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So after the translators dropped the title after Volume 4, could somebody spoil me what happened at the end?
 
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I re-watched the anime recently and forgot how good it was.

Decided to try and fight out what actually happened in the light novels.

There are technically no light novel translations after Volume 4 - not entirely sure why as it was actually pretty popular. I think the novel story-line in later volumes resulted in a lot of fans dropping the series. There was a black-lash in Japan as well regarding the way the story proceeded. I think that contributed to no-one really being bothered to translate it.

On towards what actually happens. This is what I could piece together from checking out some Japanese blog sites where fans posted summaries & from the little summaries available in English posted by some lovely fans of the series - just basic what happened after LN4:




That's why a lot of fans dropped the series and why the LN's never fully got translated.

It's almost like there was a rush to finish the series regardless of the plot & story-line. Not sure why - but looking from the volume summaries it seems as though the author was going towards the quickest route to end the series - at least to me. Maybe pressure from the publisher to finish the story and move on to something else - who knows.

But killing one the main characters of the series and a big part of the story - (Itka wanting to pull Yatori away from the path she was heading down) - was all destroyed in that one moment. A big chunk of storyline.

If anyone wants to know what happened - that's the jist of it.
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Thanks for the summery. I didnt expect this ending and I'm a little disappointed but it could be worse.
 
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Holly shit! That's how it ends? They made a good story with a lot of potential shitty. Oh man, and I liked the anime so much.
 
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Eromanga-sensei said:
Thanks for the summery. I didnt expect this ending and I'm a little disappointed but it could be worse.


Worse? Worse how? This was horrible.
 
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Then...all I can do now is to save a picture of Itka & Yatori sitting together. I'll imagine a perfect love story ever told, and in another life, I wish them to be together for a long time again...
 
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aa786 said:
I re-watched the anime recently and forgot how good it was.

Decided to try and fight out what actually happened in the light novels.

There are technically no light novel translations after Volume 4 - not entirely sure why as it was actually pretty popular. I think the novel story-line in later volumes resulted in a lot of fans dropping the series. There was a black-lash in Japan as well regarding the way the story proceeded. I think that contributed to no-one really being bothered to translate it.

On towards what actually happens. This is what I could piece together from checking out some Japanese blog sites where fans posted summaries & from the little summaries available in English posted by some lovely fans of the series - just basic what happened after LN4:




That's why a lot of fans dropped the series and why the LN's never fully got translated.

It's almost like there was a rush to finish the series regardless of the plot & story-line. Not sure why - but looking from the volume summaries it seems as though the author was going towards the quickest route to end the series - at least to me. Maybe pressure from the publisher to finish the story and move on to something else - who knows.

But killing one the main characters of the series and a big part of the story - (Itka wanting to pull Yatori away from the path she was heading down) - was all destroyed in that one moment. A big chunk of storyline.

If anyone wants to know what happened - that's the jist of it.



What happened with haroma, matthew and torway????
 
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uh part of the spoilers above are totally wrong.



Despite what Yatori fans would like you to believe, here was not a lot of drop from "fans" as the sales didn't especially go down in the later volumes. Although the very last volumes didn't please everyone (I personally thought it was a satisfying and logical end to it).

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What happened with haroma, matthew and torway????

They're alive and well.
Mathew is married to Polmi and has 4 children by the time he's 30-ish years old. he lives in a big estate near the coast. He's a serious candidate for being the next Marshal in the republic. By the time of the series, he had reached Ikta's level in the chess-like game they were playing and was an incredibly talented general.
The other two are still single.
Torway is a general as well and still pushing forward the research on guns and snipping. He got a crazy reputation in that field.
Haroma is a bit lower than general but I don't remember her exact rank, it's still pretty high IIRC. She's extremely active in revolutionizing the field medic's methods, ethics and tools.
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Lattoria said:
Then...all I can do now is to save a picture of Itka & Yatori sitting together. I'll imagine a perfect love story ever told, and in another life, I wish them to be together for a long time again...
u r so god damn right
 
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So Yatori is dead and Ikta is dead, wtf the story was so good what the hell happen,like Lattoria said I will imagine my true ending where Ikta and Yatori still alive and together...... shit still hurts
 
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KillerCrazy said:
Eromanga-sensei said:
Thanks for the summery. I didnt expect this ending and I'm a little disappointed but it could be worse.


Worse? Worse how? This was horrible.



