Sword Art Online: Alicization Episode 7 Discussion

JudoJD said:
This episode...mmmmhhhh.. I understand a lot of TV anime are written in a way to let viewers in Japan who may have missed past episodes hop on and understand what's going on but it makes the dialogue (not that well written already to be frank with the exception of ep 2 which was baseline decent) especially braindead. (Hey..lemme remind you about that thing you already know over and over and monologue it to myself because of how braindead our audience is...btw.. You're supposed to care about these other characters we threw at you btw)

Now returning to SAO...The more I think about it.. I'm starting to feel like I understand why a lot of the anime community (mostly those "more experienced" with anime not the newcomers) were seeing how bad and dumb the writing in this series is.
I can't keep shaking the feeling of "that's stupid".....wow.... I actually thought this ish was (ashamed to admit ) kinda good when I started watching anime..in fact I hate to admit it's what got me into anime
Idk...already know I have bad taste in anime but..but...I actually thought this was kinda good lol..I'm sorry it's just frustrating to think about...It's like you really need some really (like REALLY) high level of BS tolerance to keep enjoying SAO ... I can't just turn my brain off and not think about what's going on anymore

(and yes...yes... I've read the novels...somehow)

Gildesh said:
Bullshit is hereby legalised - you can override stats without a miracle plot twist now.
Free Aincrad style sword acquired.

AdrianRubinsky said:
I liked this episode. However, I didn't like the whole "willpower can override stats" thing. That's pretty much giving an early warning that Kirito might win due to an asspull in the next episode.

Pedram said:

First one is actually major plot which will be the backbone of Accel World, and it's someone everyone here can use, not only Kirito. it was explained better in actual action in novel but simplified here in some word.

2nd one the Sword is just a Divine Sword and nothing to do with Aincrad, and the reason the guy was giving it away for free was because he was just happy to be able to create a Divine Sword and then have that Divine Sword that he made used by someone worthy.
Reminder that only Integrity Knights have Divine Sword and there was only a few limited divine sword in the world like Eugeo's and all had a protector dragon or something.



they said it coz it's how the whole UnderWorld works, and not how "Kirito can overcome things"
as i mentioned before, many many ppl in UnderWorld Good and bad, enemy or friend, can use this. also this probably is reference into Accel World's system later on ( it's 2026, Accel World happen 2042 i think )

caio_brb said:


You don't need to do such thing. I watched more anime and read more manga than most of those people and I still enjoy SAO. Anime is a subjective thing, it's for you to enjoy and have fun, not to be overcritical and feeling down for liking what you do. There's a reason for why this series is popular in Japan and outside of it and it's because people like it and don't have fear to admit.

Takao_21 said:




It’s more of a shame that people feel the need to feel ashamed over what they view and enjoy in entertainment lmao. I started watching anime constantly and on daily basis 3 years ago, and Used to watch shounen anime when i was a kid (DBZ and captain tsubasa), yet I still enjoy find enjoyment with SAO and like to watch it, just saying, and that’s my take. I echo what the person above me said.

Pedram said:



Ignore this guy, Saw him a bunch of time before in old EPs discussion, he just talk hate. it's quite funny tbh :D
I can't help but smile reading his comments, he seems like some identity crisis-ed young person who care too much about internet opinion and think hating SAO is the cool thing :D

he is not even complaining about things that is actually bad about SAO, he talk about simple things that is pretty normal and usual and think he should be ashamed for watching this :D

I'm 25 and I been watching anime since 10, Old shits like Funny Face High school ( made in 1986 ) and Ramiku Takahashi's all work ! that one with girl named Lum and Maison Ikkoku and Ranma and Inuyasha and I pretty much watched hundreds of anime since then. and Read many manga and novel.

But SAO is still one of my favorite. it's only a small number of loader minority haters and a large number of new anime fans who actually watched those hate video on SAO that develop the mindset that SAO is very trash and you should be ashamed to watch it lol

TodAboT said:

Just because it's somehow connected to Accel World (which is the "sequel"), doesn't make it less stupid.
And Accel World is also a bad anime.

