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Aug 27, 2018 8:12 PM
#151
--ALEX-- said: Should I put the Statistic that shows how America is THE ONLY first world country with this nonsense? I mean, obviously it’s not our precious guns or lack of restrictions...that is definitely not the problem. It’s gotta be something else! What we really need is MORE guns! I mean...if everyone had a gun at ALL times...well, problem solved! why do you only deal in extremes. this whole fucking thread has multiple people that aren't even leftist agreeing that maybe some reforms to things wouldn't be a bad idea. did you even read through the fucking thread? |
Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
Aug 27, 2018 8:13 PM
#152
DeoAduivante said: deg said: DeoAduivante said: I think that a good way to prevent shootings like these is to have any sort of system that can put a firearm restraining order on people who are reported and proven to be a danger to themselves and others and the restraining order will remain until the person is stable. I don't know if it's the best solution but it's the one I think is the most focused. This would've likely stopped parkland as this kid was reported so many times yet was able to get a gun. People who aren't pointing their guns at themselves and other people will be fine and people with minor mental illness that doesn't cause them to do such things will not be falsely debarred of their right to bear arms arent making thorough background checks first before they are allowed to buy guns better? i heard there are no background checks if you buy guns online in USA for example Don't know where you heard that but if you buy from an FFL (Federally licensed Dealer AKA 99% of online and offline guns) background checks are mandatory. Only private sales are not required to have background checks but those are quite rare as FFLs have very cheap prices online just googling what i typed earlier bring this |
Aug 27, 2018 8:22 PM
#153
DeoAduivante said: deg said: DeoAduivante said: deg said: DeoAduivante said: I think that a good way to prevent shootings like these is to have any sort of system that can put a firearm restraining order on people who are reported and proven to be a danger to themselves and others and the restraining order will remain until the person is stable. I don't know if it's the best solution but it's the one I think is the most focused. This would've likely stopped parkland as this kid was reported so many times yet was able to get a gun. People who aren't pointing their guns at themselves and other people will be fine and people with minor mental illness that doesn't cause them to do such things will not be falsely debarred of their right to bear arms arent making thorough background checks first before they are allowed to buy guns better? i heard there are no background checks if you buy guns online in USA for example Don't know where you heard that but if you buy from an FFL (Federally licensed Dealer AKA 99% of online and offline guns) background checks are mandatory. Only private sales are not required to have background checks but those are quite rare as FFLs have very cheap prices online just googling what i typed earlier bring this Well yeah, like I said you can but they are quite rare. Though I don't necessarily disagree with the concept of universal background checks so there's that. I don't really think that universal background checks would limit law abiding citizens guns so it's fine by me at least. well that is a start, the point is to lessen guns on the publics hand |
Aug 27, 2018 8:30 PM
#154
DeoAduivante said: --ALEX-- said: Should I put the Statistic that shows how America is THE ONLY first world country with this nonsense? I mean, obviously it’s not our precious guns or lack of restrictions...that is definitely not the problem. It’s gotta be something else! What we really need is MORE guns! I mean...if everyone had a gun at ALL times...well, problem solved! Maybe if you read the thread you'd see all the stats I posted disproving a large amount of the liberal rhetoric on guns. MORE GUNS! Every man, woman, child needs a gun! And goddamn you if you even dare to stop me from owning a gun...it’s my constitutional right! How I LOVE MY GUN...I’d fuck my gun if I could. |
Aug 27, 2018 8:35 PM
#155
Yomiyuki said: --ALEX-- said: Should I put the Statistic that shows how America is THE ONLY first world country with this nonsense? I mean, obviously it’s not our precious guns or lack of restrictions...that is definitely not the problem. It’s gotta be something else! What we really need is MORE guns! I mean...if everyone had a gun at ALL times...well, problem solved! why do you only deal in extremes. this whole fucking thread has multiple people that aren't even leftist agreeing that maybe some reforms to things wouldn't be a bad idea. did you even read through the fucking thread? I did, and it doesn’t matter. Because nothing will happen. I said nothing would happen after the Parkland Shooting....and for a second I thought I’d be wrong because some of the survivors were making a lot of noise and whatnot. In the end, I was still right....NOTHING happened. Nothing will ever happen....if anything MORE guns will in fact continue to flood America. I can realistically see an America where this is just a common thing (if it isn’t already) where you just EXPECT a mass shooting to happen every week or so. BTW...almost every sensible non-American can easily look at this situation and immediately identify the problem....only Americans are still trying to figure it out. |
