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hazarddex said: Piromysl said: Ok, now I realise why I hate Accelerator so damn much. He could easily obliterate Frog-doctor with is abilities and he perfectly knows that, but what he decided to do? Like true edgelord - to threaten him with a freaking handgun. I almost cut myself on that edge. accelerator didn't want to kill the doctor and his ability has a disabling device on his choker now it was shown in season 2 he can't threaten the doctor with his power without it getting disabled. Dude what?the doctor has no power over his choker. even if he does he cant even tell if Accel came close to him or left,what makes you think he can react and shut down his connection to the Network? |
hazarddex said: Dude do you seriously see no issues with the anime so far?food for thought.[/spoiler] |
ssjokg said: hazarddex said: Dude do you seriously see no issues with the anime so far?food for thought.[/spoiler] not enough to literally burn down the forums no. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
hazarddex said: ssjokg said: Dude do you seriously see no issues with the anime so far? not enough to literally burn down the forums no. They wanted to cut this and Dragon.What makes you think they know what they are doing? |
Tiau said: ssjokg said: I know. The difference is that Railgun S showed how the characters are thinking and this ep failed at even the basics of communicating their intentions. How are we supposed to know that Mugino is antagonistic a hell? In Railgun she literally sends the others away because she wants to hunt the #3 alone, to show off. Did we get any of that here where it is supposed to be her first appearance? I am expecting later characters deaths to have 0 impact for people. Oh wait we cant even tell when they kill a charcter since they didnt even imply that Oyafune would survive the gunshot. So even if a character is literally ripped in pieces tehy may show up later because FUCK explaining shit in this series. You're not supposed to know anything about Mugino in that regard until shit hits the fan yes, did you read the novel or are you just talking about how S made them look? Except that you do get to know them before shit hits the fan. All I got here is that Mugino is easily annoyed by Hamazura.There was 0 interaction between the girls apart from sharing info. |
one person did, but didn't. but saying "its ruined forever burn down the forums." honestly if they cut out the following i will be completely on border with you, but until then this episode had 0 fan service despite what one person claims. sure its not every single little sentience line for line in battle royal, but nor is it taking out every single important aspect. there are honestly hundreds of worse ways they could have adapted . also idk what your talking about frenda had little to no appearances in the battle royal. maybe your confusing the moments that happen with kinuhata saiai that don't happen until OT 19. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
hazarddex said: one person did, but didn't. but saying "its ruined forever burn down the forums." honestly if they cut out the following i will be completely on border with you, but until then this episode had 0 fan service despite what one person claims. sure its not every single little seance in battle royal, but nor is it taking out every single important aspect. I dont care about the fanservice in a series that i supposed to have even if it serves nothing. It took out the most important aspect.Making sense of what is going on. Who is who, where each one is heading, WHy they are doing what they are doing. SCHOOL,MEMBER and BLOCK are operating behind the scenes so we arent suppose dto now yet, but we dont even know why ITEM and GROUP act the way they do.Why was Unabara in that house?Why did Tsuchimikado attack that store?Why is ITEM taking action when they get nothing from it? |
ssjokg said: Not knowing where this is going(end plans) and having no idea what they are doing(why people react) are two different things. If you havent watched Railgun S you have no idea why Mugino wants to go after SCHOOL and Kakine. I have seen both series of Railgun and remember some of the characters but that was like 3 years ago. There's is way too much going on in this series which is why people are not happy with this episode. |
ssjokg said: hazarddex said: one person did, but didn't. but saying "its ruined forever burn down the forums." honestly if they cut out the following i will be completely on border with you, but until then this episode had 0 fan service despite what one person claims. sure its not every single little seance in battle royal, but nor is it taking out every single important aspect. I dont care about the fanservice in a series that i supposed to have even if it serves nothing. It took out the most important aspect.Making sense of what is going on. Who is who, where each one is heading, WHy they are doing what they are doing. SCHOOL,MEMBER and BLOCK are operating behind the scenes so we arent suppose dto now yet, but we dont even know why ITEM and GROUP act the way they do.Why was Unabara in that house?Why did Tsuchimikado attack that store?Why is ITEM taking action when they get nothing from it? i don't care about the fanservice either, but we have a guy in here acting like this entire episode had 15 minutes of fanservice. also they did explain what he was doing in the apartment. they literally tell him to collect data while he was there. also they do explain why ITEM goes after school they were pissed because SCHOOL ignored there "warning" they even mention killing the previous sniper. