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Jan 5, 2019 5:22 AM
#51
The idea and story is good, the adaptation is lame. They keep going back and forth for no reason at all. Its like they are just doing copy / paste in the source material and forget that some things work when read but not when animated, you can barely call it an adaptation this way. |
Jan 5, 2019 5:47 AM
#52
Id say people not giving it a chance ,first few eposidss are introducing characters and the plot of the story it allways picks up like naruto one piece they are slow but the story so good Depends on art style I can't wacth Godzilla or ajin the style is so shit |
Jan 5, 2019 5:51 AM
#53
After looking around I feel confident saying it's two things. The first is the non linear story telling. The second well... To be fair not much happened. I liked what did happen, but... Yeah. |
Jan 5, 2019 6:05 AM
#54
ITT: is it the show that is bad? no it's everyone else who is dumb! |
Jan 5, 2019 6:09 AM
#55
Jan 5, 2019 6:09 AM
#56
judging from the comments on site i watched this - people didnt understand |
Jan 5, 2019 6:26 AM
#57
vvicked said: judging from the comments on site i watched this - people didnt understand If you don't understand a show it's certainly doing something wrong. In this case: The nonlinear storytelling is hurting more then it is making the show richer. This 2 episodes standing alone are simply bad. This may very well change... Or not... |
Jan 5, 2019 6:26 AM
#58
Is it just to weird for normies or is this an actually bad adaptation of the LN? I wanted to get into Boogiepop for a while, but I don't want to waste my time if this just isn't good. |
Jan 5, 2019 6:30 AM
#59
i watched the first two episodes and i think the first two episodes made a very great impression to me for a mystery series. felt a bit rushed but i dont think you can say wether it'll be a great anime, average or a shitty anime with plot holes. just watch it to the end. but according to the review people didnt understand it or so. just wait. grand blue had a score of 7.3-7.6 for the first 6 episodes as far as i remember but the score now is at 8.41. |
Jan 5, 2019 6:45 AM
#60
Minecarter said: Ratings mean nothing to me until the series in question is finished completelySo, I watched the first two episodes of Boogiepop was Warawanai (2019) and I was pretty impressed at the genius of the story-telling. I just couldn't keep myself from wondering why this show has such a low score compared to cliched anime that are very famous. Were people expecting something different from this show or were they unable to understand it? |
Jan 5, 2019 6:50 AM
#61
Even if it does finish, I don't expect this to be breaking MAL score charts. Above 7.5 at the most. But really, why the hell should you be so hung up with MAL scores? They're about as credible as metacritic. |
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Jan 5, 2019 6:56 AM
#62
I don't find a 7 as low as you described, the anime is based on the single big plot twist, until this twist reveal it's clear that the hype will not appear. Also, for a show that didn't give so much hints about what's going on yet, the 7 average rate is really something. Tbh, aside from the story-telling the characters expression and reaction are really bad and suiting a medicore anime series, also the scenario is very shallow for a mystery story. The rate can grow, it happens a lot anyways, but if the series go on exactly like the first episodes I don't think it will, story telling and wonderful music are not enough to make the average score higher, but lets be optimistic. |
Jan 5, 2019 7:07 AM
#63
people are exaggerating as usual calling the show trash and stuff. My thoughts on the first episodes are not so positive either but it definitely doesn't deserve a 7.20 lol. Smh seeing those wannabe low rating reviews. Aids |
Jan 5, 2019 8:26 AM
#64
DaCraziGuy said: Most people are dumb, the non-linear story telling is to hard for their brains, plus if you add mystery to the mix their brains explode... so sad... r/iamverysmart... |
Jan 5, 2019 8:41 AM
#65
IKR I just rewatched episode 1 and so many things make sense now. The top review is already a 4/10 c'mon it's not even that confusing. If not anything else the visuals and soundtrack is awesome. |
Jan 5, 2019 8:42 AM
#66
Lul-oppa said: AshitaNoJonas said: As LN reader, I think it is doing okay for an anime adaptation. If you feel a bit lost at the moment, it is perfectly normal. Try to rewatch the eps and see if you missed anything. Try to piece stuff together as much as you can.Is it just to weird for normies or is this an actually bad adaptation of the LN? I wanted to get into Boogiepop for a while, but I don't want to waste my time if this just isn't good. Thanks for the clarification :) |
Jan 5, 2019 9:15 AM
#67
TGWaltz said: DaCraziGuy said: Most people are dumb, the non-linear story telling is to hard for their brains, plus if you add mystery to the mix their brains explode... so sad... r/iamverysmart... Yes, I am. Sorry if it bothers you. |