Aug 27, 2018 8:39 PM
#156
DeoAduivante said: deg said: DeoAduivante said: deg said: DeoAduivante said: deg said: DeoAduivante said: I think that a good way to prevent shootings like these is to have any sort of system that can put a firearm restraining order on people who are reported and proven to be a danger to themselves and others and the restraining order will remain until the person is stable. I don't know if it's the best solution but it's the one I think is the most focused. This would've likely stopped parkland as this kid was reported so many times yet was able to get a gun. People who aren't pointing their guns at themselves and other people will be fine and people with minor mental illness that doesn't cause them to do such things will not be falsely debarred of their right to bear arms arent making thorough background checks first before they are allowed to buy guns better? i heard there are no background checks if you buy guns online in USA for example Don't know where you heard that but if you buy from an FFL (Federally licensed Dealer AKA 99% of online and offline guns) background checks are mandatory. Only private sales are not required to have background checks but those are quite rare as FFLs have very cheap prices online just googling what i typed earlier bring this Well yeah, like I said you can but they are quite rare. Though I don't necessarily disagree with the concept of universal background checks so there's that. I don't really think that universal background checks would limit law abiding citizens guns so it's fine by me at least. well that is a start, the point is to lessen guns on the publics hand Don't agree that more guns=bad but I do agree that less crazy people with guns is good. Great analysis man. Crazy people with guns = bad. We figured it out guys! Problem solved. Now we can all sleep easier. |
Aug 27, 2018 8:43 PM
#157
--ALEX-- said: Yomiyuki said: --ALEX-- said: Should I put the Statistic that shows how America is THE ONLY first world country with this nonsense? I mean, obviously it’s not our precious guns or lack of restrictions...that is definitely not the problem. It’s gotta be something else! What we really need is MORE guns! I mean...if everyone had a gun at ALL times...well, problem solved! why do you only deal in extremes. this whole fucking thread has multiple people that aren't even leftist agreeing that maybe some reforms to things wouldn't be a bad idea. did you even read through the fucking thread? I did, and it doesn’t matter. Because nothing will happen. I said nothing would happen after the Parkland Shooting....and for a second I thought I’d be wrong because some of the survivors were making a lot of noise and whatnot. In the end, I was still right....NOTHING happened. Nothing will ever happen....if anything MORE guns will in fact continue to flood America. I can realistically see an America where this is just a common thing (if it isn’t already) where you just EXPECT a mass shooting to happen every week or so. BTW...almost every sensible non-American can easily look at this situation and immediately identify the problem....only Americans are still trying to figure it out. --ALEX-- said: Yomiyuki said: --ALEX-- said: Should I put the Statistic that shows how America is THE ONLY first world country with this nonsense? I mean, obviously it’s not our precious guns or lack of restrictions...that is definitely not the problem. It’s gotta be something else! What we really need is MORE guns! I mean...if everyone had a gun at ALL times...well, problem solved! why do you only deal in extremes. this whole fucking thread has multiple people that aren't even leftist agreeing that maybe some reforms to things wouldn't be a bad idea. did you even read through the fucking thread? I did, and it doesn’t matter. Because nothing will happen. I said nothing would happen after the Parkland Shooting....and for a second I thought I’d be wrong because some of the survivors were making a lot of noise and whatnot. In the end, I was still right....NOTHING happened. Nothing will ever happen....if anything MORE guns will in fact continue to flood America. I can realistically see an America where this is just a common thing (if it isn’t already) where you just EXPECT a mass shooting to happen every week or so. BTW...almost every sensible non-American can easily look at this situation and immediately identify the problem....only Americans are still trying to figure it out. you're well on your way to escaping your neo-lib tendencies then. nothing gets accomplished in politics unless it benefits people that couldn't care less about fixing up this country. this has been made more obvious these last 15 years. |
Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
Aug 27, 2018 8:45 PM
#158
Hurr durr need kamen sense gun laws rrrrr |
Aug 27, 2018 9:00 PM
#159
