Gambling Apocalypse Kaiji
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| I'm a little disapointed at Kaiji, I thought that the final gamble would be more developed, but it looks boring (except the finger part) Just like naikou said: naikou said: I'm with the chairman... this bet seems like a boring waste of time. |
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PBz0r said: 100 million yen, huh? That's only about 500k in euros, iirc. It's a nice amount, but I remember the wagers in Akagi were much higher. Too bad the chairman's not betting all of his fortune like Washizu did. its about 10 million in dollars, or 7 million in euros... hell, im surprised kaiji isnt trying to just sell his fingers for that much--alotta people in his situation would jump at the chance anyway, I thought the episode was decent, or at least better than people are giving it credit for. sure, 2 episodes is kind of a long time to set up something so simple and somewhat silly, but as that no-name extra said during the episode, the set-up is the real gamble while the drawing is just a formality. granted, the suspense wasnt as high as usual since kaiji could have bs'ed his way out of the gamble if the set-up didnt go as planned, but it was still interesting to see how he managed to bend the whole situation to ensure his advantage. now the real suspense comes next week when we get to see if old peanut-nose has any tricks up his sleeves as well. After he got the ok to draw first, he sure seemed pretty confident with his wager. It looks like kaiji's ear might be having company in that bag of ice sometime soon... edit: nvm the 7 mil, it looks like your 500k estimate was about right, I was adding an extra 0 |
MosefTritonianGTMar 29, 2008 12:24 PM
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| Not as epic nor intense as the previous episodes, but it was still pretty good. Only 2 more episodes left T_T |
| I'm siding with Bigjig on this one. Slow, yes, but its the intricacies of the gamble. That said, I'm actually counting on the possibility that the Chairman in fact does pull the winning lot. Would make for an interesting 11th hour twist. |
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| Yeah, I'm sure the chairman knows that there is a possibility that Kaiji rigged it and he could easily check the other side of the box to see if there is a lot stuck there. Kaiji's fingers don't seem so safe anymore. |
| hmm... kaiji-kun is being....hmm I am undecided on my opinions at this moment... xD |
| There something fishy about it... |
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| I don't get it what does that geezer loses if Kaiji wins? 100 million yen? That's nothing for him... this gamble is quite a disappointment so far... I hope it improves. |
| This really looks like a waste of time. Only two episodes left... I honestly can't see how they'll make this interesting, let alone epic. |
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| The chairman comes up with really nice toys. |
shuwashuwa said: The chairman comes up with really nice toys. I love his toys too :D |
shuwashuwa said: The chairman comes up with really nice toys. Agree.. :D |
shuwashuwa said: The chairman comes up with really nice toys. Where does he get those wonderful toys? Also, I agree with previous posts. This whole lottery thing is not keeping me in suspsense the way, say, the card-game against Tonegawa did. |
| This final gamble doesn't entertain me. |
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| Eh..I don't see how this anime is going to end well if this lottery thing is the final challenge (for the lack of a better word). It seems too retarded to me. Also I'm not too happy with Kaiji deciding to cheat his way out. I sense that he's going to lose something soon. |
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| He's going to bet on his fucking fingers? NICE. |
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| Ok the execution of setting up the gamble and game were awesome. So even tho the game is kind of lame the rest was on point as usual. But winning on his first try is very suspicious even tho its not impossible I wouldnt trust it. I know its risky but if I was Kaiji I would wait until the tenth round before pulling it. And I wonder how he plans on "celebrating"? The dumping of the tissue box isnt a bad idea and could be seen as a natural reaction of winning $100 million but something feels off about it. |
| I was sure that Kaiji will lose this time, but betting on his fingers makes me reconsider it. I can't imagine hime losing his fingers! I really really hate the chairman but Kaiji is simply cheating and it seems like the chairman knows the cheat! |
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| from the condition of the chairman going first, it seems he already knows Kaiji is trying to cheat. Kaiji shouldve told the chairman he doesnt want 100million, instead he wants the chairman to wager his own fingers too. |
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| Well something will have to go awry for this gamble to become exciting... If Kaiji just wins on his first turn by pulling his trick, it would be such an underwhelming way to end the season :/ But as I said, it probably won't turn out as planned. |
| That's a stupid bet, Kaiji... You have everything to lose, and him, he'll practically nothing. For a mafia leader like him, 100 millions must be close to nothing. He'll not hurt him one bit. |
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| What's up with all these masochistic wagers the director's team put on, lol wtf. This whole "I wanna avenge my ear and friends by defeating the director with some cheap and tricky moves" is pretty dumb. Don't know how Kaiji will manage to get through the director's three conditions but, he'll sure be lucky as fuck if his cheating plan were to work out. I dont know I'm just too skeptic on this. |
