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revyHOLiC said: ap1001 said: Did he control Fiamma too?No, he controls Touma's life and action, at least 98% of it. He have monitors set up that spies on Touma 24/7. Where Touma goes, how he thinks, what kind of underwear he wears on that day, its all catalogued. Because of this, he controls Touma's life. Think Truman Show, only a lot more creepy and sinister. No. -------------------------- Fucking character limit.... |
WilliamOrwell said: Shit...I forgot his big the world is. After the shit pacing of Battle royale arc the pacing is getting good enough but still some people are criticizing the show. The show was made in a hurry.Be grateful that you got this show.Else you would have jumped straight to the New testament and couldn't understand a thing. Critics everywhere. For me after the be arc the site is coming to life. This is still a weak foundation for NT, I swear even if they animate NT, 90% anime only would still have no idea who is who nor understand thelema. |
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WilliamOrwell said: Why the fuck should we accept a less than mediocre adaptation?Shit...I forgot his big the world is. After the shit pacing of Battle royale arc the pacing is getting good enough but still some people are criticizing the show. The show was made in a hurry.Be grateful that you got this show.Else you would have jumped straight to the New testament and couldn't understand a thing. Critics everywhere. For me after the be arc the site is coming to life. No I am not grateful for getting a series that has grown worse instead of getting better, I am not gratefull for them ruining every great moment with non pause dialogue and awkward direction, ruining powers, ruining characterization, putting focus on the fanservice and comedy scenes instead of anything else. I wasnt waiting for an adaptation of the rest of OT just to get this shit.Just animating scenes of the novels means nothing to me if everything in those scenes is worse than adaptations of FSN 2006 and Umineko. At least those had the excuse that one had to deal with multiple routes and bad endings and the other had an overly complicated and unfinished source material. Here we have to deal with a totally incompetent director and a studio that is using this season as a cash grab and will ruin the other two adaptations as well. Honestly, if THIS is the prelude to NT then it is no different from ONLY adapting NT. |
ssjokgDec 1, 2018 8:46 AM
ssjokg said: WilliamOrwell said: Why the fuck should we accept a less than mediocre adaptation?Shit...I forgot his big the world is. After the shit pacing of Battle royale arc the pacing is getting good enough but still some people are criticizing the show. The show was made in a hurry.Be grateful that you got this show.Else you would have jumped straight to the New testament and couldn't understand a thing. Critics everywhere. For me after the be arc the site is coming to life. No I am not grateful for getting a series that has grown worse instead of getting better, I am not grate full for them ruining every great moment with non pause dialogue and awkward direction, ruining powers, ruining characterization, putting focus on the fanservice and comedy scenes instead of anything else. I wasnt waiting for an adaptation of the rest of OT just to get this shit.Just animating scenes of the novels means nothing to me if everything in those scenes is worse than adaptations of FSN 2006 and Umineko. At least them had the excuse that one had to deal with multiple routes and bad endings and the other had an overly complicated and unfinished source material. Here we have to deal with a totally incompetent director and a studio that i sing this season as a cash grab and will ruin the other two adaptations as well. Honestly, if THIS is the prelude to NT then it is no different from ONLY adapting NT. Pretty much this, I don't understand how comes people still able to defend this? Just because Acqua arc's pacing was somewhat decent is hardly an improvement as a adaptation if the other arcs is still handled poorly (I'm looking at you, Battle Royale arc). According to that logic, I should be grateful on how Negima!/UQ Holder! series getting an anime adaptations despite how the studios has been butchered that anime series for over 10 years. |
MahiaErebeaNegiDec 1, 2018 8:48 AM
| Now THIS is what I like to see, teamwork instead of having one person beat the bad guy. Also I love every moment with Kanzaki and Tsuchimakado xDDDD (Also please let Best Girl Misaka fight now TwT That moment between her and Touma was too cute) |
TokoyaDec 1, 2018 10:15 AM
Somecallme_kj said: I mean sure, I do recognize some people don't mind it being cut or just flat out hate it, but in this franchise it doesn't work because it's built on excessive exposition. BR was fun? Sure, to me it was a giant mess of an arc with little to no logic to wtf was going on.Botato said: I kinda have to disagree there. I really don't see how the last two episodes were any improvement, things were still happening too fast, characters still fell flat, lots of exposition was still cut, etc etc. I'd say they were actually worse due to having more QUALITY than previous arcs. exposition getting cut out sounds like a good thing. I mean alot of it you can kinda just figure out by context. like i just watched the battle royale arc and it was fast paced but fun. |
