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Oct 28, 2018 1:03 PM
#51
Because it's cool and everybody loves it lol |
Oct 28, 2018 1:05 PM
#52
Pullman said: romagia said: it covers a niche you dont see in western animation Only reasonable answer. All the generic 'sex sells' or 'anime fans are male' stuff are just kinda bullshit tbh, empty phrases that aren't really representative of reality. At least half the fandom is female and tons of ecchi series don't sell well at all. That's also nonsense. Have you seen these armors in western fantasy games? Males torsos are sometimes naked and women often wear these who-needs-to-protect-inner-organs-armors. |
Oct 28, 2018 2:58 PM
#53
because , in japan, anime and manga are in everywhere, and they want to atract the all kind of people, since young to adult... they do a lot of echii works because it gives them money ... which i don't agree... if we want to see something sexual, we watch hentai or other things, but in some animes, it's totaly awful... There are a lot of echii in the shounen, because they want to cativate younger people, and i could tell you about the other demographys, all of them have echii... and that is why is popular. EVERYONE DOES IT |
Oct 28, 2018 3:35 PM
#54
Maneki-Mew said: Pullman said: romagia said: it covers a niche you dont see in western animation Only reasonable answer. All the generic 'sex sells' or 'anime fans are male' stuff are just kinda bullshit tbh, empty phrases that aren't really representative of reality. At least half the fandom is female and tons of ecchi series don't sell well at all. That's also nonsense. Have you seen these armors in western fantasy games? Males torsos are sometimes naked and women often wear these who-needs-to-protect-inner-organs-armors. lol not sure what this random whataboutism has to do with the topic at hand? |
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Oct 28, 2018 4:03 PM
#55
Well, it means that the sex sells-phrase is actually somewhat true. Even if there are more popular or better-selling genres, there must be a reason for the few ecchi and fanservice-heavy anime every season, and it means that fanservice and ecchi aren't anime-specific. |
Oct 28, 2018 4:13 PM
#56
Maneki-Mew said: Well, it means that the sex sells-phrase is actually somewhat true. Even if there are more popular or better-selling genres, there must be a reason for the few ecchi and fanservice-heavy anime every season, and it means that fanservice and ecchi aren't anime-specific. not really, just because some sexualized stuff sells doesn't mean 'sex sells' as a general rule is true. You need more than some random examples to back up that generalized claim. And you need to prove that the stuff that sells doesn't just happen to have sexy content and people actually buy it for other reasons, cause in that case it wouldn't be the sex doing the selling. Anime has a ton of niche genres which survive off a few hundred or a few thousand paying customers. It's a miniscule minority of people who actually spends money on those series. Hardly enough to argue that 'sex sells' in any kind of universal way just based on the continued existence of a super small niche fandom in Japan. The contradiction to 'sex sells' isn't 'sex never sells' but simply 'sex sells sometimes like anything else does, not having any kind of special position or being automatically successful without having to consider anything else'. |
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Oct 29, 2018 3:51 AM
#57
Because people make ecchi anime popular |
Oct 29, 2018 3:57 AM
#58
why is my peepee all big and hard? SERIOUSLY I MUST KNOW TELL ME |
Oct 29, 2018 4:11 AM
#59
Reybun said: seasonals blu-rays and DVDs are shows directed to the fujoshi audience like Free! and Idolish7. We call thoses series sexist garbage And are only aimed at ugly/fat basement dweller SJW/CPU’s @cherrylover |
Oct 29, 2018 4:18 AM
#60
ecchiharemgeek said: We call thoses series sexist garbage And are only aimed at ugly/fat basement dweller SJW/CPU’s @cherrylover I thought if her when I was watching an ecchi series and a guy with a big sixpack stepped out of the showing with a conveniently place pot covering his vitals. I laughed but I wonder what she'd think of manservice? |
Oct 29, 2018 4:25 AM
#61
QPR said: ecchiharemgeek said: We call thoses series sexist garbage And are only aimed at ugly/fat basement dweller SJW/CPU’s @cherrylover I thought if her when I was watching an ecchi series and a guy with a big sixpack stepped out of the showing with a conveniently place pot covering his vitals. I laughed but I wonder what she'd think of manservice? She does what every CPU does She downplay its exists to push her agenda |
Oct 29, 2018 4:27 AM
#62
I don't understand how people can find the women/girls in ecchi hot. They are portrayed as whores, sluts, bimbos etc. I am attracted to girls who don't show off their breasts, ass etc. Baically girls who act like dudes but are still pretty (doesn't look like men) Korra for example... her muscles are hot af. |
Oct 29, 2018 4:30 AM
