| A woman cannot love until she has achieved something in life. There's really no other form of woman I can love. Strong women aren't a "race" they're THE women. |
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xShinigami3125 said: More proactive female characters, would be an amazing change of pace, because they are often just addons, and submissive in romance anime. Usually, submission is used to appeal to the female fantasy. |
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StargazerSazuri said: xShinigami3125 said: More proactive female characters, would be an amazing change of pace, because they are often just addons, and submissive in romance anime. Usually, submission is used to appeal to the female fantasy. Even if that's true, who cares ? And what does that have to do with my post, and this threat ? |
xShinigami3125 said: Even if that's true, who cares ? And what does that have to do with my post, and this threat ? I'm just informing ya mate on that topic. |
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StargazerSazuri said: xShinigami3125 said: Even if that's true, who cares ? And what does that have to do with my post, and this threat ? I'm just informing ya mate. How to bypass 30 chars. That was superfluous, also I wouldn't try to evade the 30 char limit, if I was you. I recently got ip banned for two days, because of that. |
xShinigami3125 said: That was superfluous, also I wouldn't try to evade the 30 char limit, if I was you. I recently got ip banned for two days, because of that. What are you talking about? Who is trying to evade the 30 character limit? :) |
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xShinigami3125 said: More proactive female characters, would be an amazing change of pace, because they are often just addons, and submissive in romance anime. This is largely how I feel too, but Bloom into You made me change my mind a bit. Submissiveness in female leads is incredibly annoying if its played up as an appealing quality of the character. But if its something that the character works to improve on as part of their natural character development, then I think its fine to have as a core part of their personality. |
There is nothing more awesome to me than a female character who has complete and total confidence in herself and her abilities. This way more rare than it should be considering the number of anime I've seen, however a recent example of this would be Monna from Dragon Ball Super.  I adore you Monna. |
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| I definitely want more series with badass female leads like Junketsu no Maria, Houseki no Kuni, Toaru Kagaku no Railgun, and Cross Ange. Having a badass female lead is so rare so when it comes around I cant help but love it. And please spare me from "strong female chars" like saber or whatever, I talk about real female leads not love interest of some dude. |
| Yes. So much. Hard enough to find in Shounen and Sports anime, but somehow it's even harder to find distinct, powerful, and inspiring girls in the Shoujo genre. Unless I'm not looking in the right places? But pretty sure the ratio of submissive to dominant female leads even today is like 1,000 to 1. My favorites (in any genre) off the top of my head are Tsukasa from Tokyo Crazy Paradise, Himeno from Pretear, Kiri from Beauty Pop, Kyoko from Skip Beat (same mangaka as TCP), and Sora from Kaleido Star.. there are more in my repertoire but they're all second fiddle to the main male protagonist :/ EDIT: I guess the OP emphasis wasn't on main characters, but it's 2019. Tired of hanging out in the background. |
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| Nah, because the most in anime besides a beta male is dominant female they just aren't my type. Instead, we should have more male dominant characters. |
UglyBarnacle said: xShinigami3125 said: More proactive female characters, would be an amazing change of pace, because they are often just addons, and submissive in romance anime. This is largely how I feel too, but Bloom into You made me change my mind a bit. Submissiveness in female leads is incredibly annoying if its played up as an appealing quality of the character. But if its something that the character works to improve on as part of their natural character development, then I think its fine to have as a core part of their personality. A character being more submissive isn't a negative thing, but it gets redundant, and simply uninteresting, so some diversity of character writing would be great. |
| What's truly lacking are "dominant" protagonists in general regardless of gender/sex. Because that's something that's not too easy to find due to that strange tendency to have "normal high school students" and such as protagonists. For some reason Japanese anime/manga/LN authors tend to write their main protagonists as submissive regardless of gender/sex, though that's probably due to the "humility culture" of Japan where everyone has to appear humble and polite on the surface. |
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| No, because in most recent anime females are way more dominant than males. If anything, we need more dominant men to even out the odds. |
Darklord_bg said: No, because in most recent anime females are way more dominant than males. If anything, we need more dominant men to even out the odds. To be fair, none of those "dominant female characters" actually seem well written and they only seem to exist to appeal to the femdom-cons. Though I certainly don't mind more dominant male protagonists. It would be good if it's also presented in other ways than just pure excessive ecchi, because at some point it just starts to feel outright silly. HopefulNihilist said: I want an anime where the MC is a sadistic woman (s&m consensual sadistic, not loves-to-hurt-people-like-a-psychopath-sadistic)! Sure, why not. Haven't seen any anime with a female protagonist like that yet. For some reason female protagonists in anime tend to be short, stubborn flat-chested teenage girls. I guess it's because that's the typical shoujo protagonist, I do think it's now time to move on from that stereotype into something different, like what you suggested. |
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| HECK yes. We need more girls like Utena |
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| Yes, is my answer. Being kinky myself (submissive) I get a kick out of watching a dominant female boss around dudes. Esdeath was perfect except for the fact that she was a total psychopath. Less murdering, more femdom, please xD! (I jest, her character arc was built on her basically being raised as a merciless hunter/survivalist) Oh, and also less whimpering wet-bag submissive male types. Too often people conflate having a submissive (sexual) nature with weakness when in actual fact a lot of the time it couldn't be farther from the truth. Although to be honest the exaggerated behaviour I've seen in some anime (can't think of a specific example off the top of my head) is probably just me not having a complete understanding of Japanese culture. If you meant dominant in terms of "more assertive and takes control of the situations she finds herself in/overcomes adversity without seeking help from others" then I'm all up for that too. |
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| Yes, more dominant ones and more female protagonists would be nice. It's just a nice change of pace to see female characters in a male-dominated character type more often. |