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| Finally more Touma and Misaka moments, I love these moments a lot. Aqua vs Kanzaki continutes and damn that was quite the fight. Kanzaki took some really heavy hits during that fight, Aqua is so god damn OP!! Itsuwa got a reality check on how much difference there is in power when it comes to the whole Amakusa group and Kanzaki fighting against Aqua solo. Touma just casually walking in on the fight, cancelling out Aqua's attack. Really nice (yet a bit predictable) end to the fight. Kanzaki is so adorable being teased like that! One crazy strong foe defeated and another one shows up! |
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| Was this stupid or was this very stupid Misaka saws Touma and just let him go to face Acqua and didn't even bother to assist him in baeting Acqua, Touma can't actually beat Acqua with some team work from others, so why the fuck didn't they do that before?????? And we didn't even see Kanzaki fully wearing that maid outfit. |
| Hopefully we dont get another Battle Royale arc in the remaining arcs because this is where the world and plot of Index starts to unravel. And if we get NT animated, it's important to put care into adapting the next arcs(especially the last science side arc). |
Tiau said: Shouldn't someone say the opposite though, OT14 and OT16 is fine, part of OT15 is cut, still overall a improvement than what we used to have in S1 and S2. It's pretty easy to see why someone would defend this, considering that overall it isn't really nearly as bad as people say it is Which part is the "improvement" that you referring may I ask? I think you should already aware one of the remaining 3 arcs (Most likely either British Royal Arc or DRAGON Arc) will be butchered as they have no enough episodes to adapt the things on it (If we follow the "3 episodes=1 volume" logic), I doubt they will adapt WW3 in less than 9 episodes. |
Tiau said: MahiaErebeaNegi said: Pretty much this, I don't understand how comes people still able to defend this? Just because Acqua arc's pacing was somewhat decent is hardly an improvement as a adaptation if the other arcs is still handled poorly (I'm looking at you, Battle Royale arc). According to that logic, I should be grateful on how Negima!/UQ Holder! series getting an anime adaptations despite how the studios has been butchered that anime series for over 10 years. Shouldn't someone say the opposite though, OT14 and OT16 is fine, part of OT15 is cut, still overall a improvement than what we used to have in S1 and S2. It's pretty easy to see why someone would defend this, considering that overall it isn't really nearly as bad as people say it is Are you fucking serious? S1 and S2 may not have been perfect adaptations but at least they were fun.Characters didnt have mouth diarrhea that made absolutely no sense, and the power effects had nice visuals. Touma's IB powers didnt do asspulls, character's thoughts made sense and fights werent stupid merry go arounds with re used 3 sec animation. Accel vs Touma may had been butchered but at least it had a nice flow. Hell if any anime only actually understood why Acqua survived the first the first Saint destroyer, or why the Amakusa were even able to pull that off. Did Knight Leader's words even make sense?We had no context and we are supposed to assume he is close with Aqua? Oh btw, Acqua still looks like a skinny bitch,dont even know how you think he looks buffed compared to S2. The Pope should be removed from the anime.We have no clear reason why he suddenly is opposing God's right seat, we dont know if he loves the people and to what extent the people love him. Oh but we have time for Fallen Angel costume.I am sure this is great for character and story development. |
| To be completely fair I didn't have a lot of problem with the animation in this episode What I did have a problem with was the transitions, especially Touma when he used Imagine breaker. He was supposed to come out of nowhere when every one thought it was lost and all but J. C just made it feel weird and flat. Also will anime onlys even understand the whole William Orwell thingy? I don't understand why they included the scene with him and the princess if they decided to skip the rest of his scenes because it doesn't make sense now. Overall even though it's disappointing, I don't think that this is the worst show of all time like half of this forum is implying. It's a mess but seeing the OT animated in this case is all I'm out after. If they do this to the NT though... Then we've got a problem |