#63
First of all ecchi isn't even a real genre and very undefined on MAL. Second, it is not that popular. And third, for the same reason why Megan Fox in Transformers shows her ass to the audience for a long time. Because sex sells. I personally like fanservice in anime, so I like "ecchi", whatever the definition for it is. In the same way that a photo of a woman can be nice to look at, a drawing of a woman can be nice to look at as well. |
Oct 29, 2018 4:38 AM
#64
DualSabers said: Though, I have watched a few anime that fall under the ecchi genre. I mainly didn't consider watching it because it was ecchi. I see people obsessed with it so I wanted to know why is it so appealing? If you can't get it watch it. That's it we take pleasure from what's behind the screen ( speaking of experience). |
Oct 29, 2018 4:47 AM
#65
-Funland- said: Arkab said: Let me give you a hint: it's not for their plots. Not true. I actually enjoyed DxD for both the ecchi and the plot. Me too. But that's like an exception to the rule. |
Oct 29, 2018 4:57 AM
#66
Oct 29, 2018 5:08 AM
#67
prob everything said here as for me, I like ecchi because it has the gags which I always laugh at and I also like anime tummies/legs |
Oct 29, 2018 5:08 AM
#68
Think that's obvious, 2d>fucking 3d A lot of people watch anime only for the 2d sexy bodies |
Oct 29, 2018 9:35 AM
#69
Because have big tits, and the japaneses love big tits. |
Oct 29, 2018 1:17 PM
#70
Oct 29, 2018 1:54 PM
#71
Reybun said: Krayken said: Reybun said: Absolutely bullshit answers. Some of the top selling seasonals blu-rays and DVDs are shows directed to the fujoshi audience like Free! and Idolish7. You said it yourself, its directed at fujoshi audience. Ecchi is directed at males. And said males prefer watching literally anything else. First off, where is the source? I'm not believing any data without it. Second, that data seems to show only those who participated in the survey. Not a population. 3rd, I'm in the wrong when it comes to Ecchi genre being popular. Regardless, the reason why people even watch this is because they're males, and its specifically target towards people who like that stuff, you definitely win here when you say "any other male prefers watching anything else". I don't have data to back up the numbers on this, but even people who enjoy Ecchi are still a big crowd. In a sense it the niche itself could be considered popular due to the sheer numbers. It all goes back to people just being MALE. Plus, it's not like anyone said ALL males like this shit. |
KraykenOct 29, 2018 1:59 PM
warning this idiot is a professional retard |
Oct 29, 2018 2:12 PM
#72
It's more like a sub-genre or "theme" of comedy actually, although you can also find it paired with action or romance as well. Thus generates 5 possibilities. You watched it for the action, you watched for the romance, you watched it for the comedy, you watched it for the T&A, or my choice; you watch it because you love all or any of these things combined. |
KruszerOct 29, 2018 2:17 PM
Oct 29, 2018 3:48 PM
#73
Why do humans need oxygen to survive? |
Oct 29, 2018 11:06 PM
#76
Because watching a generic mc get his face squished between titties is entertaining. It's great fap material, plain and simple. It's disgusting and pretty absurd. But that's the anime community for ya. |
Oct 30, 2018 7:53 AM
#77
If you look at the popularity of ecchi anime and compare it to action, comedy, romance, school, supernatural, fantasy, adventure, sci-fi and shounen and even slice of life you will understand that these genres (tags not genres actually) are more popular so I don't know how you say ecchi is popular but I think because of its active fanbase you think their anime are popular |
Oct 30, 2018 11:09 AM
#78
Oct 30, 2018 11:11 AM
#79
Detective1412 said: Because most of Anime fan is male. There you go. Pretty much this. The vastly male target audience eats any cookie-cutter ecchi up due to the rampant oversexualization of women of course. Nothing new here. |
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Oct 30, 2018 2:48 PM
#80
For the same reason 50 shades of grey is famous. If you have a good story(it can be a comedy, drama, action,romance...) and you add a touch of boobs and asses yo have the perfect combination. |
Oct 30, 2018 3:07 PM
#81
Men are more sex driven than women... |
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Oct 30, 2018 3:12 PM
#82
Coz it's like the only thing that keeps us watchin' |
Oct 30, 2018 3:23 PM
#83
Reybun said: Krayken said: Reybun said: Absolutely bullshit answers. Some of the top selling seasonals blu-rays and DVDs are shows directed to the fujoshi audience like Free! and Idolish7. You said it yourself, its directed at fujoshi audience. Ecchi is directed at males. And said males prefer watching literally anything else. I think this statistic is meaningless if you don't provide the female counterpart. If the statistic is similar in terms of what people watch, then gender has no correlation between whether people watch ecchi/ hentai or not. |
Oct 30, 2018 4:13 PM