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| Not trying to bring a Molotov Cocktail to a fiery fright or anything, but I find it a bit ironic that the discussion thread for this episode is more chaotic than the actual episode itself, action wise. Maybe that's just me, though. -.- Although the last episode's animation quality was good, this time, it's kind of below average in many areas. Despite that, it was nice to see Mugino's ITEM group once again, as they got in a big tussle with opposing group, run by the 2nd rank level 5. No wonder she's frustrated. Accelerator's involvement always has me excited, wondering what's he's going to do next. Although he works with Tsuchimikado's group, his approach of sorting things out gives him a line-wolf vibe, but he gets the job done, so the preview for next week has me eager already. =) |
| I swear Index is probably the most "cringey" and stereotypical anime in existence. In a good way. These acronyms look like they arent even trying anymore. BLOCK, GROUP, SCHOOL. They would probably name their Dog D.O.G. or C.A.T. for memes. Having accelerator hijack this episode is great, but unexpected seeing how he gets his own anime soon. Afaik (only read a bit of the LN) this season of index might be the start for most bigger events and more characters becoming active, so I guess it fits having more non touma time. Piromysl said: Ok, now I realise why I hate Accelerator so damn much. He could easily obliterate Frog-doctor with is abilities and he perfectly knows that, but what he decided to do? Like true edgelord - to threaten him with a freaking handgun. I almost cut myself on that edge. he is definitely edgy as fuck, not sasuka or Tokyo Ghoul levels of edgy, but just enough to be considered edgy. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Man, I can't believe the meme that "it's ok to skip OT14 when reading the LN" was actually considered for anything other than a joke at some point during the planning for the anime. Considering the same for OT19 just came out of left field though, holy. Mugino sure got pissed over one little encounter with #2 yeah? :unamused: Too many things happened I dunno what to comment on honestly, yes just like OT14 and even NT4. Except kinda worse. Awaiting the 50/50 memes next week. So far things are going as expected. |
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| I try to enjoy the series, but everything feels so badly done. The animation, direction, passing and even the voice acting, everything is wrong. I am very disappointed, I know that Index's novels are not easy to adapt, but I did not expect something so bad after 8 years. |
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| One of the things that annoy me the most is the terribly unfitting or downright boring background music in these first couple episodes. Who in their right mind would chose these discrete tension/suspense tracks for a proper action scene? This really kills what little good pacing is left in this show. At least seasons 1 and 2 soundtrack had a bit of punch to back up the action. I really want to like this season, but they make it awfully hard to do so right now. (then again, every single Accelerator scene marked a clear highlight over the rest of this episode) |
| I'm not sure if this episode was just bad or if I hated it all alone. It was really broken and disjointed, and it introduced a bunch of characters with the assumption I know who they are and what they do. |
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Retolee said: I'm not sure if this episode was just bad or if I hated it all alone. It was really broken and disjointed, and it introduced a bunch of characters with the assumption I know who they are and what they do. Most characters have been shown before. Index assumes you're up to date with Railgun and Railgun assumes you're up to date with Index. You've watched the latest season of both shows, every character who had any screen time has been in those shows before. The most 'obscure' one is Unabara, who showed up very early into the series so he's easy to forget. The entire ITEM showed up in the Railgun anime and the rest of GROUP is very well known. SCHOOL is brand new but a character from them showed up in Railgun, hence Mugino mentioning how they killed their previous sniper. |
| I’m so hyped for this arc! They really don’t put much effort into the names of these groups lol |
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| I really hope the quality starts to pick up this is disappointing so far especially after a 7 year wait. |
AiHikari said: Well there's part of the problem, I didn't watch both seasons of Railgun because I found the first season to be boring and largely unrelated to the main series.Retolee said: I'm not sure if this episode was just bad or if I hated it all alone. It was really broken and disjointed, and it introduced a bunch of characters with the assumption I know who they are and what they do. Most characters have been shown before. Index assumes you're up to date with Railgun and Railgun assumes you're up to date with Index. You've watched the latest season of both shows, every character who had any screen time has been in those shows before. The most 'obscure' one is Unabara, who showed up very early into the series so he's easy to forget. The entire ITEM showed up in the Railgun anime and the rest of GROUP is very well known. SCHOOL is brand new but a character from them showed up in Railgun, hence Mugino mentioning how they killed their previous sniper. |