Jan 5, 2019 9:16 AM
#68
Unowen said: Because the score is always low when something starts, except for very specific hyped shows and sequels to popular stuff. DaCraziGuy said: It seems like you're just way too smart. Most people are dumb, the non-linear story telling is to hard for their brains, plus if you add mystery to the mix their brains explode... so sad... I'm average, the problem is that everyone is dumb. You just have to read, there is nothing hard about that. |
Jan 5, 2019 9:21 AM
#69
zagzee said: DaCraziGuy said: Most people are dumb, the non-linear story telling is to hard for their brains, plus if you add mystery to the mix their brains explode... so sad... Sums it up, people cant understand it and get impatient so blame the show. Whatever. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Yes, and that "blame the show" because they don't get what mystery is about makes it even worse. You already can tell how their mind works with that logic, not getting the premise of the show from the beginning makes it hard to take them seriously. I'm not surprised that someone might not like the show, the reasons are what I find hilarious. |
Jan 5, 2019 9:25 AM
#70
VileKurata said: The 'original' was an anime original series completely separate from this adaptation of the novels. It's an anime original sequel to the events of the first volumes with entirely different characters, tone, story, etc..Well because it's sucks and it's nowhere near as good as the original. |
Jan 5, 2019 9:31 AM
#71
really? I find it really high. anyway , remember scores can have a drastic change in 3 months. |
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Jan 5, 2019 10:19 AM
#73
I honestly don't even know why an unfinished series has a score anyway. At least, I would not even bother with it o-o But I guess some people found the first two episodes confusing because of the non linear story and the animation is not that much...this is what I got from the threads btw lol For me is so far so good, there is still 10 episodes to go, let's see how it all ends up |
Jan 5, 2019 10:48 AM
#74
You can't please everyone, ever |
Jan 5, 2019 11:03 AM
#75
ratings at the start never matter except for rare instances where a show kind of doesn't make an impact too negative or positive. |
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Jan 5, 2019 1:41 PM
#76
Animation and art style aren't the best, directing isn't doing any favor too. Besides technical aspects, characters seem really bland. Combine all of these and you get low score (at least in MAL's standarts) |
Jan 5, 2019 9:30 PM
#77
If it was based on how I score anime, I think the score would be pretty fair to even pretty good. But, in general, people tend to score way higher than I do so I do see your dissapointment. I've been looking forward to this series so I'm going to reserve my judgement unlike these other kids. |
Jan 5, 2019 11:01 PM
#78
The scores pretty high considering how abysmal and dumb the story is. |
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Jan 6, 2019 12:36 AM
#79
I really like how they're doing the exposition scenes, instead of telling you what happened, they're going back and showing it to you, i particularly liked the whole Nagi crushing the girl's arm going into we seeing the origin of the drug and that it's actually related to the man-eater and the girl's friends disappearing up to the point of how and why Nagi was suspended, but it seems that some people are finding this rather confusing. I completely understand that, one anime that i think is ridiculous in how it uses the back-and-forth is Baccano, because the story is just a really boring and simple plot told in a out of order fashion just so it seems cooler than it actually is, on the other hand BoogiePop's non-linear structure enhances the mystery plot by keeping you out of the loop and always guessing, and having revelations every couple of minutes or so. We still haven't got the big pay-off though so it's too soon to judge it, but i really appreciate the vibe the show is putting out, i still don't know if they're mixing sci-fi with fantasy. One complaint i do agree on is that the characters aren't really easy to tell apart from each other and the art and animation aren't particularly good(directing and music is pretty great though), at first i didn't even notice that the villain boy from ep.2 appears right at the beginning of ep.1, where the pseudo-main character is waiting for his girlfriend but actually meets with BoogiePop(in his gf's body) and Echoes, the boy is actually in the middle of a huge plot point there with the man-eater and the drugs, i almost didn't get that because of how plain he looks, at least the girl had some traits that made me remember her(it took some time though). From episode 2, where the villain boy meets Mitocondria(Oops Manticore) to the end of ep1, where Echoes and Nagi probably took care of the man-eater Mitocondria, there is a over 3 months window, that's why BoogiePop seems so friendly with her host's bf. PS: Why do people score anime after just one episode? |