DeoAduivante said: Magnif-Steiner said: Hurr durr need kamen sense gun laws rrrrr Depends on what "common sense" means. To some people, common sense is stupid shit like banning """assault rifles""". that's what I meant. Usually it's dumbasses that keep on regurgitating how America needs common sense gun laws when they already lack simply from common sense themselves. |
Aug 27, 2018 9:01 PM
#160
deg said: SpamuraiSensei said: deg said: SpamuraiSensei said: So how would have stricter gun laws helped? He would be following all the laws up until he decided to kill someone. as they say there are exceptions to every rule so gun control laws might not be effective on this particular incident but that does not mean gun control will not be overall effective in the bigger picture which is to lessen overall gun violence incidence Hmm.. I'm sure it will help in some way, but I can't say how much. The way I'm looking at it right now.. A lot of these mass shooters followed the laws up until they got crazy. They've owned guns for years before going on a rampage. In other instances, the guns used were stolen from family members. In normal cases, felons are already looking at a 10 year or so prison sentence and they're easy to buy off the street regardless. In states with super strict gunlaws, you can go to the neighboring state and buy one. People want stricter gun laws, and I'm for that, but nobody really gives a good argument on what these laws should be. its up to the politicians to make those laws since those are their expertise anyway its just so obvious to think that less guns means less gun violence Sadly, mass shootings in America isn't something that's recent. It was pretty prominent in the 1920's up till today. Off the top of my head.. the oldest school shooting I can remember was in the 60s where the dude chilled up in a tower and picked people off. So up until then they've had all these years to figure it out, and nothing has really been improved. Interestingly enough, a lot of the guns used in crimes (not so much mass shootings) are illegally obtained. They get these guns from home robberies. Anyway, a super strict Nationwide restriction law wouldn't be possible imo. Owning guns, shooting guns, hunting with guns.. It's part of America's identity... It's culture. It's as American as apple pie xD |
Aug 27, 2018 9:10 PM
#161
Incredibly sad event. Hope everyone who ended up going to the hospital makes a full recovery. |
Aug 27, 2018 9:14 PM
#162
DeoAduivante said: --ALEX-- said: DeoAduivante said: deg said: DeoAduivante said: deg said: DeoAduivante said: deg said: DeoAduivante said: I think that a good way to prevent shootings like these is to have any sort of system that can put a firearm restraining order on people who are reported and proven to be a danger to themselves and others and the restraining order will remain until the person is stable. I don't know if it's the best solution but it's the one I think is the most focused. This would've likely stopped parkland as this kid was reported so many times yet was able to get a gun. People who aren't pointing their guns at themselves and other people will be fine and people with minor mental illness that doesn't cause them to do such things will not be falsely debarred of their right to bear arms arent making thorough background checks first before they are allowed to buy guns better? i heard there are no background checks if you buy guns online in USA for example Don't know where you heard that but if you buy from an FFL (Federally licensed Dealer AKA 99% of online and offline guns) background checks are mandatory. Only private sales are not required to have background checks but those are quite rare as FFLs have very cheap prices online just googling what i typed earlier bring this Well yeah, like I said you can but they are quite rare. Though I don't necessarily disagree with the concept of universal background checks so there's that. I don't really think that universal background checks would limit law abiding citizens guns so it's fine by me at least. well that is a start, the point is to lessen guns on the publics hand Don't agree that more guns=bad but I do agree that less crazy people with guns is good. Great analysis man. Crazy people with guns = bad. We figured it out guys! Problem solved. Now we can all sleep easier. Imagine being this much of a condescending prick. An intellectual midget who has never once actually defended any of his opinions with actual arguments and statistics and removes shit from its context in order to bolster his ego about how right he is. And if you want an analysis you can quote the essay's worth of statistics and data tables I posted in my discussion with deg? But no, you'll use comments I made after the discussion was already over and we were making our closing statements on our short basic opinions of these issues instead. I’ve had PLENTY of arguments...I’ve made plenty of threads about this shit... I don’t feel inclined to rehash them all over like a broken record just so the opposition can continue their same old tired points in contrast. Wanna know what the real sad part is? It honestly doesn’t matter who is righ and wrong....this WILL continue to occur because none of our politicians (the ONLY people with the power) will do anything. We can get into a back and forth argument why that is so...but again, it’s just rehashing the same old arguments back and forth. Don’t worry...I’ll make sure to be on the lookout for YOU in the threads when the next mass shooting occurs, which probably won’t be too long from now. And I’m sure you and others will continue to discuss this endlessly while again....nothing happens. Yes, I’m very cynical about this issue...that’s what happens when you simply no longer care. |
