit in doing so.

Anyway, we're here to talk about Kotobuki.
I really enjoyed this opening episode, and provided we don't get a complete disaster by episode 3, I'll certainly be anticipating each new episode of this one every week.
The Dogfights had me excited, and some of the more trying maneuvers and situations (like our MC diving and almost crashing during that last fight at the end) had me gripping my chair, as if I was there in the cockpit with her. I'm invested, I had fun, and I'll definitely be coming back for more.
 
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Ephora said:
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they "nailed the dogfights"? please, watch Sky Crawlers, or just the aerial battles, and think about what you wrote.


Meh. Ugly planes putting on an aerobatics show, a bunch of Star Wars and Formula 1 sound effects, all covered with an incessant camera shake. I'll stay with Kotobuki, thanks.


to each his own I guess.
 
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Hmm, I wonder how many people are going to compare this to Girly Air Force?

Ctrl+F "Girly Air Force" pg 1: 5 matches
Ctrl+F "Girly Air Force" pg 2: 4 matches
Ctrl+F "GAF": 2 matches on both pages

I guess I was expecting as much. As for comparing the two myself, I like how Kotobuki plunged us straight into the action after introducing the characters really nicely in just one scene. On the other hand, GAF seemed to be a lot more focused on introducing the protags and setting the stage for the rest of the story, and yet, it stumbled a bit in doing so.

Anyway, we're here to talk about Kotobuki.
I really enjoyed this opening episode, and provided we don't get a complete disaster by episode 3, I'll certainly be anticipating each new episode of this one every week.
The Dogfights had me excited, and some of the more trying maneuvers and situations (like our MC diving and almost crashing during that last fight at the end) had me gripping my chair, as if I was there in the cockpit with her. I'm invested, I had fun, and I'll definitely be coming back for more.


Both are worth a watch, but Kotobuki is superior in plot, characterization, and world-building. Moreover, that Girly Air-Force was animated in cooperation (and had a significant event collaboration with) the JASDF tells you really all you need to know about Girly Air-Force. In short, where Kotobuki is interested in telling a good story, GAF is essentially propaganda.
 
Jan 14, 9:52 AM
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CG was surprisingly good. Dogfights were great, particularly that soundtrack.

Ending was strange. Hope they expound upon it a bit in the next episode.
 
Jan 14, 9:53 AM
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firemagnet said:
dandar said:
Hmm, I wonder how many people are going to compare this to Girly Air Force?

Ctrl+F "Girly Air Force" pg 1: 5 matches
Ctrl+F "Girly Air Force" pg 2: 4 matches
Ctrl+F "GAF": 2 matches on both pages

I guess I was expecting as much. As for comparing the two myself, I like how Kotobuki plunged us straight into the action after introducing the characters really nicely in just one scene. On the other hand, GAF seemed to be a lot more focused on introducing the protags and setting the stage for the rest of the story, and yet, it stumbled a bit in doing so.

Anyway, we're here to talk about Kotobuki.
I really enjoyed this opening episode, and provided we don't get a complete disaster by episode 3, I'll certainly be anticipating each new episode of this one every week.
The Dogfights had me excited, and some of the more trying maneuvers and situations (like our MC diving and almost crashing during that last fight at the end) had me gripping my chair, as if I was there in the cockpit with her. I'm invested, I had fun, and I'll definitely be coming back for more.


Both are worth a watch, but Kotobuki is superior in plot, characterization, and world-building. Moreover, that Girly Air-Force was animated in cooperation (and had a significant event collaboration with) the JASDF tells you really all you need to know about Girly Air-Force. In short, where Kotobuki is interested in telling a good story, GAF is essentially propaganda.


Nothing wrong with propaganda unless you just have a personal aversion to it. Just look at Gate. I would rather they colab and get the stuff right than trying to wing it and have it detract from the story.
 
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What a 1st episode this is. Describing it as a full just won't do it.

First, the 2/3DCGI mix is actually decent and not off-putting. It's no Houseki no Kuni, but it pulls off nonetheless. Definitely has the Crimson Skies vibe with the stellar dogfights and the sound-work accompaniment that is VERY reminiscent. Thought Kirie looked a lot like Akanesasu Shoujo's Akane in terms of character design and VA, though there were differences as well.

Between this and Girly Air Force, this is the best of the 2 for the season.
 