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| I actually enjoyed this episode, it's was far more enjoyable than the past 3 episodes. The animation quality was still pretty ugh though. That scene with Mugino talking at 13:29. Holy heck. She looked like a friggin robot. |
Tiau said: Retolee said: Well there's part of the problem, I didn't watch both seasons of Railgun because I found the first season to be boring and largely unrelated to the main series. Well its only technically a problem. You never need to watch Railgun for Index, this is actually ITEM's first real appearance in the entire franchise. It does indeed throw you into a bunch of characters you don't know, but the entire volume at least in the early part is supposed to be that kind of chaos since everyone is trying to do their plans(or prevent those plans), the anime didn't mess up on this part. What one should be worried about is if it messed up on the part where it actually starts explaining whats going on which should be in the next episode for most plotlines and the one after for the rest I can only hope it explains these things well enough down the line. It was confusing enough why Tsuchimikado shooting the old lady solved the problem with her family being in danger, he flew to France, flew back, and she was doing her work in the morning after she was shot like everything was fine. |
RetoleeOct 26, 2018 8:31 PM
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| Just remembered what I didn't like about Index/Railgun, that everyone is connected but no one has idea of what the others are doing or is happening. |
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| - Mugino's beam on Railgun was better. - just rate it 8... if the bluray version doesnt fix anything, then lets give it 7. |
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| We waited 7 years for this...... I could handle rushed project or low budgets one but BOTH!!? You didn't do the story justice nor you gave us eyes candy scenes to make up for that. I knew it was going to be a mess the moment they announced it gonna be 26 episode. Made worse by the fact they decided to do a freaking spin off anime that no one asked for "Accel". DUDE DO THE FUCKING MAIN STORY FIRST BEFORE YOU SPAM A SPIN OFF!! But then again, what did expect when the anime director think Index is all about bath scenes and fan-service? Like, F*ck you bro your fan-service scenes aren't even that good lol. So much wasted potential...... It's pitiful really |
hazarddex said: after reading the interview i saw not a single mention of him saying the series was for the baths. Actually that baths thing was from the Twitter post (Forgot if it was from Nishikiori or the official Toaru Project's account, though), he posting a tweet about "When you talk about Index series, you will thinking of having bath." or something like that. As for the interview.... "Yoshino calls Kamachi a sadist for some of the difficult-to-animate things he puts in his novels." And yet somehow the manga adaptation and the Chinese MMO game are did way better job at adapt those screens than the anime does lol, this is just an excuse to not gonna try to think how to handles these difficult-to-animate screens in the anime. (I can't believe I actually praise that Chinese MMO game despite it's garbage gacha system and being forced you to pay real moneys to get character like Kakine or Hamazura to be purchasable on gacha system). hazarddex said: so if anything Yoshino, Hiroyuki is the one whos cutting stuff out :| so why is Nishikiori getting all the hate? Nishikiori may not be the one who cutting contents, but he still need to take some blame on putting all those fillers like Index's bath screens in beginning of EP1 and being changed Mikoto's screen to bathing in EP3, due to the fact he claims Index is a anime series about bathing. Index and Oyafune's conversation filler screen in EP1 are the only good filler screen he has done in this season so far. |
MahiaErebeaNegiOct 27, 2018 1:57 AM
Maruseru1993 said: Still ridiculous so what?Comander-07 said: These acronyms look like they arent even trying anymore. BLOCK, GROUP, SCHOOL. That names are 8 years old so what? |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Another episode extremely intriguing and well told, although there is a contextual leap, which a little nervous me, it is worth it if I think about what I saw. Really ugly CG, the rest is of good quality: drawings and backgrounds. Great, as usual, Accelerator. |
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| J.C.Staff must fire this piece of garbage director first 2 seasons ruined now 3rd one is on the way. |
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Icebreaker93 said: J.C.Staff must fire this piece of garbage director first 2 seasons ruined now 3rd one is on the way. Kamachi likes nishikoiri’s directing so new testament adaption hes probably on board. 🤗 Source: https://m.facebook.com/notes/to-aru-universe/interview-to-kamachi-nishikiori-and-yoshino/2114504681955205/ |