#84
Some people just want to watch the world turn blue. |
Oct 30, 2018 4:32 PM
#85
Because it's erotic I guess, you don't see these kinds of things in other medias. You have porn to FAP and this, that in my opinion it's just a way to fill the fantasy of finding the girl of your dreams I guess... and to see some panty shots with camel toes. Erotic and sexual are similar but different, sexual is direct and without imagination, instead erotism stimulates your imagination and plays with some different fantasies. Btw, erotic photos also have kinda the same effect as ecchi anime but it's more sexual. At least for me watching photos of hot naked girls triggers different feeling than the one of a girl being pounded hard af. |
Oct 30, 2018 4:40 PM
#86
DualSabers said: Though, I have watched a few anime that fall under the ecchi genre. I mainly didn't consider watching it because it was ecchi. I see people obsessed with it so I wanted to know why is it so appealing? Though, I have read a few topics that fall under the troll genre. I mainly didn't consider reading it because it was bait. I see people obsessed with it so I wanted to know why is it so appealing? |
Oct 30, 2018 4:50 PM
#87
Honestly I don't get the obsession with Ecchi and LEWD,..... and NSFW |
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Oct 30, 2018 4:50 PM
#88
We don't get enough of males trying to be sexy we need more of that |
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Oct 30, 2018 5:03 PM
#89
I swear these are cliche or troll questions. Why would mild nudity, perverted shows be popular among a fanbase of horny virgin males? |
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Oct 30, 2018 5:07 PM
#90
This forum is mostly troll topics, brother man. |
Oct 30, 2018 5:18 PM
#91
That's a myth though. I've seen more shounenfags than ecchifags irl and in most social media. The longest running anime aren't ecchi ones, yet the only thing that sells the most of ecchi are the figures, posters and any other merch but the anime/manga. It's so annoying when "self-conscious of the market/society", "elitist" or "revolutionary" dudes who complain about a season having most ecchi anime than your classic 5-cour battle shounen or your "genre-deconstructing" show. I'm 2 seasons behind so there's not that much base for me to talk about recent anime, yet many times I enter see a similar thread... So had to talk. |
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Oct 30, 2018 6:40 PM
#92
Ecchi isn't very popular though CherryLover said: Detective1412 said: Because most of Anime fan is male. There you go. Pretty much this. The vastly male target audience eats any cookie-cutter ecchi up due to the rampant oversexualization of women of course. Nothing new here. Generalizations aren't a very healthy thing for anyone especially if you make it based on gender I thought you would be aware of that fact. OP's whole premise though is pretty incorrect as most series that focus only on the ecchi aren't highly rated nor watched. In order to get popular with that aspect you need something else like food wars with its shonen tournament style storytelling combined with cooking battles that have some actual information behind them. Most guys (and honestly anime fans in general) are going to drift towards heavy action series for the most part as it is. Fanservice isn't going to be main selling point for most. Ecchi series have dedicated and loud fans but honestly compared to what most mainstream fans watch it is a really small minority. |
Oct 30, 2018 7:26 PM
#93
It...doesn't. Putting aside the whole "it's not a genre" thing because that's tiring to talk about and is ultimately just really nitpicky. It isn't, though, just to make note of that. Ecchi is not a genre. Sex sells is a myth. It's been debunked and talked about over and over again as a myth, academic studies and research into marketing shit all over it on the reg, but in this pane of the internet it's basically treated as a concrete absolute, usually as a direct result to project some sort of horny, drooling teenager persona onto the audience, or some mustache-twirling venture capitalist level of intent onto a creator. And yes, that does kind of annoy me. I don't really understand why people so adamantly press it or get derisive when people kind of say it's bullshit, but...there's also always the news articles this very site puts out of best selling manga/LNs (and I think DVDs/BDs?) and ecchi series are very rarely on there, if you'll ever take the time to look. They rarely get multiple seasons, and significantly more often than not we have to drop a series where the adaptation ends or go delve into the manga, if we can even find a translated version of it in the first place. The works are generally pretty clearly low budget to boot, often having pretty lackluster animation and stylization, outside of the ecchi scenes (if we're lucky). It is invested in as a low-budget series, they very much more often than not make the return of a low-level investment, and, most of all, we're