"Guys, shonen bad guys could also have the power of friendship, so anything can happen"

TodAboT said:

If you have seen so many anime, why do you only have Alicization on you profile?

Pedram said:


hmm guess i explained my point badly,
What i meant when i mentioned Accel World was to say Author did no just invent this out of his ass to create a cheat for Kirito, it's his whole idea about his whole sci-fi world he created.

And you bet you ass if the enemy in Fairy Tail could also use Power of Friendship then the whole Fairy Tail story would end up differently lol

This whole underworld is a world in STL, it's not a One and Zero World, and it's connected to the souls, so Will power and mental power can make your States weaker or stronger depend on your mindset.
this will happen for EVERYONE, Good or bad ! Enemy or Friend ! if you can't accept this, then this is not for you, but I find it a nice concept and plot point and enjoyed the novel when i read it.

Pedram said:


coz i don't care ? lol i never rate stuff, who care. that EP1 of Alicization was a mistake and i only did it for EP1 anyway, it was coz a retard review it at 1/10 before anime even start airing and said some random hate about Old seasons and it made me impulse and give Alicization a 10 Rating lol

fortunately the staff in MAL are not stupid and deleted his review later lol I guess i might just delete my rating as well then, let me see if i can do it hmmm

TodAboT said:

... but that doesn't change how ridiculous it is...

What I meant to say about the "shonen bad guy" phrase, is that it's just dumb to show that villains also have the same thing, since the main character will always be better at that one thing.
That's how he asspulled his way out of the original SAO, after all.
This is just an asspull from the future, basically.

TodAboT said:

... but that doesn't change how ridiculous it is...

What I meant to say about the "shonen bad guy" phrase, is that it's just dumb to show that villains also have the same thing, since the main character will always be better at that one thing.
That's how he asspulled his way out of the original SAO, after all.
This is just an asspull from the future, basically.

Pedram said:


but this is how the story is bro, I found it cool, you find it asspull.
but imo, if you find this asspull, u can find an asspull in almost any popular anime :D
Be it the Big 3 or be it less popular ones, almost all of them have some form of it.

anyway, I see no farther point in our argument lol we are just disagreeing on some plot point i guess.

Thanks for the info, just deleted it, but No, it was not your review, it was BEFORE even first EP air, that was why i was mad lol. like WTF it's not even aired why he can even review ?!?!

but later i figure out the reason was the first EP Was aired in a event before TV release, so they opened up the Rating ! but they removed the reviews, and it seems they remove ALL reviews, both 1/10 and 10/10 or between, seems like they accept review after half the season is out ? no sure.

Takao_21 said:
@Pedram

I don’t mind the sao forums. Too many salt to enjoy and laughable comments, like “the I’m ashamed to admit I liked it”. I’m not a fanboi here, and I don’t like when people are overly defensive/offensive about a series and can’t engage in a calm argumentative discussion without needless bashing and shoving their opinions down people’a throat whether it’s hate or liking the series.

Btw about the whole idea of cognition and confidence being capable of affecting one’s power. Opinion here. It’s not something new in anime/manga. I think many are mistaking it for an asspull. An asspull is when the author creates something out of thin air which has not been explained or foreshadowed within the plot or explained in world’s rules in order to advance the plot at a crucial moment usually. However, funny enough, this idea here is setting the rules themselves for the world and foreshadowing/explaining it as well as applying it to everyone, not just kirito. I thought Liena was a good example of this. She has immense confidence after training for years in swordsmanship, but when it comes to fighting the first seat, her swordsmanship falters and she loses power. That was a good example of its application. I can fault the show when it decides to not conform to this rule. Just my 2 cents on the matter.

Pedram said:


exactly man, I'm with u on both ur point. it's funny how they think it's bad to like a show xD there is just too many of them are bent on having to say "NO ! I'm not a SAO Fanboy ! don't hate me ! It's just ... maybe coz it was the first anime i ever watch ! i just like to watch it !"

