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Sep 18, 2018 11:14 PM
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Wimp3452 said:
JudoJD said:

So people giving it a 1 is also justified then. I'm not seeing a problem now that both sides understand each other :)

How is it justifiable?

How isn't it?
Just use your same reasoning without fanboy bias and it's Gucci
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Sep 19, 2018 12:29 AM
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JudoJD said:
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I agree with @legoAlex, some fans wouldn't be rating it a 10 if they haven't seen the the previous 4 PARTS of the anime that has been adapted to near perfection, so fans assuming it isnt so bad, FFS have you seen the first episode.

So people giving it a 1 is also justified then. I'm not seeing a problem now that both sides understand each other :)

nah it's only justified if:
-they read the manga and really didn't like it,i can get that
or
-watched the anime preview of the first episode and also didn't like it although if you went there to see it you're probably a fan already lol

those are the acceptable cases,doing it for any other reason is illogical but then again like i said i don't care about scores,this wouldn't have happened if mal simply put it in the upcoming anime category but oh well what do i know i can't say i'm a veteran here
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LegoAlex98 said:
JudoJD said:

So people giving it a 1 is also justified then. I'm not seeing a problem now that both sides understand each other :)

nah it's only justified if:
-they read the manga and really didn't like it,i can get that
or
-watched the anime preview of the first episode and also didn't like it although if you went there to see it you're probably a fan already lol

those are the acceptable cases,doing it for any other reason is illogical but then again like i said i don't care about scores,this wouldn't have happened if mal simply put it in the upcoming anime category but oh well what do i know i can't say i'm a veteran here

So never justified in this case in other words. I don't care either way, but this community is toxic and loves down rating shows that they hate or have no knowledge of to see their favorites higher on the list.
Sep 19, 2018 12:59 AM

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It's not justified to rate an anime when you haven't seen at least an episode. Knowing source material doesn't matter.
You all need to watch Nami.

Sep 19, 2018 1:43 AM
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LegoAlex98 said:
JudoJD said:

So people giving it a 1 is also justified then. I'm not seeing a problem now that both sides understand each other :)

nah it's only justified if:
-they read the manga and really didn't like it,i can get that
or
-watched the anime preview of the first episode and also didn't like it although if you went there to see it you're probably a fan already lol

those are the acceptable cases,doing it for any other reason is illogical but then again like i said i don't care about scores,this wouldn't have happened if mal simply put it in the upcoming anime category but oh well what do i know i can't say i'm a veteran here

I don't have to tell you how dumb and hypocritical that argument is do I lol
If you don't have to see an anime to rate it then 10s or 1s... No difference.. Both justified :)
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JudoJD said:
Baggedofbones said:
I agree with @legoAlex, some fans wouldn't be rating it a 10 if they haven't seen the the previous 4 PARTS of the anime that has been adapted to near perfection, so fans assuming it isnt so bad, FFS have you seen the first episode.

So people giving it a 1 is also justified then. I'm not seeing a problem now that both sides understand each other :)
whatever you see fit bro, either way this is not the final score
Sep 19, 2018 12:43 PM
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JudoJD said:
LegoAlex98 said:

nah it's only justified if:
-they read the manga and really didn't like it,i can get that
or
-watched the anime preview of the first episode and also didn't like it although if you went there to see it you're probably a fan already lol

those are the acceptable cases,doing it for any other reason is illogical but then again like i said i don't care about scores,this wouldn't have happened if mal simply put it in the upcoming anime category but oh well what do i know i can't say i'm a veteran here

I don't have to tell you how dumb and hypocritical that argument is do I lol
If you don't have to see an anime to rate it then 10s or 1s... No difference.. Both justified :)

i'm confused as to why you would think it's hypocritical,scores don't matter much to me so i give lots of 10s either way,but part 5 is my fav jojo part and given that the series has pretty much no differences from manga to anime it's fair to assume that if you already know how the story goes you're gonna like it and give it a high score,but if you literally have never seen or cared about the story then it's idiotic imo to give it a 1 just because oh man it's getting to close to other shows i like

if you are annoyed that it was boosted by fake accounts i already said that thats completely understandable but acting like this just because fans who read,watched and love the series already will give it a 10 without having seen it is a purely personal argument of yours
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Sep 19, 2018 12:55 PM
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abystoma2 said:
It's not justified to rate an anime when you haven't seen at least an episode. Knowing source material doesn't matter.


