Why Almost all Isekai harem trying whitewash slavery?

Aceofcard said:
Buying slave for their disgusting harem. Slavery is most evil shit do on others. What isekai authors never come up idea main characters and their friends save up moneys to buy their freedom or winning any gladiator matches to gain their freedom?

Huex3 said:


I'd like to see an isekai where the MC ended up becoming the slave.

Aceofcard said:
Buying slave for their disgusting harem. Slavery is most evil shit do on others. What isekai authors never come up idea main characters and their friends save up moneys to buy their freedom or winning any gladiator matches to gain their freedom?

Aceofcard said:
Buying slave for their disgusting harem. Slavery is most evil shit do on others. What isekai authors never come up idea main characters and their friends save up moneys to buy their freedom or winning any gladiator matches to gain their freedom?

TitanAnteus said:


Gun-otaku he becomes a slave.


Back in the middle ages, prisons weren't really a thing. If you committed a crime, you would be sold to slavery where you'd work until you paid off the debt to the state and then gain your freedom.

Having prisons or even the idea of public housing for homeless people is kind of a modern luxury. The protagonist of Tateyuu can not change the system. He's one man, and he just lives in the society. Kind of like how the people who lived in Martin Luther King's time and weren't racist still lived in a segregated society.

As an African-American myself, I have no issues with their portrayal or use of slavery in these fictional medieval settings. ESPECIALLY how Tateyuu portrays the process as dirty and seedy. The thing is the protag absolutely 100% needs to take advantage of it, or he will literally die. He's never a bad person throughout the show. Not even once.

Aceofcard said:
But Still, The protagonist of Tateyuu could buy the girl freedom instead using her as slave. I gonna quote Jean-Luc Picard from star trek "The line must be drawn here! This far, no further!".

LavalGaming said:
Don’t shit talk when you know nothing about shield hero. I hate peoples just assumes that every isekai or some fantasy anime is harem. Even if it’s harem I think it’s ok as long as it’s like slime where it’s pretty much nonexistent.

Osamu_So_Weak said:
What do you mean whitewash? They are all Japanese.

Aceofcard said:
I read manga, light novel and I knew godamn fact the series will have harem element. You just hypocrite assumes I don't know about shield hero.

Osamu_So_Weak said:
What do you mean whitewash? They are all Japanese.

Aceofcard said:
I read manga, light novel and I knew godamn fact the series will have harem element. You just hypocrite assumes I don't know about shield hero.

Aceofcard said:
Buying slave for their disgusting harem. Slavery is most evil shit do on others. What isekai authors never come up idea main characters and their friends save up moneys to buy their freedom or winning any gladiator matches to gain their freedom?

Aceofcard said:
But Still, The protagonist of Tateyuu could buy the girl freedom instead using her as slave. I gonna quote Jean-Luc Picard from star trek "The line must be drawn here! This far, no further!".

Afloo said:

If you read Further into ShieldBro you would know that Raphtalia ENJOYS being with the MC because he Treats her like a Person and Not like a Slave. She evens get her Curse that ties her With Shield Bro lifted after ShieldBro loses in a match against LanceDouche and asks to get it back. When A Slave gets into Naofumi's Hands it becomes free (technically). The Only reason they Stick with him is because they Geniunely Appreciate Him.

EDIT: Regarding the Whole harem Things, It will never happen because Naofumi sees Raftalia And Firo (A bird girl that Haches from an Egg he buys from the Slave dealer) as his Daughters/Sisters. If that Happens Later on then It might as well get the Incest tag because that would be Messed Up.

StargazerSazuri said:


Like killing? I mean isn't that disgusting? Taking the lives of human beings, especially the innocent ones? I mean, look at all the shows out there that have murder in them. Look at all the books that have murder (and rape). As long as fictional work remains fiction, no one should have a problem. Let people enjoy what they consensually agree to watch.

I think you just saw The Rising of the Shield Hero and just assumed it was a harem just like many other Isekais. The Rising of the Shield Hero IS NOT a harem. In fact, far from it. I won't spoil anything further.

Also, if you think that slavery is only found in Isekais, you need to see Magi. And in one of the popular spin-off (that takes place in the same world), try the Magi: The Adventures of Sinbad.

Aceofcard said:
I read web novels and it is most definitely harem genre Raftalia relationship went guardian to creepy anime bullshit faction.

Aceofcard said:
I did read further Raftalia relationship went guardian to creepy anime bullshit in light novel and he marry second princess

StargazerSazuri said:




Honestly, did you just come here after watching "How Not to Summon a Demon Lord" recently?

VeryLTTP said:

If it's one male character and two female love interests, then wouldn't that be a love triangle...?