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Jan 6, 2019 1:04 AM
#80
Because it was boring, I personally gave it an 8 but 1 more sleepfest episode and this is gonna get down. I don't care for these pretentious non-linear 2smart4you shows anyway, they are just made for edgy people to feel good about themselves. |
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Jan 6, 2019 1:46 AM
#81
1. It's the first two episodes. Like every show, it needs to find and stabilize its niche. 2. People who insta dropped it have much likely rated it low, people who will keep watching in many cases choose to rate later. 3. It's still airing and a rating above 7 for a show with only two episodes aired is actually good. 4. bUt mY bRaInZ iS bIgGaR |
Jan 6, 2019 2:14 AM
#82
It's very likely due to the non-linear storytelling. I just watched the first 2 episodes and it's definitely not what I expected, but it seems okay so far. After the first episode I was left confused and with a lot of questions, e.g. what are these monsters, what's going on and what is the story about. It really doesn't make much sense at first since you're being thrown in a mess without any explanation, but after the second episode most of that confusion was cleared up. I am still wondering who this "Boogiepop" persona is though and what role Kirishima Nagi plays in all this, since she definitely seems to know a lot more than the average person. A non-linear story is no problem to me, but because I didn't expect it and because there was barely any explanation, I was left with confusion after episode 1. I can't say if this is an actual good story or just a poor-written mess just yet, since there are only 2 episodes out there. Episode 2 was at the very least better than episode 1. The anime's definitely intriguing enough, so I'll see what the series has to offer from this point on. |
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Jan 6, 2019 4:38 AM
#83
Would be nice to have ranks based on the age of the vote. Actually as many here, I'm sure that's because of the way the people interpret this animé, so far for me, it would deserve a solid 8 based on the 2 episodes. But it could be as for Tokyo Ghoul with people who hate the adaptation while it sounds acceptable for commoners who don't read the manga ^_^ (clearly better than Majutsu no Index 3) Give it a shot for the unconvinced! |
Jan 6, 2019 8:49 AM
#84
-you are dumb and i am smart that is why i liked it -you are dumb and i am smart and that is why i can see how awful it is -it is just crappy The tread |
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Jan 6, 2019 11:26 AM
#85
The first episode did confuse me. I had a feeling that the show was telling its story through flashbacks, but I wasn't quite sure. I thought, at least at first, that it was just bad writing or directing. The second episode, however, cleared things up a little more and the nonlinear storytelling seems to be a conscious choice. The show, at the very least, is interesting and, as such, I've decided to continue watching Boogiepop. Hopefully, its worth the time I'll put into it. |
Jan 6, 2019 12:09 PM
#86
Because it has a lazy start, a chaotic direction, a bad paissing, a not special atmosphere and characters. The anime isn't bad, but I don't see anything that was i impressive. It doesn't matter if the plot twist will be great (I really want it to be), but these first episodes will be boring in comparison, for example, Steins;Gate and especially Baccano. |
Jan 6, 2019 12:41 PM
#87
I loved the confusing story telling because I have to figure out what the hell is going on and the anime doesn't spell it out for me. |
Jan 6, 2019 1:08 PM
#88
This has already turned into read the Light novel to understand it more series. This series isn't about action the story isn't what drives it . It's the characters well in the LN anyway . The anime is just rushed. And you can't judge the source material by the anime when the anime itself fails to correctly adapt that said source material |
Jan 6, 2019 1:32 PM
#89
The anime is butt-ugly, the smirking on the roof boogiepop's expression was used 3 times in one episode, 40% of the episode is completely static, and moving scenes are 10 frames per second at the very best. There is literally no reason to watch this anime, you can read light novel if you don't care about visuals. Honestly, I'd rather watch berzerk 2016 then this garbage. Especially considering that after first 3 episodes shows tend do drop in production quality, I expect pdf scans of key frames by then. Absolute disappointment. |
Jan 6, 2019 1:46 PM
#90