Aug 27, 2018 9:18 PM
#163
--ALEX-- said: DeoAduivante said: --ALEX-- said: DeoAduivante said: deg said: DeoAduivante said: deg said: DeoAduivante said: deg said: DeoAduivante said: I think that a good way to prevent shootings like these is to have any sort of system that can put a firearm restraining order on people who are reported and proven to be a danger to themselves and others and the restraining order will remain until the person is stable. I don't know if it's the best solution but it's the one I think is the most focused. This would've likely stopped parkland as this kid was reported so many times yet was able to get a gun. People who aren't pointing their guns at themselves and other people will be fine and people with minor mental illness that doesn't cause them to do such things will not be falsely debarred of their right to bear arms arent making thorough background checks first before they are allowed to buy guns better? i heard there are no background checks if you buy guns online in USA for example Don't know where you heard that but if you buy from an FFL (Federally licensed Dealer AKA 99% of online and offline guns) background checks are mandatory. Only private sales are not required to have background checks but those are quite rare as FFLs have very cheap prices online just googling what i typed earlier bring this Well yeah, like I said you can but they are quite rare. Though I don't necessarily disagree with the concept of universal background checks so there's that. I don't really think that universal background checks would limit law abiding citizens guns so it's fine by me at least. well that is a start, the point is to lessen guns on the publics hand Don't agree that more guns=bad but I do agree that less crazy people with guns is good. Great analysis man. Crazy people with guns = bad. We figured it out guys! Problem solved. Now we can all sleep easier. Imagine being this much of a condescending prick. An intellectual midget who has never once actually defended any of his opinions with actual arguments and statistics and removes shit from its context in order to bolster his ego about how right he is. And if you want an analysis you can quote the essay's worth of statistics and data tables I posted in my discussion with deg? But no, you'll use comments I made after the discussion was already over and we were making our closing statements on our short basic opinions of these issues instead. I’ve had PLENTY of arguments...I’ve made plenty of threads about this shit... I don’t feel inclined to rehash them all over like a broken record just so the opposition can continue their same old tired points in contrast. Wanna know what the real sad part is? It honestly doesn’t matter who is righ and wrong....this WILL continue to occur because none of our politicians (the ONLY people with the power) will do anything. We can get into a back and forth argument why that is so...but again, it’s just rehashing the same old arguments back and forth. Don’t worry...I’ll make sure to be on the lookout for YOU in the threads when the next mass shooting occurs, which probably won’t be too long from now. And I’m sure you and others will continue to discuss this endlessly while again....nothing happens. Yes, I’m very cynical about this issue...that’s what happens when you simply no longer care. This is why I don't go on these kinds of forums here on MAL that often. When people stop caring they are no longer worth arguing with on these issues. Nothing to gain. |
Aug 27, 2018 9:24 PM
#164
I’ll care when our politicians care...let me know when that happens. |
Aug 27, 2018 9:28 PM
#165
Well now you're just showing childish behavior… I'll wait EDIT: eh actually I probably won't bother |
Aug 27, 2018 9:31 PM
#166
Trump being president is hurting gun sales so don't worry. Obama was the greatest gun salesman but because there is a R in house no one worries about guns being taken so no one feels the need to buy guns. Most people who buy guns are just lifestylists with expensive toys. |
Aug 27, 2018 9:35 PM
#167
-Placeholder- said: White is not a colour. It's a race. i.e. European peoples. Jews are not White. And here's your alt account again. You actually think I care about your petty Nazi BS. It's about time for you to join the other Nazis on my ignore-list. |
Aug 27, 2018 9:45 PM
#168
zodd0 said: -Placeholder- said: White is not a colour. It's a race. i.e. European peoples. Jews are not White. And here's your alt account again. You actually think I care about your petty Nazi BS. It's about time for you to join the other Nazis on my ignore-list. why haven't i blocked you by now? every post you make is insufferable. "i'm going to block you because i don't like you." even people having calm conversations with you, you just get triggered at the notion of someone infringing on your world view. why even keep posting here then? you're worse than the staunch socialists we have here, atleast they talk to other people. |
Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
Aug 27, 2018 10:07 PM
#169
zodd0 said: And here's your alt account again. You actually think I care about your petty Nazi BS. It's about time for you to join the other Nazis on my ignore-list. I hope not to hear from you again. |
Aug 28, 2018 12:32 AM
#170
5layer said: Apparently this is the shooter's reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/ravenchamps/comments?sort=controversial&t=year well thats been debunked by that user himself - https://np.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/9av2g3/im_apparently_the_madden_shooter_whats_up/ T_D and other similar subs identified him as the shooter based on his name being raven(MD football team) and the shooter being from MD https://np.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/9av2g3/im_apparently_the_madden_shooter_whats_up/e4yclqd/ |
degAug 28, 2018 12:35 AM
Aug 28, 2018 1:37 AM
#171
Hoppy said: This wasn't a mass shooting, just a shooting. A mass shooting requires more deaths.This proves we need better mental health services. People are absolutely insane these days, I mean killing people over a loss. If there were better services and mandatory requirements for those who are violently mentally ill to seek help, we would have fewer mass shootings. |
"my life at this state could be transposed into a pretty massive biography" - Cneq, "the guy who was literally using BTC in 2012 to make deals in the first main instance of a digital itemized economy forming naturally in all human history (also the precursor of NFTs) and who had 20k+ total trades.", 23 years old MAL's most prolific antivaxxer, Noboru. |
Aug 28, 2018 2:37 AM
#172
deg said: So the shooter is still alive! This proves it was a false flag attack!5layer said: well thats been debunked by that user himself - https://np.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/9av2g3/im_apparently_the_madden_shooter_whats_up/Apparently this is the shooter's reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/ravenchamps/comments?sort=controversial&t=year |
Aug 29, 2018 10:52 AM
#173
KeylonLongfist said: A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of gaming. All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Pope and Tsar, Metternich and Guizot, French Radicals and German police-spies.So, will this start another witch hunt against video games? Where is the party in opposition that has not been decried as gamers by its opponents in power? Where is the opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of gaming, against the more advanced opposition parties, as well as against its reactionary adversaries? Two things result from this fact: I. Gaming is already acknowledged by all European powers to be itself a power. II. It is high time that Gamers should openly, in the face of the whole world, publish their views, their aims, their tendencies, and meet this nursery tale of the Spectre of Gaming with a manifesto of the party itself. To this end, Gamers of various nationalities have assembled in London and sketched the following manifesto, to be published in the English, French, German, Italian, Flemish and Danish languages. |
Aug 30, 2018 7:59 PM
#174
deg said: Neane93 said: >The shooter was a gamer who was competing in the tournament and lost, one of the competitors told the L.A. Times https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1033795491153276928 are feminists right? are we males the cause of much violence (wars)? lol heck you rarely hear female mass shooters I read that women prefer to kill with poison (whatever you want to interpret there xD) over other weapons and men kill with guns and knifes, because they are, you know, phallic symbols. Most women, who kill, don't go on a rampage, they are more likely to take revenge on specific people ... (not so) fun- funfact and all. But for sure, women aren't more peaceful, they act just different. Oh boi, that guy really was a sore loser. For real, I can't imagine living in a country where you have fo fear that your neighbour or someone you know from your daily life might be in a bad state of mind and will shoot you. There is no need for ordinary people to own a gun, if you aren't a police officer, soldier or ranger or something similar. The market and industries for guns are so big and influential in the US, they don't feel the need to change their laws and mentality. The pro-gun mentality is based on fear and so they won't change their way of thinking. I even can understand them. If everyone around me owned a gun, I also would feel powerless and intimidated. |
Aug 31, 2018 3:43 PM
#175
Swagernator said: When will they finally ban those violent computer games, my God. I agree. Metal Gear Solid series must get banned first. |
Aug 31, 2018 11:42 PM
#176
ArabianLuffy said: Swagernator said: When will they finally ban those violent computer games, my God. I agree. Metal Gear Solid series must get banned first. Dont worry, MGS series was already banned, by Konami. |
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