Aceofcard said:
I read manga, light novel and I knew godamn fact the series will have harem element. You just hypocrite assumes I don't know about shield hero.

LavalGaming said:


Did you not read. I never said shield hero has or not has harem. I said isekai in general. Don’t you know how to read lol

dansuzuki said:
I really don't get what the heck is the problem with ppl nowadays.
Firstly lets talk about fiction and reality. Yes, in our real world there are lots of bad stuff happening in our world such as war, murder, rape, slavery ...(and the list goes on) and in your mindset, those stuff that are bad in the REAL world can't be put in fictional works cuz "hurdi dur, they are bad, and cuz ppl like the FICTION they might like it in the real life and become nazi's (or put here your gentle nickname for ppl you don't like)". Guys, if that was true, then think about anything you saw on television or the internet on the last 4 days, "OH SHIT, FREAKING CAPTAIN AMERICA KILLED A GUY, THIS IS WHITEWASHING MURDER" "OMG, THE MOVIE SHOWS A COOL VILLAIN GUY THAT RAPED SOMEONE, THAT MIGHT BE TRYING TO WHITEWASH RAPE" See how stupid it sounds? Fuck! remember when a lunatic made a shootout on some school and they blamed DOOM before thinking about bullying or other mental issues? So don't you think that is some kind of overreacting on small stuff? Do you understand that people are able to filter what is wrong to be done?

Secondly, lets talk about history, there actually is A WHOLE LOT of documents proving that during the slavery BOOM on the americas, there already were a lot of activists that bought slaves only to free them, and guess what, those free slaves were commonly found living on their formerly owner's lands, receiving money, protection and freedom in exchange of work (yeah, just like today, but different.... lots more racism back then, OR NOT). So, tell me, those ppl that worked to end slavery, by treating slaves as beings and equals WERE ACTUALLY TRYING TO WHITEWASH SLAVERY... HUH??? Now that statement really sounds super stupid right?

Also, if this is some "Slavery debt" (idk how its called worldwide, in my country its something like that) issue, (like OMG, ppl from today must pay for the suffering of ppl i am related that suffered something, even though i don't know what or why and doesn't matter the "when", cuz i am a minority and that makes me morally superior then anyone ¬¬). Just know this, humans are shitty overpraised mammals, ok? Does not matter if they are black, white, asians or fictional, they are just a piece of turd that last for about 80 years or so and become food for worms, am I clear? And being the pieces of turd we are, we have done the worst shit to each other throughout the ages, we killed, abused and slaved eachother for millenia, and yes, whites slaved blacks, everyone knows that, but do you know that black people slaved whites as well? YES those caucasian you think are the root of all problems nowadays were slaved by egiptians (north africans and therefore blacks), chinese slaved japanese before the other way around as well, the point is that, humans (asians, blacks, whites, whatevers) suck, we are evil, mean, selfish son's o b*****, but for you, the problem is the freaking novel that has a good guy treating a slave he bought as a friend (ok, prolly on the first 4 episodes he will treat her as a tool, but you know where i am getting into).

DAMN SON I got tired writing this shit, but ok, i know its not the main purpose of this thread as well but, since someone got into the matter, other stuff ppl don't get is the "OMG TREATING WEMAN WTHOUT RESPEC, I MUST WHITEKNIGHT THE FAKE WEMON SO REAL WIMIN WILL GIBE ME POUSSY". Please, just stop, the main argument i can make here so people can shut the f*** up about "oowwww why is the male guy getting a harem" Simple, the writer wants it that way and HER novel (yeap, the writer is a woman) can be whatever she wants it, don't like it? Don't read or watch it, make your own, and try selling it and proving you are better, ok?

TLDR: That is the story about a guy who befriends his slaves, then gets a buff to his slaves so they get stronger, treats them well and a thot princess gets fucked up by her mother. Didn't like it? go read/watch something else, no one is forcing you to watch it.

Aceofcard said:
But Still, The protagonist of Tateyuu could buy the girl freedom instead using her as slave. I gonna quote Jean-Luc Picard from star trek "The line must be drawn here! This far, no further!".

dansuzuki said:
I really don't get what the heck is the problem with ppl nowadays.
Firstly lets talk about fiction and reality. Yes, in our real world there are lots of bad stuff happening in our world such as war, murder, rape, slavery ...(and the list goes on) and in your mindset, those stuff that are bad in the REAL world can't be put in fictional works cuz "hurdi dur, they are bad, and cuz ppl like the FICTION they might like it in the real life and become nazi's (or put here your gentle nickname for ppl you don't like)". Guys, if that was true, then think about anything you saw on television or the internet on the last 4 days, "OH SHIT, FREAKING CAPTAIN AMERICA KILLED A GUY, THIS IS WHITEWASHING MURDER" "OMG, THE MOVIE SHOWS A COOL VILLAIN GUY THAT RAPED SOMEONE, THAT MIGHT BE TRYING TO WHITEWASH RAPE" See how stupid it sounds? Fuck! remember when a lunatic made a shootout on some school and they blamed DOOM before thinking about bullying or other mental issues? So don't you think that is some kind of overreacting on small stuff? Do you understand that people are able to filter what is wrong to be done?