the first episode was seen by tons of people thanks to various leaks that come from the event,regardless i'm not sure how many times i have to say this but there is no difference between anime and manga in this case so rating it before it airs is completely acceptable in my opinion

i'm not defending the fact that people boosted the scores or anything like that,the problem is that mal decided to label this as airing so everyone took the chance and did it,look at one punch man 2 people already rated it 9s and 10s but nobody cares,the only reason this gained attention is because it's shown as the top airing show when it hasn't even started yet

if you dislike people that rate things without watching them then go tell that to all the others who did the same on the upcoming anime list,but you probably won't because they aren't a problem right now so in essence you wouldn't even be here saying this if the show wasn't wrongly marked uh uh
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Shoryuuken said:
LegoAlex98 said:

nah it's only justified if:
-they read the manga and really didn't like it,i can get that
or
-watched the anime preview of the first episode and also didn't like it although if you went there to see it you're probably a fan already lol

those are the acceptable cases,doing it for any other reason is illogical but then again like i said i don't care about scores,this wouldn't have happened if mal simply put it in the upcoming anime category but oh well what do i know i can't say i'm a veteran here

So never justified in this case in other words. I don't care either way, but this community is toxic and loves down rating shows that they hate or have no knowledge of to see their favorites higher on the list.

well yeah that is to be expected given the very nature of this site,like i said in the comments down below nobody would have cared if this show was shown as "upcoming" but since it challenged the top airing/top anime lists people flocked here and downvoted it to hell,hate on the site for fucking up the list not the people like me who are genuinely just excited to see this part get animated jeez
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LegoAlex98 said:

the first episode was seen by tons of people thanks to various leaks that come from the event,regardless i'm not sure how many times i have to say this but there is no difference between anime and manga in this case so rating it before it airs is completely acceptable in my opinion

Yep, I'm both defending rating it if you've actually seen the leak, but also condemning rating it without actually seeing it.

"there is no difference between anime and manga"
So is anime just screencaps of manga pages?
You all need to watch Nami.

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abystoma2 said:
LegoAlex98 said:

the first episode was seen by tons of people thanks to various leaks that come from the event,regardless i'm not sure how many times i have to say this but there is no difference between anime and manga in this case so rating it before it airs is completely acceptable in my opinion

Yep, I'm both defending rating it if you've actually seen the leak, but also condemning rating it without actually seeing it.

"there is no difference between anime and manga"
So is anime just screencaps of manga pages?

eh fair enough,this argument has been going on for too long though so i think it's best if i just end it here,have a good day/night sir
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shows not even out how can you even score???
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JudoJD said:
Baggedofbones said:
I agree with @legoAlex, some fans wouldn't be rating it a 10 if they haven't seen the the previous 4 PARTS of the anime that has been adapted to near perfection, so fans assuming it isnt so bad, FFS have you seen the first episode.

So people giving it a 1 is also justified then. I'm not seeing a problem now that both sides understand each other :)

if we consider this as airing like it says [even tho it isn't] it's fair yes,i mean honestly speaking i rated sword art online a 1 without having watched it because we all know it's trash anyway but i think i might change it now because of this situation,made me realise it's not really nice to do such a thing even for something like sao so thx for the lesson i guess
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There was a list in another thread.


You mean this one? :)

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Before you ask why the score is going down you should ask why it is/was that absurdly high after only 1 episode. The 1 ratings are just a reaction to the countless fake accounts made by Jojofanboys giving the series 10s. Both sides are equally retarded tho.


i voted it at 10 because i read the manga and loved it, which i guess is dumb to do because the anime could bomb who knows /; guess im a "retarded jojo fanboy"
Sep 21, 2018 10:50 AM
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Because beta cucks have garbage taste in anime, thats why its getting downvoted
Sep 22, 2018 2:36 AM

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Wimp3452 said:
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So people giving it a 1 is also justified then. I'm not seeing a problem now that both sides understand each other :)

How is it justifiable?


"Things I like can't be viewed as bad by other people! That's ridiculous! It's good because I said so!"

Like even as a fellow jojofag that reasoning is so bad lmao. In the end its some arbitrary number on MAL of all places lol.
Sep 22, 2018 2:56 AM

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It's because of, you guessed it:
Sep 22, 2018 1:19 PM

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mintiel said:
Wimp3452 said:

How is it justifiable?


"Things I like can't be viewed as bad by other people! That's ridiculous! It's good because I said so!"

Like even as a fellow jojofag that reasoning is so bad lmao. In the end its some arbitrary number on MAL of all places lol.

well being a "jofag" might be bad but nevertheless both sides are at fault and also i never said people HAVE to like jojo lol
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Oct 1, 2018 2:58 AM

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Simple

Any anime that get near FMA Brotherhood is bound to be down-voted by their hardcore fanbase who see FMAB as the number one anime ever
Oct 2, 2018 12:41 PM
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There are two different people.