If Ikta ended up marrying Chamille and becoming an emperor and they lived happily ever after that would've been the worst ending. Come on what is this? Disney. XD
 
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Thanks for all the spoilers. Overall I don't think it's bad. It's good to the point that it will keep you thinking for a few days. Not because the characters die doesn't mean the story is bad lol. Sometimes them dying is even the best course. And if the character's death will be a reason to stop reading this series then Game of Thrones should've been hated after they killed all those lovely characters, but no it's still on the top.

Anyways, this will be me ranting on and on. XD

I love the anime with all the battle strategies, political conflicts and a slight mention about their religion which is an interesting topic for me. So it really shocked me that it didn't even get a season 2. Sword Art Online was so so and yet it had an ending at least. So why not this series?

After reading the spoilers it shocked and frustrated me to know the deaths in this story. LOL. And I get why a lot of fans were disappointed but personally I think Ikta's death is expected. I mean can you really see that guy settling down in a peaceful place after the war? Cause I certainly can't. Besides Yatori's dead XD. I think if you're a fan of that ship it's appropriate that Ikta will die too. Because if he won't then he'd definitely end up with Chamille which will be more frustrating for us shippers out there.


And about Yatori, I admit she's a plain anime character. Almost all tsundere girls are like that, cold yet somehow warm or whatever. But for me in this series the reason why Yatori is so interesting is because of her chemistry with Ikta, they are both extremes in their own way and when they're together they balance each other out. And their bond is not just a love-hate relationship, it's unique in a way that they really have different ideologies. As in different, you know that it's impossible for them to be on the same side yet when they're together they just manage to make you fall for them.

But if that will drag on, then it will just be another action-romance anime like we all have seen. So her death is the thing that made this story even more interesting. Yes, Ikta's mission to drag Yatori out of that killing machine lifestyle would be senseless now that she's dead but I think it will also lead way to a better character development in Ikta's part. Not romantically but on a personal level.

And it's a shame that I cannot read japanese or any other language because I would like to see how the annoying Chamille can turn out to be a ruthless ruler enough for Ikta to fall her. Don't ship them really, but I would like to see how the characters developed.
 
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i cant say, that is bad story or not, but i feel bad for them. i totally agree with ikta not end with princess, but im not happy with that ending. forgive me, that's just my selfishness
 
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The novel went to hell when the author to make Chamille the protagonist killed Yatori.
If you red "The prince" by Maquiavelo you can note that the egocentric princess is no more than a selfish brat.

The hell with both of the protagonists death.
Even if it were cliche, I think most of us expected an end where the empire won and Ikta will retire to live peacefully somewhere.
Not that they forced us to accept a capricious princess with no idea of the real world.

I loved the anime because Ikta is one of the few strategists of this medium in which his strategies made sense and did not happen because the author wanted it, a pity for the heartbreaking end of this series.
I can read Japanese and I expected to read the novel, but now I see that it would be a waste of time.
 
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LastLuminescence said:
The novel went to hell when the author to make Chamille the protagonist killed Yatori.
If you red "The prince" by Maquiavelo you can note that the egocentric princess is no more than a selfish brat.

The hell with both of the protagonists death.
Even if it were cliche, I think most of us expected an end where the empire won and Ikta will retire to live peacefully somewhere.
Not that they forced us to accept a capricious princess with no idea of the real world.

I loved the anime because Ikta is one of the few strategists of this medium in which his strategies made sense and did not happen because the author wanted it, a pity for the heartbreaking end of this series.
I can read Japanese and I expected to read the novel, but now I see that it would be a waste of time.

Yeah, I'm really not excited to read it now as well...

The more I watch the Classics(Ashita no Joe, The Kindaichi Files, Prince of Tennis, Detective Conan, the Gundam series...), more my admiration for them furthers, the Quality(The surgical OSTs, Innovative sound effects, Developing emotions on the act[for instance, a rage], Amazing Comic timings, Subtle romances, and even Culture) you see on those Classics isn’t really on the industry anymore, you should definitely check them!

 
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LastLuminescence said:
The novel went to hell when the author to make Chamille the protagonist killed Yatori.
If you red "The prince" by Maquiavelo you can note that the egocentric princess is no more than a selfish brat.

The hell with both of the protagonists death.
Even if it were cliche, I think most of us expected an end where the empire won and Ikta will retire to live peacefully somewhere.
Not that they forced us to accept a capricious princess with no idea of the real world.

I loved the anime because Ikta is one of the few strategists of this medium in which his strategies made sense and did not happen because the author wanted it, a pity for the heartbreaking end of this series.
I can read Japanese and I expected to read the novel, but now I see that it would be a waste of time.