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| I have a few problems with this episode: Touma casually walking in the middle to cancel Acqua’s attack without him realising. What is this garbage writing? Misaka seeing Touma and letting him go fight Acqua. She can see the condition he’s in, but didn't even bother to assist him in the fight. It’s just like Touma Vs Accelerator all over again. What the hell was Acqua’s goal? Who was the people in his backstory? I don’t really care. Every girl has to turn into some useless damsel in distress so the mighty Touma can save the day (except best girl Kanzaki ofc). Index is still as useless as ever. Easily one of the worst heroine in anime This arc was better than the trainwreck that was the last arc, but that’s not saying much since the bar was so low. I’d give this arc a 4/10. |
FlexstyleDec 2, 2018 5:20 AM
ssjokg said: Tiau said: Shouldn't someone say the opposite though, OT14 and OT16 is fine, part of OT15 is cut, still overall a improvement than what we used to have in S1 and S2. It's pretty easy to see why someone would defend this, considering that overall it isn't really nearly as bad as people say it is Are you fucking serious? I think he's pretty much serious at all. I'm still wonder which part of S3 is a "improvement" that he referring, if he said pacing was better than the previous two seasons then I have no idea what should I said anymore. ssjokg said: Touma's IB powers didnt do asspulls. Wait isn't most anime-only viewers are bitching at Touma being asspull during S2 running time? Well at least based on MAL discussion threads. ssjokg said: Oh btw, Acqua still looks like a skinny bitch,dont even know how you think he looks buffed compared to S2. Which I find it funny because Tanaka basically just reuses Acqua's character street from previous season and yet the anime somehow make him look even more skinny than he actually is in EP8&9 lol. To adds that, why the fuck Knight Leader look so young here (Not in flashback but in EP10 preview) when he's suppose to be around the same age as Acqua? ssjokg said: Oh but we have time for Fallen Angel costume.I am sure this is great for character and story development. Yeah this is indeed a "great" character development they has done. Instead of focusing on the Pope's character, they went off with the fan-service s**t and they don't even bother to shows up Kanzaki's face at the end. Fuck J.C and Nishikiori... seriously...... |
MahiaErebeaNegi said: Wait isn't most people are bitching at Touma being asspull during S2 running time? Well at least based on MAL discussion threads. I am referring to the part where Touma is holding, with one arm, Acqua's mace and Acqua together.All that weight.Because as we all know IB gives him supernatural strength. He even slightly pushes it up. He continues to hold them both till Itsuwa finishes him. And before any delusional fan rushes to say "that happens in the LN too", no you fucktard.In the LN he stops the attack and then falls back before Kanzaki restrains Acqua. Nishikiori took a metaphorical line and actually animated it. An extended version even. |
| i mean the fight between kanzaki and acqua was decent but im kinda confuse in the story in this particular ep |
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Ressonancee said: There was no story.i mean the fight between kanzaki and acqua was decent but im kinda confuse in the story in this particular ep Stuff without context happened and power of friendship won. |
ssjokg said: I am referring to the part where Touma is holding, with one arm, Acqua's mace and Acqua together.All that weight.Because as we all know IB gives him supernatural strength. He even slightly pushes it up. He continues to hold them both till Itsuwa finishes him. I see. Opps I misread your post sorry... Speak the truth I actually didn't notice about this until you points it out and I rewatched the scenes again...... Da fuck??? Did Nishikiori thought that Touma is a Superman or what? Not talk about how inaccurate the scene is compared to LN, how comes Touma is able to holds Acqua's mace for that long when he's fucking injured and he can't even holds Acqua's strength back in EP7??? It feel like as if I'm watching Fairy Tails or some friendship anime lol. |
MahiaErebeaNegiDec 2, 2018 6:59 AM
Tiau said: SS1 being only one episode in S2 Weren't SS1 have 2 episodes in S2? Also even if the previous arcs has been skipped a lot of staffs, at the very least you're still able to understand what's the story is telling even as a anime-only fans (I said this because back when I first watched the anime series, I actually understand how the story goes.) and the pacing doesn't feel too rushed, except for OT2 (Thanks to the dummy being removed from story), Vento arc (The pacing is almost as bad as Terra arc) and SS1 (They just basically adapts Hamazura's introduction in a rushed way and that's it). Tiau said: The Pope also have scenes showing that he doesn't actually want all this pointless violence I don't remember the Pope actually stated that he doesn't want the pointless in either this or S2, though. Tiau said: According to this, Touma actually did hold the mace right up until the end, course in the LN he was described as falling slightly, but the next line states "With Kamijou alone", Acqua literally was being held right until the end. But it doesn't help the translation for OT16 was a bumpy one afaik, it originally wasn't even translated from Japanese I thought "With Kamijou alone" was refers on how Touma cancelled Acqua's attack in that scene? Well based on the way the narrative written in OT16. I guess I really need to reread LNs if that's the case. Tiau said: Say what you want about OT15, yeah its fucked most particular in the middle however. OT14 and OT16 aren't "bad adaptations" in the slightest, to pretend that its the most absolute worst thing you've ever scene is full of shit considering that OT16 in particular got the same exact treatment OT1 got in that its nearly 1:1 If you exclude the fight scenes then yeah it's almost faithful as the original in this arc, I personally thought Terra arc is still a bit rushed even if you exclude the fight scenes. |