Klayton said: The anime is butt-ugly, the smirking on the roof boogiepop's expression was used 3 times in one episode, 40% of the episode is completely static, and moving scenes are 10 frames per second at the very best. There is literally no reason to watch this anime, you can read light novel if you don't care about visuals. Honestly, I'd rather watch berzerk 2016 then this garbage. Especially considering that after first 3 episodes shows tend do drop in production quality, I expect pdf scans of key frames by then. Absolute disappointment. Is the animation really that trash? I thought shingo natsume is working on it so the animation would be good. At least half as good as one punch man. P.S I haven't watched that show and from your comment it seems like it would be unwatchable. |
Jan 6, 2019 1:48 PM
#91
Mattinator95 said: This has already turned into read the Light novel to understand it more series. This series isn't about action the story isn't what drives it . It's the characters well in the LN anyway . The anime is just rushed. And you can't judge the source material by the anime when the anime itself fails to correctly adapt that said source material From my previous experience of madhouse attempt at adapting light novel. I agree. Madhouse studio needs to step up their light novel adaptation or just stick to mangas. |
Jan 6, 2019 2:04 PM
#92
Suleman_Asghar said: Klayton said: The anime is butt-ugly, the smirking on the roof boogiepop's expression was used 3 times in one episode, 40% of the episode is completely static, and moving scenes are 10 frames per second at the very best. There is literally no reason to watch this anime, you can read light novel if you don't care about visuals. Honestly, I'd rather watch berzerk 2016 then this garbage. Especially considering that after first 3 episodes shows tend do drop in production quality, I expect pdf scans of key frames by then. Absolute disappointment. Is the animation really that trash? I thought shingo natsume is working on it so the animation would be good. At least half as good as one punch man. P.S I haven't watched that show and from your comment it seems like it would be unwatchable. It improves in the second episode, and the animation is a bit stiff at times (mostly in the first episode) but it's overall good and done well. The lighting and oppressive backgrounds are beautiful, and the sound design is amazing. The tone and aesthetic is good. It's gonna have a confusing start, and there's a reason they aired the first two episodes together, and I'm sure they would do more if they could. It's gonna be confusing; It's a mystery series. But things will be explained as you go on, and dropping it right off the bat is ridiculous. Then again, steins;gate started off with a 6.xx rating on MAL with the first few episodes. There was also some pretty big production issues in the beginning when the anime was announced in March because the author and illustrator didn't like the character designs and weren't involved in the project which Kadokawa later apologized publicly for and let them in on the anime production committee, as they should be. There was already improvement from the first episode to the second and I only imagine it getting better now that after episode 3 or 4 the production issues will be gone and they will have had one of the authors involved from that point. I'd just give it time, and try to piece what they've presented in the beginning together. It's also apparently listed to have 18 episodes and the series was announced that in March, so they've had a lot of time after the issues at the beginning to bring in new animators and talented people onto the project. The anime is rushed so far though, and I hope they slow down. The novels are amazing and they've sped through more than half of the first novel, leaving out a significant amount of key plot points, nuances that occur throughout the novel and are important, character development, depth behind the character's actions and personalities, meaning to the ensemble of stories, symbolism, and going as far to cut out certain key events (and one entire chapter). But despite this, I still enjoyed the anime and knowing what's coming next from reading the novels, and that soon the production issues at the start will be gone, I'm pumped. |
Jan 6, 2019 2:09 PM
#93