getting one or two TV series a season at this point, out of a field of around 60 per seaon or so. Great ecchi manga like Yuragi-sou are getting closer and closer to being pushed out of WSJ's lineup the more that more romcom/less ecchi harem series like Bokuben compete with them. Ecchi series aren't money trees, and I feel like the most rudimentary level of looking into that claim just shatters that illusion pretty handily. I really do hate that it seems to be a consensus. We're a niche. A niche with pretty definable internal literacy compared to the majority of other niche anime fanbases in the current environment of the fandom at large, with some of the largest and most accessible clubs and fan-centered communities you can find on this site when it comes to audiences for specific types of anime, but we're not some big, hulking menace, looming over anime and about to take it over and conquer it for our own. I can kinda see why we're easy to distinguish and pick out of a crowd, and how things like that can make us seem louder and more prominent than we really are, but I do think that there's always a ton of overstating present and it just wears on my nerves too much sometimes ._. I've argued on this side of things for a couple of years now, I administrate a club with 10,000+ members surrounding these topics with a pretty large and active discord server to watch over to boot. I interact with this sort of subfandom on a daily basis, in an overseer role for the little sect of the niche that I work for at that. I see the same faces almost every day, I see the types of things they like and how they respond to things, and I see that...new ones don't pop up on the regular and they often very directly seek us out. I also see that the ones who argue for these things and are known as being fans of these things tends to be a relatively small but vocal group of the same few, whereas those against can operate more as a revolving door, to the point where there's only a handful of people I've ran into and argued with directly on this topic specifically more than two or three times. We're...not much, really. Ecchi doesn't sell better than any other type of series - I'd argue that, for the most part, we tend to do worse in this department, also noting that there's a few that have rose to some degree of relevance and recognition outside of the niche, but the vast majority have to be dug up and can be kind of obscure. A lot of OVAs, a lot of TV series that have low ratings and only a few thousand members. So it's fine. Really. I think that stepping back from a lot of the pitfalls of these topics and the discussion surrounding it, and trying to actually assess the situation, rather than shitting out the most surface level take imaginable, would go a long way for all of us, inside and outside of the niche ._. |
ManabanOct 30, 2018 7:56 PM
Oct 30, 2018 7:33 PM
#94
danilitoleon said: The longest running anime aren't ecchi ones, https://myanimelist.net/anime/966/Crayon_Shin-chan |
Oct 31, 2018 12:02 AM
#95
Everyone is entitled to like what they want. If that's what you enjoy, then go ahead and watch it. I mean, everyone has a different reason to why they watch a specific genre. Whenever it's for the story, or the characters, don't let opinions stop you from doing what you want. |
Oct 31, 2018 12:11 AM
#96
This is bait. Everyone knows why it's so popular. It's like asking why people watch hentai. edit: i the one who says it bait falls for the bait |
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Oct 31, 2018 5:33 AM
#97
ecchiharemgeek said: danilitoleon said: The longest running anime aren't ecchi ones, https://myanimelist.net/anime/966/Crayon_Shin-chan MAL pls. Also who'd get horny or buy shin-chan merch because of hot girls? :^) |
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Oct 31, 2018 5:45 AM
#98
mhkr said: If you look at the popularity of ecchi anime and compare it to action, comedy, romance, school, supernatural, fantasy, adventure, sci-fi and shounen and even slice of life you will understand that these genres (tags not genres actually) are more popular so I don't know how you say ecchi is popular but I think because of its active fanbase you think their anime are popular It's not enen the fanbase, it's the hate for it that's popular. |
Nov 1, 2018 1:21 PM
#99
scruffs said: mhkr said: If you look at the popularity of ecchi anime and compare it to action, comedy, romance, school, supernatural, fantasy, adventure, sci-fi and shounen and even slice of life you will understand that these genres (tags not genres actually) are more popular so I don't know how you say ecchi is popular but I think because of its active fanbase you think their anime are popular It's not enen the fanbase, it's the hate for it that's popular. TY. People simply love to point out how much they hate it. Same thing as SAO tbh |
Nov 1, 2018 1:28 PM
#100
Because some people evidently don't yet realize free streaming porn sites like xHamster and Motherless exist. |
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