I agree i mean from his personality he is more of a man of science i though empire would fall and adapted to Republic but he and the princess won't be executed maybe some jail sentence and after he got out he will pursue his scientific ambitions And yatori alive to accompany him if she alive but oh well the author fuck it up sigh now where can i find a nice strategy anime to follow other than youjo senki
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LastLuminescence said:
The novel went to hell when the author to make Chamille the protagonist killed Yatori.
If you red "The prince" by Maquiavelo you can note that the egocentric princess is no more than a selfish brat.

The hell with both of the protagonists death.
Even if it were cliche, I think most of us expected an end where the empire won and Ikta will retire to live peacefully somewhere.
Not that they forced us to accept a capricious princess with no idea of the real world.

I loved the anime because Ikta is one of the few strategists of this medium in which his strategies made sense and did not happen because the author wanted it, a pity for the heartbreaking end of this series.
I can read Japanese and I expected to read the novel, but now I see that it would be a waste of time.

the hell with that post?
- Chamille didn't kill Yatori.
- Chamille is the most selfless character in this series, not the most selfish -_-.
-"both protagonist dying" is not true either
- So you expected a happy ending for characters in a military story and are protesting when it didn't happen. I think you should stick to non-military stories from now on.
-It is true for this series quality on military tactics and strategy, that's the only thing in your post so far that made sense btw.
- You're better staying away from that novel indeed. Not because it's bad though, but because military stories are not for you, as I pointed out above.

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Yeah, I'm really not excited to read it now as well...

a list of lies is rarely exciting indeed.
 
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i cant say, that is bad story or not, but i feel bad for them. i totally agree with ikta not end with princess, but im not happy with that ending. forgive me, that's just my selfishness

TBH solely from the LN, at least from the Princess part, you can say she was being the typical tsundere that falls for the MC, easily.
So when I heard Yatori died, I was shocked and then realized the writter maybe was going for this ship instead, noneless that ending... would actually like to read it all, seems at least different.
 
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Doesn't anyone know a website with LN illustrations of the novels?
 
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Wow..... Thanks guys for letting me know I honestly did not expect for Itka to die. I actually thought that at least Itka or Yatori would live. They could’ve done a much more better job I think. I’m 100% certain that they rushed the manga and that it might of been a reason on who the manga ended. Anyway, does anyone of you know where can I find the Japanese manga, I want to check the drawings now that I know the end.
 
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Wow..... Thanks guys for letting me know I honestly did not expect for Itka to die. I actually thought that at least Itka or Yatori would live. They could’ve done a much more better job I think. I’m 100% certain that they rushed the manga and that it might of been a reason on who the manga ended. Anyway, does anyone of you know where can I find the Japanese manga, I want to check the drawings now that I know the end.

It's not a manga, it's a novel, and it never felt rushed, it followed its normal course. In war, barely anything goes the way peoples 'd want them to go.

I know where you can buy the novels, but not where you can see its illustrations.
 
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Omg if i wasn't depressed before now im definitely.So it was all for nothing...
 
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Zefyris said:
uh part of the spoilers above are totally wrong.



Despite what Yatori fans would like you to believe, here was not a lot of drop from "fans" as the sales didn't especially go down in the later volumes. Although the very last volumes didn't please everyone (I personally thought it was a satisfying and logical end to it).

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What happened with haroma, matthew and torway????

They're alive and well.
Mathew is married to Polmi and has 4 children by the time he's 30-ish years old. he lives in a big estate near the coast. He's a serious candidate for being the next Marshal in the republic. By the time of the series, he had reached Ikta's level in the chess-like game they were playing and was an incredibly talented general.
The other two are still single.
Torway is a general as well and still pushing forward the research on guns and snipping. He got a crazy reputation in that field.
Haroma is a bit lower than general but I don't remember her exact rank, it's still pretty high IIRC. She's extremely active in revolutionizing the field medic's methods, ethics and tools.

Is there some kind of legacy in epilog or something for the Yatori and Ikta like does "main" characters go to some kind of grave or are they thinking about them i really need to know this so i get some kind of relief at the end
 
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matkrai said:
Zefyris said:
uh part of the spoilers above are totally wrong.



Despite what Yatori fans would like you to believe, here was not a lot of drop from "fans" as the sales didn't especially go down in the later volumes. Although the very last volumes didn't please everyone (I personally thought it was a satisfying and logical end to it).