MahiaErebeaNegiDec 2, 2018 8:35 AM
| If you are serious then I have no words.Enjoy this trainwreck, that puts more emphasis on boobs and ass than actually explaining what happens. |
| I want to see Kanzaki in that outfit! :( |
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Tiau said: ssjokg said: If you are serious then I have no words.Enjoy this trainwreck, that puts more emphasis on boobs and ass than actually explaining what happens. If you say so, I mean so far people are actually complaining that it’s too much exposition. I really have no clue as to how one could be confused by this episode. They even explained Acqua’s “gimmick” Sure it isnt like everyone is complaining that the season doesnt make sense....right? |
ahrrhd153 said: I understand Touma's right hand stopping magic-related aspect of Aqua's mace, but how did he managed to stop that huge momentum Aqua produced with his 5m long metallic mace? Shouldn't the weight + momentum alone kill, or at least damage Touma? If the mace itself was wholly made with magic, than the mace would be shattered once Touma touched it with his right hand, but it didn't.. Which means the mace itself is not magical If the momentum itself was created by magic then no.But the weight alone of the mace should have affected him.Which it did in the LN.Here he even lifts the mace AND Acqua. |
| I still have absolutely no idea what's going on. Also, they took a little too long to get Acqua hit by the final shot. I swear that was way too long for Touma to be just standing there holding up the weight of the huge ass umbrella sword thingy and a full grown man while he is injured. |
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| oh man I wanna see Kanzaki in ero maid uniform! well I guess they defeated Acqua the moment Touma showed-up huh...the power of teamwork! 5/5. |
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| If Kanzaki didn't realize the thing about the saint-killer... and if Mikoto went with Touma, there's a significant chance she would have died. |
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| *takes a deep breath before starting the episode* Within 7 seconds of starting, already thrown derpy faces of Kanzaki fighting. *sighing intensifies* I'm not sure if they got someone new to direct this episode but the amounts of use of zoom in/out repeat shots was atrocious and so badly unnecessary. That transition scene of Touma walking away from Misaka, the one before the silly fading effect one, that was probably one of the worst transitions I've seen ever. Found the scene where Acqua was spinning around Kanzaki hilarious. Touma's right hand negates gravity and force now apparently. |
| so like the fight ends with toumas end...hmm the final right seat revealed...the humor in the end is priceless... still Iwant him to end up with biribiri |
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Sagnik1004 said: Tiau said: 1 question. Will we go back to the science arcs anytime soon coz I fucking hate the magic arcs. They are fucking boring.Only thing I can really say here is that she definitely couldn't have done anything to Acqua, who is effectively a double saint in power infact I'd say she be at even more of a disadvantage than the Amakusa since she is ignorant of the magic side. Though she did help out last season and does her fair share of helping here and there later on. There's one more science arc will come in the later episodes (Presumed be around EP15 or EP16), but the arc itself is short and will most likely be butchered as hard as Battle Royale Arc due to not enough episodes to adapt, and also the last arc of this season will be about magic again. Just hope they won't screws up the last arc as hard as Battle Royale Arc, although I still don't think 8/9 episodes will enough to adapt that arc. |
| Not a bad episode. The fight scene was great. Really liked the scene with Touma and Misaka. |
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| Strange that Touma didn't want Misakas help. Everyone else is helping and she's stronger than most. |
| Wait what? Since when did Touma have a Physics Canceller in his right arm? Do things like momentum forget to work on Touma because he's the protagonist? And then the leader of the RHotG attacked the Pope?! Why?! Man, I really don't understand HALF of the power dynamics in this universe... |
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