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dont like this . make every male a total idiot...
 
Jan 14, 1:21 PM

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why is there so much cgi this season?

otherwise first ep was meh
 
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Impressive, made me drop it in a few minutes. Why are the girls rendered in bad CG when those guys were drawn normally? Also, the whole "we're girls and can do it better than guys" bullshit is forced as hell.
 
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Impressive, made me drop it in a few minutes. Why are the girls rendered in bad CG when those guys were drawn normally? Also, the whole "we're girls and can do it better than guys" bullshit is forced as hell.
"bad CGI" ?? When I first saw it i couldn't even know which one was CGI and which was 2D. but at least this anime is more better than Girly Air Force
 
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Escaethorne said:
Impressive, made me drop it in a few minutes. Why are the girls rendered in bad CG when those guys were drawn normally? Also, the whole "we're girls and can do it better than guys" bullshit is forced as hell.
"bad CGI" ?? When I first saw it i couldn't even know which one was CGI and which was 2D. but at least this anime is more better than Girly Air Force

I think you need to take an eyesight test.
 
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Don't know what that was, story wise. All I know in this opening there girls who are fighter pilots, and helped to suppress a pirate attack. And what I noticed also was that the visuals aren't that enticing especially to the girls design.

Hope episode 2 will give us more content than this.
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Having a interest in WW2 fighter planes I was really looking forward for this show...But it's just too cringeworthy for me.

1) Planes don't fly like that...There a scene where the protagonist does this little flip thing and ends up behind the enemy. Well people might not understand this but by the time WW2 planes had advanced so much that they are actually much more heavy then they look and they are traveling at incredible speeds in excess of 200 mph. A plane simply can't slow down like that as objects in motion tend to stay in motion.

The dog fight looked like something more out of WW1 be even then it's stretching the truth

2) The girls just aren't cute at all, and it's due to that weird 2D/3D thing they have going on. Sorry but they look like a NPC from a web game in 2008.

3) The story is generic as heck...Fighter pilot mercenaries well that's kinda from "Area 88" though maybe a stretch, but I just feel like I seen this show before but done 100% better. There's nothing from the 1st episode that pulls me into watching the 2nd. In fact I was kinda upset the protagonist didn't get shot down by her nemesis like she should have, and killed off this dumpster fire of a show.
 
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Honestly, much better than I expected. Sound design is on point, the fights are quite entertaining, and I like the aesthetic of the world in general, even if the 3d characters' animations outside of battle are really off putting for me. Let's see where this goes.
 
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This was probably the most close anime to "Third Girls Aerial' Fighters" from Shirobako that I have ever seen.

Since dogfight between Aircrafts is not my favorite cup of tea, apart from the scene at the start where the girls emphatically and boldly refuse the guys that tried to hit on them I didn't thought much of it yet. But its not trash.

In the trailer they Advertise with "監督 水島努 「ガール&パンツァー」「SHIROBAKO」" Which reads "Tsutomu Mizushima, Director of (Girls und Panzer) (SHIROBAKO)"
So wouldn't surprise me if it is exactly that story.


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What's the fucking point of having CGI main cast (+some side chara) when there is still so many hand drawn characters? Models are awful and stiff. Also side characters-pilots being drawn might be spoiler that they die because if they were CGI they could be reused.
 
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My main problem with the first episode was that I couldn't tell the difference between the fighter plans on the battlefield so it was hard to properly appreciate it. Hopefully, I will like the second episode better.
 
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I found this pretty interesting so far. I was not a fan of the CGI difference between the female characters and the rest of the people, but I am watching it for the planes.
First, I figured that the male group did not know too much when they talked down about the Hayabusa the heroines were flying, they were fearsome dog-fighting planes, and had superior maneuverability compared to the zero (which judging from weapon layout and style, was what the pirates and male group were flying).
The Hayabusa had special flaps which allowed multiple Immelmann turns, and hammerhead stalls both of which were used. They also had a superior climb rate.
I however did not like the fact that one was shot by a zero and did not burn up or break apart, they had no sealing tanks or pilot armor to speak of to keep weigh at a minimum. That is my only gripe.
 