They're alive and well.
Mathew is married to Polmi and has 4 children by the time he's 30-ish years old. he lives in a big estate near the coast. He's a serious candidate for being the next Marshal in the republic. By the time of the series, he had reached Ikta's level in the chess-like game they were playing and was an incredibly talented general.
The other two are still single.
Torway is a general as well and still pushing forward the research on guns and snipping. He got a crazy reputation in that field.
Haroma is a bit lower than general but I don't remember her exact rank, it's still pretty high IIRC. She's extremely active in revolutionizing the field medic's methods, ethics and tools.

Is there some kind of legacy in epilog or something for the Yatori and Ikta like does "main" characters go to some kind of grave or are they thinking about them i really need to know this so i get some kind of relief at the end

It would be quite hard to explain since it requires ton of infos that no one mentioned so far in this thread, but better than legacy, you could almost say that all important characters in this story met some kind of happy end.
 
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Zefyris said:
matkrai said:

Is there some kind of legacy in epilog or something for the Yatori and Ikta like does "main" characters go to some kind of grave or are they thinking about them i really need to know this so i get some kind of relief at the end

It would be quite hard to explain since it requires ton of infos that no one mentioned so far in this thread, but better than legacy, you could almost say that all important characters in this story met some kind of happy end.


Thanks for replying but i still don't get it i understand that all other characters are happy but i want to know is there some kind of closure for Ikta and Yatori like Ikta thinking about her before he dies or even some other characters talking about them after their deaths in the epilogue or some simbol like when neji died we got bird flying so we can see that he is finally free if you can think of anything it would really be great thanks anyways.
 
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matkrai said:
Zefyris said:

It would be quite hard to explain since it requires ton of infos that no one mentioned so far in this thread, but better than legacy, you could almost say that all important characters in this story met some kind of happy end.


Thanks for replying but i still don't get it i understand that all other characters are happy but i want to know is there some kind of closure for Ikta and Yatori like Ikta thinking about her before he dies or even some other characters talking about them after their deaths in the epilogue or some simbol like when neji died we got bird flying so we can see that he is finally free if you can think of anything it would really be great thanks anyways.

No, like I said, for ALL the important characters. Icta and Yatri are obviously important characters.
There is an epilogue about Icta and Yatri indeed.
 
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Zefyris said:
matkrai said:


Thanks for replying but i still don't get it i understand that all other characters are happy but i want to know is there some kind of closure for Ikta and Yatori like Ikta thinking about her before he dies or even some other characters talking about them after their deaths in the epilogue or some simbol like when neji died we got bird flying so we can see that he is finally free if you can think of anything it would really be great thanks anyways.

No, like I said, for ALL the important characters. Icta and Yatri are obviously important characters.
There is an epilogue about Icta and Yatri indeed.


Did Yatri got buried in the end ? it seems after she got put in ice coffin, time skip 2 years, there is no mention of her anymore. Do her body still in ice coffin or they already buried her body and put a grave on it ?

and there is epilogue on Icta and Yatri at volume 14 ? seems kinda weird the covers of volume 14 was showing the Ikta , Yatri , Chamille(forgot her name), Haroma , Matthew , and Tornway. Do they tell us what happened to those two after they die ? their legacy or maybe their grave are close at each other ? and their friends visit their grave ?

 
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Pringer-x said:
Zefyris said:

No, like I said, for ALL the important characters. Icta and Yatri are obviously important characters.
There is an epilogue about Icta and Yatri indeed.


Did Yatri got buried in the end ? it seems after she got put in ice coffin, time skip 2 years, there is no mention of her anymore. Do her body still in ice coffin or they already buried her body and put a grave on it ?

and there is epilogue on Icta and Yatri at volume 14 ? seems kinda weird the covers of volume 14 was showing the Ikta , Yatri , Chamille(forgot her name), Haroma , Matthew , and Tornway. Do they tell us what happened to those two after they die ? their legacy or maybe their grave are close at each other ? and their friends visit their grave ?


AFAIK she was kept in ice, I don't remember her being buried later, but she's technically in a family grave or something like that IIRC.
I can't really explain you what is the epilogue on Icta and Yatri as this would require a whole vol worth of spoiler, and more exactly, a volume that was weirdly never spoiled (while a lot of stuff about Alderamin was) openly anywhere I've seen, and that is a game changer about the whole setting, character motivations and goals, and completely change the perspective about the end.
Without it, it's useless as there is no way you would be satisfied with the words I would say without the whole context leading to it. So I'm just going to repeat, all important characters have some kind of happy ending in this story.
It's too bad that this never got an english license since I could just say to read the book directly; as this is really the only way to understand the end.

Sorry that I can't be more explicit about it.
 
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