Secondly, lets talk about history, there actually is A WHOLE LOT of documents proving that during the slavery BOOM on the americas, there already were a lot of activists that bought slaves only to free them, and guess what, those free slaves were commonly found living on their formerly owner's lands, receiving money, protection and freedom in exchange of work (yeah, just like today, but different.... lots more racism back then, OR NOT). So, tell me, those ppl that worked to end slavery, by treating slaves as beings and equals WERE ACTUALLY TRYING TO WHITEWASH SLAVERY... HUH??? Now that statement really sounds super stupid right?

Also, if this is some "Slavery debt" (idk how its called worldwide, in my country its something like that) issue, (like OMG, ppl from today must pay for the suffering of ppl i am related that suffered something, even though i don't know what or why and doesn't matter the "when", cuz i am a minority and that makes me morally superior then anyone ¬¬). Just know this, humans are shitty overpraised mammals, ok? Does not matter if they are black, white, asians or fictional, they are just a piece of turd that last for about 80 years or so and become food for worms, am I clear? And being the pieces of turd we are, we have done the worst shit to each other throughout the ages, we killed, abused and slaved eachother for millenia, and yes, whites slaved blacks, everyone knows that, but do you know that black people slaved whites as well? YES those caucasian you think are the root of all problems nowadays were slaved by egiptians (north africans and therefore blacks), chinese slaved japanese before the other way around as well, the point is that, humans (asians, blacks, whites, whatevers) suck, we are evil, mean, selfish son's o b*****, but for you, the problem is the freaking novel that has a good guy treating a slave he bought as a friend (ok, prolly on the first 4 episodes he will treat her as a tool, but you know where i am getting into).

DAMN SON I got tired writing this shit, but ok, i know its not the main purpose of this thread as well but, since someone got into the matter, other stuff ppl don't get is the "OMG TREATING WEMAN WTHOUT RESPEC, I MUST WHITEKNIGHT THE FAKE WEMON SO REAL WIMIN WILL GIBE ME POUSSY". Please, just stop, the main argument i can make here so people can shut the f*** up about "oowwww why is the male guy getting a harem" Simple, the writer wants it that way and HER novel (yeap, the writer is a woman) can be whatever she wants it, don't like it? Don't read or watch it, make your own, and try selling it and proving you are better, ok?

TLDR: That is the story about a guy who befriends his slaves, then gets a buff to his slaves so they get stronger, treats them well and a thot princess gets fucked up by her mother. Didn't like it? go read/watch something else, no one is forcing you to watch it.

25NOVember said:

Yeo then some other guy will start shouting the the hero is extra nice thus bland and boring. Buying freedom is too idealistic and that itself will become another reason for some people to hate this anime

Aceofcard said:
Problem I seen that trope use "I in another world and time for me buy slave because I can" to death.

Aceofcard said:
Buying slave for their disgusting harem. Slavery is most evil shit do on others. What isekai authors never come up idea main characters and their friends save up moneys to buy their freedom or winning any gladiator matches to gain their freedom?

-Swish said:



What in the world are you talking about? There's no harem to be found. having female characters does not equal a harem. I don't know if you noticed, but the story isn't about slavery, So going super in depth about this worlds slavery isn't need.

Aceofcard said:
This might be spoiler Main character continue buying slaves and harem will appear later on.

ByonKun said:
(responding to the op) Because not all people are trying to become heroes or anything like that. Some people will do horrible things to get the job done and others will do it for their own pleasures. I'd say there is a moral gray area when it is more utilitarianistic when it will save many more people. In the isekais that I've read it's either portrayed as abusive, necessary evil and/or forced. I think considering all the discussions on this topic that it is a good thing to have series like this.

Draconalis said:
All the people saying that s isn't a harem... It really is...

Draconalis said:
All the people saying that s isn't a harem... It really is...

Aceofcard said:
What the fuck you talk about it? The fucking problem light novel writers don't know write slavery.

Aceofcard said:
It in your own comment. You said "I don't know anything about shield hero. You can't take back what you said. Don't tell me You forget first part comment you written and only focus second part your comments?

Aceofcard said:
Buying slave for their disgusting harem. Slavery is most evil shit do on others. What isekai authors never come up idea main characters and their friends save up moneys to buy their freedom or winning any gladiator matches to gain their freedom?