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DAYUM that sound design was orgasmic. This strangely felt more authentic than any aviation movie i've seen. While the actual maneuvering in the dogfights may have been somewhat unsophisticated in this first episode, it still felt very real... the shots and such had impact. My biggest gripe with combat scenes or weapons in any games is always the unrealistic hollywood-style sound bites they tend to use in place of the frightening and powerful sound of real guns and their impacts. Every shot is a jarring bang bang, and impacts crack in your ears... no pew pews and metal tinks. The biggest annoyance with bullets in 99% of media is completely inaccurate... Other aviation anime, like Sky Crawlers, or even Last Exile, sound more like videogames than real battles.

For reference, this is what they DON'T sound like.

↑WRONG↑ || ↓RIGHT↓

...this is what they DO sound like. (go to 3 minutes)


Point being, good realistic sound design is VERY important for immersion. For that i respect this anime.


They probably went for the girls being 3D to make them easier to animate in the cockpit without arbitrarily changing their character designs between clips.

...why was there a fucking dodo?? XD
...and flying no less.
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I can agree with some pretty "Hollywood" gun sound effects, for example the girls planes are equipped with .50 cal which sound like this (jump to 0:54)


While the Zeros carry 20mm cannons which sound like this (jump to 1:08)


Not really a pew pew sound to me.
 
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>Watch this anime

Am I playing war thunder?


Pretty good first episode.
"Why give the viewers the same plot the've seen somewhere else, just give them awesome aerial battles!"

They use the Hayabusa...

hope they don't encounter a P-47 squad or they ded
 
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Well the animation mixing was a bit weird. Still is. Perhaps they wanted the characters to move differently. I don't mind, and I don't think it lowers the quality of the episode any significant amount.

That DOGFIGHT THO. Honestly a rush. It's easy to tell what's happening with the good direction and flow. You get the feeling those who are experienced, are!

Really looking forward to more!
 
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rastill said:
I can agree with some pretty "Hollywood" gun sound effects, for example the girls planes are equipped with .50 cal which sound like this (jump to 0:54)


While the Zeros carry 20mm cannons which sound like this (jump to 1:08)


Not really a pew pew sound to me.


It's always been an issue with this kind of thing. They probably don't have access to an expansive sound library and finding good quality sound is a challenge. I hope it doesn't impact your enjoyment :)
 
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>Watch this anime

Am I playing war thunder?


Pretty good first episode.
"Why give the viewers the same plot the've seen somewhere else, just give them awesome aerial battles!"

They use the Hayabusa...

hope they don't encounter a P-47 squad or they ded


P-47 would not be much of a problem, the only thing that the P-47's had going for them was a high altitude dive attack, and then the field would be even. Now the real nightmare is if they run up against a few F6F Hellcats....game over
 
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So this anime focus more on the aircraft. Then Girly airforce fit my taste better especially after episode 2.
 
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commander31able said:
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I really like how they totaly nailed the dogfights and the whole air combat. I wasnt feeling this show when i saw how charackters were rendered in cgi so im glad i sticked around for the whole episode.

5/5


they "nailed the dogfights"? please, watch Sky Crawlers, or just the aerial battles, and think about what you wrote.


Using modern Fly-by-wire Jet manuver in propplane ? yeah, that shit never feel right for me.

Atleast in this anime you know what the plane is capable of and they behave like they should ( for now atleast. )

 
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they "nailed the dogfights"? please, watch Sky Crawlers, or just the aerial battles, and think about what you wrote.


Using modern Fly-by-wire Jet manuver in propplane ? yeah, that shit never feel right for me.

Atleast in this anime you know what the plane is capable of and they behave like they should ( for now atleast. )



"Fly-by-wire Jet manuver" such as?
 
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Both are worth a watch, but Kotobuki is superior in plot, characterization, and world-building. Moreover, that Girly Air-Force was animated in cooperation (and had a significant event collaboration with) the JASDF tells you really all you need to know about Girly Air-Force. In short, where Kotobuki is interested in telling a good story, GAF is essentially propaganda.


Nothing wrong with propaganda unless you just have a personal aversion to it. Just look at Gate. I would rather they colab and get the stuff right than trying to wing it and have it detract from the story.


I have no problem with propaganda except when the show goes out of its way to make it that way in order to make a nationalistic point that is otherwise unnecessary for the overall plot or narrative.

In GATE, we saw that with the ludicrous scene where foreign military commanders all but fell over themselves for maps (while Japan's ultimatum just a few chapters/episodes earlier demanding all precious resources within a 500km+ radius of Alnus was portrayed in a positive light).