EndlessMaria said: There is nothing more awesome to me than a female character who has complete and total confidence in herself and her abilities. This way more rare than it should be considering the number of anime I've seen, however a recent example of this would be Monna from Dragon Ball Super. I adore you Monna. And you list a landwhale as your 'empowered' female character. It doesn't get any better than this, folks |
HeroicIdealism said: EndlessMaria said: There is nothing more awesome to me than a female character who has complete and total confidence in herself and her abilities. This way more rare than it should be considering the number of anime I've seen, however a recent example of this would be Monna from Dragon Ball Super. I adore you Monna. And you list a landwhale as your 'empowered' female character. It doesn't get any better than this, folks "landwhale" i'm dead People's taste in female characters truly differs. It's life at its finest. |
| Putting in dominant female characters into a story just because people demand it because "girl power" is the newest fad in movies, TV, and anime is a terrible idea. These characters tend to be Mary Sues since the creators fear backlash and at worst can be genuine story breakers. |
HeroicIdealism said: And you list a landwhale as your 'empowered' female character. It doesn't get any better than this, folks lol I see the irony but I think she really is pretty awesome. |
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HeroicIdealism said: papsoshea said: When it comes to sexual dominance though, which I believe is what this topic was originally going for: hell no. We need not make everything overly sexual and furthermore, I am tired of weak men bowing down to women and kissing their feet.I just want good stories and good characters. As I mentioned in my post earlier in the thread, be careful not to conflate weakness with submissiveness in a sexual sense. They are not the same thing at all. I can understand why this is viewed as being the case though as sometimes even show writers / authors seem to think these two traits are one and the same. As for wanting good stories and characters I agree with that statement. Do I like dominant females? Yes (see my earlier post) but would I watch a show purely for the sake of it having a dominant woman in it? No. It would have to have a story that revolved around either the relationship dynamic or just a story that was good besides the point of a character being female and dominant. |
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| Just more variety would be great, all female protagonists in new anime seem very samey, its either "Genki girl with huge boobs" "cool girl with black/dark blue/dark purple hair" "Sexy woman with huge boobs" or "Loli tsundere with a boob complex" its repetitive and boring.. |
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| Just don't write a character that's entire existence consists on a few traits. That goes for being strong and independant, being cute and naive, being cool and aloof etc. I especially see the strong female character just for the sake of having a strong female character in western fiction a lot and it's just as bad as other tropes. Good writing everyone, good writing should be the goal. |
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| always. especially women who look like they could whoop my ass in a fight |
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| Sorry but I had enough with "female empowerment" in the mainstream media (movies like Ghostbusters, TV series and shows). I don't want a SJW agenda here too. I just want well writen characters regardless of gender, If writers add a strong female character just for the sake of having a strong female character... eh... I think I'm in the minority here :/ |
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TomatoSempai said: Sorry but I had enough with "female empowerment" in the mainstream media (movies like Ghostbusters, TV series and shows). I don't want a SJW agenda here too. I just want well writen characters regardless of gender, If writers add a strong female character just for the sake of having a strong female character... eh... I think I'm in the minority here :/ Actually this makes you a part of the Majority here. Most of us want the well written (or ecchi) kind of Dominant Female instead of the SJW agenda Dominant Female. We like Character with Agency and being able to be Dominant just proves that the character has agency. |
HeroicIdealism said: ZaBici said: A woman cannot love until she has achieved something in life. There's really no other form of woman I can love. Strong women aren't a "race" they're THE women. A woman who devotes her time to raising a beautiful family has accomplished wonders. Not what I was going for. Homestay moms are the plague. Fucking bums. |
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| Yes but not in a dominant anime sexual/fetishist way. I want a female character that is secure, strong and badass and wears something that covers most of her persona with no cleavage involved (im looking at you damn spandex suits). Yeah yeah i know its a dream, let me live on my utopia. |
| I never lie on the internet. What's the point of it... the chinese noodles ad is an anime and avatar isn't! triggered Check out my taste and my profile. |
| Yes, especially with gap moe. But looking at this thread, my definition of 'dominant' is obviously different from what most people see it as. (dominant isn't a synonym for violent) 'Femdom' is often badly handled in anime, if it's there at all, but it would be nice to see more of it. |
| I love well written characters, so if we could move away from traditional tsundere cliche and have actual dominant females, that'd be great. |
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syncrogazer said: Yes, especially with gap moe. But looking at this thread, my definition of 'dominant' is obviously different from what most people see it as. (dominant isn't a synonym for violent) 'Femdom' is often badly handled in anime, if it's there at all, but it would be nice to see more of it. Basically this. Anime often thinks a dominant woman is one that is rude and violent, and for that matter masochists are often ridiculous over the top "cartoony" caricatures too. Proper sadism, please. |
ZettaiRyouiki said: syncrogazer said: Yes, especially with gap moe. But looking at this thread, my definition of 'dominant' is obviously different from what most people see it as. (dominant isn't a synonym for violent) 'Femdom' is often badly handled in anime, if it's there at all, but it would be nice to see more of it. Basically this. Anime often thinks a dominant woman is one that is rude and violent, and for that matter masochists are often ridiculous over the top "cartoony" caricatures too. Proper sadism, please. Agree. I'd like to see an anime that handled a female led D/s relationship well where the characters weren't just a caricature of what that actually looks like (sorry for stealing your word, man, it's just very appropriate here). I mean there are always anime that play up the various elements of such a relationship for comedic effect which is fine, but I'd like to see a more mature approach someday in anime. The whole "Domme is violent/nuts & sub is unconfident/loser" representation is often so far off the mark from how most of these relationships are in reality. EDIT :- I would also be down for a totally cutesy representation of a F/m relationship, i.e.  |
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