FatherAnime said: Suleman_Asghar said: Klayton said: The anime is butt-ugly, the smirking on the roof boogiepop's expression was used 3 times in one episode, 40% of the episode is completely static, and moving scenes are 10 frames per second at the very best. There is literally no reason to watch this anime, you can read light novel if you don't care about visuals. Honestly, I'd rather watch berzerk 2016 then this garbage. Especially considering that after first 3 episodes shows tend do drop in production quality, I expect pdf scans of key frames by then. Absolute disappointment. Is the animation really that trash? I thought shingo natsume is working on it so the animation would be good. At least half as good as one punch man. P.S I haven't watched that show and from your comment it seems like it would be unwatchable. It improves in the second episode, and the animation is a bit stiff at times (mostly in the first episode) but it's overall good and done well. The lighting and oppressive backgrounds are beautiful, and the sound design is amazing. The tone and aesthetic is good. It's gonna have a confusing start, and there's a reason they aired the first two episodes together, and I'm sure they would do more if they could. It's gonna be confusing; It's a mystery series. But things will be explained as you go on, and dropping it right off the bat is a bit ridiculous. Then again, steins;gate started off with a 6.xx rating on MAL with the first few episodes. There was also some pretty big production issues in the beginning when the anime was announced in March because the author and illustrator didn't like the character designs and weren't involved in the project which Kadokawa later apologized publicly for and let them in on the anime production committee, as they should be. There was already improvement from the first episode to the second and I only imagine it getting better now that after episode 3 or 4 the production issues will be gone and they will have had one of the authors involved from that point. I'd just give it time, and try to piece what they've presented in the beginning together. It's also apparently listed to have 18 episodes and the series was announced that in March, so they've had a lot of time after the issues at the beginning to bring in new animators and talented people onto the project. The anime is rushed so far though, and I hope they slow down. The novels are amazing and they've sped through more than half of the first novel, leaving out a significant amount of key plot points, nuances that occur throughout the novel and are important, character development, depth behind the character's actions and personalities, meaning to the ensemble of stories, symbolism, and going as far to cut out certain key events (and one entire chapter). But despite this, I still enjoyed the anime and knowing what's coming next from reading the novels, and that soon the production issues at the start will be gone, I'm pumped. I hope madhouse studios doesn't treat this anime like overlord such as skipping parts from light novel and horrible cgi that gave me berserk flashbacks. |
Jan 6, 2019 2:46 PM
#94
You know sometimes manga and anime complement one another right,, http://m.mangahere.cc/manga/boogiepop_doesn_t_laugh/ May this will help people understand more// |
Jan 6, 2019 6:53 PM
#95
the rating at the time of this reply is 7.19 that's not "so low" |
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Jan 6, 2019 7:26 PM
#97
Lul-oppa said: Klayton said: I sure it's low quality effort animation wise when they bothered to do a lot of sakuga shots (even if they are low frame) and include nicely painted bg static images as well a lots of cuts with higher than average animation.. Maybe not the entire episode is beautiful to look at but those cuts normally don't even exist in regular animeThe anime is butt-ugly, the smirking on the roof boogiepop's expression was used 3 times in one episode, 40% of the episode is completely static, and moving scenes are 10 frames per second at the very best. There is literally no reason to watch this anime, you can read light novel if you don't care about visuals. Honestly, I'd rather watch berzerk 2016 then this garbage. Especially considering that after first 3 episodes shows tend do drop in production quality, I expect pdf scans of key frames by then. Absolute disappointment. They dont even have decent walking cycle throughout whole episode one, where the hell did you find sakuga here? I re-watched the first episode thinking I had missed something, but no, second time it was even worse then I remember: backgrounds are as generic as they come, I'm used to bg characters not having faces, but when main hero of the episode doesn't have a face when he is talking - there is no excuse. |
Jan 6, 2019 7:29 PM
#98
I'm Almsot Sure it will go up eventually. |
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Jan 6, 2019 7:48 PM
#99
This thread is the definition of /r/iamverysmart, "people simply aren't capable of understanding a non linear timeline, except for ME (a intelectual)". People didn't give high scores causes they didn't find it was good enough to put a high score, impresive, ins't it? |
Jan 6, 2019 9:30 PM
#100
RetroHead_ said: This thread is the definition of /r/iamverysmart, "people simply aren't capable of understanding a non linear timeline, except for ME (a intelectual)". People didn't give high scores causes they didn't find it was good enough to put a high score, impresive, ins't it? Dude never said that he's very smart and insulting others. He's just curious that's all lmao. |
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