1: People who love JoJo
2:People who Give 1 to each serie of JoJo.
Oct 2, 2018 12:42 PM
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Simple

Any anime that get near FMA Brotherhood is bound to be down-voted by their hardcore fanbase who see FMAB as the number one anime ever


Gintama was suposed to surpass FMAB lol

Yet it's impossible. FMAB will be 1st for a bit yet
Oct 3, 2018 6:38 AM

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Because people are retarded and score an anime before it even begins. There are already like 5 reviews and 3500 people who scored it and the anime hasn't even begun.
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Back at almost 9.00. Looks like someone had a lot of spare time to create some accounts. ;P
Oct 3, 2018 2:39 PM

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ArrRti said:
Back at almost 9.00. Looks like someone had a lot of spare time to create some accounts. ;P

More like the mods banned all the alts rating it 1.
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SixPistols said:
ArrRti said:
Back at almost 9.00. Looks like someone had a lot of spare time to create some accounts. ;P

More like the mods banned all the alts rating it 1.
That's good if they're doing that. Spamming 1s could affect the score more after it's completed(if there are hundreds or thousands of 1s given). Those who gave 10 might change their score when actually watching it, maybe they just feel hyped right now. For JoJo fans I wouldn't really expect "boosting" to happen much because we're going to watch Part 5 either way so it doesn't matter. For me even if the average is 7.00 I will still watch and decide for myself.

For myself I don't bother to rate because it doesn't really matter to me & I am not surprised if MAL would decide to wipe out all votes from before episode 1's air date(Oct 7th IIRC?)
Oct 3, 2018 5:17 PM

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Because usually the fans that are excited for it the most add it to their list first, and after that people who are less enthusiastic about it and don't really like it add the anime to their list next, and give it a not-so-high score.
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Scoring anything before it's even out is stupid whether it's a high score or a low score

Scoring anime before it's finished is stupid too but hey
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SixPistols said:
ArrRti said:
Back at almost 9.00. Looks like someone had a lot of spare time to create some accounts. ;P

More like the mods banned all the alts rating it 1.

And kept all all the alts rating it 10... God I've seen over 100
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VersusXV said:
SixPistols said:

More like the mods banned all the alts rating it 1.
That's good if they're doing that. Spamming 1s could affect the score more after it's completed(if there are hundreds or thousands of 1s given). Those who gave 10 might change their score when actually watching it, maybe they just feel hyped right now. For JoJo fans I wouldn't really expect "boosting" to happen much because we're going to watch Part 5 either way so it doesn't matter. For me even if the average is 7.00 I will still watch and decide for myself.

For myself I don't bother to rate because it doesn't really matter to me & I am not surprised if MAL would decide to wipe out all votes from before episode 1's air date(Oct 7th IIRC?)

I've seen over 100 boosting accounts lmao "I wouldn't expect boosting" lol
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AcelyK said:
VersusXV said:
That's good if they're doing that.

I've seen over 100 boosting accounts lmao "I wouldn't expect boosting" lol
I guess so. Seems pointless to me(other than perhaps to counteract massive amounts of 1's) because:

#1: Real JoJo fans will watch anyways. I won't suddenly refuse to watch Part 5 if I see the score is 7.00 or something. I've already decided that I want to see the full series animated, at least up to the end of Part 7. I would only drop if it severely disappointed me constantly through 10 episodes but I know enough about the story of Part 5 to know this isn't going to happen unless it's suddenly an extremely terrible adaptation when every other part has been adapted near perfectly. Now that I know people manipulate the score, I won't discount a show if it appears likely that boosting/sinking alt accounts manipulating the score were used.

#2: The MyAnimeList Admins could wipe out all scoring votes with the push of a button. They could just reset it to nothing, and perhaps they might since episode 1 hasn't aired yet outside of private showing AFAIK. They can also tell from IP addresses who is boosting and if they chose they could instantly ban the accounts. It's too time consuming to make over 100 boosting accounts all have a unique IP address so most likely they'd use the same address or a small number of IPs.

Spamming 1s could affect the score more after it's completed(if there are hundreds or thousands of 1s given). Those who gave 10 might change their score when actually watching it, maybe they just feel hyped right now. For JoJo fans I wouldn't really expect "boosting" to happen much because we're going to watch Part 5 either way so it doesn't matter. For me even if the average is 7.00 I will still watch and decide for myself. Everything coming up is must watch for those into the story of JoJo. I'll tag the following because I don't know if they classify as spoilers.

Part 7: Steel Ball Run being possibly the best part.

For myself I don't bother to rate before it airs because it doesn't really matter to me & I am not surprised if MAL would decide to wipe out all votes from before episode 1's air date(Oct 7th IIRC?)

jeam said:
Scoring anything before it's even out is stupid whether it's a high score or a low score

Scoring anime before it's finished is stupid too but hey
I might rate low if I drop a show. But if I feel that it's just not for me, not that it is bad in general I might just refrain from voting.
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