| "Even villains have standards" -Accelerator-  |
| If this is what the NT awaits, i want to cry now already. There'll be so many characters and there's no way they will introduce them properly ... |
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| Amazing episode. Best episode so far allenjke said: If this is what the NT awaits, i want to cry now already. There'll be so many characters and there's no way they will introduce them properly ... Many of the new characters are actually not new. They appeared in Railgun S (2nd season). You probably did not watch it. And judging from the preview, it seems more characters from railgun will appear next episode also |
thepath said: Amazing episode. Best episode so far allenjke said: If this is what the NT awaits, i want to cry now already. There'll be so many characters and there's no way they will introduce them properly ... Many of the new characters are actually not new. They appeared in Railgun S (2nd season). You probably did not watch it. And judging from the preview, it seems more characters from railgun will appear next episode also I don't even know if you are trolling or what, i feel like most of the time i see your comments you are. FYI NT stands for New Testament and it's the continuation novel for Index. I don't know i should probably say like i didn't watch Index and Railgun to match your tempo, something like that. |
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allenjke said: thepath said: Amazing episode. Best episode so far Many of the new characters are actually not new. They appeared in Railgun S (2nd season). You probably did not watch it. And judging from the preview, it seems more characters from railgun will appear next episode also I don't even know if you are trolling or what, i feel like most of the time i see your comments you are. FYI NT stands for New Testament and it's the continuation novel for Index. I don't know i should probably say like i didn't watch Index and Railgun to match your tempo, something like that. Oh sorry I did not read you comment probably. I read it so fast and I thought you are complaining about new character in this particular episode |
| Battle Royale is finally here aaaand...I'm so confused lol. Even thought I read the novel a couple of years ago I still didn't get much of what was happening. Again, pace was terrible even for light novel readers and it's still more problematic for anime watchers only. By the way there was some questions regarding ITEM when watching the episode yesterday with my brother (novel reader as well, couldn't remember some details). Has Mugino and co. appeared before, not counting Railgun S2? |
-Koga-Oct 27, 2018 7:59 AM
♪♪ All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be ♪♪  |
DarkLunacy said: Just remembered what I didn't like about Index/Railgun, that everyone is connected but no one has idea of what the others are doing or is happening. Well it's a extremely heavy world building series. Particularly in the novel the world is very vivid, just like in real life there's no way you'll know what's happening everywhere at the same time, even if you know everyone or has some sort of connection with everyone else. -Koga- said: Battle Royale is finally here aaaand...I'm so confused lol. Even thought I read the novel a couple of years ago I still didn't get much of what was happening. Again, pace was terrible even for light novel readers and it's still more problematic for anime watchers only. By the way there was some questions regarding ITEM when watching the episode yesterday with my brother (novel reader as well, couldn't remember some details). Has Mugino and co. appeared before, not counting Railgun S2? Not in Index, no. |
AiHikariOct 27, 2018 8:13 AM
Tiau said: -Koga- said: Battle Royale is finally here aaaand...I'm so confused lol. Even thought I read the novel a couple of years ago I still didn't get much of what was happening. Again, pace was terrible even for light novel readers and it's still more problematic for anime watchers only. By the way there was some questions regarding ITEM when watching the episode yesterday with my brother (novel reader as well, couldn't remember some details). Has Mugino and co. appeared before, not counting Railgun S2? No, the only one in that side of things that's appeared before was just Hamazura, Mugino and ITEM's first appearance is in this novel. No wonder why he was kinda lost at their introduction. He hasn't watched Railgun, though he was familiar with Mugino and ITEM but that didn't help that much. |
♪♪ All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be ♪♪ |
Tiau said: allenjke said: If this is what the NT awaits, i want to cry now already. There'll be so many characters and there's no way they will introduce them properly ... There's not much to introduce when the novel itself didn't really do that at all either. NT4 will be a similar case, I really don't see the problem with what they did here. OT15 by design is supposed to be chaotic. I feel like the Baggage city arc and Agitate halation will be complete disaster, if Agitate halation even will be animated (i feel like it might be just skipped). Waiting a bit to see how at least British Royal arc will turn out. Named the arcs, don't think it's much of a spoiler. |
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