In GAF, the display of national symbols so prominently and the location of the battle itself felt like it was pushing for similar national brownie points.
 
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commander31able said:


"Fly-by-wire Jet manuver" such as?


Cobra, lots and lots of cobra.

Zahylon said:
>Watch this anime

Am I playing war thunder?


Pretty good first episode.
"Why give the viewers the same plot the've seen somewhere else, just give them awesome aerial battles!"

They use the Hayabusa...

hope they don't encounter a P-47 squad or they ded


If it's anything like in War Thunder, the P-47 will mow the lawn for 10 minute before getting picked out one by one =))
 
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dandar said:
Hmm, I wonder how many people are going to compare this to Girly Air Force?

Ctrl+F "Girly Air Force" pg 1: 5 matches
Ctrl+F "Girly Air Force" pg 2: 4 matches
Ctrl+F "GAF": 2 matches on both pages

I guess I was expecting as much. As for comparing the two myself, I like how Kotobuki plunged us straight into the action after introducing the characters really nicely in just one scene. On the other hand, GAF seemed to be a lot more focused on introducing the protags and setting the stage for the rest of the story, and yet, it stumbled a bit in doing so.

Anyway, we're here to talk about Kotobuki.
I really enjoyed this opening episode, and provided we don't get a complete disaster by episode 3, I'll certainly be anticipating each new episode of this one every week.
The Dogfights had me excited, and some of the more trying maneuvers and situations (like our MC diving and almost crashing during that last fight at the end) had me gripping my chair, as if I was there in the cockpit with her. I'm invested, I had fun, and I'll definitely be coming back for more.
are u saying that Kotobuki might get better than GAF? anyway i watch Kotobuki and yes it got us straight into the action unlike in GAF where the threat attacks first b4 the main ones could attack
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Jan 17, 7:43 PM
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firemagnet said:
dandar said:
Hmm, I wonder how many people are going to compare this to Girly Air Force?

Ctrl+F "Girly Air Force" pg 1: 5 matches
Ctrl+F "Girly Air Force" pg 2: 4 matches
Ctrl+F "GAF": 2 matches on both pages

I guess I was expecting as much. As for comparing the two myself, I like how Kotobuki plunged us straight into the action after introducing the characters really nicely in just one scene. On the other hand, GAF seemed to be a lot more focused on introducing the protags and setting the stage for the rest of the story, and yet, it stumbled a bit in doing so.

Anyway, we're here to talk about Kotobuki.
I really enjoyed this opening episode, and provided we don't get a complete disaster by episode 3, I'll certainly be anticipating each new episode of this one every week.
The Dogfights had me excited, and some of the more trying maneuvers and situations (like our MC diving and almost crashing during that last fight at the end) had me gripping my chair, as if I was there in the cockpit with her. I'm invested, I had fun, and I'll definitely be coming back for more.


Both are worth a watch, but Kotobuki is superior in plot, characterization, and world-building. Moreover, that Girly Air-Force was animated in cooperation (and had a significant event collaboration with) the JASDF tells you really all you need to know about Girly Air-Force. In short, where Kotobuki is interested in telling a good story, GAF is essentially propaganda.


To clarify, the JASDF supporting the anime with a key visual as well as a small discussion in a hanger, and nothing really else - it's not a propaganda event for the JASDF nor do they appear to be subsidizing it whatsoever.

http://www.ota-suke.jp/news/226652
https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2018/09/17/girly-air-force-teams-up-with-jasdf-in-new-key-visual
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Jan 17, 8:47 PM

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rastill said:
F6F Hellcats....game over

>When you're a Japanese pilot chillin' in your plane and you hear over the radio that the USS Enterprise has been spotted and a group of F6F with grim reaper decals is coming to your position.
"Ooooh.....Ryujin-sama"

tucodon said:

If it's anything like in War Thunder, the P-47 will mow the lawn for 10 minute before getting picked out one by one =))

Unless the girls get skydived at 6.



Also:
Hope we get to see Twin Engine Meme Planes.


...uhm...I don't find comparisson between this and Girly Air Force....GAF seems like another Franxx with stupid aliens and a machine that only works if two horny teens are inside of it.

...this one has actual Air Combat.
 
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