| Can't be, this is true good to be true, I expect some surprises for Kaiji in the next episodes |
| Something is bound to go wrong lol |
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| You know, I actually loved this episode. I thought Kaiji's idea was kinda stupid for various reasons, but he executed it really flawlessly. I'm pretty sure something goes wrong, though, since a) we still have two episodes to go, b) it would go against the laws of nature for Kaiji to succeed too much. |
| Why the director keeps laughing? its proving he is one dimensional and boring Good episode Also its obvious Kaiji plan wont work. |
| Its odd for this show to do a finale one move. Wondering if this will extend to episode 26, because it looks easy enough to finishes in the first 10 minutes of the next episode. |
| His plan sounded really silly at first but I'm impressed that he had so many countermeasures to cover for the flaws. The only problem is that the Director could've seen through the trick and went for the bottom where Kaiji's rig is. Those fingers better stay on the owner this time... unlike that ear. |
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| Too risky, the old man doesn't seem that stupid to fall for his trick. |
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| It was so thrilling when Kaiji tried to set up everything for his gamble withput getting caught. Don't have a good feeling,Kaiji might screw up with this. |
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| Kaiji is so annoying |
| Kaiji forgot how sadist the old man is. It was obvious that he would do something ruthless. |
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| This arc is bringing the whole series down, it's just getting silly at this point. |
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| Lol this tissue box lottery blew completely out of proportion! |
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| Irrespective of the quality of the episode itself, I disagree vehemently with the decision to risk another bet like this against the director, cheating at that and just hoping based on luck and a prayer not to be found out. It seems so unnecessarily risky when he could have walked away: A) With his life B) + 20 million yen or 13 or 14 something after minusing the debt to the "house" C) His ear potentially being surgically reattached at the hospital What will become of the debt relief he promised to secure for Ishida's wife and mother on his behalf? What about the fact that if he lost everything, besides being maimed further, he would be back to working a minimum wage labor job or two for decades just to pay off his debt? The last arc and last few episodes are just making Kaiji come off as a psychologically addicted degenerate gambler at heart and confirm that he now he is actively a guilty party further digging himself, consciously so, into the hole of this "gambling apocalypse". His mental and verbal justifications of it are illegitimate. This isn't revenge. The best revenge would be to just leave with the money you've already won. Seek immediate medical treatment. Pay off your acquaintance's promised debts. Use the rest of the remaining money allocated for yourself in the wisest manner you can. Never pick up so much as a pair of dice or a lottery ticket again. Live a great fulfilling life, whatever that means to you, to spite them and their attempts to crush your spirit, and never step a foot back in that hell. Now he has sat back down in hell willingly of his own volition for an illusory "bigger score", "final payoff". It's the gambler's mirage and vice-addled brain. If you lose, can't stop now because sunk cost fallacy. If you win, then why can't you win again? So hence can't stop now because to turn down the chance of possibly winning again is akin to losing. Only losers quit when they lose and only losers quit when they win. The answer is always more gambling. So you'll play until you're destitute or dead chasing a phantom. It's sad to see Kaiji (the character) go that route. |
WatchTillTandavaMay 7, 2020 7:44 PM
| oof let's hope Kaiji doesn't pull a Higurashi here |
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| Its funny cause I only knew one fact about this series before coming in, and that fact is gonna play into this ending. |
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| If the old man has more money.. then this isn't really doing anything to him only pleasing him more tbh. He has gone senile so he could always just make that money back somehow. |
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| This moron is about to lose after he got enough money to save Ishida's wife and pay off his own debts ... Please , don't make it this obvious or I will be massively disappointed in the series. |
| I hate everyone equally |
| Betting his fingers... can't wait to see how this will go wrong |
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| im boutta get blue balls if they don't start going at it next ep |
| Another build up and preparation episode , I think president isn’t too impressed of such bet so far |
| 100m is crazy. so is 4 fingers. i just wanna seek kaiji finally catch a huge break, bros been through a lot. |
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| he could've gotten away with 20 million in his hands, but no he still wants revenge even though he already won against tonegawa and lived through hell himself. He's already lucky they didn't kill him after winning cause they're the yakuza after all. What a stupid gamble, just hungry for more money. He might as well die if he wants it that much. |
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