Also about Asspull too, I completely agree, you can call this plot point something that you don't like.
but you can't call it any asspull of random decision author made to give a power up to the MC !
coz it's being mentioned as how things work here and being foreshadowed and even explained to us here and there. and its gonna be in effect for plot not only for this, but for the whole story and for everyone in it.

Pedram said:


exactly man, I'm with u on both ur point. it's funny how they think it's bad to like a show xD there is just too many of them are bent on having to say "NO ! I'm not a SAO Fanboy ! don't hate me ! It's just ... maybe coz it was the first anime i ever watch ! i just like to watch it !"

Also about Asspull too, I completely agree, you can call this plot point something that you don't like.
but you can't call it any asspull of random decision author made to give a power up to the MC !
coz it's being mentioned as how things work here and being foreshadowed and even explained to us here and there. and its gonna be in effect for plot not only for this, but for the whole story and for everyone in it.


Edit about above post @TodAboT Oh so that's how it is it make sense then lol. Thanks for info, maybe coz this is a 48~52 EP season, u need 10~12 EP then lol idk xD

Mattinator95 said:



I think this one should surffice.

https://youtu.be/MZffdSoK_3g


This one was before the epiosde started so It may not mention the flashback. But should give you the general idea on what was missing .....

tambi33 said:
No. God no. Why. Ending this episode on a cliffhanger.
I'll be writhing until next week.
Aaarrrggghh!

Good episode though. Is liena gong to be a part of Kirito's harem ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Fappa said:


They didn't outright skip it but referred back to it through a series of flashbacks. That entire chapter overall had nothing that cannot be down somewhere else, may it be "that character" or a more in depth insight into duels. It's cut fat that adds to the enjoyment yes but it's noting absolutely vital.

They clearly are forced to cut some corners in order to make the parts of the story that need to be adapted slowly and precisely work. If that means Zakkaria gets cut, then be my guest.

Ventus_S said:
I want to ask LN novel readers, how much contents did they skip?

I was hoping to see the actual adventure to expand the world of this new world, as well as seeing characters progressively getting stronger, as well as learning the mechanic of this world through showing during the adventure. Instead , we got an exposition dump, have a quick timeskip and characters become op from the get go, and all that's left is to show off how amazing Kirito is by dominating everyone else. (yawn)

Tbh I am disappointed.. (Even if I never read the LN before)

Ventus_S said:


Tbh this setting is bit baffling to me too.
It just give reasons for Kirito's bullshit moment later on cuz "You have to be overconfident/ full of yourself" to become op.

Tokoya said:
Were this info and characters worth knowing?

TodAboT said:
I'm honestly surprised that people are saying this show improved, when the show still has the main problems from the other seasons.

Time skips (although these are necessary now because time flows faster, character development doesn't happen).
Exposition dumps.
Exposition dumps of things we have already seen (We already knew how the basics work from episodes 2-4).
Exposition dumps of things so obvious it's like they are explaining it to a toddler ("if you're low level you can only do simple spells, but if you're high level you can do more powerful spells").
Outright dumb writing. You can become many times more powerful if you believe in yourself? Even to the point where you could rewrite the laws of that world? Come on.
Constant Kirito Dick-Sucking in the form of words (this won't happen if the character is evil or an antagonist).

TodAboT said:

Exposition dumps of things so obvious it's like they are explaining it to a toddler ("if you're low level you can only do simple spells, but if you're high level you can do more powerful spells").

-Riptide- said:

Liena-senpai top tier waifu BTW

sgs2008 said:
Uhhmm why isnt Kirito more worried about spending so much time in there. Even if he knows less time is spent in the real world he has still experienced 2 years away from asuna, his friends and family, he doesnt seem at all disturbed by this.

Minar-kyun said:
Two year time skip huh. Looks like a lot of stuff changed.
I'm hyped for next weeks duel.

Mattinator95 said:


2 years for him . Only 18 hours for the people in the Real world

Mattinator95 said:


2 years for him . Only 18 hours for the people in the Real world